Campion Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 13 minutes ago, cosmicinaudio said: Many British people naively believe Indians are their friends, they don't know what they really think. Indians are more than happy to team up with their Pakistani and Bangladeshi ethnic kin when it involves their collective South Asian interests against the native English. Ok but at home India has its own communal conflicts and divide & rule is playing out there too. Of course people want to look after their own community interest first, tribalism and ingroup preference is a human instinct imo, which is why multiculturalism is so damaging. There's a thread about India here https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/34483-destabilizing-india/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted September 14 Author Share Posted September 14 58 minutes ago, Campion said: Tommy R supports multiculturalism and immigration, it's just Muslims he has a problem with, he supports Hindus and Hindutva. https://www.financialexpress.com/world-news/what-tommy-robinson-thinks-of-indians-as-he-leads-anti-immigration-protests-in-london/3977225/ To be honest, I've feel the same way. I got no problem with immigration. People from Africa, India or Somalia. I quoted an Afghan who wanted to bring his mum because she doesn't like the veil. Presumably they are moderate Muslims who reject the extreme interpretation being forced on them. I would welcome her to. Iranians fleeing what they view as extreme Islam. Welcome here. Syria has recently kicked out the Muslim Brotherhood as did Morocco. They won't tolerate this new (60-70years old) interpretation of Islam. I don't think Turkey do either. What we are seeing is either forced or planned. It's either extreme economic migration because of all the corruption associated with Oil industry and rulers of those lands. Or They are weaponizing immigration to change Europe and the west to an Islamic state which will either be achieved by sheer numbers or war. Its the fallout of decades of corrupt capitalism or religious / economic war by Russia, China and Iran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 (edited) Look how small we are compared with Africa. We can't possibly take in the persecuted people from all over the world and keep our own culture and way of life intact. I'd agree though that it's about using economic migration as a weapon against us, because there's plenty of large but poorer countries which don't discriminate against moderate Muslims. If anything, prioritise persecuted Anglos and Celts in the diaspora, and make Britain into a reservation for her own natives. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15031237/Africas-plan-redraw-world-map-55-nation-Union-calls-Equal-Earth-replace-misrepresent-continents-true-scale.html Edited September 14 by Campion 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 1 hour ago, pi3141 said: I got no problem with immigration. People from Africa, India or Somalia. I quoted an Afghan who wanted to bring his mum because she doesn't like the veil. Presumably they are moderate Muslims who reject the extreme interpretation being forced on them. I would welcome her to. Iranians fleeing what they view as extreme Islam. Welcome here. Does your approval of immigration apply to Israel too? As you're a supporter of Israel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted September 14 Author Share Posted September 14 46 minutes ago, Campion said: Does your approval of immigration apply to Israel too? As you're a supporter of Israel. In what way apply? If an Israeli wanted to emigrate here I wouldn't be against it If a Palestinian wanted to emigrate here I wouldn't be against it either, if they weren't radical Islam. I mean I draw the line at removing the entire British people and handing over the country to millions of foreigners, but in principle I have no issue with immigration at all. I still support Israel because they are fighting extreme Islam. It doesn't matter one bit to me now how they came to be there, Pogroms and Hitler were the main reasons for Jewish people ending up in Palestine. It was the violence and attacks they endured from other Arab nations using Palestine as a proxy that forced Israel to become occupiers. But now we see the new face of Islam that has been growing over the last 60-70 years and I say thank fuck for Israel fighting these extremists. You would rather hand over that middle eastern region to terrorists? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 12 hours ago, Campion said: Fair enough to want the government to go, but there's nothing new in them wanting to break the ordinary people who want to have a peaceful protest or live outside the system. I'm old enough to remember the battle of Orgreave and the battle of the Beanfield in the 80s which were under a conservative government squashing the hopes and dreams of the folk. But, this protest was billed as "Uniting the Union". Tommy R supports multiculturalism and immigration, it's just Muslims he has a problem with, he supports Hindus and Hindutva. https://www.financialexpress.com/world-news/what-tommy-robinson-thinks-of-indians-as-he-leads-anti-immigration-protests-in-london/3977225/ Just because Tommy Robinson is vocal though, his personal viewpoints don't negate the opinions of the circa 2,000,000 who turned up, or the many others who couldn't be there, but have voiced their concerns openly on public platforms. It's certainly not all about Tommy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 9 hours ago, pi3141 said: In what way apply? If an Israeli wanted to emigrate here I wouldn't be against it I mean should Israel have an open immigration policy like you are advocating for us? At the moment they strongly favour Jews immigrating over others. "Can anyone immigrate to Israel? The answer to that is no. Israel does