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3 minutes ago, Velma said:

 

Prisoners are on lockdown, inside jail, which is normally only used as a punishment measure, for bad behaviour. They are banned from using all facilities, like gyms, pool tables or educational classes. Once a week they get circuit training outside, they call it Boot Camp, and it's their only exercise. They are not permitted visitors or to socialise with other prisoners. They are also being tested, regularly, several times a week and if they test positive, they are put into isolation for two weeks, that is 'solitary confinement.' No-one is getting D-Cat (parole) because they can't do the courses required to earn it and they are not allowed out into the community for rehabilitation. Solitary confinement was not a part of their original sentence, when they were convicted, many for petty drug-related crimes, trying to earn a buck in Babylon. Regardless of their crimes, their human rights are being violated, according to the Geneva Convention on humane treatment of captives.

Another fine example what people will do to those that are vilified when they know nobody cares. Nicole Kidman really nailed that concept in Dogville. It was a play too. The horrible things people can do to those they perceive vulnerable and unaffiliated.

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7 minutes ago, Velma said:

 

Prisoners are on lockdown, inside jail, which is normally only used as a punishment measure, for bad behaviour. They are banned from using all facilities, like gyms, pool tables or educational classes. Once a week they get circuit training outside, they call it Boot Camp, and it's their only exercise. They are not permitted visitors or to socialise with other prisoners. They are also being tested, regularly, several times a week and if they test positive, they are put into isolation for two weeks, that is 'solitary confinement.' No-one is getting D-Cat (parole) because they can't do the courses required to earn it and they are not allowed out into the community for rehabilitation. Solitary confinement was not a part of their original sentence, when they were convicted, many for petty drug-related crimes, trying to earn a buck in Babylon. Regardless of their crimes, their human rights are being violated, according to the Geneva Convention on humane treatment of captives.

I think prisoners are being vaccinated now. Oxford wanted them top of the list. Surprise surprise. 
 

 

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Just now, Liberty said:

I think prisoners are being vaccinated now. Oxford wanted them top of the list. Surprise surprise. 
 

 

They are being offered the vaccine. I'm sure many will decline, however, if they are offered an incentive, like early release, that could change, or worse, not be allowed to leave without it!

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5 hours ago, NG10 said:

Promised myself I wouldn't sign up here until I'd read and caught up with every post in this thread

 

Wow... that's no light task. 

Welcome back. 

 

Yes. 

Ventilators. 

I believe that they've been mentioned a little here and there. 

The Media was at one point really pushing and promoting the idea of ventilator scarcity and how important they were in fighting this Plandemic. 

Ventilators can be the cause of Pneumonia. 

V. A. P. 

https://www.bjmp.org/content/Ventilator-associated_pneumonia-overview 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Liberty said:

I think prisoners are being vaccinated now. Oxford wanted them top of the list. Surprise surprise. 
 

 

Imagine a one year sentence for a misdemenor landed someone on death row for being at the wrong place at the wrong time. Totally fk'ed up. Guys and gals entering on a victimless crime rap and has to become accessory to murder to avoid torture and death. A tiny 6 months can become life in a heartbeat

 

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2 minutes ago, Velma said:

They are being offered the vaccine. I'm sure many will decline, however, if they are offered an incentive, like early release, that could change, or worse, not be allowed to leave without it!

Some also play the system and get themselves diagnosed schizophrenic to get into a prison with more freedom. That one isn’t going to pan out well with this under the mental health act they can give it by force. A lot might be under it already. 

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This is true. During covid a great many news reports were produced by people with videophones. The quality of the written web produced materials by dissenters is very high. Further infuriating the monopolists. More so in the age of covid.

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8 minutes ago, Liberty said:

Some also play the system and get themselves diagnosed schizophrenic to get into a prison with more freedom. That one isn’t going to pan out well with this under the mental health act they can give it by force. A lot might be under it already. 

Heres a paper that was drawn up for the government last year

https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/9253/pdf/

In it they are looking at ways that vaccinations could be made compulsory.

They cite the mental health act and forced medications as a precedent for legally mandating vaccinations and getting around the human rights laws currently in place.

 

Make no mistake they are looking at ways this could be done.

They will have another go in the next autumn/winter season.

 

Our evidence takes the following form:
1. A discussion of the reasons why compulsory vaccination may need to be considered; 2. An overview of relevant legal provisions;
3. An examination of the human rights law compliance of compulsory vaccination.

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Our analysis under 3 establishes two parity arguments:
a. If Covid-19 ‘lockdown’ measures are compatible with human rights law, then it is

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arguable that compulsory vaccination is too (lockdown parity argument);
b. If compulsory medical treatment under mental health law for personal and public protection purposes is compatible with human rights law, then it is arguable that

compulsory vaccination is too (mental health parity argument).

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In theory its an appealing concept. To satisfy the requirements of a formula to get there we must address the spread of censorship. Censorship is cross platform. It follows the messages not the medium. Meaning there was a window of opportunity online at the start to really communicate fast and furiously about everything and find everything and more. All of us knew that window was closing fast. I personally felt anxious about getting as much as possible as quickly as possible. 

