cosmicinaudio Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 4 minutes ago, Velma said: The ECHR gives me the right.... You no doubt consider yourself a "truther", yet you are clearly unable to think outside of the "I'm Scottish therefore the English are my enemy" paradigm. You are so brainwashed you even put cabal, NWO entities like the ECHR and no doubt the EU above England. You are thinking how the cabal want you to think. The reality is Scotland is as infested with freemasons, and Illuminati bloodline families that you consider Scottish through and through as England is. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Slayer Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 57 minutes ago, cosmicinaudio said: Something I don't understand is why does the cabal hate the St. George's cross so much? It's common in Scotland, Wales and Ireland to fly the national flag and no one seems to care about that or consider it racist, but whenever anyone flies the English flag the politicians and "elites" and many middle class liberals go absolutely mental, saying it's "racist", divisive, and demand they are taken down. Many take it upon themselves to vandalise the flags themselves. I live in a middle class area of Southern England, and there's no St. George's crosses round here because most of the people round here are middle class bedwetters, but there are people round here who fly Welsh flags, Scottish flags, even the Yorkshire flag, and no one seems to care about that. Yet if anyone put a St. George's cross up I imagine most of the middle class types would be disgusted and want it taken down, I suspect a few would even anonymously complain to the council. What is it about the St. George's cross that upsets and infuriates people so much? I don't get it, no other national flag seems to provoke such a response that the English flag does. Is there any esoteric reason why the cabal want it stamped out? It's biblical. The little season and the lost tribes are rabbit holes worth exploring( seperate theories). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Slayer Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 23 hours ago, pi3141 said: Russia 'sabotages EU chief von der Leyen's plane with GPS interference attack' By IMOGEN GARFINKEL - SENIOR FOREIGN NEWS REPORTER Russian GPS jamming is suspected of sabotaging the European Commission chief Ursula von der Leyen's jet on the way to Bulgaria. The plane carrying the EU chief was forced to land at Plovdiv on Sunday using only paper maps, when a surprise interference attack suddenly disabled the GPS navigation system. The incident was likely the result of a 'blatant' Russian sabotage operation, the Bulgarian authorities told the European Commission. Link - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15054019/Russia-sabotages-EU-chief-von-der-Leyens-plane-GPS-interference-attack.html 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 On 9/1/2025 at 2:10 PM, cosmicinaudio said: White English men, especially working class ones, have become totally disenfranchised in this country. It's almost impossible to get a "nice" job as a white English man these days, ie an office job, because the management and recruit process of such companies is dominated by ethnics, empowered womyn and fairies. These types of people mostly regard white English men with utter contempt. The only work open to us that doesn't require advanced qualifications is dirty, demeaning and physically demanding, outdoor sort of work that the aforementioned groups don't want. If you're a white English man, especially a working class one, you are despised by default by many if not the majority in this country. I will politely disagree with you there. I'm a white English man, and I consider myself 'working class' still. I've worked in professional jobs for many years, and even where I work now, I have loads of dealings with other companies, and it is other white English men (and women) that I mainly deal with. What you seem to be suggesting is that 'white people' are now 'victims', which is the perception game that our lords and masters have been playing for years with blacks and ethnic minorities. "It's somebody else's fault" etc. I worked hard at school and college, got decent GCSE and A Level results, but when I started working, I found myself at the bottom of a ladder, doing low-paid unskilled work. Over the years, I've continued to work hard, and I've progressed 'up the ladder', into a position where I have a great job, and am earning a moderately decent salary. And that's because of the skills and experience that I've gained over the years. If you don't bother at school, don't get qualifications, and have no desire to 'better yourself', then of course all you'll be good for is low-skilled menial work. For which there is a massive over-supply at present, so it is going to be difficult to find work. Yes, it is true that big companies and corporations have their 'diversity quotas' to fill, but there are still huge gaps in the upper-professional levels of employment, and those suitably skilled and qualified 'white English men' will get those jobs, if they apply for