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3 hours ago, motleyhoo said:

I have lived through many different recessions.  I do not see how what they have done is not going to be a major depression.  We're not talking about bad sales reports or a bad couple of quarters on Wall Street.  We're talking a total and complete halt to the economy that includes the permanent destruction of at least 50% of small businesses, completely disrupted supply chains in every single economic sector,  shortages in everything from computer chips to wooden coat hangers, and many of these factories will take months to get back online and running at the level they were before.  To make matters worse, their insane social distancing rules that every business is required by political correctness to enforce are making it impossible for the entertainment and sports industries to get back on their feet.  People might be just starting to go back to the beach, but what can they do when they're there and where are they going to spend their money when 50% of everything is shutdown and the other 50% is acting like a major toxic spill just occurred on the premises.  There's actually a reason why so many politicians have been using the term Great Reset, because that's what they're about to do, and they have already telegraphed to us that "life will never be the same" and "this is the new norm".  You don't even have to read tea leaves to see it coming.  

 

Agree - This is inevitable and of course as you already know they control the flow of money, the great depression was caused & prolonged ultimately by the lack of liquidity and government was completely complicit as they are now. 

I often wonder when people will realise that all these institutions of officialdom are the terrorists?

 

Our best road forward to avoid complete domination is the adoption of the greenback (US)  the bradbury pound (UK) and similar throughout the world - complete de-centralisation! and a unilateral glass-staegal to protect it from the economic vultures.

 

https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/bradbury-pound-qe-another-name

 

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by Mike Robinson
Wednesday, 22nd October 2014
As people ask more questions of Parliamentarians and others about the Bradbury Pound and the policy it represents, the usual, pathetic, stock answers are thrown back at them. Lets deal with them ...
One of the most common answers that is thrown back is that the Bradbury Pound represents nothing more than Quantitative Easing. The implication is that since the Bank of England has already implemented QE, there is no need to discuss the Bradbury. This is, of course, nonsense.

Ironically, the other answer thrown back by Parliamentarians is that the Bradbury Pound policy would create inflation.

Yet if we look at these arguments, that the Bradbury Pound = Quantitative Easing or that the Bradbury Pound = Inflation, they also argue that QE is ok because it doesn’t cause inflation. It’s not clear how they can have it both ways, but perhaps that comes with being a politician.

Quantitative Easing
QE, or Quantitative Easing, is the process being used by central banks including the Bank of England to bail out their bankrupt financial system. It is considered an “unconventional monetary policy” which can be used to “stimulate” the “economy” when normal monetary policy doesn’t work. In other words, it is an emergency measure.

QE happens when central banks buy up government bonds, using “money” which previously did not exist. In other words, it is a process of pumping money into the financial system for no other particular purpose than some vague notion of “stimulation”. They then sit back and hope that there is an effect. They have no idea what that effect might be.

So far, the Bank of England has mainly bought up government bonds from financial institutions, for example banks, insurance companies and pension funds; mainly those affected by the financial crash, and which, in the case of the banks at least, are bankrupt.

What’s supposed to happen then is that the banks (for example) take that money and lend it into the real economy. The evidence that QE was working would be a larger amount of money in circulation. What actually happened was that banks hoarded that money instead, and for a number of years following the 2007/2008 crash, there was a contraction of money in circulation. But in any case, even if the banks had done what they were supposed to do, and had lent the new Quanitiatively Eased money, what kind of loans would they have created? More speculative mortgages?

If Quantitative Easing had worked, then, it would have resulted in an expansion of the problem which caused the 2007/2008 financial crash.

Is this common sense?

The Bradbury Pound
QE is a bail out. Nothing more, nothing less. Yet if we look at the history, we find that the Bradbury Pound was a bail out as well - but with a difference. It established the principle of Treasury issued national credit. The fact that that national credit was used to bail out banks is irrelevant. The precedent was set.

It is true to say that if the Bradbury Pound were to be reissued as another bailout, then it would be no better than QE. Different, but no better.

That’s not what is being proposed.

The key question is, what should any credit issued as the Bradbury Pound be used for? 

The money created from nothing under the QE policy is just left to float around the financial system, to be used or not at the whim of private banks. The Bradbury, on the other hand, would be used for a quite specific purpose - productive projects to rebuild the basic economic infrastructure of the UK. This would be directed by government, and government held to account for its success or failure.

Economy -v- Finance
The economy is not the financial system. Mainstream media commentators constantly use the terms interchangeably as if they are the same thing, but they are not. 

Economies are real, physical things. Physical raw materials turned into physical products, moved in physical trains or lorries, sold in physical shops. None of that can happen without physical energy supplies, physical water supply, physical roads, railways and bridges.

Our energy, water and transport infrastructure is crumbling. Our health service and education systems are crumbling. Neither our basic infrastructure, nor our workforce, is fit for purpose.

The Bradbury Pound, then, as Treasury issued national credit, would be applied directly to this problem; not left to  be swallowed up by a bankrupt financial system, only to burst free at a later date as rampant hyperinflation.

