Orange Alert Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 Nato Chief says Russia could attack by 2030. We will have to get ready to speak Russian if we don't spend 5% of GDP on defence. We will still have the NHS and pensions at 3.5% but will have to learn to Russian does that mean the NHS and pensions will have to go to pay for a proper war?  I won't be getting involved in the "Elite's" war. I would not even make the sandwiches for the troops, so I better get a copy of this book from Penguin.    Spend more or get ready to speak Russian, Nato chief warns UK  Mark Rutte, Nato secretary general, warned that Russia could attack Nato by 2030 Credit: Toby Melville/Reuters  People in Britain had “better learn to speak Russian” if the Government does not ramp up defence spending, Mark Rutte has suggested. Asked by The Telegraph if Rachel Reeves should increase taxes to fund a defence budget of 5 per cent of GDP, Mr Rutte said that Nato members “better learn to speak Russian” if they could not commit to more spending. “If you do not go to the 5 per cent, including the 3.5 per cent for defence spending, you could still have the NHS…the pension system, but you better learn to speak Russian. That’s the consequence,” he said after a speech in London. Mr Rutte, who met Sir Keir Starmer in Downing Street on Monday, also warned that Russia could attack Nato by 2030.  Full article. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/06/09/russia-ukraine-zelensky-putin-nato-war-latest-news/  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 On 6/8/2025 at 12:20 AM, Observations said:  The UK's armed forces must move to "war-fighting readiness" over the coming years, the UK faces a "more serious and immediate" threat than anytime since the Cold War, and "every citizen must play their part"  https://news.sky.com/story/strategic-defence-review-the-key-question-sir-keir-starmer-failed-to-answer-13378208?dicbo=v2-YrhOwlr   21 hours ago, Orange Alert said: Spend more or get ready to speak Russian, Nato chief warns UK  Mark Rutte, Nato secretary general, warned that Russia could attack Nato by 2030 Credit: Toby Melville/Reuters  People in Britain had “better learn to speak Russian” if the Government does not ramp up defence spending, Mark Rutte has suggested. Asked by The Telegraph if Rachel Reeves should increase taxes to fund a defence budget of 5 per cent of GDP, Mr Rutte said that Nato members “better learn to speak Russian” if they could not commit to more spending. “If you do not go to the 5 per cent, including the 3.5 per cent for defence spending, you could still have the NHS…the pension system, but you better learn to speak Russian. That’s the consequence,” he said after a speech in London. Mr Rutte, who met Sir Keir Starmer in Downing Street on Monday, also warned that Russia could attack Nato by 2030.  Full article. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2025/06/09/russia-ukraine-zelensky-putin-nato-war-latest-news/   I've seen this kind of rhetoric before, and I'm sure I'm not the only person who sees this as blatant social engineering and fear-mongering.  The only people that 'benefit' from increased 'defence spending' are the multi-national globalist-controlled arms manufacturers. As well as the big globalist multi-national corporations when they seize control of natural resources.  World War 3 is already happening, it has been for several years now. But it doesn't require 'boots on the ground', it is using digital and technological means, it's all psychological.  Russia doesn't need to fire missiles at Europe to 'bring it to its knees', it just needs to cut off the gas supply... oh wait, we did that ourselves.  I remember reading about the same rhetoric used during World War 2, "if we don't beat Hitler, then we'll all be speaking German" etc.  It's all about softening up the public to accept tax increases and further cuts to public services "so we can defend ourselves against Putin". 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piero Posted June 10 Share Posted June 10 We had better learn to speak Russian?  Professor Tim Wilson   1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1velocity7 Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 normies cant prepare cos they can never see it. then when it happens normies will be begging their gov to save them and the gov will give them a one way ticket to ukraine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piero Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, 1velocity7 said: normies cant prepare cos they can never see it. then when it happens normies will be begging their gov to save them and the gov will give them a one way ticket to ukraine How are you preparing for it?  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Slayer Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 1 hour ago, Piero said: How are you preparing for it? Â Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piero Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 2 minutes ago, Dragon Slayer said: Â That's a start! Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Slayer Posted June 12 Share Posted June 12 2 minutes ago, Piero said: That's a start! Â Where's the Vodka? Let's celebrate! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piero Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 9 minutes ago, Dragon Slayer said: Where's the Vodka? Let's celebrate! Trololo! Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Slayer Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 10 minutes ago, Piero said: Trololo! Â You're a Putin sympathizer like Trump aren't you. Aren't you!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piero Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 18 minutes ago, Dragon Slayer said: You're a Putin sympathizer like Trump aren't you. Aren't you!? I can feel a Kalinka coming on! Â 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1velocity7 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 7 hours ago, Piero said: How are you preparing for it?  done mate prepared long time ago if i go down its gonna be at the doorstep to my property  mind you bionic face shields was a new one on me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1velocity7 Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 just to cheer you up   1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazthehobo Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 “The futures uncertain and the end is always near…”  Best way to sell popcorn is to attract everyone to the main event.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14808217/Iran-Israel-airstrikes-salami-nuclear.html  Scary headline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 (edited) 12 hours ago, 1velocity7 said: just to cheer you up   Thanks for this. Must say he is a weasel this Andrew gold bloke "how would you describe the "native population". How about white Anglo-Saxon? I almost felt sorry for him after Katie hotkins tore him a new one but he deserved it. Feeble. And for a relatively young 37 38 year old? His about 10 years out of date. Interesting listening to the guest though. Edited June 13 by Fluke 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted June 13 Share Posted June 13 3 hours ago, Fluke said: Thanks for this. Must say he is a weasel this Andrew gold bloke "how would you describe the "native population". How about white Anglo-Saxon? I almost felt sorry for him after Katie hotkins tore him a new one but he deserved it. Feeble. And for a relatively young 37 38 year old? His about 10 years out of date. Interesting listening to the guest though.  