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4 minutes ago, Sexpistol50 said:

What do you think they will do to those who refuse the vaccine and what percentage do you think will refuse in U.K ?

 

I think it will become mandatory by the back door via employers and I believe uptake will be north of 90%. Those who refuse will be unable to access food etc and will either succum to pressure and be vaxxed or end up interned/imprisoned in an isolation camp until they relent or die.

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Just now, Covidiot said:

 

I think it will become mandatory by the back door via employers and I believe uptake will be north of 90%. Those who refuse will be unable to access food etc and will either succum to pressure and be vaxxed or end up interned/imprisoned in an isolation camp until they relent or die.

 

Worst case they succeed with their private sector mandates. It will be technically or practically difficult to force employers to force employees. Forcing customers is a bit different and easier but that can affect profits. 

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1 minute ago, SimonTV said:

 

They can't do anything, which is why they have to resort to convincing private organisations to try and force it. It is difficult to tell what percentage of the population will not take the vaccine. Could be around 40-60% probably won't take the vaccine voluntarily. I said before, they will force young people and old people to take it as they are easily forced. The adults, many non white question it and many whites as well. If companies start forcing it and not allowing work from home then we could start see some resistance from companies but they have created a perfect recipe for vaccine uptake, by no mistake. 

 

As soon as employers/shops demant vaccine then it's game over. I would say at that point 99% of those against the vaxx will take it. There is no fight in UK plc as evidenced so far during this scamdemic. I believe only a tiny amount will resist to the end and the numbers will be so small as to be easily managed by the police/gov.

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3 minutes ago, Covidiot said:

 

This is exactly the reaction I get from even fellow sceptical colleagues. People are beaten and fed up. The brainwashing and fear porn has gave the entire nation PTSD and most I think would do anything whether harmful or not just for this to end. Which of course it won't. I have lost all hope of a happy outcome to this. I'm prepparing for unemployment, life on the fringes of society until my inevitable imprisonment/jab/death. It's OVER WE LOST! The masses will not awaken until they are gasping for their final dying breaths.

 

It's not quite as bad as all that. Even those who have bought the official story are absolutely fed up with lockdowns and face masks, once they start to realise that all of this is planned to never end then we'll hopefully start seeing some proper pushback.

Said it before this whole Covid hoax while it has been effective for the elite is so blatant and so badly planned it's a clear sign IMO that they're getting desperate and are behind schedule in their New World Order masterplan. Used to be the elite made changes gradually in a subtle manner, there's nothing subtle or gradual about what's happened the last 12 months.

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2 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

 

Worst case they succeed with their private sector mandates. It will be technically or practically difficult to force employers to force employees. Forcing customers is a bit different and easier but that can affect profits. 

 

I wish i shared your optimism but from my own workplace experience a large minority of employee's are demanding company to enforce vaxx and when that is the case it will make it easier for employers to justify. Besides no employer will "force" you. You will have a "choice"... take the vaxx or get another job... best case for you, you win an unfair dismissal case after 12 months of fighting and get 1 year salary compo. But you will still be unemployed.

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6 hours ago, Liberty said:

you can’t change where you were born but there is a big world out there with different cultures and beliefs. The rest is your choosing.

 

What if the people in the place you move to don't want you there because they are concerned that you may price them out of housing or lower wages by under cutting them or maybe they don't want you there because there isn't much space geographically and they are concerned about growing class sizes, longer waiting times at their hospitals and cultural cohesion

 

What impact do YOUR actions have? Its all very well seeing the world as your personal playground but the people in it might not see it that way. For them it might be more than a playground. For them it might be their home

 

6 hours ago, Liberty said:

Who says if I’m french I need to engage with wine making or if I’m British I need to like fish and chips?

 

No one but culture is fragile. If you have the knowledge of wine making and you leave then your area has now lost that knowledge. Equally if you take that knowledge somewhere else you may displace the existing knowledge in that area

 

6 hours ago, Liberty said:

From day dot we are bombarded with people telling us who we are, what to think, what our identity is.  Your identity is yours to find out for yourself not for others to do that for you. 

 

Sure you and everyone else can behave like children in a big playground where you have no sense of responsibility but what i'm telling you is that the things that everyone loves and that enrich our lives are preserved by dedicated people and that some people have to nurture those things.

