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4 hours ago, alexa said:

 

Soon it'll be passport vaccine's for everything:classic_angry:

I can just imagine, the refugees coming on their boats, and us folks waiting at the shores, using their boats for the return trip for the great escape! lolz

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45 minutes ago, zarkov said:

From the UK column news broadcast just now.

Irans response to the vaccines being pushed far and wide

 

 

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Sums up the situation we all face with regard to the untested and unregulated so called "vaccines"

The legal indemnity Pharma have attained effectively gives them a licence to kill.

 

That was one of the best UK Column's I've ever seen. 

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6 minutes ago, Mr H said:

I can just imagine, the refugees coming on their boats, and us folks waiting at the shores, using their boats for the return trip for the great escape! lolz

Not a bad idea at all Mr H! I do like this idea!

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5 minutes ago, allymisfit said:

Not a bad idea at all Mr H! I do like this idea!

Can transfer your assets to the blockchain prior so they can't trace or try and tax you, hop on the boat, arrivederci facist Britain! Won't know where you are!

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3 hours ago, Ziggy Sawdust said:

This an excellent short video that you can send to friends and family who actually believe there's a pandemic.

The guy keeps it simple and even the thickest out there will have difficulty denying what he says.

 

25 Questions to help wake up family and friends (Excellent video from Spacebusters) (bitchute.com)

Thanks - will watch it later when every loud gob in the house is asleep.

 

Simple is good.

 

I find that people will accept complicated science bullshit if it suits their view - even if they don't have a clue what any of it means. Likewise, they will reject scientific truth because it is both too complicated as well as not suiting their view.

 

We really do need to speak to people in a language they can understand. We leave them without the excuse of something being too complex.

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42 minutes ago, Mr H said:

That was one of the best UK Column's I've ever seen. 

I take the same view.

In fact I would extend it to all the content I have seen from them over the last year.

That their content derives from government approved primary sources ingratiates them further still.

 

Just perusing the psychological attack on Britain presentation they mentioned the 1st video had reached 100K views but I can see that YouTube is up to its usual tricks and only showing 42,570 views.

 

I would imagine they will be booted from youtube soon as the censorship tightens this year.

 

Nevertheless they are hitting milestones and that is encouraging in a big way.

 

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This paper says sars cov 2 which is a chimeric (multi organism) RNA existed in 2008 as a wild type. Created in the lab produced in E-Coli and is a mix of hep c and sars. Whether this has already been released or not is another question but according to this it existed in 2008 
 

L OF CLINICAL MICROBIOLOGY, May 2008, p. 1734–1740 Vol. 46, No. 5 0095-1137/08/$08.00􏰀0 doi:10.1128/JCM.02248-07
Copyright © 2008, American Society for Microbiology. All Rights Reserved.
RNase-Resistant Virus-Like Particles Containing Long Chimeric RNA Sequences Produced by Two-Plasmid Coexpression System􏰉
Yuxiang Wei,1,2† Changmei Yang,1,2† Baojun Wei,1,2 Jie Huang,1,2 Lunan Wang,2 Shuang Meng,2 Rui Zhang,2 and Jinming Li1,2*
Graduate School, Peking Union Medical College, Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences, Beijing, People’s Republic of China,1 and Department of Immunoassay and Molecular Diagnosis, National Center for Clinical Laboratory, Beijing Hospital, Beijing, People’s Republic of China2
Received 20 November 2007/Returned for modification 28 December 2007/Accepted 16 February 2008
RNase-resistant, noninfectious virus-like particles containing exogenous RNA sequences (armored RNA) are good candidates as RNA controls and standards in RNA virus detection. However, the length of RNA packaged in the virus-like particles with high efficiency is usually less than 500 bases. In this study, we describe a method for producing armored L-RNA. Armored L-RNA is a complex of MS2 bacteriophage coat protein and RNA produced in Escherichia coli by the induction of a two-plasmid coexpression system in which the coat protein and maturase are expressed from one plasmid and the target RNA sequence with modified MS2 stem-loop (pac site) is transcribed from another plasmid. A 3V armored L-RNA of 2,248 bases containing six gene fragments— hepatitis C virus, severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV1, SARS-CoV2, and SARS-CoV3), avian influenza virus matrix gene (M300), and H5N1 avian influenza virus (HA300)—was successfully ex- pressed by the two-plasmid coexpression system and was demonstrated to have all of the characteristics of armored RNA. We evaluated the 3V armored L-RNA as a calibrator for multiple virus assays. We used the WHO International Standard for HCV RNA (NIBSC 96/790) to calibrate the chimeric armored L-RNA, which was diluted by 10-fold serial dilutions to obtain samples containing 106 to 102 copies. In conclusion, the approach we used for armored L-RNA preparation is practical and could reduce the labor and cost of quality control in multiplex RNA virus assays. Furthermore, we can assign the chimeric armored RNA with an international unit for quantitative detection.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2395109/pdf/2248-07.pdf

