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4 minutes ago, AnarchicBreeze said:

When declining the "offer" of an injection through work, my declining was considered a "refusal!". When I pointed out that offers invariably imply a choice of one accepting or not accepting, they tried to imply that I was putting clients at risk. When I pointed out that the clients had been vaccinated already, they tried to say they were looking out for MY health... I just politely ended the conversation and resisted the urge to tell them to fuck off

FANTASTIC!!!!

 

SERIOUSLY WHAT ARE WE GUNNA DO WHEN ITS NO JOB IF YOU HAVENT GOT IT. I MEAN IM GUNNA HOLD OUT FOR ASLONG AS I CAN....BUT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IF IT COMES TO VACCINE OR NOTHING AT ALL.....

 

ITS............

 

BUT..........

 

WHAT THE FUCK

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13 minutes ago, AnarchicBreeze said:

When declining the "offer" of an injection through work, my declining was considered a "refusal!". When I pointed out that offers invariably imply a choice of one accepting or not accepting, they tried to imply that I was putting clients at risk. When I pointed out that the clients had been vaccinated already, they tried to say they were looking out for MY health... I just politely ended the conversation and resisted the urge to tell them to fuck off

 

We are all entitled as to what we put into our bodies. What they did with you was try and make you feel guilty. One has the right to refuse. Play the religious card with them, and that will soon shut them up. Under the Nuremberg code vaccines require informed concent. The individual must be provided with all literature including ingredients, side effects and risks. The problem is the real safety information is being with held, yet we find outside of mainstream media the true horror these mRNA vaccines have caused.

 

They can't even call this a vaccine - a real vaccine simply provides a dead virus that the body can learn to defend itself against. These are different they are more like gene therapy becuase the mRNA in the vaccine is genetically modified material which inserts itself into the cells nucleus which is then replicated all over the body (even into the bodies organs eventually). That why so many are dying after taking the vaccine as Cytokine storm within the body then causes the bodies immune system to attack itself and go into overdrive which has caused seizsures, death and bells palsy. They did experiments on animals using mRNA vaccines they all died. You cannot cure a flu or cold with a mRNA vaccine.

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1 hour ago, Cassady said:

 

That's a great insight and spot on.

Its like this, i dont need no bastards in government to be my saviour or anybody elses cause they dont giv a fuck about saving your life my life or anybodys fucking life. If this was all happenining before all this today media shite(100 years ago) then death and disaster would take its coarse ,we'd all die and the survivors would be crying while shovelling us in to our graves amen. But there is no death and disaster lockdown or not and you'd think the'yd be great believers in god to be trying to save us all by IMPRISONING us ,but theyve as much belief in god or worshipping him as satan himself has. If this was real we'd still be going about normal business and what would be would be. Why to fuck can people not see this !

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FANTASTIC!!!!

 

SERIOUSLY WHAT ARE WE GUNNA DO WHEN ITS NO JOB IF YOU HAVENT GOT IT. I MEAN IM GUNNA HOLD OUT FOR ASLONG AS I CAN....BUT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO IF IT COMES TO VACCINE OR NOTHING AT ALL.....

 

ITS............

 

BUT..........

 

WHAT THE FUCK

They will contact me again to try to coerce me into having the injection. It's illegal (currently) to try to coerce so I will refuse to verbally speak about the matter and insist they  only approach the subject with me via email. That way there is a written record of the interaction that can be used in a constructive dismissal case against them. I'd suggest others do the same.

 

As for what to do if it becomes no jab no job, I can't say. Realistically, alternative employment will be non existent so people will need to weigh need for wage with care for one's own health and make their own choices. Sadly this is where this will go. Personally, I value my health more and am lucky enough to have already downsized my exposure to this extortionate work-to-exist world so I won't be having it no matter what they try

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I forgot tomorrow is pancake day.  Boy it's really creped up on us this year.

 

The police in that video above must have really creped themselves.

 

Thats the best I got  for pun-cake jokes.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Daz181 said:

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/1398194/Covid-passport-lockdown-latest-boris-johnson-theatres-night-clubs-restaurants

Covid passports will become the passport to life and the disobedient will be be given the right to starve.

 

what cunt.. 

 

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"If it allows us to have important freedoms back, is this infringement on one civil liberty such a bad thing?"

 

 

 

 

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I admit for me it's easier. Most of my life I was at odds with the system and not subject to control. More of a social drop-out but I always found ways to survive. I even camped in the peaks around Spain and gave English classes to get a bit of money. Most people will find it very hard to choose between work and a forced vaccine. I will say this though: To give in to a bully just emboldens the bully. It postpones more attacks on your liberty and freedom of choice. The vaccine doesn't protect others which is admitted officially. So why should we take the risk if we feel we aren't personally at risk? The more people use threats I'm afraid the more I'm prepared to go in the opposite way. Those who feel the same way I advise to prepare a plan, be it a mobile home or some alternative.

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3 minutes ago, Shining-one said:

I admit for me it's easier. Most of my life I was at odds with the system and not subject to control. More of a social drop-out but I always found ways to survive. I even camped in the peaks around Spain and gave English classes to get a bit of money. Most people will find it very hard to choose between work and a forced vaccine. I will say this though: To give in to a bully just emboldens the bully. It postpones more attacks on your liberty and freedom of choice. The vaccine doesn't protect others which is admitted officially. So why should we take the risk if we feel we aren't personally at risk? The more people use threats I'm afraid the more I'm prepared to go in the opposite way. Those who feel the same way I advise to prepare a plan, be it a mobile home or some alternative.

