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7 hours ago, Liberty said:

Yes. What do you class as British?  Being born here?  Have a certain look?  Or certain values and beliefs?  

 

'Britain' in a legal sense is a country so if you are a citizen of that country then you are british

 

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what would you define as British?

 

So lets say someone wants better work 'opportunities' and they move to britain to pursue those better work opportunities. They then seek and gain citizenship. They are now legally 'british'. But do they feel an affinity with the land of britain and its history and culture (which has regional diversity)?

 

What if they don't? What if they feel an affinity with a culture from another part of the world and don't really care about the history of this country? What then is their loyalty to? Is their loyalty based around what is economically advantageous to them ie what opportunities they can gain in which case if they are offered better opportunities somewhere else will they then just upsticks and move there? ie a fairweather citizen

 

Are they loyal to the culture from which they came? If that is the case and they are a small number of people then that isn't going to impact too heavily on the host population but if they are not a small number and flood in in their millions then that will inevitably water down the host culture because now they will have their own 'community' and will be demanding that THEIR culture and its architecture, clothing, belief system, values, food, music, movies and so on should be given a more predominant position in society

 

Who is going to nurture and continue the native culture which has grown out of the land and climate of the british isles if the people living within the nation of 'britain' have no affinity with that culture?

 

Who will bother to learn and remember the history of these isles if the people living here feel no affinity with that history because it did not involve their own ancestors? In which case won't it just get 'memory hole'd' like in orwells 1984 or just re-written by the social engineers to create a false perception of what actually happened? And who would care if they did do that?

 

Who will uphold british customs such as common law or the festivals of these islands if those are not the values or beliefs of the people now living in those islands and what will be the social and political ramifications of a failure to do that?

 

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Can you give me a description of what is British? 

 

In a legal sense it is anyone with citizenship of the country of britain (i think the country is the 'UK')

 

But what if the legal country of britain is something that has been created by an invading force that is hostile to the natives of the british isles? What if the freemasonic establishment is run by sabbatean-jews who control 'the crown' and the institutions of the legal entity that is 'britain'?

 

Does britain, the legal entity then still have legitimacy or could we instead define britain as the land itself and the people who inhabit it?

 

If we define britain as the land and its people (of various ethnicities) then are we acting in the best interests of that by crowding these islands with outsiders or is that MASS influx merely a tactic of social engineering being imposed on the land and its people by the sabbatean-jewish elites who are seeking to destroy all peoples sense of cohesive identity so that they may be remoulded into global citizens who will be enslaved under a globalised technocracy run by the sabbatean-jewish elites?

 

In which case both the natives and the immigrants need to start being more savy about what is going on because ultimately it is going to enslave them all

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Georgia and Tennessee are first states to gain approval to diffuse a chemical known to trigger asthma and other serious respiratory illnesses throughout government buildings, healthcare and food processing facilities and intrastate transportation.

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35 minutes ago, Velma said:

And how do you stock-up for the rest of your life?

 

Poaching will be illegal too, but isn't everything...?

 

The normans did the same thing when they invaded. They declared all the forests to be royal deer parks and any of the indigenous population who hunted deer, to feed their families, as they had always done so, would then be viciously punished often with death (hung up from a nearby tree).

 

The NWO wants everyone off the land and crammed into 'smart cities' which are the 'urban zones' of UN Agenda 2030. This doesn't provide much opportunity for self-sufficiency and in a technocracy where everyones energy is rationed and micro-managed to control 'climate change' no one will be allowed their own veg patch because that can't be standardised and monitored and then managed by the smart system (AI controlled 'internet of things' that gets all the data from ALL electrical appliances through the wifi 5G cloud)

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33 minutes ago, Fluke said:

Good idea. I've been stocking up been thinking of getting an air rifle to keep in the loft. 

 

I grew up in the countryside and roaming around with airguns was something we did and didn't think anything of. Using guns of various kinds is just part of life in the countryside.