them. If you want to improve your employment opportunities, one needs to improve themselves. Learn new skills, learn a trade, something for which there is a demand. Here's some truth for you: we advertised a job last year at our work; we got hundreds of applicants via a job recruitment platform. Many were ruled out straight away from reading their CVs, as they were completely unsuitable for what we were looking for. We picked out a handful that 'seemed okay', but when we got them in for an interview, it was clear that they didn't add up to what was presented on their CV. Yes, most of the candidates were 'ethnic minorities', but we did have some 'white English' applicants, who were not what we were looking for. We're not a big corporation, seeking to boost our 'diversity quota', we're just looking for the one suitable candidate that we feel would fit our needs! 9 hours ago, cosmicinaudio said: I live in a middle class area of Southern England, and there's no St. George's crosses round here because most of the people round here are middle class bedwetters, but there are people round here who fly Welsh flags, Scottish flags, even the Yorkshire flag, and no one seems to care about that. Yet if anyone put a St. George's cross up I imagine most of the middle class types would be disgusted and want it taken down, I suspect a few would even anonymously complain to the council. What is it about the St. George's cross that upsets and infuriates people so much? I don't get it, no other national flag seems to provoke such a response that the English flag does. Is there any esoteric reason why the cabal want it stamped out? As I've mentioned already, it's a "perception thing". Thanks to propaganda, and media brain-washing. It is true that certain nationalist and 'actual far-right' groups love to associate themselves with the St George cross, so it is a little tainted. But at the end of the day, it is the national flag of England. What is sad to me is that it seems the only people who are really bothered or 'made uncomfortable' by the flag of England, is people who are English! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoScota Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 10 hours ago, cosmicinaudio said: You no doubt consider yourself a "truther", yet you are clearly unable to think outside of the "I'm Scottish therefore the English are my enemy" paradigm. You are so brainwashed you even put cabal, NWO entities like the ECHR and no doubt the EU above England. You are thinking how the cabal want you to think. The reality is Scotland is as infested with freemasons, and Illuminati bloodline families that you consider Scottish through and through as England is. It's funny because I'm Scots-Irish on my fathers side, French on mothers side with probably some English mixed in there. I have an English accent so lots of Scots diss me despite being blood. Ridiculous. Besides as above poster mentioned.....we are the lost tribes, English, Scots, Irish, Welsh and other Europeans. We were the ones who called out YHVH as evil and decided NOT to worship him, and we were "exiled" It is my belief that is why whytey is targeted most of all for replacement. It is in our DNA to not go along with the fake imposter evil "god" so we are more likely to be a problem for the cult. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoScota Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said: I will politely disagree with you there. I'm a white English man, and I consider myself 'working class' still. I've worked in professional jobs for many years, and even where I work now, I have loads of dealings with other companies, and it is other white English men (and women) that I mainly deal with. What you seem to be suggesting is that 'white people' are now 'victims', which is the perception game that our lords and masters have been playing for years with blacks and ethnic minorities. "It's somebody else's fault" etc. I worked hard at school and college, got decent GCSE and A Level results, but when I started working, I found myself at the bottom of a ladder, doing low-paid unskilled work. Over the years, I've continued to work hard, and I've progressed 'up the ladder', into a position where I have a great job, and am earning a moderately decent salary. And that's because of the skills and experience that I've gained over the years. If you don't bother at school, don't get qualifications, and have no desire to 'better yourself', then of course all you'll be good for is low-skilled menial work. For which there is a massive over-supply at present, so it is going to be difficult to find work. Yes, it is true that big companies and corporations have their 'diversity quotas' to fill, but there are still huge gaps in the upper-professional levels of employment, and those suitably skilled and qualified 'white English men' will get those jobs, if they apply for them. If you want to improve your employment opportunities, one needs to improve themselves. Learn new skills, learn a trade, something for which there is a demand. Here's some truth for you: we advertised a job last year at our work; we got hundreds of applicants