 

If you and everyone else behave like irresponsible children in a giant global playground there WILL be repercussions. The cultures will be destroyed and replaced with a corporate pseudo-mono-culture and people will lose their connection with place and with the stories and music affixed to those places. You will lose your memory and the things that give you a deeper connection to place

 

You will indeed end up infantilised, deskilled and living under the control of the mummy and daddy corporate technocracy because that global playground where no one has any connection to place is THEIRS. That's what they are building so if that is the vision of the future you want then go right ahead but just know that all the beautiful and fragile things that we enjoy about different countries end up thrown under the wheels of that process and life becomes cheapened. You have been warned

 

 

6 hours ago, Liberty said:

Brexiters need to accept their part in this. You had a choice of big business or not and consented to big business having more control.

 

Bollocks!

 

The EU WAS BIG BUSINESS! The EU commission would sit behind closed doors with big business and draw up the legislation. The EU was an entirely fascist  or corporate-socialist organisation

 

That same globalist corporate-socialist network is the same one behind this covid-hysteria and the 'great reset' and achieving brexit has failed to free us from it because the current government is not really a 'conservative' one it is a GLOBALIST one and staying in the EU would have created the same outcome so brexiteers are not to blame for the lunacy of the davos elite

 

Stop blaming british workers and start putting the blame where it really belongs

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9 minutes ago, Covidiot said:

 

This is exactly the reaction I get from even fellow sceptical colleagues. People are beaten and fed up. The brainwashing and fear porn has gave the entire nation PTSD and most I think would do anything whether harmful or not just for this to end. Which of course it won't. I have lost all hope of a happy outcome to this. I'm prepparing for unemployment, life on the fringes of society until my inevitable imprisonment/jab/death. It's OVER WE LOST! The masses will not awaken until they are gasping for their final dying breaths.

 

Yep...............They'll only get a needle in me with half a dozen holding me down.

And you're right, we did lose. The braindead masses that some on this forum think are innocent saw to that.

My only consolation is that they're going down with me eventually.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Lamp Of Truth said:

 

It's not quite as bad as all that. Even those who have bought the official story are absolutely fed up with lockdowns and face masks, once they start to realise that all of this is planned to never end then we'll hopefully start seeing some proper pushback.

Said it before this whole Covid hoax while it has been effective for the elite is so blatant and so badly planned it's a clear sign IMO that they're getting desperate and are behind schedule in their New World Order masterplan. Used to be the elite made changes gradually in a subtle manner, there's nothing subtle or gradual about what's happened the last 12 months.

 

There is an air of desperation i agree centred on vaxx uptake. Why so desperate for max vaxx uptake? Get everyone jabbed before the mass deaths start? If the vaxx is genocide/death juice then I think the plan will succeed. I reckon they can easily achieve 90% uptake. If it kills off all those people over the next 5 years or so then they have nothing to fear once the jabs are in people then its just a waiting game.

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12 minutes ago, Covidiot said:

It's OVER WE LOST!

 

I must politely disagree.

 

That view is based in a material form ....... a 3 dimensional world and not in truth (<<<< for want of a better word).

 

What maybe 'lost' is the 'beings' who 'may' have become .... a 'test' is nothing more than that but can 'feel' as very much of sadness, for one, for those who do not 'pass'.

 

This is not the correct thread for this to be fair ....... the realm we are in is NOT what most consider!

 

<posting off topic .... my bad>

 

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6 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

I don't deny that, but this is my home too, not just Charles'. They don't care about the people that care about this flag, so they can hide behind what they like. I'm not going to deracinate myself for them.

 

Edward heath signed britain into the EU and according to david icke he was a pedophile

 

According to some sources heath took children from the haute de la garenne childrens school on jersey and took them aboard his yacht the 'morning cloud' where he would rape them

 

That's the guy who signed us into the globalist elites EU project and if 'treason' is the attempted destruction or conspiracy to destroy a nations sovereignty and its people then those pushing the 'great reset' are guilty of treason and those pushing 'replacement migration' are guilty of treason just as edward heath was guilty of treason for signing away british sovereignty

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3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

What if the people in the place you move to don't want you there because they are concerned that you may price them out of housing or lower wages by under cutting them or maybe they don't want you there because there isn't much space geographically and they are concerned about growing class sizes, longer waiting times at their hospitals and cultural cohesion

 

What impact do YOUR actions have? Its all very well seeing the world as your personal playground but the people in it might not see it that way. For them it might be more than a playground. For them it might be their home

IWe are not responsible for other people thoughts and predudices. Many have come here and fitted in just fine. 

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14 minutes ago, Covidiot said:

I have lost all hope of a happy outcome to this. I'm prepparing for unemployment, life on the fringes of society until my inevitable imprisonment/jab/death. It's OVER WE LOST! The masses will not awaken until they are gasping for their final dying breaths.

 

 

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9 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

No one but culture is fragile. If you have the knowledge of wine making and you leave then your area has now lost that knowledge. Equally if you take that knowledge somewhere else you may displace the existing knowledge in that area

And that is all personal choice. Which outweighs culture or what is expected of you. 

