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59 minutes ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

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Gauze mask only in sick rooms. And this crisis was real. Far deadlier than the seasonal flu they call covid.

Avoid worry, fear and fatigue, now that was genuinely good advice. That health advice from 1918 is far more useful than anything SAGE has come up with. 

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37 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

Oh no defiantly not😉 Just imagine this vaccine might change her into a bigger monster or at best might kill her (Hope) 

Wonder if prisoners get any choice in the matter? What if you refuse the vax...can't exactly lock you away for non compliance!..maybe get bunged in solitary I suppose.

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8 minutes ago, Outsider said:

Avoid worry, fear and fatigue, now that was genuinely good advice. That health advice from 1918 is far more useful than anything SAGE has come up with. 

100 years later and the science has gone backwards!

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3 minutes ago, Outsider said:

Wonder if prisoners get any choice in the matter? What if you refuse the vax...can't exactly lock you away for non compliance!..maybe get bunged in solitary I suppose.

 

I would imagine that they don't have a choice in the matter, poor souls.

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4 hours ago, Seeker said:

And amazingly with Spanish flu, there was no evidence it was contagious! 

 

 

They couldnt infect 100 volunteers with the ‘spanish flu’, the only criticism I have seen on this is that 100 people is a small sample. Interesting either way 

 

 

Good article on the Spanish Flu 

 

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/03/no_author/did-a-vaccine-experiment-on-u-s-soldiers-cause-the-spanish-flu/

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6 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

I would imagine that they don't have a choice in the matter, poor souls.

Oxford vaccine to be tested on children in new clinical trial

The efficacy of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine in children is set to be tested in a new clinical trial in the UK, PA Media reports.

Researchers will use 300 volunteers to assess whether the jab - known as the the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine - will produce a strong immune response in children aged between six and 17.

The Oxford jab is one of three to have been approved for use in adults in the UK, along with those from Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna. It has, however, been found to be less effective at providing immunity to some strains of coronavirus.

Andrew Pollard, professor of paediatric infection and immunity, and chief investigator on the Oxford vaccine trial, said:

While most children are relatively unaffected by coronavirus and are unlikely to become unwell with the infection, it is important to establish the safety and immune response to the vaccine in children and young people as some children may benefit from vaccination.

These new trials will extend our understanding of control of SARS-CoV2 to younger age groups.

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1 minute ago, Outsider said:

Oxford vaccine to be tested on children in new clinical trial

The efficacy of the Oxford/AstraZeneca vaccine in children is set to be tested in a new clinical trial in the UK, PA Media reports.

Researchers will use 300 volunteers to assess whether the jab - known as the the ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 vaccine - will produce a strong immune response in children aged between six and 17.

The Oxford jab is one of three to have been approved for use in adults in the UK, along with those from Pfizer/BioNTech and Moderna. It has, however, been found to be less effective at providing immunity to some strains of coronavirus.

Andrew Pollard, professor of paediatric infection and immunity, and chief investigator on the Oxford vaccine trial, said:

While most children are relatively unaffected by coronavirus and are unlikely to become unwell with the infection, it is important to establish the safety and immune response to the vaccine in children and young people as some children may benefit from vaccination.

These new trials will extend our understanding of control of SARS-CoV2 to younger age groups.

How can a 6 year old child volunteer for such a trial? Any parent that allows them to be experimented on is surely committing child abuse? 

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4 minutes ago, Outsider said:

How can a 6 year old child volunteer for such a trial? Any parent that allows them to be experimented on is surely committing child abuse? 

 

I know, this one angers me 😠

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There is no way in hell I or any of my family will be taking the Covid vaccines. Seeing that is being pushed by the Psychopathic Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the rest of the Psycho Elite it's a good bet that this is to mutate your DNA to set up your body to kill itself. After reading about the animal trials where they injected hundreds of Cats and Ferrets with their 'vaccines' it is obvious. Some of the animals died due to the original injection but it wasn't until they did the 'challenge' test which was to expose the injected animals to the virus that they realised the full potential for this Population Control injection when ALL the animals died!! Pscho Bill Gates said the next Pandemic will be worse. Yes it will because the next one will switch on the Genetic codes people have just been injected with and their bodies will start shutting down. 

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8 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

I know, this one angers me 😠

Andrew Pollard, professor of paediatric infection and immunity, and chief investigator on the Oxford vaccine trial, said:

While most children are relatively unaffected by coronavirus and are unlikely to become unwell with the infection, it is important to establish the safety and immune response

 

Important to establish the safety, so professor Pollard is ok with using 300 children as test subjects to establish the safety. What happens if the safety is not established and they become ill? Will he just shrug his shoulders and say it was worth a try for the greater good?

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1 hour ago, Outsider said:

Andrew Pollard, professor of paediatric infection and immunity, and chief investigator on the Oxford vaccine trial, said:

While most children are relatively unaffected by coronavirus and are unlikely to become unwell with the infection, it is important to establish the safety and immune response

 

Important to establish the safety, so professor Pollard is ok with using 300 children as test subjects to establish the safety. What happens if the safety is not established and they become ill? Will he just shrug his shoulders and say it was worth a try for the greater good?