 

But in recent years the scottish government has passed a law to require you to hold a licence from the government, which you have to pay for of course, in order to own an airgun. This means that the state now knows who owns airguns and if they want they can swoop and scoop them all up at anytime

 

The justification for these licences is that because some neds in inner city glasgow shot someone, now EVERYONE must be treated as a potential criminal and be made to have a licence

 

The french have done a similar thing with education where they have now banned homeschooling and they say this is because the millions of muslim immigrants they have flooded into the country are now not 'integrating' with french society and are instead living in their own insular and closed off and self-contained 'communities' or what in the past would be called colonies.

 

The french state is now saying they are concerned that there are some muslims who are educating their children outside of the state schools and are therefore passing on their islamic beliefs and values to those children instead of the secular values of the french republic. Because of this they are now going to deprive ALL french people of the right to home educate their children which means that ALL children must now go to state indoctrination centres

 

So constantly the actions of a small few are being used as a justification to impose limits on the masses that ultimately impinge their individual freedoms and hand more power to the state

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30 minutes ago, alexa said:

@wingwang I watched Fahrenheit 451, I particularly liked the ending, the book people, if I wanted to be book person I rather like to be known as Ms Bible. :classic_biggrin:

https://youtu.be/hMTsLF-Jw-Y

 

Have you watched this?

 

 

 

 

I love that TZ episode, and I'm surprised that they haven't edited Mein Kampf out of Fahrenheit 451. I would have thought the woke mob would have been all over that.

 

An interesting factoid:

 

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50 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

I've fuckin had enough of it now. My mum and dad have now had Billy Gates' Satan juice, so now I'm looking like the black sheep. My mum really pissed me off. Stood there with face seeking approval and when I told her it was her choice and she will face the the repercussions, had the audacity to ask what that would be! Fuck me, like I've not been telling them for months. I love my family and I don't ever want to see them get hurt, but they've all made their beds, so they can lie in it.

 

I'll wait and see if my brother is a sell out. 

Your Mum is probably thinking ( to quote a classic)  ‘how sharper than a serpent’s tooth it is, to have a thankless child’. I feel for ya, I dunno what I’d do if my Mum wanted this Voodoo. I’m glad I don’t have to deal with it tbh

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1 hour ago, Morpheus said:

I've fuckin had enough of it now. My mum and dad have now had Billy Gates' Satan juice, so now I'm looking like the black sheep. My mum really pissed me off. Stood there with face seeking approval and when I told her it was her choice and she will face the the repercussions, had the audacity to ask what that would be! Fuck me, like I've not been telling them for months. I love my family and I don't ever want to see them get hurt, but they've all made their beds, so they can lie in it.

 

I'll wait and see if my brother is a sell out. 

I feel every word of this, exact same thing happened to me. I also know my siblings will be taking that pish.

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1 hour ago, Morpheus said:

I've fuckin had enough of it now. My mum and dad have now had Billy Gates' Satan juice, so now I'm looking like the black sheep. My mum really pissed me off. Stood there with face seeking approval and when I told her it was her choice and she will face the the repercussions, had the audacity to ask what that would be! Fuck me, like I've not been telling them for months. I love my family and I don't ever want to see them get hurt, but they've all made their beds, so they can lie in it.

 

I'll wait and see if my brother is a sell out. 

 

 

Sorry to hear this mate. A lot of us are in the same situation.  You have tried your best. But they have sealed their own fate I feel.

 

This is what Mike Adams has to say:

 

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47 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

'Britain' in a legal sense is a country so if you are a citizen of that country then you are british

 

 

So lets say someone wants better work 'opportunities' and they move to britain to pursue those better work opportunities. They then seek and gain citizenship. They are now legally 'british'. But do they feel an affinity with the land of britain and its history and culture (which has regional diversity)?