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1 minute ago, Liberty said:

IWe are not responsible for other people thoughts and predudices. Many have come here and fitted in just fine. 

 

i'm not talking about a few people who have come here in good faith and who want to build something positive here

 

I'm talking about a programme of MASS migration that has seen the population grow by over ten million in a decade

 

I'm talking about what kind of impacts that scale of change causes

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6 minutes ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

Yep...............They'll only get a needle in me with half a dozen holding me down.

And you're right, we did lose. The braindead masses that some on this forum think are innocent saw to that.

My only consolation is that they're going down with me eventually.

 

 

 

I'm with you 100%. My anger has turned to smugness every time the morons suffer another setback and are all surprised! I do take solace in the fact these morons are in for a very, very rude awakening.

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24 minutes ago, Sexpistol50 said:

What do you think they will do to those who refuse the vaccine and what percentage do you think will refuse in U.K ?

I am optimistic that enough will say no (over 30%) and this will sink it right there and then.

If they try to restrict employment, they will get sued immediately and LOSE. Depending on the industry, employers will want access to the best talent and they will very likely not want the legal hassle.

 

Same with access to stores and other services. Companies will also not want to alienate such a large portion of their customer base.

 

Have faith people.

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SHALL I GET VACCINATED 🤔🤔
Here are 12 important questions and answers before considering getting vaccinated:
●"If I get vaccinated can I stop wearing a mask(s)?"
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●"If I get vaccinated will the restaurants, bars, schools, fitness clubs, hair salons, etc. reopen and will people be able to get back to work like normal?
Government: "NO"
●"If I get vaccinated will I be resistant to Covid?"
Government: "Maybe. We don't know exactly, but probably not."
●"If I get vaccinated, at least I won't be contagious to others - right?"
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●"If I get vaccinated, how long will the vaccine last?"
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25 minutes ago, Covidiot said:

 

This is exactly the reaction I get from even fellow sceptical colleagues. People are beaten and fed up. The brainwashing and fear porn has gave the entire nation PTSD and most I think would do anything whether harmful or not just for this to end. Which of course it won't. I have lost all hope of a happy outcome to this. I'm prepparing for unemployment, life on the fringes of society until my inevitable imprisonment/jab/death. It's OVER WE LOST! The masses will not awaken until they are gasping for their final dying breaths.

 

 

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13 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

Sure you and everyone else can behave like children in a big playground where you have no sense of responsibility but what i'm telling you is that the things that everyone loves and that enrich our lives are preserved by dedicated people and that some people have to nurture those things.

 

If you and everyone else behave like irresponsible children in a giant global playground there WILL be repercussions. The cultures will be destroyed and replaced with a corporate pseudo-mono-culture and people will lose their connection with place and with the stories and music affixed to those places. You will lose your memory and the things that give you a deeper connection to place

 

You will indeed end up infantilised, deskilled and living under the control of the mummy and daddy corporate technocracy because that global playground where no one has any connection to place is THEIRS. That's what they are building so if that is the vision of the future you want then go right ahead but just know that all the beautiful and fragile things that we enjoy about different countries end up thrown under the wheels of that process and life becomes cheapened. You have been warned

Sorry. What?!!  
 

I have enjoyed reading your posts in the past and shall continue to. But this is just tripe!!

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1 minute ago, Liberty said:

And that is all personal choice. Which outweighs culture or what is expected of you. 

 

you think like the corporations

 

you fail to realise that some actions have 'externalities' which is to say knock-on effects

 

corporations don't care about these as they only care about the bottom line. A corporation will happily pay a 10 million pound fine for dumping toxic waste in a river rather than pay 15 million pounds to dispose of the waste responsibly because it makes good business sense from the perspective of the profit margin

 

But the knock on effect is that they destroy the life in that river and impact the health of the people who live along it

 

I'm trying to explain the wider implications of things. To think egocentrically is a childs view of the world

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Just now, truth_seeker90 said:

I am optimistic that enough will say no (over 30%) and this will sink it right there and then.

If they try to restrict employment, they will get sued immediately and LOSE. Depending on the industry, employers will want access to the best talent and they will very likely not want the legal hassle.

 

Same with access to stores and other services. Companies will also not want to alienate such a large portion of their customer base.

 

Have faith people.

 

Sorry but no. We already have "safety marshalls" turning non maskers away from supermarkets. It is not a big step to turning away non vaxxed. Those non vaxxed will be the minority and business won't give a monkeys. The vaxx passports ARE coming and if you aint vaxxed you ain't accessing any modern day essentials.

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