Outsider Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, alexa said: I pray that that the power of God will be with us all 12 minutes ago, alexa said: I pray that that the power of God will be with us all If he does exist he's incredibly passive and blasé about his creation. Maybe this is all there is....maybe the covidians deep down know that. Maybe it is better to be alive than dead? Even if that life is painful, empty and souless? I don't know anymore, but perhaps they are wiser than me and realise life is terrible and will get much worse, but it's still life. Maybe I'm the stupid one not them? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 9 minutes ago, Outsider said: If he does exist he's incredibly passive and blasé about his creation. Maybe this is all there is....maybe the covidians deep down know that. Maybe it is better to be alive than dead? Even if that life is painful, empty and souless? I don't know anymore, but perhaps they are wiser than me and realise life is terrible and will get much worse, but it's still life. Maybe I'm the stupid one not them? Nothing will stop me believing in the power of God 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, alexa said: Nothing will stop me believing in the power of God Not something that can be debated about either. Each to their own. Literally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsider Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 3 minutes ago, Outsider said: If he does exist he's incredibly passive and blasé about his creation. Maybe this is all there is....maybe the covidians deep down know that. Maybe it is better to be alive than dead? Even if that life is painful, empty and souless? I don't know anymore, but perhaps they are wiser than me and realise life is terrible and will get much worse, but it's still life. Maybe I'm the stupid one not them? I think a lot of inner conflict occurs in people like us in terms that some of us fear that we may meet an untimely end, but our inner biology is willing us into live and that's beyond our control. The covidians lack that conflict because the biological will to live is dominant over the intellectual side. It's carrying them along so they don't have to think. Sorry if that doesn't make sense....but the proles in 1984 existed and seemed happy with their lot, where as the intellectual Winston ends up suffering horrendously for trying to break free. Perhaps that's a lesson? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Outsider said: Maybe this is all there is....maybe the covidians deep down know that. Maybe it is better to be alive than dead? Even if that life is painful, empty and souless? I don't agree with that having worked in palliative care with people whose minds have given out before their bodies i think i'd prefer a bullet to the brain then that. The problem is that i think as people begin that slide into mental decline they lose their cogniscence and are therefore unable to make that rational decision to check out After all if you are on a slide to mental decline, at what point do you pull the trigger? Too early and you miss out on life and too late and you lose the nous to do it But i don't believe in life at all costs. I believe in quality of life I remember reading an interview with the director francis ford coppola who had been involved in a crazy film shoot for 'apocalypse now' which had gone over budget, seen its set destroyed in a storm and its main actor suffer a heart attack. He defended some of the risks he'd taken in his life by saying that 'if you don't take any risks your life is over already' I agree with that. Life IS risk and the ultimate outcome is always the same: death. We are being wrapped up and suffocated in cotton wool by a nanny state which is keeping us in an infantalised state where we are unable to exercise our own adult judgement about things. The young should have been allowed to carry on as usual and the old and infirm should have been asked to shield if they chose to. But everyone should have the right to decide on their exposure to risk. But as we all know this isn't really about saving people from a deadly virus. this is about remoulding the economy and society as part of the davos elites 'great reset' But yeah if you hide yourself away and don't take any risks then you are dead already. Take too many risks and you can come unstuck. There is a tightrope to be walked and that is called life If it is a choice between freedom and the NHS then fuck the NHS Edited February 12, 2021 by Macnamara 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owen Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Ive had a very bad day. Went down to my folks, had a raging argument with my elderly Dad re all thats going on. I foolishly told him myself and my wife are reaching breaking point with Ireland and are thinking of leaving. Broke his heart, hes very close to my 9 yr old son. After resolving never again to discuss whats going on we went straight into it again after that. I have little faith in this country and he cant accept that. I told him its not a done deal yet but the damage is done. I feel sick about it all now, too bad I dont drink cos I would be getting hammered right now if I still drank. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsider Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, alexa said: Nothing will stop me believing in the power of God I fully respect that and believe me I envy you, I would much rather be you with belief and hope than me with nothingness! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Outsider said: I fully respect that and believe me I envy you, I would much rather be you with belief and hope than me with nothingness! even nothingness offers comfort does it not? after all in nothingness there is no more pain or discomfort so the worst case scenario is that there is no more pain or discomfort. But if you are too jealous with your life then you will never really live it Edited February 12, 2021 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsider Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 4 minutes ago, Macnamara said: I don't agree with that having worked in palliative care with people whose minds have given out before their bodies i think i'd prefer a bullet to the brain then that. The problem is that i think as people begin that slide into mental decline they lose their cogniscence and are therefore unable to make that rational decision to check out After all if you are on a slide to mental decline, at what point do you pull the trigger? Too early and you miss out on life and too late and you lose the nous to do it But i don't believe in life at all costs. I believe in quality of life I remember reading an interview with the director francis ford coppola who has been involved in a crazy film shoot for 'apocalypse now' which had gone over budget, seen its set destroyed in a storm and its main actor suffer a heart attack. He defended some of the risks he'd taken in his life by saying that 'if you don't take any risks your life is over already' I agree with that. Life IS risk and the ultimate outcome is always the same: death. We are being wrapped up and suffocated in cotton wool by a nanny state which is keeping us in an infantalised state where we are unable to exercise our own adult judgement about things. The young should have been allowed to carry on as usual and the old and infirm should have been asked to shield if they chose to. But everyone should have the right to decide on their exposure to risk. But as we all know this isn't really about saving people from a deadly virus. this is about remoulding the economy and society as part of the davos elites 'great reset' But yeah if you hide yourself away and don't take any risks then you are dead already. Take too many risks and you can come unstuck. There is a tightrope to be walked and that is called life I know you are right and I suppose I just try to see things from different angles and perspectives to try and understand it better....ultimately we are doomed on our own but if I can lock into the mindset of the majority maybe that is the only way out of this. To successfully break out of a prison a handful of people isn't going to get anywhere, but if all the inmates unified then it would be simple. The difficulty is unification! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) leaflet.mp4 It's interesting that it's the Covid one that gets torn up. (Sorry for the out of sync audio. It's like that on the original.) Edited February 12, 2021 by EnigmaticWorld 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 14 minutes ago, Outsider said: but if I can lock into the mindset of the majority why lock into a mindset of quiet desperation? why not create your own frequency and let them change for you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsider Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 20 minutes ago, Macnamara said: why lock into a mindset of quiet desperation? why not create your own frequency and let them change for you? But they are too slow, that's the problem, too slow to learn and too blind! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 28 minutes ago, Outsider said: I fully respect that and believe me I envy you, I would much rather be you with belief and hope than me with nothingness! It pains me to hear anyone who's says this, you have life. You can be like me, OK your belief may not be in God, but there must be something you believe in surely ? Ask and the door shall be opened! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsider Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 Just now, Outsider said: But they are too slow, that's the problem, too slow to learn and too blind! I do agree with what you say, I'm just floundering around trying to find solutions, any possible solution to escape this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Outsider said: But they are too slow, that's the problem, too slow to learn and too blind! well an emerging health crisis caused by the experimental mRNA covid injections can be a wake up call but the problem we have is that the government and their complicit media will spin the deaths and harm as the results of a 'mutant strain' of coronavirus and not the adverse reactions of the 'vaccine' (ie gene therapy) So we need to provide a counter to that so that the truth isn't buried Edited February 13, 2021 by Macnamara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted February 12, 2021 Share Posted February 12, 2021 1 minute ago, Outsider said: I do agree with what you say, I'm just floundering around trying to find solutions, any possible solution to escape this! you stand and push back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsider Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 2 minutes ago, alexa said: It pains me to hear anyone who's says this, you have life. You can be like me, OK your belief may not be in God, but there must be something you believe in surely ? Ask and the door shall be opened! 7 minutes ago, alexa said: It pains me to hear anyone who's says this, you have life. You can be like me, OK your belief may not be in God, but there must be something you believe in surely ? Ask and the door shall be opened! Thank you and appreciate what you have said, I do believe in art, music , poetry, literature and nature. I'm not totally nihilistic, but it feels like all those things are under attack or devalued by this Terrible Reset. The glue that keeps our culture together is being removed, and with it my belief system. The film Equilibrium is even more relevant now I suppose. Apologies if I have taken this thread off topic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryH Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Just a thought on te deagel website forecasts If the aim is to get 75%b-80% vaccinated the remaining population would fit their figures If realistically they can only get 20% - 25% vaccinated then the figures would still work It just depends on if their vaccine is a