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3 hours ago, Covidiot said:

 

And will we still be "hoping" for a mass awakening as we are dragged off for forced vaxx or imprisonment? Will you just "hope" the gov won't stab your kids and inject them with poison?

 

Hope defeats nothing. Action is what is needed and without it we are fucked IMHO.

 

The problem with such negative thinking (or resigned belief) is that a) it closes down the mind and b) closes off looking for potential solutions and c) feeds into fear & despair and d) drags down those around us.

 

None of those attitudes / effects make any positive difference at all. History proves that unequivocally. 

 

And yet, that's the option you're steadfast in promoting? Especially when that's exactly what the enemy wants of us? 

 

But why? Because you've given up? 🤔 

 

Hope is a) a critical tool to overcome despair and b) it keeps the mind open to possible solutions and c) doesn't bring down everyone around us and d) can actually keep people alive when otherwise they'd have given up. 

 

So, that's the option I've chosen to promote. 💚

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48 minutes ago, Jode said:

But I cant help but wonder if it's the other way around. What if you don't take the vac... it would surely serve the PTB long term better if those who wouldn't take the vaccine died. And those that had it then trusted in future outbreak/vaccine cycles. 

I'd be inclined to think that those who were aware of what's happening enough to refuse to be vaxed would be the preferred choice for survival. If this is some kind of eugenic selection process, those with a strong survival instinct will prevail 

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7 hours ago, Covidiot said:

This is nver ending and yet the plebs still refuse to see it!

I started to see the NWO at play before I was 18, before 9/11 because I remember distinctly thinking back then it was an 'inside' job by TPTB to start WWIII - and I've often spent most of the 20 years in between going through phases of really hoping it really was just a complete farcical conspiracy; they don't really want to nefariously vaccinate the shit out of us, murder us and bring down the police state under a one world govt. Then Covid happened. For a little while as NZ went under house arrest I gave it somewhat of a belief, for about 2 weeks, then I found out about Event 201 and it was all over. Now, almost a year later with enormous amounts of disreal information at our fingertips, with a vast majority of 'liberal' countries under an authoritarian rule reading from the same exact script and the entire population of the planet being forced into being injected with an experimental concoction- how anyone can still refuse to see it and say so with a straight face...I just don't have the words🤦‍♂️

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3 minutes ago, TFH said:

 

The problem with such negative thinking (or resigned belief) is that a) it closes down the mind and b) closes off looking for potential solutions and c) feeds into fear & despair and d) drags down those around us.

 

None of those attitudes / effects make any positive difference at all. History proves that unequivocally. 

 

And yet, that's the option you're steadfast in promoting? Especially when that's exactly what the enemy wants of us? 

 

But why? Because you've given up? 🤔 

 

Hope is a) a critical tool to overcome despair and b) it keeps the mind open to possible solutions and c) doesn't bring down everyone around us and d) can actually keep people alive when otherwise they'd have given up. 

 

So, that's the option I've chosen to promote. 💚

 

Like the way you think. Too many seem to have lost the fight in them. If Piers Corbyn can get out there and stick to them, then we all can!

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3 hours ago, Covidiot said:

 

If humanity always rises up then how do we explain China? Is that not the template for the NWO? Why have the Chinese people not risen up and overthrown their overlords?

 

Maybe it's because everyone in China is sitting at home "hoping" their fellow countrymen will "wake up" and rise up?

 

Fact is we are approaching the endgame and IMHO only action will have a chance at stopping this.

 

China has risen up numerous times throughout history, and we can expect it to rise up again once it reaches breaking point in the future. The signs are there that the Chinese people are reaching that point as we speak. 

 

Back in the day when the Nazis had all but won the war - right before they lost it - what do you think would have happened to the world had everyone just said "fuck it there's no hope left", and then told everyone else to sink further into despair because hope is a useless concept? What would Churchill have done differently had he lost hope and promoted despair, instead? 

 

One key difference is that we'd all be speaking German in 2021. 💚

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3 hours ago, Outsider said:

Agree, hope is just deluded wishful thinking. A dead desire. And you're right it's a pretty useless weapon against what we are facing. 

