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4 hours ago, pete675 said:

Also note that one of the deepest truths of esoteric philosophy is that the earth is a prison planet already with a pre-existing 'control grid'. Isolated from the rest of the real universe and to use C.S. Lewis's phrase - 'under the domination of the black archon'. 

 

Due to the rise in human consciousness, has the original 'control grid' begun to break down, making a new one necessary?

 

hunter gatherers weren't under the control of the cabal

 

as society started to become more organised in pockets the vast majority of humanity was still not under their direct control

 

All globalistion is, is the expansion of the cabals control to absorb more and more pockets of humanity into enslavement under the cabal

 

The technocratic control grid is simply the cabal employing their cutting edge technology to achieve what they have always been working towards: total control over every man, woman and child on the planet

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6 hours ago, Orange Alert said:

 Even if one has complete blind faith in the vaccine, you have to also ignore the tyrannical conduct and the severe damage done by all those involved.

 

they're NOT good people!

 

Bill gates is not a kind hearted philanthropist, he is a stone cold psychopath hellbent on population reduction and control

 

he's not motivated by a desire to make peoples lives better, he is motivated by a desire to cull them

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6 hours ago, Clare Wise said:

stay safe. x

 

I hope you also stay safe from this deadly COVID we are constantly told about, when you pop outside, by wearing a full hazmat suit with a compressed air supply, not to mention undertaking a decontamination shower before going back indoors, or do just you wear a 50p mask made in a Chinese sweatshop? 

 

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6 hours ago, Clare Wise said:

I'm not an immunologist Mac, I'm a wildlife photographer and an astronomer.  I really don't know enough about the t-cell and other immunity factors at work here. 

 

What is being found with people who get vaccinated for example for measles is that later on when they donate blood and the blood is analysed the antibodies have gone

 

So the first thing is that the antibodies don't last. This means that unlike actually contracting a disease where your body builds lifelong immunity a vaccine does not provide lifelong immunity

 

T cells are being found to be more effective than antibodies.

 

6 hours ago, Clare Wise said:

All I know from my own travels (into jungles, out into deserts, savannah plains and sometimes shit-filled cities full of humans and their trash (the most dangerous places of all by far), my body's own immune system has coped.  As for vaxes I've had typhoid (thank god, as I had a reaction to that and was ill for a couple of days with the 'disease') but when faced with it out in the field I remained immune.  It swept though the area, infecting loads of people, i would have died, I'm sure of that. 

 

so you were eating or drinking the food or water contaminated with the feces of an infected person but didn't get infected?

 

6 hours ago, Clare Wise said:

I've had diptheria and cholera vaxes (similar risks out in the wild, killers - could floor me!), heps a/b.  Yellow fever (not sure about the effectiveness of that vax but the illness is a f....ker!  Polio, Mumps, Measels and Rubella (separately in the early 70s, wouldn't chance them with a child all at the same time MMR, I think separately is safer, less trauma for the child, say a month apart at least (no expert though).  All tried and tested more or less.

 

well they are tested to see if they produce antibodies but they are not tested to see what other damage they cause the problem. So for example if you are injected to ward off polio and instead you develop Guillain–Barré syndrome that then affects you for the rest of your life, then was the medical intervention a success?

 

Lets say you vaccinate your child against mumps and they develop asthma as an autoimmune response the vaccine or they develop ear infections or they become autistic, was that then a successful medical intervention?

 

The vaccine companies won't care though because they aren't looking for that. They are only looking for whether or not their vaccine created antibodies.

 

So if you had a sore hand because you had burned it in a fire and i then chopped your hand off to remove the source of the pain would that be a successful medical intervention?

 

6 hours ago, Clare Wise said:

New zoonotics are very different kettles of virus! C19 is a nasty especially if a person is weak, has underlying conditions, is very old (although fit oldsters I know have had it and are now well). worst of all, post surgery with a person's immune system under post operative strain, probably a killer, especially with transplant surgery. (No expert though).

 

Its been found that the flu vaccine causes 'immune enhancement' and studies have shown those that have had the injection develop more or certain health problems than those that don't. There have been large roll outs of flu vaccines in the areas that have been hard hit by 'covid' symptoms especially among the elderly so how sure are we that the symptoms being termed 'covid' aren't actually caused by the flu vaccine?