Did you ever get to San Pedro?

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1 hour ago, SimonTV said:

 

Apart from the massacres, deaths and famines for which communism was responsible, the worst thing about the system was the official lying: that is to say the lying in which everyone was forced to take part, by repetition, assent or failure to contradict. I came to the conclusion that the purpose of propaganda in communist countries was not to persuade, much less to inform, but to humiliate and emasculate. In this sense, the less true it was, the less it corresponded in any way to reality, the better; the more it contradicted the experience of the persons to whom it was directed, the more docile, self-despising for their failure to protest, and impotent they became.

Theodore Dalrymple

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6 minutes ago, Shining-one said:

I admit for me it's easier. Most of my life I was at odds with the system and not subject to control. More of a social drop-out but I always found ways to survive. I even camped in the peaks around Spain and gave English classes to get a bit of money. Most people will find it very hard to choose between work and a forced vaccine. I will say this though: To give in to a bully just emboldens the bully. It postpones more attacks on your liberty and freedom of choice. The vaccine doesn't protect others which is admitted officially. So why should we take the risk if we feel we aren't personally at risk? The more people use threats I'm afraid the more I'm prepared to go in the opposite way. Those who feel the same way I advise to prepare a plan, be it a mobile home or some alternative.

I’ve led a boring life by most people’s standards but enjoyed it. I’ve always been stubborn. Something I tried to squash against but it has came back raging when it needed to. 

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1 hour ago, kestrel said:

 

We are now required to double mask, wear visors, approns and shoe protectors before entering a residents room and which must be removed upon leaving each room. This must be repeated when we visit each resident. The double masks and visors are of great health concern; my colleagues and I can hardly breathe with two masks on. Yet is now company policy to wear two masks. This is Dr Fauci's crazy idea via the World Health Organisation (WHO). Wear two masks at work causes me hypertension wearing the damn things all day. Great how an employer can damage ones health, but when I remove a mask for a brief moment I must face displinary action with my employer. 

You must resist otherwise next week it will be 4 masks and 2 visors, your boss needs to be made to think.

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2 minutes ago, Outsider said:

You must resist otherwise next week it will be 4 masks and 2 visors, your boss needs to be made to think.

Designed to make her spend as least possible time with the residents in order to breathe.  In order to kill them off faster.  

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How weird is that! I Looked up San Pedro and it's a cactus. A hallucegenic one at that. I recently started to grow cactus but just ones sold at local stores.
More people agreeing with me lately on the street. Those who 2 months ago still felt the virus was a major threat are now taking a 180 degree turn. The saying is true: You can fool all of the people "some" of the time. I was also informed today of a punch-up at the local chippy over someone not wearing a mask. More people are not wearing them and arguments arise.

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Surprised nobody has figured out yet how to capitalise on masks. Great for protests don't you think? Nobody knows who you are. Years ago burkhas were causing alarm just for that reason.
I had to laugh. My local store had a sign requesting younger shoppers to remove masks when buying alcohol. What then is the use of that? If I were that age I'd be tempted to reply I daren't remove the mask and risk death over a bottle of wine. Lay the exact cash down and adios.

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9 minutes ago, Outsider said:

Apart from the massacres, deaths and famines for which communism was responsible, the worst thing about the system was the official lying: that is to say the lying in which everyone was forced to take part, by repetition, assent or failure to contradict. I came to the conclusion that the purpose of propaganda in communist countries was not to persuade, much less to inform, but to humiliate and emasculate. In this sense, the less true it was, the less it corresponded in any way to reality, the better; the more it contradicted the experience of the persons to whom it was directed, the more docile, self-despising for their failure to protest, and impotent they became.

Theodore Dalrymple

I've heard the facism imposed on us described as a new communist state but I disagree. Arguably the ruling elites in both communism and capitalism seek to gain power; in capitalism the accumulation of power is achieved through the accumulation of wealth and connections, in communism it is achieved more directly through use of the state apparatus to eradicate opposition. The same ultimate objectives only different paths to it. 

 

What's happening here now remains capitalist but is also incorporating the worst communist power-grabbing tactics. Whereas China seems to have found a middle path of the better aspects of capitalism and communism, our corrupt elites are forging a middle path of the worst aspects of both ideologies.

 

Seems to be a fairly certain way to ensure a continued state of ideological polarity in the world, seeing as China's way is increasingly being accepted by many countries.

 

Western militarized countries need their bogeymen to keep the military industrial complexes' pockets full. If China has monopolised the civil and mutually beneficial approach, only the dark, deeply unpleasant (for us) approach remains as a polar opposite standpoint

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21 minutes ago, Shining-one said:

How weird is that! I Looked up San Pedro and it's a cactus. A hallucegenic one at that. I recently started to grow cactus but just ones sold at local stores.
More people agreeing with me lately on the street. Those who 2 months ago still felt the virus was a major threat are now taking a 180 degree turn. The saying is true: You can fool all of the people "some" of the time. I was also informed today of a punch-up at the local chippy over someone not wearing a mask. More people are not wearing them and arguments arise.

San Pedro is a alternative village in the south of Spain. There are quite a few similar places in Spain that a little bit of tinterweb digging can turn up. If things really go south here, aiming for one of them could be a good option

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