In the pre covid era there would be uproar across the country that a professor was looking for 300 children so that he could inject them with a monkey virus to see if it was safe! There would be absolute uproar and I seriously doubt any parent would volunteer their child to participate. 

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1 hour ago, stevcolx said:

There is no way in hell I or any of my family will be taking the Covid vaccines. Seeing that is being pushed by the Psychopathic Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation and the rest of the Psycho Elite it's a good bet that this is to mutate your DNA to set up your body to kill itself. After reading about the animal trials where they injected hundreds of Cats and Ferrets with their 'vaccines' it is obvious. Some of the animals died due to the original injection but it wasn't until they did the 'challenge' test which was to expose the injected animals to the virus that they realised the full potential for this Population Control injection when ALL the animals died!! Pscho Bill Gates said the next Pandemic will be worse. Yes it will because the next one will switch on the Genetic codes people have just been injected with and their bodies will start shutting down. 

 

My old man thinks this may all be a big eugenics experiment to see who is smart enough not to take the jab and keep them alive to be the people of the new world. Then have a sort of Hunger Games scenario with those who are left. I pointed out that tyrants don't have a history of keeping many critical thinkers around, but interesting theory nonetheless.

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1 hour ago, Outsider said:

Andrew Pollard, professor of paediatric infection and immunity, and chief investigator on the Oxford vaccine trial, said:

While most children are relatively unaffected by coronavirus and are unlikely to become unwell with the infection, it is important to establish the safety and immune response

 

Important to establish the safety, so professor Pollard is ok with using 300 children as test subjects to establish the safety. What happens if the safety is not established and they become ill? Will he just shrug his shoulders and say it was worth a try for the greater good?

Incredible isn't it? 

 

How as a parent do you think that this is a good idea, but sadly they'll be queuing up with their kids trying to get them done first. Really sad state of affairs to be in and all very depressing. 

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1 minute ago, Illmatic said:

 

My old man thinks this may all be a big eugenics experiment to see who is smart enough not to take the jab and keep them alive to be the people of the new world. Then have a sort of Hunger Games scenario with those who are left. I pointed out that tyrants don't have a history of keeping many critical thinkers around, but interesting theory nonetheless.

I often think that myself at times, whether this is a giant experiment to discover why humans think and act in different ways. Maybe the celebs, gov and media are also being experimented on to see how that can override their conscience with the lure of paper money....brass eye style?

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Dr Thomas Cowan has happened upon this paper published in 2007 in the Journal of Clinical Microbiology. The paper describes how new techniques had been developed which could characterise new viruses using different primer sequences including SARS viruses – SARS-CoV-1, SARS-CoV-2 and SARS-CoV-3!

 

This is an interesting development given that SARS-Cov-2 was not supposedly discovered as a mutation until 2019. And Dr Cowan was not even aware that there is a SARS-CoV-3 virus.

 

Here is the link to Dr Cowan's BitChute video revealing this.

 

https://www.bitchute.com/video/IDgtQwZ94SX0/

 

And the paper itself can be found here. I have snipped the opening summary which clearly shows the reference to SARS-CoV-2 and SARS-CoV-3.

 

https://jcm.asm.org/content/jcm/46/5/1734.full.pdf

 

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4 hours ago, Outsider said:

Wonder what the Chanel branding signifies? Are there any countries in the world that openly use this technique of capital punishment? If not then why would such a device exist?

No. France used it until 1977, I believe it was used in East Germany (DDR) up until the 1960s. However, if it's the organs you're after (and this story has been doing the rounds for decades now) a neck shot, KGB style, is far more efficient and cheaper.

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From offguardian 

https://off-guardian.org/2021/02/12/the-new-normal-requires-a-new-response/

The New Normal requires a NEW Response

Catte Black


Several people expressed support.Recently a prominent Covid-skeptic on Twitter announced their willingness to start a political party or “movement” to oppose lockdowns.

I understand the good intention behind this idea, but we at OffG consider it a major misdirection of energy – and we said so.

We got a flurry of replies from Marxists and socialists telling us people need to ‘organise’ if the New Normal is to be defeated.

Well, yes, I agree. But what does ‘organise’ mean in an age of fake ‘consensus’, rigged elections and pseudo-Left fascism?

Does it mean creating yet another ‘political party’ with rules, hierarchies and leaders?

Does it mean paying lip service to the senile, corrupt old system of representative ‘democracy’ that we KNOW is fixed and a fundamental lie?

I don’t think so.

I think the New Normal requires a New Response.

This isn’t 2003 and the anti-war protests. This isn’t 1984 and the miners’ strike. This struggle is actually potentially far more winnable. Because it isn’t about trying to force a change of action on remote beings who don’t give a damn and won’t listen. It’s about reaching ordinary people. Our friends, family, community.

What we are facing is not just a new level of tyranny, but a new kind of tyranny. One that requires more than passive obedience or inaction from people in order to preserve their status quo.