via a job recruitment platform. Many were ruled out straight away from reading their CVs, as they were completely unsuitable for what we were looking for. We picked out a handful that 'seemed okay', but when we got them in for an interview, it was clear that they didn't add up to what was presented on their CV. Yes, most of the candidates were 'ethnic minorities', but we did have some 'white English' applicants, who were not what we were looking for. We're not a big corporation, seeking to boost our 'diversity quota', we're just looking for the one suitable candidate that we feel would fit our needs! As I've mentioned already, it's a "perception thing". Thanks to propaganda, and media brain-washing. It is true that certain nationalist and 'actual far-right' groups love to associate themselves with the St George cross, so it is a little tainted. But at the end of the day, it is the national flag of England. What is sad to me is that it seems the only people who are really bothered or 'made uncomfortable' by the flag of England, is people who are English! It's the programming. Sad to see such cowering of the English about their flag, with regards to not wanting to be seen as racist or intolerant of people flooding their cuntry to such a degree, it is treason against the people. Exactly how the puppet masters wanted it. And now its making a resurgence, of course there are instances being reported of memorials being vandalised with the St Georges cross. Mind effery 101 to stomp back down any bright ideas of flying the flag without shame. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1velocity7 Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 watch the footage of police attacking anyone. all the english beta males do is get their phone out we are the many means shit when the police few own the beta males 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 12 hours ago, Dragon Slayer said: So where did the story come from? And why. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Slayer Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 17 hours ago, pi3141 said: So where did the story come from? And why. To counter the overwhelming messianic khazarian propaganda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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J47 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 (edited) astonished people on here still think, that people, are ashamed to fly their national flag when you can see quite the opposite these days, that the cabal successfully manipulate everyone to think what they want when clearly that is failing, with larger numbers of people if protests, and comments sections are anything to go by, that certain groups know the cabals plans, and are responding to that, rather than they just being extremists and most of all, that racism has increased towards ethnic minorities when in fact, it's been directed at the white natives of the Uk for some time and people are tiring of it now, not that Is endorsing racism however but some are having more of a knee jerk reaction than others, it seems Edited September 5 by J47 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 21 hours ago, 1velocity7 said: That woman truly is a piece of shit. Suppose she's another one who "kept her mouth shut for the sake of diversity". Not that she's normally one for keeping quiet! I say this as I live in Birmingham, and she used to be my MP. There have been rumours and stories for years about grooming gangs operating around the city, and it was all being covered up by both the city council and the local West Midlands police force. If she knew something about police officers actually being 'involved' - which goes some way to explaining why the police would go to such lengths to dismiss and 'cover up' such allegations - then surely she should have felt compelled to speak out and get something done about this? So much for being the 'minister for safe-guarding' and an outspoken feminist! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted September 6 Author Share Posted September 6 As billions are spent buying up flats and houses for asylum seekers, with locals moved out... How long until a group of small boat migrants are moved into a home in your street? A special report by SUE REID 00:03, 06 Sep 2025, updated 10:20, 06 Sep 2025 By SUE REID At the heart of a seaside town on Lincolnshire's east coast, three big Victorian houses stand just a few yards from each other on the same long road. Until recently, they contained flats for Skegness people of all ages who paid £500 or so a month to live in them. Today all that has changed. The former renters are no longer there. The new residents, we have discovered, are 21 young Somali and Afghan men, some fresh off the Channel boats, who told the Daily Mail – as they smoked cigarettes in the gardens – of their delight at having a free roof in their newly adopted country. If this sounds an extraordinary reversal of fortunes for Skegness locals, it is a microcosm of what is happening across the country. In a giant snub to British people, a secretive government operation is under way to scatter