 

As this year has now seen the biggest roll out of flu vaccine ever, can we expect a resultant wave of health problems? I would say YES and will those problems then be rolled up under the label of 'covid' and blamed on that? You can bet your ass they will

 

6 hours ago, Clare Wise said:

Vax or not to vax, that is the question many now face.  My (non professional opinion):   The dangers of the viral vector vaxes should be minimal this is fairly trusted technology. The virus is disabled /you won't catch that and the pathogen eg c19, injected into you, won't replicate itself.  These vaxes do not change a person's DNA, they don't get anywhere near breaching the cell's nucleus. worst outcome, they don't work at all. Hence the 60/70 percent protection, better than nothing I guess. Oxford Zeneca, not a bad bet.  I will have  this if it is mandatory for a vax passport to travel abroad c. 2022.  We had to cancel a trip to Sri Lanka's wildlife parks 3 times so far'.  Providing that by this time next year (now booked for October 2022) no people have had significant bad reactions of died from the Oxford type.   As for the mRNA, nope, too risky, you don't try to kill a mouse with a machine gun, risks (to me, others must make up their own minds) of gun, way worse than risk of (c19 variant) mouse!  Sorry I can't explain the t4 cell aspects, not a clue. Thank you for your interest and support.  Appreciated, stay safe. x

 

Research into mRNA has been carried out in the past and when the test subjects came into contact with the wild virus they died. That is the danger that the scientist who worked in that technique for sars cov 1 Dr Hotez has warned about in a public testimony. It has also been raised by Dr Yeadon who was the chief scientist at pfizer

 

But these voices are not being allowed a platform in the corporate media who have been bought off by bill gates

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15 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

My mother lived to be 90 and her diet was packed with eggs, bacon, sausages, belly pork, breast of lamb, cold meats, beef and plenty of sweets and ice cream.....hated vegetables and cereals........Smoked until she was 65 and drank beer and wine.

 

heart problems actually INCREASED when people switched from butter to margerine

 

they switched because corporate adverts in the television convinced them that margerine was a healthier alternative and many people still believe that

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Hmmm so going for my daily walk today. Went past the vaccine center. Usually no one in there. Today it was rammed packed. Saw one poor old bugger not really with it, being escorted out after getting his jab, didn't look like he knew what was going on. Reminded me of my dad in his last days. This poor sod could well be dead by next week. Very upsetting...

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4 hours ago, SimonTV said:

 

I send them videos and I didn't think they were watching, so I would ask them a question about it and easily find out they didn't watch it. If they don't want to watch it, then there is no chance they are ever going to change their mind on the topic. My sister is like a professional feminist and believes everything the government/media says and even supports Biden and AOC. Trying to explain to her the dangers of vaccines is like speaking to a brick wall. She loves to go on these rants about how I am not considering all the information and only listening to one side. I accused her of projecting and then she always falls back on to anecdotal evidence. She said statistics are not facts and that anecdotal evidence is the most superior type of evidence. Impossible to speak to someone like that but I try. 

My family will listen and did seem to be responding over last year. Id send videos on the Whatsapp making the point i wasnt expecting or needing a reply. It was a way to put the other side across after the latest crap the govt were coming out with, without interrupting the happy clappy bull shit people usually send.

       It mayve been you who asked the question earlier are people increasingly finding it harder to wake people up. Well its just like theyve forgotten everything we talked about and worse still are adopting a kind placating tolerance towards me which is fucking annoying. I have pretty much given up, will not volunteer anything.

      I think its not just the constant repetition in the media, its things like the Uk Eu argument about vaccine supplies (must admit havent really followed it) or Israel being criticised for not supplying them to Palestinians that make the lazy mind think they must be desirable. 

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2 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

You look at his wifes family background too.

 

Beckham's great-great-great-grandfather was German artist and revolutionary Carl Heinrich Pfänder [de] and great-great granduncle was Minnesota politician William Pfaender.[12][13]

 

In London in 1845 Pfänder took part in meetings of the German Workers' Education Association and was soon a member of the League of the Just , to whose leadership committee he belonged in 1847 when Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels joined the union and promoted the transformation to the League of Communists . From April 1848 Pfänder headed the London Communist League together with Heinrich Bauer and Johann Georg Eccarius , and in August of the same year he and Bauer also became a trustee of the workers' education association.