 

I think you're conflating hope with positive thinking, but those are two separate states. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, northern star said:

 

It's exactly what they want - our resignation, fear and despair. Low energy frequencies they can feed off. And judging by news today in the media, Britain has the most severe lockdown in the whole world, so bear in mind there's something particularly appetising to them about this island's low frequencies. It definitely feels like its being targetted by particularly evil energies. But you are right - the media here is complicit in keeping people uninformed, but there are huge manoeuvres from good forces going on behind the scenes, more powerful than the entities and "news" being presented to us to keep us deflated. As Morpheus said, there is a higher power at work which they are trying to keep us from. If people connected with it, it would be game over for the cabal, and they know it.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9290029/Britains-coronavirus-lockdown-one-toughest-WORLD-study-claims.html

 

^ This! 👍👍

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8 minutes ago, TFH said:

 

China has risen up numerous times throughout history, and we can expect it to rise up again once it reaches breaking point in the future. The signs are there that the Chinese people are reaching that point as we speak. 

 

Back in the day when the Nazis had all but won the war - right before they lost it - what do you think would have happened to the world had everyone just said "fuck it there's no hope left", and then told everyone else to sink further into despair because hope is a useless concept? What would Churchill have done differently had he lost hope and promoted despair, instead? 

 

One key difference is that we'd all be speaking German in 2021. 💚

 

Not defending Adolf, but he warned that most of this crap would happen. This idea that the allies are saints just because the National Socialists were bad is killing us. Look up the anti-vax political cartoons in Der Sturmer back then.

 

Edit: And no, we wouldn't be speaking German.

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3 hours ago, Morpheus said:

Have you ever considered that you are in the place you're supposed to be at any given minute and that if you were supposed to be anywhere else you'd be there?

 

 

I have read that post about 15 times. What the fuck does it mean. 🤔😀

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5 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Not defending Adolf, but he warned that most of this crap would happen. This idea that the allies are saints just because the National Socialists were bad is killing us. Look up the anti-vax political cartoons in Der Sturmer back then.

 

Edit: And no, we wouldn't be speaking German.

 

I've not suggested the allies were saints. 

 

Ps, it's not a literal statement when people say "we'd all be speaking German".. it's just a commonly used euphemism to highlight that we'd have lost the war had we given up at the last minute.

 

That's the overarching point that some of us are making here to counter the arguments of despair. 👍👍

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Hope is a double edged sword. Yes it can help us stay positive but it can also blind us to what's actually happening. Hoping for mass rebellion or awakening, hoping for the PTB to relent and return things to normal, hoping for some external state or force to intervene to end this dystopia are all unlikely events and hoping for one of them to happen may cause inaction in people, as well as leave oneself open to increased disappointment when it doesn't happen. Surely acting to give oneself options and choices and directing hope toward their success is a more realistic way?

 

Hoping for positive success in things we can have direct control over seems to me to be more sustainable than blinding ourselves with hope directed at something we have no control over. 

 

Hope for the best by all means but plan for the worst

 

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10 minutes ago, TFH said:

 

I think you're conflating hope with positive thinking, but those are two separate states. 

 

 

I understand the concept but to think positively about something means you inately believe that you can change a negative into a positive....I just feel we have passed too far down this particular road as a society to turn it around. It's nearly a year and I have tried to be positive to try and engage with people using all sorts of methods but it just hasn't worked. The propaganda machine has been too intense, too powerful to counteract. 

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5 minutes ago, TFH said:

 

I've not suggested the allies were saints. 

 

Ps, it's not a literal statement when people say "we'd all be speaking German".. it's just a commonly used euphemism to highlight that we'd have lost the war had we given up at the last minute.

 

That's the overarching point that some of us are making here to counter the arguments of despair. 👍👍

 

Oh my bad. 👍

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3 minutes ago, Outsider said:

I understand the concept but to think positively about something means you inately believe that you can change a negative into a positive....I just feel we have passed too far down this particular road as a society to turn it around. It's nearly a year and I have tried to be positive to try and engage with people using all sorts of methods but it just hasn't worked. The propaganda machine has been too intense, too powerful to counteract. 

 

Ok. You're talking about positive thinking. I get that. 

 

I'm talking about hope. 

 

Putting this another way.. what happens to a military unit that's lost all morale vs what happens to a military unit when its morale is high? 