not see itself as an immigration destination for the world and does not have a general immigration policy. Rather, Israeli immigration policy is based on being the homeland for the Jewish people. " https://lawoffice.org.il/en/israel-immigration-rules/ https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/israel-law-of-return-asylum-labor-migration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted September 15 Author Share Posted September 15 55 minutes ago, Campion said: I mean should Israel have an open immigration policy like you are advocating for us? At the moment they strongly favour Jews immigrating over others. "Can anyone immigrate to Israel? The answer to that is no. Israel does not see itself as an immigration destination for the world and does not have a general immigration policy. Rather, Israeli immigration policy is based on being the homeland for the Jewish people. " https://lawoffice.org.il/en/israel-immigration-rules/ https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/israel-law-of-return-asylum-labor-migration My god I'm not advocating an open immigration policy if that means mass immigration. That is totally against my thoughts. We should continue to be a safe haven for the oppressed and allow economic migrants, who will contribute to our economy in any form, cleaners, nurses, laborers and skilled workers. If your oppressed and need help or are able to contribute to society there is a case to allow immigration. But everyone coming must understand they have to integrate into our society. I suspect most young men arriving on small boats do not think that way. Islam's stated aim is a worldwide caliphate under sharia law. That is not integration. I believe it is instructed in the Koran that a Muslim living in a non Islamic country must respect the countries laws and traditions and they are allowed to participate. Until there are enough Muslims concentrated in that country and then it is their duty to call for and work towards converting that country or society to Islam . Unless it's end times, then it is absolutely the duty of every Muslim to fight to establish the global caliphate. Again, that is not integration. I do not support immigrants that do not want to integrate but rather take over our country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 hour ago, pi3141 said: I do not support immigrants that do not want to integrate but rather take over our country. Unfortunately though, it's us who are being 'integrated' into the hive mind of woke DEI and anyone protesting against it is labelled a far-right extremist racist. There's not even a distinction made between civic and ethno nationalists, they're all put into the same corner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cosmicinaudio Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 (edited) 16 hours ago, Campion said: Ok but at home India has its own communal conflicts and divide & rule is playing out there too. Of course people want to look after their own community interest first, tribalism and ingroup preference is a human instinct imo, which is why multiculturalism is so damaging. There's a thread about India here https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/34483-destabilizing-india/ An anti-immigration movement that is focused solely on stopping Muslim immigration is doomed to failure because banning people from one particular religion or race is just not happening. Either you stop all unskilled mass immigration into Britain or you allow all of it. A system where we still welcome hundreds of thousands non-Muslim Indian, African and Chinese economic migrants each year but completely ban Muslims is a fantasy. If you want the world to come and live and work in Britain, then you have to accept that Muslims are part of that world. Either you have open borders for everyone or you become isolationist and have very little immigration from anywhere. Picking and choosing based on religion and race in our current political and cultural system is unworkable. Trump tried it in America by banning immigrants from certain Muslim countries and the courts overturned it as unconstitutional, he had to give up on it. Edited September 15 by cosmicinaudio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 53 minutes ago, cosmicinaudio said: Picking and choosing based on religion and race in our current political and cultural system is unworkable. Well yes, as long as our leaders are globalists they won't restrict immigration. Israel manages it though, it's an ethno-nationalist country and yet somehow still manages to be a big ally of the west. While our own ethno-nationalists are called extremists. Why the exceptionalism? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talorgan Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 (edited) Well I think today's Trending here raised very important points about the march on Saturday , https://davidicke.com/2025/09/15/wasnt-this-meant-to-be-a-british-patriotic-march-trending-ep176/ Edited September 15 by Talorgan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamingeagle Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 https://davidicke.com/2025/09/15/no-answer/ Logic.........hard stuff to digest 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoScota Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 1 hour ago, Screamingeagle said: https://davidicke.com/2025/09/15/no-answer/ Logic.........hard stuff to digest This is the brainwashing that's working a treat. Kiss Is-nae-reals arse whilst they, in their own words, use islam as the broom to sweep the West. This old geezer doesn't know enough and even if you sat him down and went through it all, gave him Europa last battle etc, he would still call you a cunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoScota Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 22 hours ago, Campion said: Look how small we are compared with Africa. We can't possibly take in the persecuted people from all over the world and keep our own culture and way of life intact. I'd agree though that it's about using economic migration as a weapon against us, because there's plenty of large but poorer countries which don't discriminate against moderate Muslims. If anything, prioritise persecuted Anglos and Celts in the diaspora, and make Britain into a reservation for her own natives. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15031237/Africas-plan-redraw-world-map-55-nation-Union-calls-Equal-Earth-replace-misrepresent-continents-true-scale.html Kalergi Plan Supermarkets and energy companies reported some years ago now that judging by their data/consumptions, there was more like 90 million in UK than the official 60 odd million. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted September 15 Author Share Posted September 15 Keir Starmer's first 'one in, one out' migrant flight cancelled after legal threats The first deportation of a Channel migrant under Sir Keir Starmer's "one in, one out" deal with France was cancelled at the last minute. By Steph Spyro, Deputy Political Editor 21:22, Mon, Sep 15, 2025 Updated: 21:26, Mon, Sep 15, 2025 Keir Starmer's first migrant flight under the "one in one out" scheme was cancelled at the last minute because of legal threats. One migrant was set to be flown from Heathrow to Paris on an Air France passenger flight on Monday but the flight was postponed amid protests by charities and threats of legal action, the Telegraph reported. The Home Office is understood to be planning to put him on another flight on Tuesday, with the French authorities preparing to accommodate him in a hotel in Roissy-en-France, in the north-eastern suburbs of Paris. British and French charities have launched a campaign to bombard Air France with phone calls, emails and social media messages urging them “not to agree to collaborate with the interior ministry and not to agree to deport these people on these flights”. A spokesman for Auberge des Migrants, a charity that supports migrants in northern France, said: “There were a lot of people who responded to this campaign and agreed to send emails asking for this collaboration with the Government to be stopped.” Lawyers are also advising many of the 90 Channel migrants who have been detained since the beginning of August ready for their enforced return to France. The Home Office has to give “generous” time extensions to the migrants to take legal advice on challenging their deportation as a result of a ruling against the Tory government’s thwarted Rwanda deportation scheme. Lawyers told the Telegraph said this suggested the legal process was taking longer than anticipated by the Government. Instead of a single charter flight carrying a significant group of migrants, the Home Office has opted for daily commercial flights of smaller numbers. Some 100 migrants were detained on arrival into the UK at the start of August before their names and details were passed to the French for approval. Most are understood to be from countries with high asylum grant rates but also those accounting for the highest number of crossings including Eritrea, Afghanistan and Sudan. Lawyers believe their cases could be challenged under their rights to a family life under article eight of the European Convention of Human Rights if they have relatives in the UK. Cases could be lodged on the grounds that they have been trafficked or suffer mental ill health. As part of the agreement, a similar number of asylum seekers from France will come to the UK. The first flight into Britain is scheduled for Saturday. Link - https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/2108924/migrants-small-boats-france-crossing From the article - Lawyers believe their cases could be challenged under their rights to a family life under article eight of the European Convention of Human Rights if they have family in UK. Why? They are not European citizens. Why does the EHCR apply to non Eurooeans? If this was International Law, there would be a case. It seems there is tenously a case IF they have family. But ultimately these charities, lawyers and our European governments are choosing to allow our legal rights as citizens of our countries to immediately be transferred to anyone who lands on our shores. Why? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitochondrial Eve Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 This isn't an entirely serious post but the video below by Alan Buttle (?) piqued my interest because it's an original theory with some entertainment value. Maybe it's because I remember the original, classic The Omen film from my youth especially after the piss take of the Damian devil-child in Only Fools and Horses. Tommy Robinson's current choice of profile picture on X is curious especially when he must have thousands to pick from. Why would he choice one that is somewhat spoiled? This guy's theory is that Robinson's photo resembles those taken by the photographer in The Omen which were prescient in revealing upcoming execution methods of those to fall victim to the devil-child Damian and his protectors. He therefore speculates quite wildly, especially within the context of the Christian undercurrent running alongside the Robinson narrative, that perhaps Robinson will be killed off and we are being given the sign. If Robinson was assassinated, would all hell break loose with a religiously-motivated agenda furthered? For those not familiar with the film, I have timestamped below from the scene where the photographer takes a picture of the priest who repeatedly warns about Damian and meets a gruesome end with a spike being blasted off a church by lightning during a storm and impaling him (watch through to 45 minutes). The photographs of him became increasingly distorted