Christianity is Just Another Satanic Cult

[SuperstarNeilC]

 

[honzam]

It is not, see the difference. 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turning_the_other_cheek

 

Reaction out of this world.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LaVeyan_Satanism

 

The Nine Satanic Statements

5. Satan represents vengeance instead of turning the other cheek.

7. Satan represents man as just another animal who, because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development", has become the most vicious animal of all.

 

The Eleven Satanic Rules of the Earth

11. When walking in open territory, bother no one. If someone bothers you, ask him to stop. If he does not stop, destroy him.

 

Instinctive animal reaction.

[Jason57]

Christianity the religion I don't believe to be the answer. The Vatican is most definitely Satanic.

 I put alot of stock in Yeshua and his messages, not religion.

[cosmicinaudio]

Religion in general seems to be a magnet for some pretty rum characters. Born again Christians (or any religion) who like to shout about it always put on my guard as to what their deal is. It's been my experience, at least in the UK, that normal, law abiding, productive people have no interest in religion.

[honzam]

I believe Christianity to be right and safe spiritual path because core of the teachings contains many humanistic ideas. There could also be hidden reference to Hindu chakra system in some texts (Lamb with seven eyes in the Revelation) I am convinced that Gnostic Sophia is Hindu Kundalini. Here is why:

 

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/sjc.html

another link https://www.earlychristianwritings.com/sophia.html

 

The Sophia of Jesus Christ

 

And <he> said to him: "How many are the aeons of the immortals, starting from the infinities?"

 

The perfect Savior said: "Whoever has ears to hear, let him hear. The first aeon is that of Son of Man, who is called 'First Begetter', who is called 'Savior', who has appeared. The second aeon (is) that of Man, who is called 'Adam, Eye of Light'. That which embraces these is the aeon over which there is no kingdom, (the aeon) of the Eternal Infinite God, the Self-begotten aeon of the aeons that are in it, (the aeon) of the immortals, whom I described earlier, (the aeon) above the Seventh, that appeared from Sophia, which is the first aeon.

 

Above seventh chakra. ???

 

Yaldabaoth seems to be that lower animal manifestation of divinity. With his own animal angels as females in his harem, although text is very cryptic.

 

Mary said to him: "Holy Lord, where did your disciples come from, and where are they going, and (what) should they do here?"

 

The Perfect Savior said to them: "I want you to know that Sophia, the Mother of the Universe and the consort, desired by herself to bring these to existence without her male (consort). But by the will of the Father of the Universe, that his unimaginable goodness might be revealed, he created that curtain between the immortals and those that came afterward, that the consequence might follow ... [BG 118:] ... every aeon and chaos - that the defect of the female might <appear>, and it might come about that Error would contend with her. And these became the curtain of spirit. From <the> aeons above the emanations of Light, as I have said already, a drop from Light and Spirit came down to the lower regions of Almighty in chaos, that their molded forms might appear from that drop, for it is a judgment on him, Arch-Begetter, who is called 'Yaldabaoth'.

 

Next part might talk about two different path of Kundalini.

 

That drop revealed their molded forms through the breath, as a living soul. It was withered and it slumbered in the ignorance of the soul. When it became hot from the breath of the Great Light of the Male, and it took thought, (then) names were received by all who are in the world of chaos, and all things that are in it through that Immortal One, when the breath blew into him. But when this came about by the will of Mother Sophia - so that Immortal Man might piece together the garments there for a judgment on the robbers - <he> then welcomed the blowing of that breath; but since he was soul-like, he was not able to take that power for himself until the number of chaos should be complete, (that is,) when the time determined by the great angel is complete.

 

And here is mentioned something like opposite of Yaldabaoth’s realm – Mother and multitude of masculine angels instead of masculine ruler and his angels.

