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1 hour ago, belltowerblues said:

It's world wide for a start. Sweden isn't extreme, but still counts covid deaths. Belarus, Tanzania... any other doubters?

 

I don't think you'd get enough people in the health services buying into it if it was totally faked. They're not stupid. Although massively closing down the hospitals would provide a good cover. It could be "compartmentalised" like defence projects are.

 

Also went to a crematorium June last year and the chap working there said that cremations had peaked at 120 a week in April then suddenly dropped of cliff. 

 

1 hour ago, Basket Case said:

 

And so is the reach of the WORLD Health Organization. 

Who (no pun intended) do you think is dictating to all the different countries Health Services ? 

You need to have a better look around the forum. 

Event 201.

The Great Reset. 

The World Economic Forum.. 

Etc etc.. 

Read. Read. And when you think you've read enough, then read some more. 

It's all here on this very forum. 

BC 

 

1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

bare in mind there are two other factors to consider. Firstly there is the fact that the lockdowns are killing people. This was even told to the government by Edge who advise the NHS

 

Then there is the harm caused by the flu vaccine roll out that causes 'molecular mimicry'. I believe that those symptoms will then be wrapped up by the government under the title of 'covid 19' which is now a catch all phrase for almost any symptoms going

 

In the same way the victims who die or suffer adverse reactions from the covid injections will be said to have the 'mutant variant'

 

58 minutes ago, belltowerblues said:

I've read the lot thanks. Here and elsewhere, including official stats etc

Sorry, real virus that's more deadly to 80+ than the flu, dumbed down populations spoon MSM headlines and unable or unwilling to look at the real data, which is published but in a way the dumbed down won't find it, hijacked to make money for whoever. Or whatever else they want. 

 

56 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

they pulled off the 2008 banking crisis and the theft of the public purse to reliquidify the zombie banks through the 'bail outs'

 

they pulled off the war in iraq when there were no WMD's and even murdered Dr kelly to achieve it

 

they pulled off the gulf of tonkin incident to start the vietnam war

 

they pulled off telling people smoking was safe

 

they pulled off putting toxic fluoride in the drinking water supply

 

they pulled off 911

 

they pulled off making 1 in 50 kids autistic without any backlash from the public

 

they can pull it off for as long as people don't pay attention....easy-peasy

 

53 minutes ago, Velma said:

 

The only evidence of any “pandemic” is in the media. Period. Go to a local hospital and see if it is overwhelmed with sick and dying patients. Oh wait, you can’t, it’s out-of-bounds. Visit a care home and ask if their fatalities have sky-rocketed, ah.. no visitors allowed. Go to a crematorium and see if they are inundated with corpses, no wait, that’s against the regulations. Listen to the whistle-blowers, oh dear, you can’t because they have been silenced as fake news. Top scientists who dispute the narrative are accused of “disinformation” and businesses who don’t comply are shut down, for being “superspreaders and “endangering the public.” Everyone else who questions the statistics or science is called a “conspiracy theorists” or some other derogatory term. And since the majority of people still believe “the news” and that our governments care about us, they are brainwashed into swallowing the whole charade. People have been gagged, literally. Which makes it entirely possible to sell this shit-show scenario to a world-wide audience.

 

 

 

51 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

Would you like to explain the differences between Flu and Con19? 

Would you like to explain how Flu has almost disappeared? 

Would you like to explain how Pneumonia has almost disappeared? 

Would you like to explain how deaths from Heart problems have almost disappeared? 

Would you like to explain how the overall death figures are not anomalous? 

.... if there is actually a virus,where is your evidence? 

BC 

 

 

46 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

one other factor to consider which is the roll out of 5G

 

So in the US we have senator blumenthal asking industry people if any safety studies have been carried out into the effects of 5G microwaves on humans and the industry people have to admit they have not

 

We then have the regulators saying that they are going to rush out 5G without doing safety checks so clearly there is a massive risk here which is why some scientists have written to the UN for a moratorium on the roll out of 5G until safety research has been carried out

 

Consider that a virus that has not been isolated and proven to exist with an ever expanding list of symptoms that it supposedly causes could be the perfect cover for the damage caused by microwave radiation as 5G is rolled out

 

Joe Bloggs becomes sick living next to a 5G substation and dies. The authorities just list his death as 'covid' and no one looks any deeper into the issue of the harmful effects of microwaves

 

Wuhan was actually the test bed for full roll out of 5G coverage in china and then just happened to be the epicentre of the pandemic. Bit of a coincidence dontcha think? Who had even heard of wuhan before that?