nearer the the time of his death and other characters' pictures also do too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 Mr Khan stiring the pot today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Mr H said: Mr Khan stiring the pot today Cheeky, gas-lighting, forked tongue so&so. Edited September 16 by Tinfoil Hat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1velocity7 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 far right means fk all now as its been used so much 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagdog19 Posted September 16 Share Posted September 16 4 hours ago, Mitochondrial Eve said: This isn't an entirely serious post but the video below by Alan Buttle (?) piqued my interest because it's an original theory with some entertainment value. Maybe it's because I remember the original, classic The Omen film from my youth especially after the piss take of the Damian devil-child in Only Fools and Horses. Tommy Robinson's current choice of profile picture on X is curious especially when he must have thousands to pick from. Why would he choice one that is somewhat spoiled? This guy's theory is that Robinson's photo resembles those taken by the photographer in The Omen which were prescient in revealing upcoming execution methods of those to fall victim to the devil-child Damian and his protectors. He therefore speculates quite wildly, especially within the context of the Christian undercurrent running alongside the Robinson narrative, that perhaps Robinson will be killed off and we are being given the sign. If Robinson was assassinated, would all hell break loose with a religiously-motivated agenda furthered? For those not familiar with the film, I have timestamped below from the scene where the photographer takes a picture of the priest who repeatedly warns about Damian and meets a gruesome end with a spike being blasted off a church by lightning during a storm and impaling him (watch through to 45 minutes). The photographs of him became increasingly distorted nearer the the time of his death and other characters' pictures also do too. Well, if I was an evil cunt I would do the same. Totally plausible. (I actually posted about his 'alter ego Wayne Kempson' a few days ago ). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted September 17 Author Share Posted September 17 Sarah Pochin MP asked if Sharia Law and Sharia Courts should be recognized in law. Labour MP Sarah Sackman responded they should by allowed as part of religious tolerance which is a British value. Basically the Labour government argued for the right for Sharia Courts to operate in UK. She argued Jewish and Christian people can choose a court of faith, therefore so should Muslims be allowed to. Thing is, Christian values align with our society. A Muslim Woman could be taken to Sharia Court, say for adultery, and the ruling death by stoning, can be carried out abroad. This in not in line with our values. Similarly Sharia Courts have been criticized for not protecting women being abused. The MP says people can choose to go to these Courts of Faith, but come on, does she really believe a Muslim woman suffering abuse will choose to go to Sharia Court and not a UK court? No, she will be ordered, coerced or forced to go to Sharia Court by family and community members for an Islamic trial, because we infidels don't understand Islamic laws and they won't want dirty laundry aired in British Courts. If a Muslim Woman doesn't want to wear a Burkha that her husband is forcing her to wear, going to a UK court will rule in her favour, going to Sharia Court they will automatically enforce their erroneous belief that she should wear it. So again, the husband, family and community members will force her to go to Sharia. If she walks away from Islam, it's the death penalty for apostasy. What guarantees can the MP Sarah Sackman give that a woman will not be forced or coerced to go to Sharia Court and can instead choose UK courts. What guarantees can the MP give that the husband will obey the UK ruling and not at some point in the future take her to another country under the guise of a holiday to be murdered in keeping with Sharia Law? She can give absolutely none. Therefore I accuse the Labour government of enabling abuse and oppression under the excuse of Religious tolerance. It's disgusting. To any Muslim woman being pushed into these extreme Islamic beliefs by family or husband can look to our government of fairness, justice and tolerance and realize, there is no help for them. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagdog19 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 The late great Tom Horn predicted 2025 a few years back. The Golden Age... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagdog19 Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 On 9/15/2025 at 8:23 AM, Campion said: I mean should Israel have an open immigration policy like you are advocating for us? At the moment they strongly favour Jews immigrating over others. "Can anyone immigrate to Israel? The answer to that is no. Israel does not see itself as an immigration destination for the world and does not have a general immigration policy. Rather, Israeli immigration policy is based on being the homeland for the Jewish people. " https://lawoffice.org.il/en/israel-immigration-rules/ https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/israel-law-of-return-asylum-labor-migration Keras@ Christian Forum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoScota Posted September 17 Share Posted September 17 47 minutes ago, wagdog19 said: Keras@ Christian Forum Other passages mention how the synagogue of satan will have their arse handed to them. But I don't think that will be directly from FatherMother God/Yeshua. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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