With a Bradbury directed specifically at rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure, the UK’s real physical economy would get a massive kick. The latest energy technology would see the unit price of energy fall - a key input cost for businesses of all types. Modern, efficient, transport systems would have the same effect. Is this inflationary?

This type of investment can have only one effect - to act as a driver for the rest of the real economy. Real, productive apprenticeships; long term productive jobs. For the first time in a few generations, our young people would see a positive future for themselves which does not involve existing through a mundane job they hate so that they can afford to drink their money away at the weekends. The aim should be to offer people jobs they want to get up for in the mornings.

Exchange Rate
Another pathetic comment from politicians is that an exchange rate would have to be set between the “Bradbury Pound” and Sterling. This is just nonsense. What we are discussing here is Treasury issued credit, which would be issued as Great British Pounds Sterling, just as the original Bradbury Pounds were. 

The Issue Of Backing
Finally, those who mention the words “Bradbury” and “inflation” in the same breath inevitably also mention the problem of money being created from nothing and “backed” by nothing. It should be clear that that is what QE is, and what the Bradbury isn’t.

The Bradbury, as defined above, is not backed by nothing. It’s not backed by gold, of course. It’s backed by something much better than gold. It’s backed by the nation. That’s us - you and me - and the assets we build. 

In other words: our productivity and the real, physical assets that we build. The power stations, the reservoirs, the railways, our sweat equity. This is where true value lies.

 

 

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7 hours ago, jack121 said:

I wish i lived in america where i could buy guns easily. Bet americans are heavily armed.

I suppose that's what it boils down to, when the state turns into a mafia type gang its every man for themselves, thats why the constitution gives you the right to bear arms, it's because those in power need to be kept in check, Abraham Lincoln -  is the right of the citizens to keep and bear arms. [...] the right of the citizens to bear arms is just one guarantee against arbitrary government and one more safeguard against a tyranny.

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Every time I think it can’t get sillier....it does.  Who on earth would do yoga away from fresh air, it seems totally counterproductive to me. I don’t wish to be a part of this ridiculous society, but haven’t money or health to go entirely off grid. 

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7 hours ago, Itsa said:

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/swine-flu-strain-human-pandemic-potential-increasingly-found-chinese-pigs

 

New swine flu capable of infecting humans found in china.

 

Third times the charm ?

 

Here we go again. They don't know when to stop this malarkey (not the flu)....keep the fear machine going!!!

It's like we keep getting busted.....ok, let's do more of it and see if it works.....:classic_rolleyes:

You know when you keep on shouting that a wolf is around, soon or later people stop taking notice.

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52 minutes ago, chocomel said:

 

Here we go again. They don't know when to stop this malarkey (not the flu)....keep the fear machine going!!!

It's like we keep getting busted.....ok, let's do more of it and see if it works.....:classic_rolleyes:

You know when you keep on shouting that a wolf is around, soon or later people stop taking notice.

Maybe the first swine flu was just a test run, an opinion piece see who calls it out see how many would take a vaccine. Corolla virus is the live exercise, inject a bit of fear all seems more real, see how the alternative media reacts who to de-platform who swallows the retarded theories etc etc and then BOOM bird flu city ?

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1 hour ago, HeartSpirit said:

Every time I think it can’t get sillier....it does.  Who on earth would do yoga away from fresh air, it seems totally counterproductive to me. I don’t wish to be a part of this ridiculous society, but haven’t money or health to go entirely off grid. 

 

I feel your pain my friend.

Thing is, I'm 71 now and have had a relatively normal life until all this fucking madness arrived 4 months ago.

I feel so sorry for younger people....especially my grandchildren.

Their future in this now hideous world doesn't bear thinking about (nor mine come to that).

:-(

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8 minutes ago, KillBill said:

Rothchild owned The Econimist, often has cryptic/occult imagery on the cover, somehow seemingly aware of what will happen in future world events. Here's their latest discharge:

 

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Well that's not very reassuring. 

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3 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

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Yoga makes you sweat now you sweat breathe the previous person's sweat and can't get fresh air - yoga studios stink after class.
Oh yeah ... yoga means union with god and almost none of the Indian Sages did any stretching to reach god.
But anyway, twekring next

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10 minutes ago, Itsa said:

Maybe the first swine flu was just a test run, an opinion piece see who calls it out see how many would take a vaccine. Corolla virus is the live exercise, inject a bit of fear all seems more real, see how the alternative media reacts who to de-platform who swallows the retarded theories etc etc and then BOOM bird flu city ?

 

The first swine flu was just badly handled, but they learned from it, especially Bill Gates.  He probably was not behind the swine flu hoax, but he saw it, he studied it, he saw how he could use it, and he studied the mistakes that were made.  There is one thing that changed for sure since then that no one has connected the dots to...until now.

