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7 hours ago, campanar said:

Sorry, but what's with the number 33, it seems to appeared on my radar only in the last week.

 

33rd degree of scottish rite freemasonry is 'ordo ab chao' or order from the chaos

 

Its how they have remoulded societies down through the ages. They create a chaotic situation out of which they then remould the situation into what they want

 

see also 'creative destruction'

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17 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

don't give up. Be a shining beacon of health to act as an example to others and as public health starts to crash because of the vaccine roll out we need to be ready to tell people that it is the injections and NOT a 'mutant strain' that is now killing and harming people

 

You still have work to do

I’m concentrating on the younger ones. Still time for them but when I hear someone with no energy telling me they can only get down the stairs to make drinks and snacks then back to bed and say “it’s the vaccine” in one  instance then say “ I will get the second because it’s protecting me” in another. I can’t make sense of it. and I know there’s nothing I can say to make a difference. 

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4 minutes ago, Liberty said:

I’m concentrating on the younger ones. Still time for them but when I hear someone with no energy telling me they can only get down the stairs to make drinks and snacks then back to bed and say “it’s the vaccine” in one  instance then say “ I will get the second because it’s protecting me” in another. I can’t make sense of it. and I know there’s nothing I can say to make a difference. 

 

As their health fails and yours perseveres the contrast will become apparent. Then hopefully we will see some pissed off people looking for some justice

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43 minutes ago, Liberty said:

Had reports back from 3 people. 1 has been very ill for 3 days in bed aches, nausea and now out and about. No2 mildly unwell not as bad as no1. The third still unwell. No energy at all, going downstairs to make a cup of tea and quick snack then back to bed again. When asking no3 if they will have their second vaccine in a state of feeling unwell they replied “yes” because it is protecting them. 
 

I give up 
 

 

Do you know which type they had? from my experience the Oxford one causes obvious flu type symptoms very quickly in a lot of people. The Pfizer one doesn't seem to have such immediate effects?

I'm curious as to how the NHS are deciding on which one they give to people, is it pure random chance or are they selecting people on basis of their medical history?

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2 hours ago, Shy Talk said:

If anyone was still in any doubt about where this is headed:

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9248813/Hunt-2million-unvaccinated-Britons-Boris-Johnson-urges-vulnerable-people-come-forward.html#comments

 

Sir Patrick Vallance warned last night that lockdown-loosening plans will have to go even slower if large numbers of vulnerable people remained unvaccinated. This would mean there is always the threat of a rapid spike in deaths and hospitalisations, he said.

 

 

 

 

Coercion is Illegal in the UK

 

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2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

As their health fails and yours perseveres the contrast will become apparent. Then hopefully we will see some pissed off people looking for some justice

Non of them we’re unhealthy before this. All very active. The third one is still unwell and that’s only from the first jab. With the second jab the body will react to it. Non of them are bad people.  They’re normalising these reactions and people are expecting this injury to themselves and accepting it. 

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4 minutes ago, Outsider said:

Do you know which type they had? from my experience the Oxford one causes obvious flu type symptoms very quickly in a lot of people. The Pfizer one doesn't seem to have such immediate effects?

I'm curious as to how the NHS are deciding on which one they give to people, is it pure random chance or are they selecting people on basis of their medical history?

The third one had AZ.  I’m suspecting the others did too because of the temp it needs to be kept in but didn’t get chance to ask. 

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1 hour ago, oneantisworthtenofyou said:

Part of an email from local authority sent to me today asking folk to help round up the old people in their area😐

 

"According to the NHS management in Kent:
"The last invites to those aged 70 and over or the "extremely clinically vulnerable"..."have been offered to everyone eligible whose contact details the NHS has".

So if you haven’t had your first dose yet or have not been contacted for an appointment this week, please make an appointment now at:

nhs.uk/covidvaccination

or by phoning 119 if you can’t use the internet.


May I request that everyone who reads this message does as I am going to do right now after posting this, and go now and carefully knock on the door of any neighbour that you know of in these groups, stand well back, and from a distance ask them if they have been vaccinated. If not, please join with other neighbours and make the arrangements for them as above.