 

38 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

everything is now 'covid'

 

any death they can get away with reporting as 'covid' they will report as covid even if it is flu or pneumonia or heart disease etc

 

with an ever expanding list of covid symptoms more and more conditions can be re-labelled 'covid'

 

They did the same thing with polio which they re-labelled 'acute flaccid myelitis' so that they could claim that they had eradicated polio when in fact kids were still getting paralysed

 

26 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

Would you like to back up a little and respond to the responses given to you by Macnamara and myself to your earlier post about the virus being real.. 

Thanks 

 

 

21 minutes ago, mike hunt said:

 

 

19 minutes ago, Basket Case said:

 

 

16 minutes ago, mike hunt said:

 

 

There you go @belltowerblues

I've made it nice and easy for you. 

Isn't that nice of me  :0)

 

(edited to remove my confusion and mistaken use of Mi'Kunts comments) 

 

Over to you @belltowerblues 

BC 

 

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5 minutes ago, mike hunt said:

I am not belttowerblues. 

 

So we all agree! :-)

 

LOL 😂 

 

Yep. You're totally correct. 

I'll have to redo that  🙄 

 

I wonder why I thought of you when I was trying to respond to Belltowerblues  🤔 

You're not related, no ? 

 

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Just now, Basket Case said:

 

LOL 😂 

 

Yep. You're totally correct. 

I'll have to redo that  🙄 

 

I wonder why I thought of you when I was trying to respond to Belltowerblues  🤔 

You're not related, no ? 

 

 

If you cycle their PCR's high enough, they'll share a positive Covid test... along with half the objects in the universe.

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36 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

they pulled off the 2008 banking crisis and the theft of the public purse to reliquidify the zombie banks through the 'bail outs'

 

they pulled off the war in iraq when there were no WMD's and even murdered Dr kelly to achieve it

 

they pulled off the gulf of tonkin incident to start the vietnam war

 

they pulled off telling people smoking was safe

 

they pulled off putting toxic fluoride in the drinking water supply

 

they pulled off 911

 

they pulled off making 1 in 50 kids autistic without any backlash from the public

 

they can pull it off for as long as people don't pay attention....easy-peasy

Iraq, they didn't "pull it off", plenty of people knew they were lying, and many of the general public didn't buy into it. Plenty of protests etc. They just went ahead knowing that we knew they were lying. Dr Kelly was made an example of to keep others in the defence realm quiet. And Robin Cook, perhaps.

 

911 was just 3 planes. Not so hard for the CIA/FBI/NIA or whatever.

 

tonkin - one incident? far side of the world, no one really cared about unless they were local or hard core anti-commie or a war monger.

 

smoking - the big baddie, but eventually found out

 

2008 - At least Brown was given the boot, but replaced by Cameroon/Clegg, who were just as bad :-(

 

fluroide - save your teeff, innit? Prefer water to be pure thanks.

 

Autisim - don't know enough too say. looks bad though.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, belltowerblues said:

Iraq, they didn't "pull it off", plenty of people knew they were lying, and many of the general public didn't buy into it. Plenty of protests etc. They just went ahead knowing that we knew they were lying. Dr Kelly was made an example of to keep others in the defence realm quiet. And Robin Cook, perhaps.

 

911 was just 3 planes. Not so hard for the CIA/FBI/NIA or whatever.

 

tonkin - one incident? far side of the world, no one really cared about unless they were local or hard core anti-commie or a war monger.

 

smoking - the big baddie, but eventually found out

 

2008 - At least Brown was given the boot, but replaced by Cameroon/Clegg, who were just as bad :-(

 

fluroide - save your teeff, innit? Prefer water to be pure thanks.

 

Autisim - don't know enough too say. looks bad though.