killer or a saver Going by the people i work with the vast majority feel desperate to get vaxxed So maybe they want a world of independent thinkers more than we beieve 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allymisfit Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 6 minutes ago, TerryH said: So maybe they want a world of independent thinkers more than we beieve This crossed my mind today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingwang Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) No jab, no job? Six Covid vaccination questions for HR <blah, blah, blah> Anti-vaxxers subscribing to the myriad of conspiracy theories doing the rounds are unlikely to be protected because they have to show that their beliefs are worthy of respect in a democratic society. <more blah, blah, blah> https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/no-jab-no-job-six-covid-vaccination-questions-for-hr/ Show beliefs are worthy of respect in a democratic society? Surely that's an oxymoron? As it happens I just caught a video of Screaming Lord Such performing in a musical sense. He later went on to found the Monster Raving Loony Party. Let's have a look at the policies of the Monster Raving Loony Party and keep in mind whether denying a vaccine is worthy of respect in a democratic society: Once in Government, anyone applying for 7 figure salary positions with the World Health Organisation or as Govt Health Advisors, will have to answer 15 correct questions on “WHO wants to be a Millionaire”. In Brexit Trade Deals: Germany will be required to pay for treatment of Measles, and Spain will be required to pay for cases of Spanish Flu. The French will pay for all accidents resulting from kissing & broken letters & the Dutch will split all future expenses 50/50. We will place in law measures to stop panic buying as COVID19 restrictions take hold. Shoppers will only be permitted to buy one panic per person. It is evident that the 10pm pub curfew is not working. We propose that pubs ask people to leave in alphabetical order. Shamefully Lord Sutch has never been allowed to take his place in the House of Lords. Nor were Duke Ellington, Count Basie or Lord Rockingham We will end this discrimination against musicians. To unite the population, we will surround the UK with a large cardboard box so people can be both in and/or out of the EU. This will be known as Schrodinger’s Brexit. To get more children reading, fish and chips will once again be wrapped in newspaper. Once in Government we will introduce the Ministry of Clarity. The role of this Ministry will ensure that only the clearest clarity is made clear and the unclear clarity is cleared out. We hope that our position on this is now clear to all. In Government, we will complete a 5 year Parliament in only 4 years. This policy not only ensures a 20% saving for the public purse but also gives everyone in the UK a year off from listening to our politicians. The MOT is an annual test to ensure that your car is roadworthy. We will introduce a ROT, an annual test to make sure all roads are car worthy. And from 1st January 2021, passports will be issued in the colour of political voting. Tories will be Blue, Labour will be Red, Greens will be green. Official Loonies will have leopard spots, and Lib Dem’s will be invisible. https://www.loonyparty.com/about/policy-proposals/ It would seem democracy is only democracy except when it isn't. Smirk! RIP Screaming Lord Such. Edited February 13, 2021 by wingwang 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 27 minutes ago, wingwang said: No jab, no job? Six Covid vaccination questions for HR <blah, blah, blah> Anti-vaxxers subscribing to the myriad of conspiracy theories doing the rounds are unlikely to be protected because they have to show that their beliefs are worthy of respect in a democratic society. <more blah, blah, blah> https://www.personneltoday.com/hr/no-jab-no-job-six-covid-vaccination-questions-for-hr/ Show beliefs are worthy of respect in a democratic society? Surely that's an oxymoron? To quote Amy Winehouse, what kind of fuckery is this? Just more of the "agree with us, or be cancelled" passive aggressive, no-room-for-dissent-or-independent-thought bullshit that's become a torrent lately. Anyone who thinks that opposing, independent beliefs and opinions could in any way not be worth respecting are the lowest of the low. Fuck them and their little tinpot dictator, group hive, mentality. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike hunt Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 https://fb.watch/3CVyhRKmkQ/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 18 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said: To quote Amy Winehouse, what kind of fuckery is this? Just more of the "agree with us, or be cancelled" passive aggressive, no-room-for-dissent-or-independent-thought bullshit that's become a torrent lately. Anyone who thinks that opposing, independent beliefs and opinions could in any way not be worth respecting are the lowest of the low. Fuck them and their little tinpot dictator, group hive, mentality. I don't want to get into Amy and her family's background, but I will just say that I think she would be fine with all this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Just now, EnigmaticWorld said: I don't want to get into Amy and her family's background, but I will just say that I think she would be fine with all this. I'm no fan, never was, but that lyric always comes in handy for times when you're faced with something so ludicrously inverted. But yes, not necessarily used in the way she might have used it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Just now, Anti Facts Sir said: I'm no fan, never was, but that lyric always comes in handy for times when you're faced with something so ludicrously inverted. But yes, not necessarily used in the way she might have used it! It's cool, I hear you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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