 


 

 

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2 hours ago, pete675 said:

All I've read about the virus, sorry vaccine, suggests that the vaccine is either actively harmful or - in the most benign outcomes - completely useless.


Reminds me of the joke about elephant repellent:


Gardener says to his customer: 'To be on the safe side, I've sprayed your garden with elephant repellent too'


Customer: ' But there aren't any elephants round here.'


Gardener:'That shows how good it is'


Knowing how twisted big pharma/government are, it would not surprise me in the least if the vaccine rollout was in fact a giant clinical trial - some get the vaccine, some get a placebo.


The % of vaccine to placebo probably varies with the target group, 50-50 vaccine-placebo for some 90 -10 vaccine-placebo for others. Those selected for special treatment would be more likely to receive vaccine.

 

In the long and mucus-filled history of ‘the cold’ no-one has every produced an effective remedy, until now. In less than a year, half-a-dozen vaccines have been developed, one after another... for a disease which you formerly let run its course and your immune system would eventually combat the infection, because that’s what it’s for. Moderna, Pfizer, AstraZeneca, Sputnik V, CoronaVac, Novavax and Janssen’s COVID-19 vaccine are all being promoted for their percentage of efficacy, although they don’t stop you from catching or transmitting the illness. One jab is not enough though, two are required and probably every six months! So, the wise men at SAGE want to mix n’ match the vaxx, never mind the inevitable contraindications from combined concoctions! It can only end badly and anyone who thinks this could possibly be “good for you” needs their head examined, by our mental health ambassador, Doctor Alex from Love Island.

 

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2 hours ago, Basket Case said:

 

Can you give us a link for this please? 

Thanks 

:0)

 

FAct Checked!! 😁

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A former Pfizer employee speculated that a COVID-19 vaccine could cause infertility, but experts say there’s no evidence that this is true. 

 

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/dec/10/blog-posting/no-pfizers-head-research-didnt-say-covid-19-vaccin/

 

well of course if you don't explore, there is no evidence. lol

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On 2/4/2021 at 11:27 AM, Liberty said:

Another new level of stupid! That fucking virus has been jumping through walls. We’re fucked. Even a cement mask won’t save us 

 

 

At this point in this ridiculous game, you might as well say I am waiting for my turn and if anybody argues with you say that you have a freedom of choice. Since euthanasia is still banned and you haven't got the fund to fly to Switzerland or they won't let you fly without the vaccine (catch 22) so tell them to f-off. Can they argue with your wish? And if they have mask on or say they have been vaxxed, remind them that they are safe and question if their logic is sane. If they turn around that mask dosen't protect 100% (whch is true) then suggest that they wear 6 masks. lol

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37 minutes ago, Liberty said:

This paper says sars cov 2 which is a chimeric (multi organism) RNA existed in 2008 as a wild type. Created in the lab produced in E-Coli and is a mix of hep c and sars. Whether this has already been released or not is another question but according to this it existed in 2008 
 