The aim is to have everyone in these groups done by Monday."
 

 

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'The aim is to have everyone in these groups done by Monday'

 

They should use people with better command of the English language to write their emails - 'done' has unfortunate associations - you've been done or done in for example. A Freudian slip perhaps?

 

'....go now and carefully knock on the door of any neighbour that you know of in these groups, stand well back, and from a distance ask them if they have been vaccinated.'

 

A scene which makes one think of a comic sketch by Spike Milligan or John Cleese....

 

As the Pythons would say: 'This sketch is getting silly. Stop it at once.'

 

That's all it is, a silly sketch, nothing to do with 'science.'

 

Those who are not acquainted with the academic world may not realise how nasty and unpleasant it all is - largely full of back biting plotters and unpleasant climbers. Half-baked professors remain for years while the truly talented languish on the sidelines.

 

The whole system has become totally corrupted by the on-off  flow of money from government and large corporations. The pressure to conform with the official line of the moment is very strong - the penalty for not conforming can vary from death (e.g. Dr Kelly) to living in poverty in a caravan (e.g. Stan Gooch).  

 

So while it's understandable that the Covid cult scientists want to keep their nice salaries, nice houses and comfortable bank balances, their science is effectively worthless.

 

It's crap science, it's non-science.

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Liberty said:

Non of them we’re unhealthy before this. All very active. The third one is still unwell and that’s only from the first jab. With the second jab the body will react to it. Non of them are bad people.  They’re normalising these reactions and people are expecting this injury to themselves and accepting it. 

 

well at least by getting the injection and being sick in bed for days with flu like symptoms they have avoided catching the flu which would have been terrible because then they would have been in bed for a few days with flu symptoms...

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1 minute ago, Liberty said:

Non of them we’re unhealthy before this. All very active. The third one is still unwell and that’s only from the first jab. With the second jab the body will react to it. Non of them are bad people.  They’re normalising these reactions and people are expecting this injury to themselves and accepting it. 

Also do you think that a lot of people who've had Oxford first will demand the Pfizer on the second time because of the recent media fear that the Oxford isn't as effective against the bs south Africa strain? Thereby the patient actively consents to mixing the 2? 

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A mathematician called Andrew Mather has compiled a huge amount of evidence against Neil Ferguson, along with a testimony, challenging the disastrous Imperial College model which predicted 510,000 deaths from Covid-19 in the UK and 2.2 million in the US. He offers that the images can be used to support a prosecution.

 

The images covered in the video can be found here:

 

https://peerlessreads.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/CV19FNF_PF_Evidence_X1_210124a_revA1a.pdf

 

And here is the link to the testimony which includes the quote below:

 

https://peerlessreads.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/EV_Claims_FergusonExtract_210122a.pdf

 

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1 Professor Ferguson invented figures bearing no relation to real-world data on Covid-19 available at the time and bearing no relation to the parameters set out in his Imperial College Covid-19 Response Team Report 9 (ICCRT R9) which massively exaggerated the Covid 19 threat to support a policy of lockdown which when duly implemented seven days later gave rise to substantial harm to the people of this country including loss of freedom, loss of livelihood, loss of life and harm to the economy.

 

2. Professor Ferguson ignored four simple projection scenarios which would have generated reasonable figures in line with world reported contagions in particular theprimary contagions March to June based on UK cases, translation of Far East contagions in Hubei and South Korea, and a projection from his own declared parameters in ICCRT R9

 

2.1 [each outcome]

 

3. Professor Ferguson did not merely ignore but dismissed as ‘temporary suppression’ the most valuable insight into Covid-19 contagions being two completed contagions one Hubei China which was complete in cases and deaths and the second being South Korea which was complete in cases and required only the assignment of a Case Fatality Rate to generate a completed contagion estimate in deaths.

 

3.1 We regard as complete a contagion which has passed peak and has declined to a slight residual in cases or deaths as appropriate.

 

4. By ignoring practical estimates based on UKdata, foreign data and even his own parameters Professor Ferguson generated a chart bound by no parameters so that it was an artefact of pure invention.