thousands of asylum seekers (and some genuine refugees) across working-class communities, leafy suburban avenues, historic market towns and even in £450,000 new-build houses on smart private housing estates bought with taxpayers' money. Faced with fierce, flag-waving public rebellion over the thousands still in 200 migrant hotels, the Home Office has now switched strategy. Whitehall mandarins are under orders to give the newcomers, including young foreign men under the age of 30, homes on our streets instead. This Daily Mail investigation shows that the landscape of Britain is being changed in real time. What has been dubbed 'Operation Scatter' by social media critics is likely to be the next flashpoint in the furore now rocking the country over uncontrolled immigration and unguarded national borders. The Home Office refused to answer the simplest of questions: we asked how many houses in multi-occupation (HMOs), like those in Skegness, are being given by the Government to migrants who have been moved from hotels or have recently arrived on our shores. Then, in a dark moment for freedom of speech, the Home Office demanded I send its media department the headline for this article before publication. I was also asked to provide the theme of our investigation, including any criticisms it might be making. When I refused (I had merely asked for one set of figures), saying that I doubted any British newspaper would agree to this demand, the response was: 'You'd be surprised.' My Home Office conversation made it crystal clear that migrant housing is a highly sensitive issue for Sir Keir Starmer's regime. It is already struggling to accommodate 300,000 asylum seekers – many of them economic migrants blatantly cheating the system – who are waiting for a verdict on their initial claims or appeals. Arriving, too, are thousands of Afghans (and soon it will be Gazans) who might be deserving but are also lured by generous resettlement programmes offered by the UK despite our deep financial woes. We travelled the country to find out whether or not so-called Operation Scatter really does give preference to foreign newcomers while a total of 1.4 million households in England and Wales languish, sometimes for years, on council or social housing waiting lists. First stop was an East Sussex housing estate, near a pretty lake, with two pristine homes, where many Britons would love to live. Both are owned by the local Wealden District Council, which bought them for a total of £825,000 in October last year to house Afghan families. This council has twice refused to tell the Daily Mail the total number of properties, including HMOs, it has bought or made available for migrants and refugees. In February this year, it had almost 1,300 households, many of them local families, on its waiting list. Yet we know through government Land Registry records that the lakeside new-builds were purchased for £375,000 and £450,000 – with the council named as the proprietors of both. A four-hour drive north brings us to a terraced house in a cul-de-sac in the port of Grimsby, Lincolnshire. Worth £85,000 on the open market, according to local estate agents, it is perfectly priced for first-time buyers or a young family with children. But that's off the cards. According to the Land Registry, the four-bedroom property is leased for the next seven years to Mears, one of the Government's three giant providers of immigration housing. The other two biggest firms are Clearsprings Ready Homes and Serco. Like Mears, they have been awarded multi-billion-pound contracts signed off by the Tories. This house in Grimsby is home to three young migrant men, two Afghans and a Yemeni. One has recently come in on a Channel boat. Another has moved from a Sheffield hotel facing a wind-down. Abdul, from Afghanistan, told me he is appealing his failed asylum claim and hopes to bring his mother to Britain. He said she 'doesn't like having her face covered with a veil' in a country now ruled by the Taliban. But it's in Skegness where we find one of the most glaring examples of Operation Scatter's injustice. When I visited the three Victorian houses occupied by Afghan and Somali men living rent-free, I did a search of the official records, including Companies House, the Government's register of British businesses. I discovered that these properties were bought last year by a local firm which installed new kitchens, garden security lights, fences and freshly painted front doors – after the previous residents were told to leave by their landlord. The lucky new residents – asylum seekers, failed asylum seekers and three who told me they are student visa overstayers – are delighted to be allocated houses in Britain. 'I am so pleased,' said one 29-year-old Afghan man when we chatted at the window of the biggest of the houses, which was sold at auction for £120,000 last year through property giants Savills. He struggled with English so we used a translation app on his mobile phone to understand each other. 'Asylum? I hope for that and now I wait for the result,' he said. 