 

It's standard military practice to demoralise the enemy to make them less able to fight back. 

 

There's nothing inherently wrong in being a person who's lost their own hope (something I do frequently), but what good does it do to reduce everyone's morale in our own team? 

 

And that's the question.. what good do we know for a fact comes from hope vs what negative impact do we know for a fact comes from despair? 🤔 

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7 minutes ago, AnarchicBreeze said:

Hope is a double edged sword. Yes it can help us stay positive but it can also blind us to what's actually happening. Hoping for mass rebellion or awakening, hoping for the PTB to relent and return things to normal, hoping for some external state or force to intervene to end this dystopia are all unlikely events and hoping for one of them to happen may cause inaction in people, as well as leave oneself open to increased disappointment when it doesn't happen. Surely acting to give oneself options and choices and directing hope toward their success is a more realistic way?

 

Hoping for positive success in things we can have direct control over seems to me to be more sustainable than blinding ourselves with hope directed at something we have no control over. 

 

Hope for the best by all means but plan for the worst

 

 

I'd much rather hope for the best while planning for the worst than not bothering to plan for the worst because I'd given up all hope! 👍👍

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Latest post from John Ward at The Slog, and he's pulling no punches...

 

https://therealslog.com/2021/02/23/last-exit-from-covid/

 

LAST EXIT FROM COVID? IN YOUR DREAMS...

It's under 24 hours since the (allegedly) most powerful man in the UK announced the "roadmap" out of Lockdown restrictions. Earlier last week, Boris Johnson had said that this time, there would be no backsliding, no panicking, and no volte-faces: this was the Big One. The Freedom Riders were going the full distance....."we're on a one-way road to freedom" he insisted.

 

But yesterday he added, ".....of course, nothing can be guaranteed". So it's a one way road with regular flyovers allowing U-turns, then.

 

Almost immediately, the Telegraph got hold of paperwork showing that the usual bought CMO maniacs hadn't wanted any lockdown easing at all before the Autumn. And Wales' deputy chief medical officer said he would be "very surprised" if all COVID rules were to be eased by 21 June - the date Boris Johnson had said was sacrosanct....up to but not including the point at which it was more of a sacrificial lamb than a sacred promise.

 

Nothing is sacred with Boris, and that's a humungous part of the problem. He seems not to care that joint Cabinet Responsibility (a central pillar of British constitutional precedent) has been replaced by impertinent anarchy between Party renegades, Whitehall, corrupt medical advisers and a devious Health Secretary.

 

Enter Hancock, bang on cue, within the last three hours to assert (as usual) that if the plan goes mammories skywards, it'll be our fault.

 

"Everybody has to play their part to meet the dates for England's lockdown to be eased," he told the BBC, "it is currently too early to say how long social distancing will be in place, but the aim is for such things to become a matter of personal responsibility". Even at this level of disloyalty, the oily rag could not resist affirming that "restrictions will only be lifted by 21st June if strict conditions have been met".

 

So to sum up, the roadmap is fast-forward to liberty, but fraught with risk, and there may well be reversals if at any time it looks like you stupid citizens have been hugging, kissing and destroying all our carefully laid plans to produce release from a dangerous situation; so ignore what the fat Turkish blond says and be very afraid, shut up, stay at home and wash your mouths out, oiks.

 

And that's before we've had any leaking to The Times and Piers Morgan from Pharmafia interests about deadly surging new deadly mutant more infectious deadly strains infecting our schoolchildren in deadly danger of deadly death.

 

The United Kingdom Prime Minister is not First Among Equals: he is a spineless Build Back Better spider in the tightly-spun web of surveillance, bankers and collectivist ideologues selling a New Normal that is utterly unnatural.

 

There is no roadmap out of Lockdown beyond its abandonment as a strategy.

There is no way forward for the West beyond the rejection of pointless, halfbaked vaccines that will never defeat a mutating virus of relatively benign nature.

 

We will never regain anything remotely resembling Rousseau's Social Contract until corrupt incompetence in the Establishment has been purged, the Rule of Law restored, and catechismic ideology has been replaced by the compassionate reality of pragmatic Utilitarianism.

 

Our politicians are not "following science". They are merely implicated in a Sovyet-Nazi totalitarian process designed to rewrite science in the pursuit of obscene wealth and global power.