L OF CLINICAL MICROBIOLOGY, May 2008, p. 1734–1740 Vol. 46, No. 5 0095-1137/08/$08.00􏰀0 doi:10.1128/JCM.02248-07
Copyright © 2008, American Society for Microbiology. All Rights Reserved.
RNase-Resistant Virus-Like Particles Containing Long Chimeric RNA Sequences Produced by Two-Plasmid Coexpression System􏰉
Yuxiang Wei,1,2† Changmei Yang,1,2† Baojun Wei,1,2 Jie Huang,1,2 Lunan Wang,2 Shuang Meng,2 Rui Zhang,2 and Jinming Li1,2*
Graduate School, Peking Union Medical College, Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences, Beijing, People’s Republic of China,1 and Department of Immunoassay and Molecular Diagnosis, National Center for Clinical Laboratory, Beijing Hospital, Beijing, People’s Republic of China2
Received 20 November 2007/Returned for modification 28 December 2007/Accepted 16 February 2008
RNase-resistant, noninfectious virus-like particles containing exogenous RNA sequences (armored RNA) are good candidates as RNA controls and standards in RNA virus detection. However, the length of RNA packaged in the virus-like particles with high efficiency is usually less than 500 bases. In this study, we describe a method for producing armored L-RNA. Armored L-RNA is a complex of MS2 bacteriophage coat protein and RNA produced in Escherichia coli by the induction of a two-plasmid coexpression system in which the coat protein and maturase are expressed from one plasmid and the target RNA sequence with modified MS2 stem-loop (pac site) is transcribed from another plasmid. A 3V armored L-RNA of 2,248 bases containing six gene fragments— hepatitis C virus, severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus (SARS-CoV1, SARS-CoV2, and SARS-CoV3), avian influenza virus matrix gene (M300), and H5N1 avian influenza virus (HA300)—was successfully ex- pressed by the two-plasmid coexpression system and was demonstrated to have all of the characteristics of armored RNA. We evaluated the 3V armored L-RNA as a calibrator for multiple virus assays. We used the WHO International Standard for HCV RNA (NIBSC 96/790) to calibrate the chimeric armored L-RNA, which was diluted by 10-fold serial dilutions to obtain samples containing 106 to 102 copies. In conclusion, the approach we used for armored L-RNA preparation is practical and could reduce the labor and cost of quality control in multiplex RNA virus assays. Furthermore, we can assign the chimeric armored RNA with an international unit for quantitative detection.


https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2395109/pdf/2248-07.pdf

 


 

 

I posted the original. This ones better, but couldn’t see a date on it. You can click on the links  I’m not understanding the accession numbers. I want to find out if the number for the one being told is here now is different from the above but for sars cov 1,2 and 3 all have same accession number. Is there anyone who understands this better? 
 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2395109/#!po=0.793651

 


 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Mr H said:

Can transfer your assets to the blockchain prior so they can't trace or try and tax you, hop on the boat, arrivederci facist Britain! Won't know where you are!

You've nailed it. A solution that might actually work :D 

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15 minutes ago, BridgeBuilder said:

 

And if you keep silent and stare, they get really uneasy. This is when I transmit my mind control and do all kinds of stuff to them. ;) LOL

Haha!

I might try an old Latin curse next time. See their reaction 😂😂

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On 2/4/2021 at 8:01 AM, alexa said:

 

The spider, and the spider's web, is seen as a symbol for God's protection.

 

Jewish legend has it; that a spider spun its web over the door of that part of the cave where David was concealed.

 

So this comes out of the bible?

In another words, they don't want God's protection? Your explanation makes sense but it doesn't go with that door sign.

 

Second thoughts, they've got protection from Moloch or whatever they are referring to therefore they don't need God's protection?

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22 minutes ago, BridgeBuilder said:

At this point in this ridiculous game, you might as well say I am waiting for my turn and if anybody argues with you say that you have a freedom of choice. Since euthanasia is still banned and you haven't got the fund to fly to Switzerland or they won't let you fly without the vaccine (catch 22) so tell them to f-off. Can they argue with your wish? And if they have mask on or say they have been vaxxed, remind them that they are safe and question if their logic is sane. If they turn around that mask dosen't protect 100% (whch is true) then suggest that they wear 6 masks. lol

I’ve only had people double take so far. They look then quickly look again. I’m always polite. 

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5 minutes ago, BridgeBuilder said:

Second thoughts, they've got protection from Moloch or whatever they are referring to therefore they don't need God's protection?

 

Yes. they don't want or need Gods protection here 🕸️

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4 hours ago, allymisfit said:

I love your contributions to the forum Alexa.

I always feel a sense of relief when reading them.

Thank you so much :)

 

I'm out of likes again, but thanks ally :classic_biggrin:

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On 5/16/2020 at 12:39 PM, Tinfoil Hat said:

Thanks Fluke. I wonder if they'll make everybody have the test before returning to work. 

 

And whether they can differentiate between the presence of antibodies signifying you've got it, or previously had it.

Very good question.  The only really important thing is to know if you have antibodies to c19 which means you have had it (one variant anyway) and should have at least nominal immunity.  All else is meaningless.

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