 

"Behold, I have revealed to you the name of the Perfect One, the whole will of the Mother of the Holy Angels, that the masculine multitude may be completed here, that there might appear in the aeons, the infinities and those that came to be in the untraceable wealth of the Great Invisible Spirit, that they all might take from his goodness, even the wealth of their rest that has no kingdom over it. I came from First Who Was Sent, that I might reveal to you Him Who Is from the Beginning, because of the arrogance of Arch-Begetter and his angels, since they say about themselves that they are gods. And I came to remove them from their blindness, that I might tell everyone about the God who is above the universe. Therefore, tread upon their graves, humiliate their malicious intent, and break their yoke and arouse my own. I have given you authority over all things as Sons of Light, that you might tread upon their power with your feet."

[Jason57]

I believe the old testament God commanding genocide and child brides to be evil. The Tulmud, Islam and O.T are all cool with that, but don't approve of homosexuality. It makes no sense.

[honzam]

Homosexuality is against the God of Old Testament because it doesn't produce any children. His role is to be Father and to sustain life on the planet. Children are His wealth.

[honzam]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Christianity/comments/ujjmqi/why_does_the_god_of_the_old_testament_seem_so/

 

Why does the God of the Old Testament seem so different from that of the New Testament?

 

I'm an atheist but I love learning about religion in general. I've recently taken a class about Ancient Israel, which involved a lot of study of the Hebrew Bible, which is mostly the same as the OT apart from slightly different wording from my understanding.

I was just wondering how you reconcile the differences in the God portrayed in the OT vs NT (The god of the OT seems to me to be a lot harsher and more violent than the one in the NT) because the christian God is supposed to be immutable. Malachi 3:6 quite clearly states this.

Would love to know what your opinions are on the differences, if you even think there are any.

If I'm mistaken in my perception of God in the OT and God in the NT please let me know.

 

He is an animal and subject to animal behavior determined by animal instincts.

[Campion]

1 hour ago, Jason57 said:

I believe the old testament God commanding genocide and child brides to be evil. The Tulmud, Islam and O.T are all cool with that, but don't approve of homosexuality. It makes no sense.

 

How about if it wasn't God who wrote the OT, but priests of a bronze/iron age people who fought and maybe genocided other tribes to take their land, and have an authoritarian social policy to increase their own population. Brutal, but it's a survival strategy. And how many other tribes and empires did the same kind of thing? 

 

Edited October 12 by Campion

[honzam]

Lets put aside that Old Testament is completely made up.

 

Why God of OT sometimes speaks and acts like a selfish psychopath?

Why is God portrayed as someone you can negotiate with?

 

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 32&version=ESV

 

When the people saw that Moses delayed to come down from the mountain, the people gathered themselves together to Aaron and said to him, “Up, make us gods who shall go before us. As for this Moses, the man who brought us up out of the land of Egypt, we do not know what has become of him.” 2 So Aaron said to them, “Take off the rings of gold that are in the ears of your wives, your sons, and your daughters, and bring them to me.” 3 So all the people took off the rings of gold that were in their ears and brought them to Aaron. 4 And he received the gold from their hand and fashioned it with a graving tool and made a golden[a] calf. And they said, “These are your gods, O Israel, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt!” 5 When Aaron saw this, he built an altar before it. And Aaron made a proclamation and said, “Tomorrow shall be a feast to the Lord.” 6 And they rose up early the next day and offered burnt offerings and brought peace offerings. And the people sat down to eat and drink and rose up to play.

 

7 And the Lord said to Moses, “Go down, for your people, whom you brought up out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves. 8 They have turned aside quickly out of the way that I commanded them. They have made for themselves a golden calf and have worshiped it and sacrificed to it and said, ‘These are your gods, O Israel, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt!’” 9 And the Lord said to Moses, “I have seen this people, and behold, it is a stiff-necked people. 10 Now therefore let me alone, that my wrath may burn hot against them and I may consume them, in order that I may make a great nation of you.”

 

11 But Moses implored the Lord his God and said, “O Lord, why does your wrath burn hot against your people, whom you have brought out of the land of Egypt with great power and with a mighty hand? 12 Why should the Egyptians say, ‘With evil intent did he bring them out, to kill them in the mountains and to consume them from the face of the earth’? Turn from your burning anger and relent from this disaster against your people. 13 Remember Abraham, Isaac, and Israel, your servants, to whom you swore by your own self, and said to them, ‘I will multiply your offspring as the stars of heaven, and all this land that I have promised I will give to your offspring, and they shall inherit it forever.’” 14 And the Lord relented from the disaster that he had spoken of bringing on his people.

