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3 hours ago, Outsider said:

I don't mean this as a criticism but in your day to day existence have you experienced something or had an encounter that has given you cause for hope? I need some tangible reason to believe that it can be turned around...this forum gives me a feeling of unity but out on the street, evidence really is thin on the ground.  

Maybe deep down the proles know best. If you swim against the tide you will use up all your energy and drown....swim with the tide and you may be okay...you could end up washed ashore...who knows? 

 


l attended the huge protests in London last year.
l have never worn (or tried nor touched) a mask...and smile at anyone and everyone if our eyes meet.
l'm not fearful and radiate no fear where ever l go.
A lot of my close friends see through this BS.
l'll never get the vaxx. Regardless of the consequences.
My Mother is refusing the vaxxine.
My local town has the majority wearing masks especially in shops, but on the grassy common areas, people are there playing if it's dry and sunny.
l've visited Brighton several times (essential - cough cough) and saw a big difference to my town. Hardly any masks anywhere.
Everywhere must be different.
l'm sure there are other 'good areas' in the UK.
l don't let the MSM spook me... (never had TV)
l go about my day unworried for myself, though obviously l'm concerned for mankind as a whole, but l don't dwell on it.
Who knows where this will end up for me personally of for mankind as a whole ?
Being fearful, angry or depressed about this situation will not change it in any way shape or form.
l'm not afraid to 'move on' as l am 100% sure l 'was' before l was here and l 'will be' after l have left here.....as long as l don't let the Cabal disconnect me from the Source.
BC :O)
 

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6 hours ago, Jesse007 said:

I’m not sure if it true but my neighbour told me the origins or democracy and voting came originally from raising your swords and doing a sword count if true it was probably originally a way to avoid bloodshed.

Trial by Jury

We said at the beginning that a society governs through its law. The ultimate control is through remedy or punishment. If the people are meant to be in authority through the proper democratic constitution, then what mechanisms do they have to make or remove their country's laws that they, themselves agree to abide by? Are the people automatically bound to be subject to any rules that its government creates? Clearly not - as we've already established. So what is this mechanism that allows the people to create this higher jurisdiction of law?

The ultimate mechanism through which the people can write their own laws is through the Common Law Trial by Jury system. Because, in a proper, full, un-abridged Trial by Jury system (that has now been unlawfully removed from the people), the jury have the right and duty to annul bad government statutes. This is the people being sovereign. See p.67 of Democracy Defined: The Manefesto.

So Common Law is actually the consolidation of the judgements of juries (the people), not, as you will generally be told by people in the legal profession, judgements by judges! Importantly, the people's law (Common Law), is based on principle not outcome. You cannot legislate for motive. (p. 37 of Democracy Defined: The Manefesto - guilt depends on intent or motive). Rules and regulation (legislation) only judges the outcome; but the higher Common Law judges motive and principle - according to human conscience. When ordinary people judge their peers, they do so through their conscience: it is therefore a human judgement by people of the community on the fairness of enforcing potential punishment upon the accused. This is, essentially, the manifestation of Natural Law through human consciousness. 

Furthermore, it is people of the community judging people of the community. If the accused is found guilty, that guilty verdict will have been delivered by fellow community members - his peers or social equals. That further establishes the Natural Law principle that we are all equal before the [natural] law.

Further still, the jury (in a full trial by jury system) has the right and duty to judge on the nature of the punishment. The government will simply carry out or 'execute' the punishment according to the will of the people. That is the role of the executive branch of government.

Trial by Judge is not an impartial tribunal. The judge is an employee of the state and is a member of the judiciary. There is clearly a conflict of interest for the judge, when, on the one hand being required to decide on the justice of a case whilst, simultaneously, running the risk of defying the wishes of his pay-master, the government, by refusing to maintain and enforce its rules.

The Judge is wrongly named the 'judge'. Under proper constitutional common law Trial by Jury, the judge is merely called the 'Convener'. It is the members of the Jury (the Jurors) that are the Judges - as they are judging on all aspects in a court case - without interference.

Specifically, and most importantly, the members of the jury (through full Trial by Jury) have the power to annul bad government statutes (legislation) by applying the not-guilty verdict, if, according to their conscience they decide that it would be unjust for the accused to receive punishment.

Briefly, without going into too much detail on the proper democratic trial by jury, it is this full un-abridged Trial by Jury system (that has now been illegally removed from us) through which the people have the control over the law and the justice system within their country. This is what causes the people to have sovereignty in a truly democratic society.

Democracy has nothing to do with voting in elections. It is not through the election system that the ordinary people have influence over the functioning of their state. It is specifically through the full system of Trial by Jury (now un-lawfully taken from the people) that the people have control over the fairness and justice of laws of their country. That is the key characteristic of a democratic state. The people retaining their sovereignty, at all times - not just at elections, by having direct control over its law when functioning as jurors. Again, the existence of electoral voting in a country does not define that country as democratic - contrary to what most people (even in government) believe.