'Your country gives me a living allowance. I am no rent. I only leave Skegness when I travel to London to see my immigration lawyer who is dealing with my case.' Further south in a commuter town, a half-hour train ride from London, we discovered a three-bedroom house with a large garden and off-street parking. It's conservatively estimated to be worth £350,000, say estate agents. This week, a local council allocated it to an Afghan family through a government-sponsored refugee settlement programme. Electoral records show that, until earlier this year, it was home to five adults, including a woman of 70. These people had English-sounding names including Smith. It is unclear whether the council has bought the property or if it was already on its books as a rental property for social housing. The Daily Mail has chosen not to identify the council concerned or the address of this house. But on Tuesday, the family was delivered to its new home in a people carrier. The mother, in a hijab, used her mobile phone to film one of the children running excitedly up the steps into their new home. The properties we identified this week are housing 35 people and are worth at least £2million. Yet they are only a snapshot of a fast-moving situation as migrants begin to leave the 200 remaining hotels still costing us £5million a day. Nearly 29,000 have arrived this year on Channel boats, according to the BBC. More than 50,000 have reached these shores since Labour came to power. Angela Rayner, until yesterday the housing secretary, has said all of Britain must take a fair share of newcomers. Last month, she said social housing should be allocated to migrants as well as to long-term British residents. At a contentious Court of Appeal hearing last month, the Home Office thwarted an earlier injunction ending migrants' stays at The Bell Hotel in Epping, a ruling that provoked yet more protests. The public mood worsened when Bridget Phillipson, the Education Secretary, said the Home Office had a duty to protect asylum seekers from destitution. Their wellbeing, she made clear to Sky News, outweighed the safety concerns of local communities who believe, after a spate of sex attacks, that young foreign men on our streets and in our hotels are a danger to girls and women. Yet on the Government goes, deaf, it seems, to the mounting concerns. Earlier this year, the Home Office issued a clarion call for 5,000 properties in order to house up to 20,000 migrants. Ministers now plan to expand existing deals with councils to buy, lease or rent properties with at least two bedrooms to house, on average, four migrants each. Government contractor Serco has already issued an urgent appeal to private landlords to help provide accommodation. 'We are responsible for 30,000 asylum seekers in an ever-growing portfolio of 7,000 properties,' it chirruped during a national campaign last year. 'Our operation model is based on leasing from landlords, investors and property agents with Serco acting as the tenant.' According to the Home Office, nearly 70,000 migrants are already in private or council accommodation, which includes the properties found by the Daily Mail. Four townhouses for migrants have also come to light in a Suffolk village. They have been bought by the local council for £300,000 each and include ensuite bathrooms, underfloor heating and electric vehicle charging points. At one lovely bungalow in a seaside resort – sold in 2023 for £195,000 to Hong Kong investors when the owner, a pensioner, died – we found migrants living there for short periods before they are relocated by the Government. A neighbour said: 'Migrants were in there very recently. One man went out every day to work at the local car wash. This lovely bungalow was cared for by the pensioner, now it looks tired with the garden overgrown. The empty spells [between migrants] are wasted money because the landlord's rent has to be paid using our tax.' The upshot is that discontent is spreading. It is not only so-called Right-wing rabble-rousers and the women's protest group Pink Ladies who are demanding an end to the crisis. In Portsmouth, Reform councillors say 55 HMOs now house hundreds of migrants – even though the council was never informed about the migrants' existence by central government. The situation was only discovered when constituents complained to city hall that they were being evicted from their rental homes. An inquiry found landlords had signed lucrative contracts with government immigration housing providers – and got rid of their existing tenants to make way for the new arrivals. In Labour-run Basildon, Essex, the council has voted to rigorously vet all the HMOs on their patch. Highlighting public disquiet, council leader Gavin Callaghan wrote a hard-hitting article on the Socialist-leaning Left Foot Forward website warning that 'raw emotion' is sweeping working-class communities due to the 'unfair' policy of helping migrants jump the queue. He wrote that 'charlatan operators, including Mears, Serco and Clearsprings', are going 'door to door, asking private landlords to evict local families who have paid their rent for years so that their property can be converted into asylum-seeker HMOs. 