 

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&u=https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Heinrich_Pf%C3%A4nder

 

 

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Between them they have half a billion networth, like they couldnt afford to double what Moore raised, but no they will just whore themselves as usual for propaganda.

The NHS cult is a joke anyway & directly complicit in the genocide of thousands of old people, not to mention ventilators that killed or permanently destroyed lungs (all blame on Convid) & now blatantly killing old people off in care homes, whilst the media is silent.

 

Tom Moores daughter Hannah is well cagey also, Maytrix marketing firm.

 

Once again you must care about the hero big brother presents for you.

Whilst thousands have been trapped for months, not able to see their families DISGUSTING FAKE SHITHOLE SOCIETY!

 

North Korea on steroids..

 

They even have fake new years eve fireworks with Tom & his Zimmer.🤦‍♂️

 

 

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1 minute ago, oddsnsods said:

Between them they have half a billion networth, like they couldnt afford to double what Moore raised, but no they will just whore themselves as usual for propaganda.

The NHS cult is a joke anyway & directly complicit in the genocide of thousands of old people, not to mention ventilators that killed or permanently destroyed lungs (all blame on Convid) & now blatantly killing old people off in care homes, whilst the media is silent.

 

Tom Moores daughter Hannah is well cagey also, Maytrix marketing firm.

 

Once again you must care about the hero big brother presents for you.

Whilst thousands have been trapped for months, not able to see their families DISGUSTING FAKE SHITHOLE SOCIETY!

 

North Korea on steroids..

 

100% agree. Fucking disgrace.

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Smells like team spirit   Clare did post a good video on ADE disease enhancement after vaccine.  The posts are very busy but what she DID and not SAID is post something good.  Benefit of any doubt to Clare. 
 

 

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27 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

Well, there had to be something to explain the bizarre rise and rise of the Beckham brand, on the back of some flimsy footballing credentials. Loads of players kick a ball as well as he did. Plenty made 100 appearances for England. Knew it had to be more.

 

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Looking more handsome than James Bond probably also had something to do with it. Lucky bastard.

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49 minutes ago, Mr H said:

Hmmm so going for my daily walk today. Went past the vaccine center. Usually no one in there. Today it was rammed packed. Saw one poor old bugger not really with it, being escorted out after getting his jab, didn't look like he knew what was going on. Reminded me of my dad in his last days. This poor sod could well be dead by next week. Very upsetting...

 

Poor bastard. But even more concerning are the children and pregnant women. What will be the long term effects? Soft kill bio-weapons for the young; and hard kill for the old.

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3 minutes ago, DarianF said:

 

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Looking more handsome than James Bond probably also had something to do with it. Lucky bastard.

 

 

 

A great dress sense (as seen below) and being an all round cabal gimp has helped lots as well though. I'm waiting for the photo of him going shopping holding Elton's hand with 2 masks on his face!

 

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2 minutes ago, Brad the lad said:

 

 

 

A great dress sense (as seen below) and being an all round cabal gimp has helped lots as well though. I'm waiting for the photo of him going shopping holding Elton's hand with 2 masks on his face!

 

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Under the mask he's laughing his arse off, thinking of all the suckers out there who will buy more scent because of his Covid virtue signalling. Meanwhile, a special safe saline solution of the vaccine will be given to him and his family while everyone else is getting mRNA raped.

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5 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

Why is it always women? And this type of woman....what possesses them to fuck with nature and go against everything that the female of the species should stand for.

 

Who knows. But Bill is probably onto something...

 

 

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“I’ve been to Wuhan to look for the origin in animals and failed to find [the same virus],” Gao said, referring to the central Chinese city where the coronavirus was first detected. “It may take a long time to find the virus. It’s also possible that the virus will disappear before we find the origin.”

https://www.asiaone.com/china/we-can-t-rule-out-risks-covid-19-mrna-vaccines-top-chinese-health-official-says

 

😂😂 You couldn't make this stuff up.

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