In a proper system of Trial by Jury, a guilty verdict must be passed unanimously otherwise the accused is automatically considered not-guilty. The defendant is only guilty if each and every member of the jury considers the accused guilty. Under Common Law, it is of greater importance that a good wo/man is not punished wrongly.

Lastly, the jurors make this decision privately and without having to provide explanation. Why? Because that decision is reached through their own conscience and sense of fairness.

WJK - May 2018

https://www.britishconstitutiongroup.com/the-constitution/trial-by-jury

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3 hours ago, Basket Case said:

We are all watching and following..

 

so are many people who don't post here

 

there is a bigger picture here and although some people might use the forum for entertainment or as a support group it is also a means by which information is shared and it is in that capacity that some people will be seeking to sabotage it

 

I remember one poster two forums ago who posted a picture of a symbol and invited the forum to discuss what it could be. Various ideas were put forth and then that same poster appeared on a forum for freemasons (which came up in searches related to davids forum which is how i came across it) in which he mocked posters on the forum for their ideas because the symbol was a symbol for lasers

 

So there is an agenda by certain people to try and belittle and diminish what is being said in the truth movement and i know that its a broad church and that people want to discuss lots of different things and its not my place to say what should and shouldn't be discussed but at the same time i am conscious of the fact that some of the better information that actually has the ability to bring peoples perceptions into better alignment with objective reality may be deliberately buried by bad actors posting heaps of garbage

 

if that is tolerated by the staff then we are going to end up with a whole load of garbage that interested readers will have to wade through leading to them inevitably becoming disillusioned and leaving

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50 minutes ago, skitzorat said:

The World Economic Forum has released a 1min promotional video for their nifty new "smart" mask

 

This smart face mask tells you when to wash it

https://www.weforum.org/videos/21559-mask-tech-uplink

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"Helping the planet to breathe a little easier". "Yeah, and you fuckers won't be able to"....you will slowly choke to death, being unable to naturally exhale and your lungs will develop all kinds of nasty shit.

 

The slow suffocation of a society. Literally and metaphorically.

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https://www.timesofisrael.com/government-launches-green-pass-for-vaccinated-warns-of-jail-for-fraudsters/

 

Jews are control freaks. Nearly all of the security contracts in London for CCTV and similar are given to israeli companies. Israel trains the US and European police in to becoming militarised. A lot of the police state policies are copied from israel. It is very concerning when we hear Boris say that he gets his lockdown policies (orders) from israel. 

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2 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

https://www.timesofisrael.com/government-launches-green-pass-for-vaccinated-warns-of-jail-for-fraudsters/

 

Jews are control freaks. All of the security contracts for CCTV are given to israeli companies. Israel trains the US and European police in to becoming militarised. A lot of the police state policies are copied from israel. It is very concerning when we hear Boris say that he gets his lockdown policies (orders) from israel. 

 

they are also building a lot of the AI tech that is going to manage the smart grid

 

if you look at the people at the top of all the big tech companies even in the US they are invariably jewish and a lot of israels tech start-ups are really just extensions of their intelligence services because many of the people creating those tech companies are ex Unit 8200 people

 

they are organised and playing to win. We have none of that unity of purpose in the UK. In fact all we have is sabbateans sabotaging us from within and their toadies who assist them for 30 pieces of silver

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8 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

they are also building a lot of the AI tech that is going to manage the smart grid

 

if you look at the people at the top of all the big tech companies even in the US they are invariably jewish and a lot of israels tech start-ups are really just extensions of their intelligence services because many of the people creating those tech companies are ex Unit 8200 people

 

Israel dominates the domestic security industry and they seem to want nothing more than to turn the US and UK in to a police state. 

 

As israel is basically a military state, they force everyone through the military and they live in a continued state of emergency. They seem to want to export this state of emergency to the UK and USA and elsewhere. Almost to make them share their problem, no doubt they also encourage immigration in to the west, to destabilise the west in order to justify the large government security contracts. They even go as far as creating fake terror attacks to get government security contracts. 

 

They encouraged islamic terror in the west either through real or imagined and through their media, remember the decade of islam terror emergency in the media? I do. They then went on to turn the UK police in a continuous state of terror emergency, only to eventually claim the real threat is white people not muslims. So they turned this terror emergency state security establishment justified by foreign terror on to the white people in the country, who they call nationalists or supremacists. 

 

Bit off topic but it all comes back to the UK and USA getting their policies from israel and isreal going full police state on the covid passports is very very concerning to me and should be to everyone in the west. Jews practically control the UK and USA intelligence establishment now. 

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It seems grotesquely ironic that Israel of all places is the leader in Vaccine Passports and imposing such restrictions on their own people. You would think (Jews, WW2, Nazis etc) that they of all people would recognise the humanitarian horror of doing this to people...forced injections of potentially lethal substances, or else social ostracisation.

 

But then maybe History wasn't really as we've been told by the MSM.

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10 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

Israel dominates the domestic security industry and they seem to want nothing more than to turn the US and UK in to a police state. 

