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3 minutes ago, Orange Alert said:

 

I will have to ask at my local olde English-Pakistani corner shop if they have the yellow stickers. I expect the answer will be on the lines of "we got no yellow badges. You don't need to show us any stinking yellow badges".

 

Feck the supermarkets.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

Any component? Do we know what all the component parts of this witch's brew are? Eye of newt, toe of frog...

 

It's a powerful document to print out and take to your doctor, since it comes from the FDA. Say, "doctor, can you guarantee I won't have an allergic reaction to any component of this vaccine?" Of course your doctor won't know jack shit about it, and if they still try to insist you take it, ask them to sign a legal document that clearly states they are willing to take personal professional responsibility for any reaction you may have.

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13 minutes ago, greatdayforfreedom said:

Isn't it true that people that have a history of allergies should not take this 'vaccine'?   So what makes them think that they can inject everybody? They can't. 

Yes. If a medical professional thinks you may have a severe adverse or allergic reaction to a vacccine then I believe you are exempt.

 

This was the case for me when I travelled from Peru to Costa Rica just before this pandemic. I went to see the travel dr in England fully prepared to get my yellow fever jab. When I got there she said I can give you the jab which I think cost something like £75, or she can write on a card for passport control that I am exempt based on her opinion and that would cost £25. So I said I'll do the latter. 

 

When I got to passport control in costa rica they didn't really give much of a hoot to be fair.

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Testing For What?

The main trick Vaccine Companies are using with their safety testing is that they only test drugs (not vaccines) for the effect on the target virus.  So Covid Drugs are tested against Covid.

 

But they are not tested for the effect on your health in general.  Numerous studies show that these drugs damage your immune system so that it is more likely to catch other dieases.

 

The "scientists" call this "vaccine interference" which doesn't sound as bad as vaccine-damage or immune-damage-caused-by vaccines.

 

Covid Drugs and other drugs that are not vaccines ... are never tested for the effect on your overall health which is actually the main point, because if you are given immunity to Covid but then 50% more likely to die of flu as a result due to vaccine-interference then taking this drug would be insane.

 

Studies into vaccine-interference are never done by Big Pharma.   They don't dare doing any testing on the overall picture of health because it would destroy their business.

 

So the main studies that exist come from military studies and CDC/ national studies.  I will attach a PDF with some studies in it, but the 3 recent ones are :

 

1. 2019  US Department of Defence studied 10,000 military personal and discovered that if you have a yearly seasonal flu vaccination you get vaccine-interference and are 36% more likely to pick up infections from Coronaviruses.

 

2. 2009  Canadian CDC (British Columbia) has 4 studies showing that the seasonal flu vaccination made you more likely to get swine flu in 2008-9.

 

3. Bergamo, Italy suffered catastrophic deaths in Spring 2020 from Covid ... 35 miles away in Milan they did not.  What was it about Bergamo?  Well the Bergamo Authorities had administered 210,000 vaccines for seasonal flu and meningitis C ... this was a big push by the Bergamo medicis at the end of 2019.  This was only done in Bergamo.

And after the 210,000 vaccines were injected into the Bergamo people ... many of them died when Covid arrived.

Whereas in Milan they did not order the vaccines and had no such deaths.

 

PDF:

https://tinyurl.com/y43dhf9r

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2 minutes ago, Mr H said:

Yes. If a medical professional thinks you may have a severe adverse or allergic reaction to a vacccine then I believe you are exempt.

 

This was the case for me when I travelled from Peru to Costa Rica just before this pandemic. I went to see the travel dr in England fully prepared to get my yellow fever jab. When I got there she said I can give you the jab which I think cost something like £75, or she can write on a card for passport control that I am exempt based on her opinion and that would cost £25. So I said I'll do the latter. 

 

When I got to passport control in costa rica they didn't really give much of a hoot to be fair.

 

I wish I had some allergies. I guess I'm screwed. No exemption for me. Unless seasonal hey-fever counts lol. Lucky allergic exempt bastards.

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1 minute ago, DarianF said:

 

I wish I had some allergies. I guess I'm screwed. No exemption for me. Unless seasonal hey-fever counts lol. Lucky allergic exempt bastards.

I don't and didn't have any allergies either!

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2 minutes ago, Mr H said:

But only exempts you for one trip in the above case. Said you would need to repeat should travel in those zones in the future.

 

And anyway, even if one country accepts your exemption, who is to say the next country will? They will make your life hell until you get the jab. They don't give two shits if you drop dead. They are not liable. The person injecting you is not liable. No one is.

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1 minute ago, Mr H said:

I don't and didn't have any allergies either!

 

I would like to see in real life if many people get genuine medical exemptions that actually work. I guess nothing less than a signed doctor's letter will suffice. Or, it wouldn't surprise me if they start refusing letters from a GP. My guess is they will force you to get a GP referral to a specialist who will put you through hell to get that exemption letter (most likely will reject your argument).

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1 minute ago, DarianF said:

 

And anyway, even if one country accepts your exemption, who is to say the next country will? They will make your life hell until you get the jab. They don't give two shits if you drop dead. They are not liable. The person injecting you is not liable. No one is.

According to the travel DR I had, if you have exempt and the medical stamp on the form no one is going to challenge you.

 

Unless things get really bad, no one can prove that in the past you may have had a severe adverse reaction to a vaccination. 

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1 minute ago, Mr H said:

According to the travel DR I had, if you have exempt and the medical stamp on the form no one is going to challenge you.

 

Unless things get really bad, no one can prove that in the past you may have had a severe adverse reaction to a vaccination. 

 

Depends how badly Bill Gates is willing to push this. We'll see.

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Just now, Mr H said:

Guess we'll have to wait and see how extreme they go Anyway think ol David Icke is livestreaming soon. Better get the popcorn! :) 

 

Oh yes. Thanks for the heads up! Can't wait!! (always the best part of my week)

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Yeah should be a good one.

 

I think that is one of the questions they have to ask you before they try and jab you anyway.

 

Have you ever had an adverse reaction to vaccination? And if you say yes, then I'm not sure they can go ahead with it, or it would at least provoke a further discussion with medical staff.... so yeah, if it gets to that, just say, yes last time I had a vax I grew an extra head and a third bollock! :) 

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1 minute ago, Mr H said:

Yeah should be a good one.

 

I think that is one of the questions they have to ask you before they try and jab you anyway.

 

Have you ever had an adverse reaction to vaccination? And if you say yes, then I'm not sure they can go ahead with it, or it would at least provoke a further discussion with medical staff.... so yeah, if it gets to that, just say, yes last time I had a vax I grew an extra head and a third bollock! :) 

 

Unfortunately, I've never had an adverse reaction to a vaccine. I used to think that was great. Now it's working against me. Damn it.

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51 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

 

I'd start with that I am allergic to shellfish and was advised not to take the vaccine. Then if they ask for proof, so you don't want to share medical records and data protection. Ask them to sign a form that states that they are liable financially for your healthcare for the rest of your life, if there are any negative side effects from the vaccine, including if you become so ill that you are unable to work. They are unlikely to want to sign it, if they fire you then you can go to unfair dismissal route. 

Good advice and I'd add to it with refusing to verbally speak to employers about the jab. Insist they communicate with you about it only in writing or email. That way there is a written record of their interactions. If it isn't written down then there's no way you can prove such and such a thing was said

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