The New Normal demands people do things to positively reinforce that Normal, not simply passively consent. People are being asked to make fundamental changes to their daily lives and proactively DO things that inconvenience, impoverish or endanger them and their loved ones. They are being asked to wear masks, remain inside, refuse contact, close stores, all as individual acts of faith in the truth and reality of the narrative.

This means it’s not principally the PTB who are enforcing this narrative – it’s individual people. It’s everyone who is seen to be believing the story. It’s every man, woman and child wearing a mask or social distancing, or closing their business.

We are not merely bystanders to this event, we are required to be active participants. And that potentially gives us a lot more power. Because we can simply say no.

And if people really knew the truth they would say no – out of simple self preservation – the same instinct currently being exploited to get their co-operation.

This is why a bid to organise hierarchical resistance misses the point, and aims at the wrong target.

The fourth Industrial revolution is supposed to be in part about data – information. Those with the information will control the world.

Think about that.

If information is key to them maybe it should be to us. I think we need to see the war against the New Normal as an information war.

The Great Reset merchants are selling conformity through lies. We need to counter them with the truth. Which will, indeed, “set you free.”

We, all of us, everyone reading this, need to start sharing information as if it was ammunition.

Reblog it, print it out and distribute it. Leave it in leaflets, send it in letters or emails, tell people about it by word of mouth.

If only one person in a hundred listens to you, it’s still a step.

But the information needs to be simple and true. Here are the 4 basic facts-

  1. the ‘virus’ has a blurry definition and has a survival rate of over 99% – no more deadly than some recent flu strains
  2. the PCR tests DON’T work and are a fraud.
  3. The reported ‘deaths’ are often people dying of other things and having ‘covid’ added to their CoD based on the test that doesn’t work or on financial incentive.
  4. The vaccine is NOT a vaccine. It’s experimental gene manipulation which will need decades of testing over generations before it can really be pronounced safe.

Don’t let these basic truths be diluted with irrelevant chatter about bio weapons or ‘miracle cures’. Don’t think you can be more effective if you cut the truth with a few commonly believed lies.

Don’t be tempted to meet the lie halfway. Don’t say ‘sure the pandemic was real and the virus IS scary, but it’s all over now’.

No. Tell the truth. Tell it to at least one person you know every day, and help to set them free.

Tell people how powerful they are. That this sick farce of political/corporate narrative now more than ever needs their endorsement for it to mean anything, and if they simply decline to endorse and walk away eventually the farce will be playing to an empty theatre.

We need INFORMATIONAL organization laterally – getting info out about the ‘pandemic’, about legal rights, about how to get away from total dependence on the system.

Encourage people to form their own groups and spread this info. Organic, loose – hard to monitor and pin down, hard to infiltrate because there will be no hierarchy.

Tell people they don’t need to wait for self-appointed leaders to give them direction. They can be their own change. Starting now.

Take their slogans – ‘strength in unity’ and make it mean something in your own life.

Remember ‘they’ are weak in numbers but strong in cohesion, and they have taken our strength in numbers and used it against us – like a martial arts ninja.

They try to break us apart with internal divisions, setting black against white, male against female, “Right” against “Left”.

The old politics and its terminologies are meaningless in the fact of this latest coup against humanity. It’s not a matter of Left v Right any more. It’s a simple division between those who believe in human freedom and those who want humanity enslaved.

The only way to fight this New Normal is to create another one. Where people rediscover independence of thought and genuine collectivism of action.

With thanks to Vanessa Beeley for her input and suggestions
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1 hour ago, Outsider said:

Andrew Pollard, professor of paediatric infection and immunity, and chief investigator on the Oxford vaccine trial, said:

While most children are relatively unaffected by coronavirus and are unlikely to become unwell with the infection, it is important to establish the safety and immune response

 

Important to establish the safety, so professor Pollard is ok with using 300 children as test subjects to establish the safety. What happens if the safety is not established and they become ill? Will he just shrug his shoulders and say it was worth a try for the greater good?

Kids as lab rats. They should have kept Epstein alive. He would have brought them an endless supply. No need for volunteers. Maybe give Grisly Maxwell a ring in New York, I'm sure she could help.

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5 hours ago, alexa said:

What's this supposed to do ? Make the masses angry or what 😕

 

Illegal migrants are getting Covid jabs in plush quarantine hotels at Heathrow weeks ahead of older and more vulnerable British people... while arrivals from 'red-list' countries must pay £1,750 for LOWER class accommodation 

 

DM Head Lines today

 

 

 

Steer clear of the Daily Fail.....It's structured to explode the heads of normal people.

 

By the way Alexa.....are you familiar with this passage?

 

Jer 17:5 KJV Thus saith the LORD; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the LORD.

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2 hours ago, SimonTV said:

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The main problem with any scholar is they spend far to long in school. Infact some never leave (teachers and professors) and become so institutionalized that they are frightened of breaking free. Anyone involved in any "higher education" will have had any creativness battered out of them by the age of 25 years old. This prevents the left and right brain ever being fused and therefore any critical or creative thinking ever occuring.

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