 

as police, soldiers, doctors, civil servants, teachers, journalists etc etc are replaced by AI and automation and the facial recognition and social credit scores go public it will all come down to who controls the AI at the centre of it all that will manage all the data feeding back through the 5G cloud from the 'internet of things', that will control humanity and it looks very much like it will be israel that controls that or rather the sabbatean cult that is in control of israel

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2 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

It seems grotesquely ironic that Israel of all places is the leader in Vaccine Passports and imposing such restrictions on their own people. You would think (Jews, WW2, Nazis etc) that they of all people would recognise the humanitarian horror of doing this to people...forced injections of potentially lethal substances, or else social ostracisation.

 

But then maybe History wasn't really as we've been told by the MSM.

 

Is it jews doing that or is it sabbatean-jews?

 

sabbateanism was not a small heresy within judaism. I think at one point, around the time of sabbatai zevi, it sucked in something like half of the jewish community.

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13 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

if that is tolerated by the staff then we are going to end up with a whole load of garbage that interested readers will have to wade through leading to them inevitably becoming disillusioned and leaving


l'm very conscious of the ratio of guests to members.
The Mega Thread has taken on a life of it's own as you're well aware.
All the chunky tidbits are in the 'other' threads, such as your Disease X thread etc..
Bitching and bantering is now seen a little different on this thread IMO.
Even long off topic conversations about 'politics' up to a point...LOL 😂 
Anyone coming for hard facts will find them, again IMO.
Nothing but nothing will stop shills and trolls from signing up.
We need to give them a little rope sometimes...  😉
 

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8 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

Nothing but nothing will stop shills and trolls from signing up.
We need to give them a little rope sometimes...  😉

 

that poster has been given enough rope to re-rig a man of war

 

its looking very much like its an old poster that we all know now by many different names

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24 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

some people might use the forum for entertainment or as a support group it is also a means by which information is shared and it is in that capacity that some people will be seeking to sabotage it

I came seeking as much info as I can find, have made a friend or two along the way which is lovely. Have come across quite a few threads and posts that lead to all sorts of rabbit holes and paths...but just like in the real world, there will always be beings or entities that have been put in place to mislead you, and you must research and choose your paths very carefully.  

 

8 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

Nothing but nothing will stop shills and trolls from signing up.
We need to give them a little rope sometimes...

To connect what I was saying to Macnamara--If we stopped the "trolls" then it would be basically censorship and I thought most everyone who is "good" here are all for Freedom of speech...whether we agree or not? 

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1 minute ago, JayneDough said:

To connect what I was saying to Macnamara--If we stopped the "trolls" then it would be basically censorship and I thought most everyone who is "good" here are all for Freedom of speech...whether we agree or not? 


Up to a point..
When that freedom becomes destructive for the 'community' and the 'information gatherers', then that freedom is still allowed....but just not in this forum  😂

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1 minute ago, JayneDough said:

To connect what I was saying to Macnamara--If we stopped the "trolls" then it would be basically censorship and I thought most everyone who is "good" here are all for Freedom of speech...whether we agree or not? 

 

i'm not talking about a difference of opinion

 

I'm talking about people setting out with malevolent intent to try and degrade the forum and there are known people who are repeat offenders who have been banned for all sorts of misdemeanors who keep coming back and pulling the same shit

 

also we can't compete with the resources of state actors who have entire computer room troll farms, full of operatives that they can put to the task of 'cognitive infiltration'

 

How Covert Agents Infiltrate the Internet to Manipulate, Deceive, and Destroy Reputations

One of the many pressing stories that remains to be told from the Snowden archive is how western intelligence agencies are attempting to manipulate and control online discourse with extreme tactics of deception and reputation-destruction.

Glenn Greenwald

February 24 2014, 11:25 p.m.
 

One of the many pressing stories that remains to be told from the Snowden archive is how western intelligence agencies are attempting to manipulate and control online discourse with extreme tactics of deception and reputation-destruction. It’s time to tell a chunk of that story, complete with the relevant documents.

Over the last several weeks, I worked with NBC News to publish a series of articles about “dirty trick” tactics used by GCHQ’s previously secret unit, JTRIG (Joint Threat Research Intelligence Group). These were based on four classified GCHQ documents presented to the NSA and the other three partners in the English-speaking “Five Eyes” alliance. Today, we at the Intercept are publishing another new JTRIG document, in full, entitled “The Art of Deception: Training for Online Covert Operations.”

By publishing these stories one by one, our NBC reporting highlighted some of the key, discrete revelations: the monitoring of YouTube and Blogger, the targeting of Anonymous with the very same DDoS attacks they accuse “hacktivists” of using, the use of “honey traps” (luring people into compromising situations using sex) and destructive viruses. But, here, I want to focus and elaborate on the overarching point revealed by all of these documents: namely, that these agencies are attempting to control, infiltrate, manipulate, and warp online discourse, and in doing so, are compromising the integrity of the internet itself.

Among the core self-identified purposes of JTRIG are two tactics: (1) to inject all sorts of false material onto the internet in order to destroy the reputation of its targets; and (2) to use social sciences and other techniques to manipulate online discourse and activism to generate outcomes it considers desirable.

https://theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

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