 

Even if the four-lane Stage1 sub-section2 highway to a Liberty Reset is eventually completed, we shall still be living in a world of "Papieren bitte"....one where politicised cops ask politely whether you are a self-supporting individual or a meek lamb for the slaughter.

 


Sad to relate, there are times when resistance becomes a task so thankless, we are all prone to wondering if any of it is worth it. The reference made earlier to 'corrupt incompetence' is a case in point.

It is clear that, as Health Secretary, Hancock has presided over crony Covid vaccine contracts. The telling judicial summation involved gives the game away: 'Almost 500 companies given high priority due to political connections secured contracts to supply PPE with 10 times the success rate of nearly 15,000 companies that were not given enhanced attention'. Even more depressing is Hancock's weaselly response to Sky this morning: "The court case did not find there was a problem with any of the contracts. It found that whereas we are supposed to publish the details of the contracts within 30 days of them being signed on average we published them at the heat of the crisis on average 47 days after they were signed."

 

So that's alright, then.

 

Thirty years ago, the UK ad agency WCRS came up with this strapline for their client Orange:

 

The future's bright, the future's Orange

 

It was always going to be a hostage to fortune. Today, it needs rewriting:

 

The future's dark, the future's 'orrible

 

 

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7 minutes ago, FrankVitali said:

 

 

I have read that post about 15 times. What the fuck does it mean. 🤔😀

 

The reality we each, individually, perceive/recall is ordered via a structure we call 'time'.

We consider that structure in units and the small unit we live by is called 'seconds'.

Not ....... firsts.

It is not named 'firsts' .... it is 'named 'seconds'?

 

What is something which is 'secondhand' .... a clock has a secondhand but you also have secondhand items!

 

We are somewhere between 8 to 11 seconds downstream of actual reality!

And in that 'actual' reality ....... one 'second' is a life time.

 

Or some shit like that :)

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15 minutes ago, Outsider said:

I understand the concept but to think positively about something means you inately believe that you can change a negative into a positive....I just feel we have passed too far down this particular road as a society to turn it around. It's nearly a year and I have tried to be positive to try and engage with people using all sorts of methods but it just hasn't worked. The propaganda machine has been too intense, too powerful to counteract. 

 

This is what i think as well. I do believe we have past the point of no return. There is still an opportunity to fight but we will never get back the world we had Pre COVID. Even after a successful rebellion the world will be a very different place and unfortunately few of us will be alive to see it.

 

Vaxx passports are the final nail in the coffin. The last "hope" is that TPTB have over played their hand and the sheep reject the vaxx passes. I don't think they will tho' i think they will be willingly accepted by the majority and the minority who hesitate will capitulate due to peer pressure and want of normal life.

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Only one option in my book. Forget playing by the system. Lots of people in the 1960s took that course although at that time there were plenty of jobs and less cause to drop out. Essentially governments can now offer us very little. We have no welfare state or labour rights. Everything we do is monitered. Banks are robbing our savings and enable government control. We have no freedom of expression or association. So, disengage. You really can you know. Don't play in a one sided rat-race. Learn to be as dependent as possible. You can even self educate. If you make a list of what is actually offered in return for citizenship it's no longer worth engaging.

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6 hours ago, Covidiot said:

 

I think it was a success. Bojo promised nothing but another 4 months of lockdown with a multitude of caveats allowing the suspension of your freedoms at any time for a "worrying variant" and the plebs are over the moon. The masses are placated yet again.

 

Now we have Sturgeon in Scotland even after having vaxxed the vulnerable putting Scotland back into a regional model ie TIERS. This is nver ending and yet the plebs still refuse to see it!

 

Everyone is psyched-up for Midsummer, when our malevolent rulers have promised us some form of freedom. That’s almost four months away and people are actually pleased, making plans, while this crippling regime of social-control just keeps going on and on…week after mind-numbing week.

 

Hurrah Freedom! In fifteen weeks…. Woo-hoo!

 

"It’s freedom Jim, but not as we know it." It’s just less tortuous than lockdown. You still have to obey government regulations. Really, you don’t; they are only recommendations, which you can choose to ignore. Read the small print, because they know these rules are unlawful and unenforceable.

 

 

 

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