Haven't had a chance to watch the video yet. But the quote that "Civil war is coming" gets me rolling my eyes. Regarding England in particular, we've been multicultural for centuries including the majority Anglo-Saxons, plus some Celts, Vikings, Normans and Huguenots etc. Why would we need any more diversity than that? When the Normans came here as the conquerors they brought in the globalist mentality with their nobility and it's been a civil war between the globalists (ie imperialists) and the local nativists / tribalists (or nationalists and little Englanders) ever since. It was only after the so-called 'British Empire' was closed down and the US sponsored New World Order came out into the open that it became clear that it was globalists all along. That it was never the British Empire or French Empire etc, but global imperialism of the brotherhood vs all the local natives and tribes; it just happened to have major headquarters in certain places like London. This is why the white English have had such an internal conflict or civil war between globalist minded supporters of the uniparty (including progressives on the left and capitalists on the right) and the locals who just want to keep their own country for themselves. It is for the most part white people oppressing other whites who are trying to stand up for their traditional culture. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 10 hours ago, Campion said: Haven't had a chance to watch the video yet. But the quote that "Civil war is coming" gets me rolling my eyes.  It's all about getting people to 'take sides', even if any conflict doesn't involve you (directly).  Take for example the following which I have just come across on X/Twitter/Muskbook:   I may be from the UK, but I can assure you that I do not 'stand with Israel', and neither am I backing or supporting Iran.  I stand with 'humanity', not the warmongers. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 (edited) On 6/14/2025 at 12:45 AM, Campion said:  Haven't had a chance to watch the video yet. But the quote that "Civil war is coming" gets me rolling my eyes. Regarding England in particular, we've been multicultural for centuries including the majority Anglo-Saxons, plus some Celts, Vikings, Normans and Huguenots etc. Why would we need any more diversity than that? When the Normans came here as the conquerors they brought in the globalist mentality with their nobility and it's been a civil war between the globalists (ie imperialists) and the local nativists / tribalists (or nationalists and little Englanders) ever since. It was only after the so-called 'British Empire' was closed down and the US sponsored New World Order came out into the open that it became clear that it was globalists all along. That it was never the British Empire or French Empire etc, but global imperialism of the brotherhood vs all the local natives and tribes; it just happened to have major headquarters in certain places like London. This is why the white English have had such an internal conflict or civil war between globalist minded supporters of the uniparty (including progressives on the left and capitalists on the right) and the locals who just want to keep their own country for themselves. It is for the most part white people oppressing other whites who are trying to stand up for their traditional culture. Excellent post with lots to ponder. I'm not sure we've always been "multicultural" at least not in the popular sense. My understanding of the normans is if that obviously there are nuances and lots of other variables involved.  As for Andrew gold he is a milquetoast and weak and he still hasn't recovered after Katie hoptkins tore him to shreds. I don't like hoptkins, she's a spiteful cow. But I respect her. I certainly wouldn't want to interview her, but Andrew gold should have had the humility to take on board what she was saying. This isn't 2014/15 own the libs and watch Peterson time. Parts of the UK are resembling third world countries and some very serious people are warning of civil unrest or even a war in our own homeland and this gold fella says in the interview "how did you avoid insults from the left". Absolute drip.  As for bombs landing in England it's more fear-mongering. I'm certainly not going to lose any sleep over it. Life's too short. Heard it all before. If It happens it happens. Edited June 14 by Fluke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted June 14 Share Posted June 14 13 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: It's all about getting people to 'take sides', even if any conflict doesn't involve you (directly).  I'm not sure this is the case in terms of the issues at home in UK or indeed other European countries having their cultures change due to a largely imposed demographic change (I know this is not the thread for that.) although having said that, it might be. It does seem to me that they are goading for civil unrest. I don't believe it's incompetence, although I do think Starmer is incompetent. Blair was evil but he could speak to the nation, even if he was scum too. This Starmer specimen I think is a liability to the globalists.  13 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: I may be from the UK, but I can assure you that I do not 'stand with Israel', and neither am I backing or supporting Iran.  I stand with 'humanity', not the warmongers. Exactly my sentiment too. Same with Ukraine and Russia. All I see is Europeans arguing about foreign wars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted June 15 Share Posted June 15 21 hours ago, Fluke said: Exactly my sentiment too. Same with Ukraine and Russia. All I see is Europeans arguing about foreign wars.  Whilst overlooking how badly they are being treated by their own governments! Massive distractions! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryan Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 I'll stick my neck out and say I'm on Iran's side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Crabtree Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 On 6/16/2025 at 12:16 PM, bryan said: I'll stick my neck out and say I'm on Iran's side. The Iranians are good at beheadings, so don't stick it out too far in case it leads to temptation on their part! IRANIAN MAN GETS SEVEN YEARS FOR BEHEADING HIS SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD WIFE! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 14 hours ago, Mr Crabtree said: The Iranians are good at beheadings, so don't stick it out too far in case it leads to temptation on their part! IRANIAN MAN GETS SEVEN YEARS FOR BEHEADING HIS SEVENTEEN YEAR OLD WIFE! Don't worry about Bryan. His bloody off his ed'. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted June 18 Share Posted June 18 (edited) I'm putting my money on Israel and America. Perhaps if it escalates I could see it being a draw. Pakistan are quite good at defending actually so they'll be tough to breakdown. I think if Israel go on the offensive and go route one, they'll do a pretty good job. Again, as a neutral it's going to be incredibly facinating to see.   Edited June 18 by Fluke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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