 

Listening to Jimmy Church last night, I was presented with a proven, actual conspiracy that I had never heard about before, and it was a conspiracy proven to be true.  It seems, probably as a result of Project Mockingbird, the news media was doing some really devious and sinister things on TV and radio like hiding subliminal messages in things like the national anthem that said things like "Conform, Consume, Obey.....Conform, Consume, Conform, Consume....The government is great. The govt is good.....Rebellion is prohibited.....Love your government"  I know, it's like They Live, only this actually happened.  This kind of crazy shit went on unseen by the unwitting public until the Frank Church Commission put a stop to it with a new law that banned this kind of behavior.

 

Fast-forward to the Obama administration, and his signing of the NDAA, which effectively nullified that law, giving free reign to the media to once again begin brainwashing an unsuspecting public.  What does this have to do with the pandemic?  Well, we have all been scratching our heads at how easily the public bought into the fake narrative, even though to many of us (but not enough) the fakery and lies are so blatantly obvious that a half blind person with basic math skills can see it's all a fraud. And not just that, but how all these people who have bought into it have turned it into a deep-seated religion like nothing I have ever seen before.  It really is like they have been brainwashed.  Just imagine how far the subliminal and brainwashing technology has come since the days of black and white TV and transistor radios.   I am intuitively convinced, from the pit of my gut, that this is what has been going on.  We haven't really talked about that, or maybe we didn't see those dots exactly, but we need to deep dive a little more into this shit.  I'm just too tired today - insomnia - to do anything.

 

 

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1 hour ago, KillBill said:

Rothchild owned The Econimist, often has cryptic/occult imagery on the cover, somehow seemingly aware of what will happen in future world events. Here's their latest discharge:

 

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Interesting this is, got the pig for this potential new pandemic, global warming shite, solar flare, ww2 has masks with nuclear bomb as a photo (ww3) and the doomsday’s clock in the centre which is close to midnight which means it’s nearly game over. It will be game over for the Rothschilds soon. It would have been interesting if they showed a picture of aliens invading earth 

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52 minutes ago, motleyhoo said:

 

The first swine flu was just badly handled, but they learned from it, especially Bill Gates.  He probably was not behind the swine flu hoax, but he saw it, he studied it, he saw how he could use it, and he studied the mistakes that were made.  There is one thing that changed for sure since then that no one has connected the dots to...until now.

 

Listening to Jimmy Church last night, I was presented with a proven, actual conspiracy that I had never heard about before, and it was a conspiracy proven to be true.  It seems, probably as a result of Project Mockingbird, the news media was doing some really devious and sinister things on TV and radio like hiding subliminal messages in things like the national anthem that said things like "Conform, Consume, Obey.....Conform, Consume, Conform, Consume....The government is great. The govt is good.....Rebellion is prohibited.....Love your government"  I know, it's like They Live, only this actually happened.  This kind of crazy shit went on unseen by the unwitting public until the Frank Church Commission put a stop to it with a new law that banned this kind of behavior.

 

Fast-forward to the Obama administration, and his signing of the NDAA, which effectively nullified that law, giving free reign to the media to once again begin brainwashing an unsuspecting public.  What does this have to do with the pandemic?  Well, we have all been scratching our heads at how easily the public bought into the fake narrative, even though to many of us (but not enough) the fakery and lies are so blatantly obvious that a half blind person with basic math skills can see it's all a fraud. And not just that, but how all these people who have bought into it have turned it into a deep-seated religion like nothing I have ever seen before.  It really is like they have been brainwashed.  Just imagine how far the subliminal and brainwashing technology has come since the days of black and white TV and transistor radios.   I am intuitively convinced, from the pit of my gut, that this is what has been going on.  We haven't really talked about that, or maybe we didn't see those dots exactly, but we need to deep dive a little more into this shit.  I'm just too tired today - insomnia - to do anything.

 

 

I’ll check that stuff out cheers as mind control is a fascinating topic. What I know about tv is after a minute of watching it, you got from your brain wave changes from an alert questioning state to a suggestible state, from beta to alpha. That’s why so many people watch the news and believe every word of it without actually thinking and questioning 

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8 minutes ago, Seeker said:

Interesting this is, got the pig for this potential new pandemic, global warming shite, solar flare, ww2 has masks with nuclear bomb as a photo (ww3) and the doomsday’s clock in the centre which is close to midnight which means it’s nearly game over. It will be game over for the Rothschilds soon. It would have been interesting if they showed a picture of aliens invading earth 

 

Interesting about the time, certainly could be that. I had thought the time referenced the lockdowns often being implemented at 11:59 in many places (Parts of US, Aus & NZ).

 

Aliens (? What else is the plug/outlet on there for) ?

 

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1 hour ago, KillBill said:

Rothchild owned The Econimist, often has cryptic/occult imagery on the cover, somehow seemingly aware of what will happen in future world events. Here's their latest discharge:

 

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It's like an escape the room

I wanna click the plug socket and the gas mask filter

 

I don't trust either of the adults, they only gave the lad a helmet...no gas mask for him but Mr Bigglesworth gets one? Weird

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