 

What if they don't? What if they feel an affinity with a culture from another part of the world and don't really care about the history of this country? What then is their loyalty to? Is their loyalty based around what is economically advantageous to them ie what opportunities they can gain in which case if they are offered better opportunities somewhere else will they then just upsticks and move there? ie a fairweather citizen

 

Are they loyal to the culture from which they came? If that is the case and they are a small number of people then that isn't going to impact too heavily on the host population but if they are not a small number and flood in in their millions then that will inevitably water down the host culture because now they will have their own 'community' and will be demanding that THEIR culture and its architecture, clothing, belief system, values, food, music, movies and so on should be given a more predominant position in society

 

Who is going to nurture and continue the native culture which has grown out of the land and climate of the british isles if the people living within the nation of 'britain' have no affinity with that culture?

 

Who will bother to learn and remember the history of these isles if the people living here feel no affinity with that history because it did not involve their own ancestors? In which case won't it just get 'memory hole'd' like in orwells 1984 or just re-written by the social engineers to create a false perception of what actually happened? And who would care if they did do that?

 

Who will uphold british customs such as common law or the festivals of these islands if those are not the values or beliefs of the people now living in those islands and what will be the social and political ramifications of a failure to do that?

 

 

In a legal sense it is anyone with citizenship of the country of britain (i think the country is the 'UK')

 

But what if the legal country of britain is something that has been created by an invading force that is hostile to the natives of the british isles? What if the freemasonic establishment is run by sabbatean-jews who control 'the crown' and the institutions of the legal entity that is 'britain'?

 

Does britain, the legal entity then still have legitimacy or could we instead define britain as the land itself and the people who inhabit it?

 

If we define britain as the land and its people (of various ethnicities) then are we acting in the best interests of that by crowding these islands with outsiders or is that MASS influx merely a tactic of social engineering being imposed on the land and its people by the sabbatean-jewish elites who are seeking to destroy all peoples sense of cohesive identity so that they may be remoulded into global citizens who will be enslaved under a globalised technocracy run by the sabbatean-jewish elites?

 

In which case both the natives and the immigrants need to start being more savy about what is going on because ultimately it is going to enslave them all

I was asking more in relation to this quote

 

 

For example if the demographics of britain change due to massive influxes of people who then don't feel particularly british, those people will then more willingly accept a new identity as something else eg a 'european' under the EU or a 'global citizen' under a world government in the form of the UN

 

what is happening now is happening worldwide and our identity of where we were born has little to do with it.  You say those people who do not feel particularly British being more accepting of their new identity as agents of the world government but it is those same Brexiters who stand up for the queens speech and think they’re more special that are the most accepting of it. It is also those of minority ethnicities being the most weary. Perhaps because they’ve lived through dictatorships or just know their history. 
 

The Brexiters seem the easiest to control with methods they are using. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, Morpheus said:

I've fuckin had enough of it now. My mum and dad have now had Billy Gates' Satan juice, so now I'm looking like the black sheep. My mum really pissed me off. Stood there with face seeking approval and when I told her it was her choice and she will face the the repercussions, had the audacity to ask what that would be! Fuck me, like I've not been telling them for months. I love my family and I don't ever want to see them get hurt, but they've all made their beds, so they can lie in it.

 

I'm sure many of us can relate to how you are feeling

 

We can only do what we can do. You gave them the information so that they were not nescient. Instead they CHOSE ignore-ance....they chose to ignore the information

 

Once you have fulfilled your responsibility then at some point you have to detach emotionally for your own health. You can't force people to change. All you can do is supply the information and then let them make the choice

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13 minutes ago, Liberty said:

I was asking more in relation to this quote

 

 

For example if the demographics of britain change due to massive influxes of people who then don't feel particularly british, those people will then more willingly accept a new identity as something else eg a 'european' under the EU or a 'global citizen' under a world government in the form of the UN

 

I answered in relation to that quote

 

So for example with the brexit issue, the 5 million migrants from continental europe (who have applied for citizenship post-brexit) plus the migrants who have returned to their home countries since brexit because of the collapsing job market due to the lockdowns would most likely vote for the UK to stay in the EU because they might not FEEL british but rather would want to maintain a connection to continental europe.