 

 

 

All those things did actually happen despite public opinion. 

So they did absolutely 'pull it off'. 

 

Just like they're trying to 'pull off' this Con19 hoax.. 

 

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4 minutes ago, belltowerblues said:

Iraq, they didn't "pull it off", plenty of people knew they were lying, and many of the general public didn't buy into it. Plenty of protests etc. They just went ahead knowing that we knew they were lying. Dr Kelly was made an example of to keep others in the defence realm quiet. And Robin Cook, perhaps.

 

911 was just 3 planes. Not so hard for the CIA/FBI/NIA or whatever.

 

tonkin - one incident? far side of the world, no one really cared about unless they were local or hard core anti-commie or a war monger.

 

smoking - the big baddie, but eventually found out

 

2008 - At least Brown was given the boot, but replaced by Cameroon/Clegg, who were just as bad :-(

 

fluroide - save your teeff, innit? Prefer water to be pure thanks.

 

Autisim - don't know enough too say. looks bad though.

 

Q-so how many people went to jail?

 

A-none ie they pulled it off

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7 minutes ago, belltowerblues said:

Iraq, they didn't "pull it off", plenty of people knew they were lying, and many of the general public didn't buy into it. Plenty of protests etc. They just went ahead knowing that we knew they were lying. Dr Kelly was made an example of to keep others in the defence realm quiet. And Robin Cook, perhaps.

 

911 was just 3 planes. Not so hard for the CIA/FBI/NIA or whatever.

 

tonkin - one incident? far side of the world, no one really cared about unless they were local or hard core anti-commie or a war monger.

 

smoking - the big baddie, but eventually found out

 

2008 - At least Brown was given the boot, but replaced by Cameroon/Clegg, who were just as bad :-(

 

fluroide - save your teeff, innit? Prefer water to be pure thanks.

 

Autisim - don't know enough too say. looks bad though.

 

 

 

We going off topic now a bit. 

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13 minutes ago, SimonTV said:

We going off topic now a bit. 

 

I think we are providing the wider context within which the covid conspiracy can be seen and understood

 

if some people can't wrap their heads around a conspiracy of this scale they need only consider that this one is simply the culmination of a series of ever growing conspiracies that are themselves just stages in a deeper process

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Just now, Macnamara said:

 

I think we are providing the wider context within which the covid conspiracy can be seen and understood

 

if some people can't wrap their heads around a conspiracy of this scale they need only consider that this one is simply the culmination of a series of ever grwoign conspiracies that are themselves just stages in a deeper process

 

Icke's book, The Trigger. Epic. Connects many dots.

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9 minutes ago, belltowerblues said:

Iraq, they didn't "pull it off", plenty of people knew they were lying, and many of the general public didn't buy into it. Plenty of protests etc. They just went ahead knowing that we knew they were lying. Dr Kelly was made an example of to keep others in the defence realm quiet. And Robin Cook, perhaps.

 

911 was just 3 planes. Not so hard for the CIA/FBI/NIA or whatever.

 

tonkin - one incident? far side of the world, no one really cared about unless they were local or hard core anti-commie or a war monger.

 

smoking - the big baddie, but eventually found out

 

2008 - At least Brown was given the boot, but replaced by Cameroon/Clegg, who were just as bad :-(

 

fluroide - save your teeff, innit? Prefer water to be pure thanks.

 

Autisim - don't know enough too say. looks bad though.

 

 

911 was without doubt the single biggest piece of propaganda in human history, it changed the majority of people's mindsets to allow covid 19 to be successfully implemented.

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3 minutes ago, Outsider said:

911 was without doubt the single biggest piece of propaganda in human history, it changed the majority of people's mindsets to allow covid 19 to be successfully implemented.

 

Watch David Icke's lectures when he talks about 9/11 official story. Some of the funniest shit you'll ever see on the subject. The official story is so ridiculous.

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5 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

Icke's book, The Trigger. Epic. Connects many dots.

Since 911 the mind control has gone into overdrive....when you are living day to day it's difficult to perceive. But now looking back at the events of the last 20 years, they seem like bricks being laid in the construction of our current prison. 

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