 

5. In his choice of 510,000 deaths Professor Ferguson exaggerated the estimates obtained by the three other practical methods by over 100 times in each instance.

 

6 Professor Ferguson in misrepresenting Covid 19 by massive exaggeration committed fraud which in causing harm to the people of this nation constitutes criminal fraud.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

well at least by getting the injection and being sick in bed for days with flu like symptoms they have avoided catching the flu which would have been terrible because then they would have been in bed for a few days with flu symptoms...

The medic on UK column said the first week they’re more susceptible to infections as it lowers the immune system.  I doubt this has protected from anything. Now officially in the vulnerable category.  I’ve only spoken to three people who have had it and all three not well after with just one of them not being as unwell as the other two but feeling groggy. 
 

 

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9 minutes ago, Liberty said:

The third one had AZ.  I’m suspecting the others did too because of the temp it needs to be kept in but didn’t get chance to ask. 

Pfizer appears to be more likely given at a hospital setting, Oxford at makeshift tents, churches, town halls, car parks etc

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5 minutes ago, Outsider said:

Also do you think that a lot of people who've had Oxford first will demand the Pfizer on the second time because of the recent media fear that the Oxford isn't as effective against the bs south Africa strain? Thereby the patient actively consents to mixing the 2? 

If that’s what they’re telling them then yes. They’ll do whatever the box tells them to.  Stay home. Listen to propaganda. Be a good little slave. 

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7 minutes ago, Outsider said:

Yep, what basis do you think they use to decide which patient gets which treatment?  It surely can't be random, especially as the two vaccines operate in different ways?

At the moment I think it’s just practically / availability and temp it needs to be kept at. The card states which batch it came from. So that’s important. 
 

2 of them are in my area so probably had the same batch. The third isn’t.  
 

Im going to speak to them again tomorrow and ask them to report it. They haven’t or they would have said so. 

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10 minutes ago, Liberty said:

At the moment I think it’s just practically / availability and temp it needs to be kept at. The card states which batch it came from. So that’s important. 
 

2 of them are in my area so probably had the same batch. The third isn’t.  
 

Im going to speak to them again tomorrow and ask them to report it. They haven’t or they would have said so. 

I know of 2 people from the same household, one has had Oxford at local drs surgery, the other had to travel 12 miles to a hospital for Pfizer.

It's puzzling me.

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41 minutes ago, Liberty said:

The medic on UK column said the first week they’re more susceptible to infections as it lowers the immune system.  I doubt this has protected from anything. Now officially in the vulnerable category.  I’ve only spoken to three people who have had it and all three not well after with just one of them not being as unwell as the other two but feeling groggy.

 

yeah ok they got sick with flu symptoms from the injection but at least they didn't run the risk of getting sick with flu symptoms from the flu...

 

why get sick from the flu when you can get a short cut and get sick from a big pharma product that genetically engineers you by changing your DNA? That way you get to put lots of money into the pocket of bill gates and you become a genetically modified organism at the same time...win-win...

 

or.....is that in fact a catastrophic LOSS...

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Outsider said:

I know of 2 people from the same household, one has had Oxford at local drs surgery, the other had to travel 12 miles to a hospital for Pfizer.

It's puzzling me.

Did they have different GPs?  
 

The third one had to travel into deep Leicester and wasn’t happy about it. Not happy at all. Never mind the fact she can hardly get out of bed!! 

 

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2 minutes ago, Liberty said:

Did they have different GPs?  
 

The third one had to travel into deep Leicester and wasn’t happy about it. Not happy at all. Never mind the fact she can hardly get out of bed!! 

 

Yep different GPs, perhaps it's just because of that. I'm prone to overthinking things!

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51 minutes ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

A mathematician called Andrew Mather has compiled a huge amount of evidence against Neil Ferguson, along with a testimony, challenging the disastrous Imperial College model which predicted 510,000 deaths from Covid-19 in the UK and 2.2 million in the US. He offers that the images can be used to support a prosecution.

 

Nial Ferguson needs to face a court of law for this

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