'Overnight, a landlord can go from earning £22,000 to £60,000 a year in rent,' he said. A family of four or five can suddenly find themselves homeless. 'They turn up at the council, desperate,' said Cllr Callaghan. 'We stick them in temporary accommodation, often a single hotel room miles away from the schools, jobs and community they know. 'Meanwhile, they watch their family home handed over to six, seven, eight men who have just got off a small boat and are awaiting an asylum decision. If that doesn't make your blood boil, nothing will.' Link - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15070869/billions-spent-buying-flats-houses-asylum-seekers-special-report-SUE-REID.html So an Afghan asylum seeker can possibly bring his mum over because she doesn't like being made to wear a veil, he'll probably argue it's against her Islamic beliefs and human rights, our government will give sanctuary to the oppressed lady while watching thousands of women being told to wear the veil on our own streets. What will happen when a Muslim mayor demands the government back the hijab or veil in Islamic areas and force asylum seekers given asylum because they reject the veil to wear it here to conform with their British Islamic neighbors who do follow an extreme interpretation of Islam and Sharia Law like they do in Afghanistan? This situation is indefensible. We give sanctuary to people fleeing oppression from extreme Islam while giving extreme Islam a legally protected space in our society. Does that make sense to anybody? We are seeing the rise of extreme or ridiculous situations because of our laws and policies. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted September 6 Author Share Posted September 6 Saw this, putting it here. It's within the threads direction of ineptitude. In 2009, the paedophile, Jimmy Savile was interviewed under caution by police in Surrey and Sussex. Subsequently, the police referred 4 cases to the CPS alleging that Savile had raped at least three learning disabled girls under the age of 16. The CPS, after receiving the files from the police, refused to prosecute Savile, and dropped the claim, citing 'insufficient evidence'.. After Savile's death, and despite multiple attempts at high level cover ups, we now know he abused at least 500 known victims over a four decade period. Why am I sharing this with you? Why should you even be interested? Because the man in charge of the CPS at the time. The man that decided that there was 'insufficient evidence' to charge Saville, is now the 'leader' of the UK Labour government Party. 'Sir' Keir Starmer.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 23 hours ago, J47 said: astonished people on here still think, that people, are ashamed to fly their national flag when you can see quite the opposite these days, From my perspective it's the middle.class areas at least in south East England. In working class areas lots of England fans. More well to do areas more likely not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 5 hours ago, pi3141 said: The situation was only discovered when constituents complained to city hall that they were being evicted from their rental homes. An inquiry found landlords had signed lucrative contracts with government immigration housing providers – and got rid of their existing tenants to make way for the new arrivals. In Labour-run Basildon, Essex, the council has voted to rigorously vet all the HMOs on their patch. Highlighting public disquiet, council leader Gavin Callaghan wrote a hard-hitting article on the Socialist-leaning Left Foot Forward website warning that 'raw emotion' is sweeping working-class communities due to the 'unfair' policy of helping migrants jump the queue. He wrote that 'charlatan operators, including Mears, Serco and Clearsprings', are going 'door to door, asking private landlords to evict local families who have paid their rent for years so that their property can be converted into asylum-seeker HMOs. 'Overnight, a landlord can go from earning £22,000 to £60,000 a year in rent,' he said. This is the bit that people should be angry about - and it comes to something when this is being highlighted by a "left-wing socialist website". But the "working-class communities" complaining about mass immigration are all (supposedly) "far-right racist bigots" Any landlord that turfs out decent tenants - that pay their rent in full every month, and look after the property - so they can earn more in rental income from the government, is nothing more than a greedy traitor. And it should be no surprise to anyone why it is becoming increasingly difficult to find decent properties to rent, that aren't being offered to the market at extortionate rates. If I decided to move out of my current property, which I'm paying just over £600 a month for, I would be hard-pressed to find anything similar, that wasn't less than £1000 a month. In fact, I'm now in a position where I'd actually be better off buying a property! If you're stuck on a council waiting list, demanding a 'bigger property', while simultaneously waving your "refugees welcome" banner, then there is something wrong with you! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted September 6 Author Share Posted September 6 8 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said: This is the bit that people should be angry about - and it comes to something when this is being highlighted by a "left-wing socialist website". Yes I agree. I think this is being used to prop up a failing economy. House prices have been out of control for decades. Everyone believed they were getting wealthier. Well yes that was true, but if when the time comes to sell nobody can afford to buy your house, then what. We've seen the economics of outsourcing as a savior to a declining economy. That was false. We've seen property changed from a home to an income stream. Our economic wealth has been artificially inflated and now the best game in town is be a landlord for the government. The tax payer gives the government money and the government give it to outsourced councils, outsourced landlords and outsourced military and energy providers and outsourced council workers like dustbin collectors. Labour want more people to invest in stocks and shares to boost the economy and supplement our earnings. In other words we'll pay you a little bit but if you invest it with us you'll get a liveable wage. If you lose it..... We won’t own houses, rent it from a private landlord paid by the tax payer. If you own it put it in trust so you don't technically own it for tax purposes. Buy or rather lease your car on PPI. Pay per mile to drive. Which we already do because fuel is taxed, so the more you drive, the more tax you pay. There's nothing left to inflate, nothing left to outsource or sell off, not much left to tax. Houses can't get much more expensive and builders have used all the ways to make them cheap and barely suitable. If you buy a new home with garage, chances are you won't fit a car in the garage, cheaper to build them smaller but higher price for property if it has one. That's if you can buy the house, now they sell leasehold so they can claim it back and sell it again in the future. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 2 minutes ago, pi3141 said: House prices have been out of control for decades. Everyone believed they were getting wealthier. Well yes that was true, but if when the time comes to sell nobody can afford to buy your house, then what. We've seen the economics of outsourcing as a savior to a declining economy. That was false. We've seen property changed from a home to an income stream. Yes, I think we've been building up to the current situation for years now. I remember some time back, probably around the early 2000s, there was a 'fad' for, and a proliferation of companies offering homeowners the opportunity to "sell us your home for cash", which you would then continue to live in, through renting the property back from the new owner. There were other similar schemes for other things, I still to this day see the "Sell Your Car To Sam" adverts around Birmingham. And yes, I regret that houses are now seen as 'investment opportunities' or "assets", rather than "homes" that people can own and live in. Browsing through property listings myself, I see so many that start off with "calling all buy-to-let investors" and quoting "projected rental income yield" etc. Landlords and companies have been accumulating 'wealth' over the years through snapping up properties as they go onto the market. 3-5 bed 'family' homes are seen as ripe opportunities to convert into HMOs, thus increasing the amount of rent they can earn through cramming in as many tenants as they can. We're fast approaching a time where we're back in the middle ages where 'robber barons' owned all the properties, that were rented out to the 'serfs'. "You'll own nothing and you'll be happy" and all that! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_evans Posted September 6 Share Posted September 6 3 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: Yes, I think we've been building up to the current situation for years now. I remember some time back, probably around the early 2000s, there was a 'fad' for, and a proliferation of companies offering homeowners the opportunity to "sell us your home for cash", which you would then continue to live in, through renting the property back from the new owner. There were other similar schemes for other things, I still to this day see the "Sell Your Car To Sam" adverts around Birmingham. And yes, I regret that houses are now seen as 'investment opportunities' or "assets", rather than "homes" that people can own and live in. Browsing through property listings myself, I see so many that start off with "calling all buy-to-let investors" and quoting "projected rental income yield" etc. Landlords and companies have been accumulating 'wealth' over the years through snapping up properties as they go onto the market. 