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2 minutes ago, Itsa said:

Heres a paper that was drawn up for the government last year

https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/9253/pdf/

In it they are looking at ways that vaccinations could be made compulsory.

They cite the mental health act and forced medications as a precedent for legally mandating vaccinations and getting around the human rights laws currently in place.

 

Make no mistake they are looking at ways this could be done.

They will have another go in the next autumn/winter season.

 

Our evidence takes the following form:
1. A discussion of the reasons why compulsory vaccination may need to be considered; 2. An overview of relevant legal provisions;
3. An examination of the human rights law compliance of compulsory vaccination.

25
Our analysis under 3 establishes two parity arguments:
a. If Covid-19 ‘lockdown’ measures are compatible with human rights law, then it is

30

arguable that compulsory vaccination is too (lockdown parity argument);
b. If compulsory medical treatment under mental health law for personal and public protection purposes is compatible with human rights law, then it is arguable that

compulsory vaccination is too (mental health parity argument).

The lockdown is designed to increase mental health issues.  I bet there are more people on meds for this than any other time. Then those medications can cause suicidal thoughts. Suicides are up.  They’ll just need doctors to diagnose conditions readily. Prison doctors will be more inclined to diagnose I think.  Cause mental issues then diagnose readily. 

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The first new strain to pop up like a bad smell, (which you can’t smell) was the “UK variant” which quickly spread throughout Europe and America, although no-one was actually going anywhere, not even to one another's homes or towns far less, countries, but I digress...

 

The UK variety was renamed the “Kent variant” from whence it came, although it is still known as the “UK variant” abroad. Are you with me? They had to give it a local name, because it was about to mutate into the “Bristol variant” which will no doubt morph into the “Belfast strain” and so on...

 

Then came the South African variant, which will probably become the Johannesburg strain and the Brazilian one will mutate into the Rio de Janeiro variant. You catch my drift? This requires more localised “surge testing” to keep abreast of the “cases” coming to a post-code near you!

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6 minutes ago, Velma said:

The first new strain to pop up like a bad smell, (which you can’t smell) was the “UK variant” which quickly spread throughout Europe and America, although no-one was actually going anywhere, not even to one another's homes or towns far less, countries, but I digress...

 

The UK variety was renamed the “Kent variant” from whence it came, although it is still known as the “UK variant” abroad. Are you with me? They had to give it a local name, because it was about to mutate into the “Bristol variant” which will no doubt morph into the “Belfast strain” and so on...

 

Then came the South African variant, which will probably become the Johannesburg strain and the Brazilian one will mutate into the Rio de Janeiro variant. You catch my drift? This requires more localised “surge testing” to keep abreast of the “cases” coming to a post-code near you!

All about confusion, keep them confused, keep them scared, keep them coming for the vaccine.

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Someone I vaguely know on FB posted this. This is how insane people have got.

 

This is not a joke....

 

Now that I'm a second vaccine graduate, do you think it's worth writing it on the CV?
Would this give me an advantage over someone who only did the first vaccine, or got vaccinated in some alternative framework?
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3 hours ago, Mr H said:

I'm also just wondering if I tried to leave the country in the near future, whether I would be allowed or not?

 

I've looked at the government guidance. Only part I can find is under the lockdown regs which says

 

You can leave if

 

  • seek medical assistance or avoid injury, illness or risk of harm (including domestic abuse)

 

so I was wondering if I could use that as an excuse ,the person(s) I'm fleeing from trying to do me harm being the government. Or whether I would have no chance under this reason? Just looking at flights, cheap as chips at the moment. 

 

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I am thinking of leaving permanently to Costa Rica with my family in next few months. I read the list of 15 reasons Irish govt have for leaving country, noticed the bastards dont have emigrating up as a reason. Not saying I wont try

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Just now, owen said:

I am thinking of leaving permanently to Costa Rica with my family in next few months. I read the list of 15 reasons Irish govt have for leaving country, noticed the bastards dont have emigrating up as a reason. Not saying I wont try

I was in Costa Rica end of 2019, great choice! 

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3 hours ago, Mr H said:

I'm also just wondering if I tried to leave the country in the near future, whether I would be allowed or not?

 

I've looked at the government guidance. Only part I can find is under the lockdown regs which says

 

You can leave if

 

  • seek medical assistance or avoid injury, illness or risk of harm (including domestic abuse)

 

so I was wondering if I could use that as an excuse ,the person(s) I'm fleeing from trying to do me harm being the government. Or whether I would have no chance under this reason? Just looking at flights, cheap as chips at the moment. 

I think you have mental health on your side here! 

It's taking it's toll, especially living in the UK. I'd say that was a valid enough reason to leave and goes with their script :)

 

My cousin moved to Dubai last week and no one questioned her the entire journey. 

Not even proof of her Coshit test.

She and a few others got there no problem, even though she expected the worst and got herself very upset prior to her journey. She said it's all being majorly milked here.

 

 

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