 

It is natural for alpha male superlion to feel insulted by statue of calf. 

[Campion]

4 minutes ago, honzam said:

Lets put aside that Old Testament is completely made up.

 

Why God of OT sometimes speaks and acts like a selfish psychopath?

Why is God portrayed as someone you can negotiate with?

...
2 So Aaron said to them, “Take off the rings of gold that are in the ears of your wives, your sons, and your daughters, and bring them to me.” 3 So all the people took off the rings of gold that were in their ears and brought them to Aaron. 4 And he received the gold from their hand and fashioned it with a graving tool and made a golden[a] calf. And they said, “These are your gods, O Israel, who brought you up out of the land of Egypt!” 5 When Aaron saw this, he built an altar before it. And Aaron made a proclamation and said, “Tomorrow shall be a feast to the Lord.” 6 And they rose up early the next day and offered burnt offerings and brought peace offerings. And the people sat down to eat and drink and rose up to play.

  

A calf or bull is likely a symbol of the Canaanite God Baal, and to me it shows an instinctive appeal of Pagan religion which re-emerged when their leader Moses was absent, as he was apparently promoting monotheism. 

 

So there's a power struggle going on between the Gods and, behind the scenes, between the priesthood and the people as to which is the top God. And taking it further, monotheists want Jehovah to be the only God and demote the others to a lesser status.  Most religions of the time had a hierarchy in the heavens, with a chief God and subservient Gods and Goddesses who sometimes fight among themselves; then this gets reflected in religions here on Earth. 

 

This was around the time of the bronze age collapse with a lot of disruption and changes going on. 

[Jason57]

Could it be that there are several Gods/Spirits interacting with humanity in the O.T? That might ne why Jesus said test the Spirit  use discernment.

 

If it's of death, jealousy, anger, etc it's of evil.

 

If it's a Spirit of Love, peace, forgiveness, joy, faithfulness etc it's the God of Love.

[honzam]

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Exodus 4&version=ESV

 

Moses Given Powerful Signs

1 Then Moses answered, “But behold, they will not believe me or listen to my voice, for they will say, ‘The Lord did not appear to you.’” 2 The Lord said to him, “What is that in your hand?” He said, “A staff.” 3 And he said, “Throw it on the ground.” So he threw it on the ground, and it became a serpent, and Moses ran from it. 4 But the Lord said to Moses, “Put out your hand and catch it by the tail”—so he put out his hand and caught it, and it became a staff in his hand— 5 “that they may believe that the Lord, the God of their fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has appeared to you.”

 

What kind of spirit uses serpent to show its existence?

Is that a reference to two possible path of Kundalini as human tool turns into an animal and back again?

Does it relates to Buddha’s call to the Earth to be a witness of his enlightenment by touching the ground?

Are nagas and OT angels same entities?

[Campion]

The ancient Egyptians practised magic and snakes were an important symbol too. They represented both protection and authority on the positive side; and chaos on the negative.  Pharaohs had a model cobra on their crowns.  So it feeds into the theory that Moses was an Egyptian priest and magician possibly connected with Akhenaten the monotheist Pharaoh (Freud believed this) although it's just one theory. 

 

https://chriswilsonstudio.com/snakes-in-egyptian-mythology/   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akhenaten#Speculative_theories  

 

You're right about a connection with the Buddha too, in the story there's a snake (naga) called Mucalinda who appeared, to protect Gautama Buddha from a storm. 

 

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mucilinda  

 

Snakes appear in a lot of mythologies, tho I've not come across them being compared with angels. But it could be a link there too. 