3-5 bed 'family' homes are seen as ripe opportunities to convert into HMOs, thus increasing the amount of rent they can earn through cramming in as many tenants as they can. We're fast approaching a time where we're back in the middle ages where 'robber barons' owned all the properties, that were rented out to the 'serfs'. "You'll own nothing and you'll be happy" and all that! The current one seems to be turning previoulsy rented (or owned) family homes into children's homes, as it avoids most of the newer regulations about tenants. Apparently, ofsted are getting worried about the number of unregistred children's homes, as the local Council can use unregistered homes if it wants to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted September 7 Author Share Posted September 7 13 hours ago, k_j_evans said: The current one seems to be turning previoulsy rented (or owned) family homes into children's homes, as it avoids most of the newer regulations about tenants. Apparently, ofsted are getting worried about the number of unregistred children's homes, as the local Council can use unregistered homes if it wants to. Capitalism. Always go after highest profit. It distorts our society. If it was used wisely we'd be ok, but they just can't help themselves. Look at Rayner, as soon as she had the chance, she abandoned her principles and sought out tax avoidance to grow her wealth. Starmer's free glasses. Erosion of workers rights to zero hour contracts and outsourced or agency personnel so the company has no obligations to its staff. Microsoft for instance, virtually all freelancers who sign away rights to code or solutions they invented and are on fixed term contracts with no guarantees. The drive for ever more profit over social and environmental cohesive policies is killing us all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted September 7 Author Share Posted September 7 Starmer to move migrants to military barracks to face down Farage threat 08:27, 07 Sep 2025, updated 12:36, 07 Sep 2025 By GREG HEFFER, POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT and CAMERON ROY iKeir Starmer is ready to move Channel migrants to former military barracks to ward off the threat posed by Nigel Farage. The Prime Minister has told his reshuffled Cabinet to 'go up a gear' after making sweeping changes to his ministerial ranks following Angela Rayner's resignation on Friday. Link - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15074065/Panicking-Keir-Starmer-ready-leave-Labour-MPs-feeling-queasy-human-rights-overhaul-asylum-seekers-barracks-bid-ward-Nigel-Farage-threat.html FFS Thousands of men of unknown backgrounds of fighting age to be put up in former military barracks, in other words, a stronghold. That's a clever idea. Some military guy in the states is saying extreme Islam is simple to understand, they want the destruction of Israel and a worldwide Islamic caliphate under Sharia Law, everybody converts to Islam or is put to death. It's a simple ideology that all Muslims are aware of. The conflict to force change is called Jihad and is a prophetic war among Muslim and infidels or unbelievers that they believe will happen. They just waiting for the signs like Christian rapturists to signal end times and the start of Jihad. Putting 100's of thousands of men with these beliefs in areas they can secure and defend is totally stupid. If China and Russia give the nod, Iran will declare Jihad and every Muslim in the world knows they are to forcefully conquer all infidels and unbelievers and instigate Islamic rule wherever they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted September 7 Author Share Posted September 7 Armed Forces called in to 'restore UK's borders' and close migrant hotels The Defence Secretary says the Armed Forces have been drafted in to help 'restore control of our borders'. By Michael Knowles, Home Affairs and Defence Editor 10:51, Sun, Sep 7, 2025 Updated: 14:39, Sun, Sep 7, 2025 Military planners are scrambling to find barracks to house asylum seekers and “accelerate” the closure of migrant hotels, John Healey has confirmed. The Defence Secretary said the Armed Forces have been drafted in to help “restore control of our borders”. Snip An estimated 1,000 people arrived in the UK by small boat over the course of yesterday (Saturday) and French authorities said 24 people were rescued while trying to cross the Channel. Link - https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/2105420/Migrants-hotel-asylum-seekers-Healey-Labour-crisis A 1000 people in a day. 365 days a year. They lost control of borders 4 or 5 years ago. It's been happening since 2014. Small numbers at first, with women and children. We remember the tragedies. Nobody argued if women and children were drowning trying to reach our shores, it meant they must need our help. Desperate for our help. Now it's all young men. 1000 a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 1 hour ago, pi3141 said: The Defence Secretary said the Armed Forces have been drafted in to help “restore control of our borders”. An estimated 1,000 people arrived in the UK by small boat over the course of yesterday (Saturday) and French authorities said 24 people were rescued while trying to cross the Channel. I don't suppose this means that the Royal Navy are going to be deployed to turn these boats around and stop them landing on our shores? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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