Are men naturally violent creatures?

[Mr H]

So I remember when I was really young. The natural way for boys to sort out issues was via violence. I can remember back to those times before I was made self conscious, and I remember violence flowing through my veins...

 

Then of course via teachers, parents, culture, you're taught as a man - NOT to be violent. You're meant to surpress it and talk about things 

 

I have not been violent since those days.

 

The other day, my switch flicked after something happened. I could feel years and years of surpressed violence coursing through my veins....

 

I'm wondering if naturally we are these violent beasts, chimpanzees pretending to be civilized?

 

What is the repercussions if any, if true?

 

I'm wondering if all males are surpressing their violence so we can live nice cushy consumerist lives? 

[Anti Facts Sir]

Sometimes a bit of violence sorts it out. Like when you're being bullied at school. Once you hit out/back, and show you're no pushover, they stop. No amount of talk is gonna do that. 

[Campion]

These days violence has been claimed by the state, with its monopoly on the police and military force. And where are they going to find their recruits able to put up a fight if necessary and keep us from being invaded?  Yes we try to gloss over our aggression in the name of civilisation but wouldn't survive long without it. Mind you, the actual fighting is usually done at a distance with modern weapons, which need a clear head.  

 

In the wild, many social mammals do have fights between the males and create a social hierarchy to determine who gets the best position.  But they don't often fight to the death, the weaker ones give up and accept their place until they sense the pack leader getting old and ready to be challenged again. 

 

We have created safety valves for the violent streak with ritualised forms of conflict, such as sports. Martial arts and boxing being obvious examples, but even things like footy and rugger play that role. 

Edited September 12 by Campion

[pi3141]

Yeah we're naturally violent.

 

Found out i had an issue when I was 8 or 9, arguing with my sister and I absolutely lost it. Punched through a glass partition in a door. 

 

Until then I had always tried to avoid conflict, but she wound me up so much, I saw black, lost control. 

 

After that I kept myself away from bad situations. I learnt martial arts, Judo, Karate, Taekwondo and Tai Chi.

 

First day of secondary school I got into a fight with a kid who turned out to be 1 of the hardest kids from another school.

 

I didn't back down, he didn't win. Neither of us did really. But no one came near me after that.

 

I had a traumatic violent childhood, no bully can hold a candle to that.

 

You can only be truly peaceful if you know how and can be violent, but you value peace more and are able to control yourself. 

 

Men shouldn't be ashamed of violence, but be able to control it.

 

Imo.

 

Edit: I did Disco dancing lessons as well. It wasn't all violence. Although my Violin lessons were probably violent to the teacher. 

 

 

Edited September 13 by pi3141

[Dragon Slayer]

Yes we are, and yes we were. If you jibby juiced, it's the latter. All part of the plan. Like Ukraine war, testerone meat grinder. 

[cosmicinaudio]

Men get totally contradictory narratives on violence these days, on one hand many on the "right" tell us that white Europeans are innocent, non-confrontational wallflowers who wouldn't hurt a fly and that violence is the domain of the Muslim and black invaders. On the other hand, on "social media" sites like Twitter/X, you get fed a constant feed of men being brutally assaulted and beating the shit out of each other, and captions like "FAFO", ie "Fuck around and Find out", and violence essentially being glorified and the idea being presented that a "real man" solves his issues and "beefs" with violence.

 

There is a strange duality going on in my opinion, we are at once told that violence is totally alien to our pacifistic and altruistic European/white nature, but also that violence and instant retribution is the highest expression of masculinity and masculine honour. No wonder most men, especially white men, are totally confused these days.

 

I don't think all men are by nature violent, it depends on the individual man in question. Some men are extremely violent and have a hard time controlling it, and some men have no inclination to violence whatsoever and would be less likely to strike you than even most women would be. I think the former group is more likely to be working class, and the latter more likely to be middle class and work in a non-manual profession like office work or academia.

Edited September 18 by cosmicinaudio

[tommo]

On 9/12/2025 at 10:50 PM, Mr H said:

chimpanzees pretending to be civilized?

 

 

[pheasants revolt]

Always going to be violent people.

 

 

[Mikhail Liebestein]

I'm not violent naturally, though I have a threshold switch, at which point my martial arts skill might be put to use.