[honzam]

Word Seraph could be derived from "burning one" or serpent.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seraph

Origins and development

In Hebrew, the word saraph means "burning", and is used seven times throughout the text of the Hebrew Bible as a noun, usually to denote "serpent",^[4] twice in the Book of Numbers,^[5][6] once in the Book of Deuteronomy,^[7] and four times in the Book of Isaiah.^{[8][9][10][11]} The reason why the word for "burning" was also used to denote a serpent is not universally agreed upon; it may be due to a certain snake species' fiery colors, or perhaps the burning sensation left by its venomous bite. Regardless, its plural form, seraphim, occurs in both Numbers and Isaiah, but only in Isaiah is it used to denote an angelic being; likewise, these angels are referred to only as the plural seraphim – Isaiah later uses the singular saraph to describe a "fiery flying serpent", in line with the other uses of the term throughout the Hebrew Bible.

[lizardsquad]

The bible is just programming. It is the software that you download and allow to run on the hardware (your brain).

Religious people can easily be manipulated by spies and those with in-depth knowledge of Bible verses , just like they did to Muslims when the need for "Islamic State" arose (to satisfy political purposes).

 

Right now we don't hear much about ISIS anymore because the powers behind the veil are using the same religious radicalization template on Christians, especially the MAGA ones, in an attempt to hijack their minds and turn them in political tools. None of it has anything to do with proper Christianity:

 

- blaming and scapegoating political enemies "the democrats" for no reason

- demonizing minorities (lgbt, Mexicans, Afros, gays, Jews) 

 

 

These things are all expressions of hate. And hate is not from the Christ, or God. It is the very opposite.

 

Some have been brainwashed to fight for "god" , harass people for "Christ" , spy on people for god, etc. If you encounter one , run like hell. These are narcissistic individuals and groups who adhere to groupthink , who are the opposite of what they claim to be.

 

Ask yourselves...does God really need humans to spy for him, bother and punish other humans? This God must be a blind God then with no power in the real world...if he needs to manipulate people into doing questionable stuff to other people in secret.....

 

 

Edited October 22 by lizardsquad

[honzam]

God of the OT is real phenomenon. Those advanced animals (angels, nagas, dragons, etc.) seem to exist and they do interact with people during history. Result is manifestation of animal will and instincts that cause them to treat humans as children plus lot of human fantasies as various religions.

 

Moses had interaction with angel in the form of fire inside of bush, Muhammad with archangel Gabriel and Nagarjuna with nagas.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nagarjuna

 

Traditional religious hagiographies credit Nāgārjuna with being associated with the teaching of the Prajñāpāramitā sūtras as well as with having revealed these scriptures to the world after they had remained hidden for some time. The sources differ on where this happened and how Nāgārjuna retrieved the sutras. Some sources say he retrieved the sutras from the land of the nāgas.[18]

 

Nāgārjuna himself is often depicted in composite form comprising human and nāga characteristics. Nāgas are snake-like supernatural beings of great magical power that feature in Hindu, Buddhist and Jain mythology.[19] Nāgas are found throughout Indian religious culture, and typically signify intelligent serpents or dragons that are responsible for rain, lakes, and other bodies of water. In Buddhism, a naga can be a symbol of a realised arhat or wise person.[20]

 

 

Nicholas Roerich "Nagarjuna Conqueror of the Serpent" (1925)

[honzam]

Another example

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Lion

 

The Snow Lion (sometimes spelled snowlion; Tibetan: གངས་སེང་གེ་, Wylie: gangs seng ge; Chinese: 雪獅) is a celestial animal of Tibet.

Snow Lioness milk

In Tibetan lore, two Tibetan culture heroes, Gesar and Milarepa, were said to have been raised by snow lioness.^[1] The milk of the Snow Lioness (Tibetan: Gangs Sengemo) is reputed to contain special nutrients to heal the body and restore it to harmony. Some holy medicinal remedies are believed to contain the essence of Snow Lioness milk. Her milk is also used to symbolise the Dharma and its purity, as Milarepa replies to a man seeking to buy the Dharma from him with expensive gifts:

"I, the snow lioness who stays in snowy solitudes, Have milk which is like the essential nectar. In the absence of golden cups, I would not pour it in an ordinary vessel."

Legend has it that the lioness produces milk from its paws, and the milk may pass into hollow balls given to the lioness to play with. This ball may be represented in Tibetan art as a three-coloured "wheel of joy" (dga' 'khyil).^[8]