 

They may even have been a little afraid of the consequences of brexit. They may have been afraid that britain would suddenly descend into an oscar mosely black shirted boot camp.

 

But the point is that if you flood lots of people in from elsewhere they may not feel emotionally invested in britain as a living cultural experience nor as a legal entity and as a result they may act 'democratically' in ways that would then destroy britain as a living cultural experience or as a legal entity

 

Is this not just common sense?

 

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what is happening now is happening worldwide and our identity of where we were born has little to do with it.  You say those people who do not feel particularly British being more accepting of their new identity as agents of the world government but it is those same Brexiters who stand up for the queens speech and think they’re more special that are the most accepting of it. It is also those of minority ethnicities being the most weary. Perhaps because they’ve lived through dictatorships or just know their history. 
 

The Brexiters seem the easiest to control with methods they are using.

 

why do you say that british people who stand for the queens speech think they are 'special'?

 

Do people all around the world not listen to the figureheads of their nation or sing their national anthem?

 

Now i DON'T stand for the queens speech nor do i even listen to it, but i don't do it because i don't love britain i do it because for me britain is not the queen and the politicians and the city of london for whom i have utter contempt. For me britain is the land and its people and in my perception the queen and the city banksters and the politicians are a breed apart who are part of a kabbalistic network working across the world to destroy all native peoples culture in order to merge everyone together into a one world citizenry under a one world government run by those people

 

The covid injections are part of their scheme

 

So i am not a flag waving, jingoistic nationalist but i have a deep love for this land and its people. The state-socialists and the state-capitalists cannot understand me

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6 minutes ago, FrankVitali said:

Covid vaccination may be required before every foreign holiday, say scientists

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/02/19/coronavirus-vaccination-may-required-every-foreign-holiday-say/

 

 

 

 

YOUR CAN STICK UR POISON VACCINES UP YER ARSE

 

 

I think they are saying this so that everyone runs out and gets the vaccine, thinking oh I want to go to Spain so I better get the jab, I really don't think they can do this it's discrimination and I can see a lot of legal problems if the try this shit , they can say that you need to get the test to prove your negative but they can't force you to take a vaccine just to travel .

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3 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

why do you say that british people who stand for the queens speech think they are 'special'?

They’re attached to the hive mind of what think it means to be British.  Their government is taking care of them. Everything is being done for their benefit. They can’t see past their nose or contemplate the destruction. Self centred and do indeed think they’re special and help in the destruction.  Others are not attached to the hive mind or base their whole identity on the flag and have their own identities and can’t be manipulated. 
 

They can look past slights of dubious character to get what they want. It was an exchange in “Get Brexit Done”. The country was already going the shitter and voted for more of the same.  Corporations needed reeling in. Tories promised corporation tax cuts. Like it not. It was consented to by the Brexiters. 

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18 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

I'm sure many of us can relate to how you are feeling

 

We can only do what we can do. You gave them the information so that they were not nescient. Instead they CHOSE ignore-ance....they chose to ignore the information

 

Once you have fulfilled your responsibility then at some point you have to detach emotionally for your own health. You can't force people to change. All you can do is supply the information and then let them make the choice

It is a trap for the masses.

 

It is important to lure as many people as possible into taking that first shot,to have them cross that rubicon with gaslighting false hope of returning to some kind of normality then pull the rug by moving the goalposts.

 

Once you agree to the first it will be increasing in frequency with biannual to monthly.

 

Each dose has the potential to incrementally attack your intelligence chromosomes:effectively slowly dumbing you down to imbecility.

 

The unpricked will become the enemy and targeted by the zombified morons who will wiilingly,indeed eagerly take you down with them like a drowning man panicking and attacking his rescuer.

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