Fluke Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 2 hours ago, 2020member said: It’s insane how quick the public stop asking questions as soon as they see “white British” It's not just that though you've got to remember people were locked up last year for far less so people are uneasy about speculating. As far as I'm aware most terrorist attacks of the islamic nature are committed by foreign imports or second generation foreigners. So far. My first thought was it was a terrorist attack, I guess it's because I'm a bigot who has no pattern recognition. I do actually know there's been lots of cars that seem to be driving themselves into large crowds in Europe. I don't know why, and I can't think what's different or what's changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 14 minutes ago, Campion said: Asked if he would like to see similar details released by police forces in the future in similar cases, Starmer said: “That is a matter for the police and the investigation is ongoing so I think we need to leave that to them." " He is an absolute coward. Such an evil weak treacherous creature. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassady77 Posted May 28 Share Posted May 28 1 hour ago, EnigmaticWorld said: More important things than putting Shankly on a pedestal. I don't give a damn about pro sports or celebs, sorry. I grew up supporting Liverpool but I didn't understand poiltics then. I can't stand them or sportsball these days, they're way too leftist and Liverpool fans are way too deracinated. The cult of the "footeh" needs to die, especially in Liverpool. https://www.tiktok.com/@amastar268/video/7498739115282795798 This isn't a purity spiral, I'm not telling others what to watch, but I simply don't care for the game anymore. Didn't we both speak about this a,few years ago ? Iam sure we did . I do get what you are saying as I emotionally walked away from it years ago. However I will always want Liverpool to win things and that is that . It makes people I love happy so that's good enough for me . What I find really weird is they way some people see a ' conspiracy ' everywhere and ' join the dots ' when most of the time there are no dots to join. It's all about balance lad . Take it easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sit down, Waldo Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 So he's been named. Local guy, kids, not drug or alcohol related looking at the charges...just doesn't add up. Will he have a link to the BBC somewhere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020member Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 20 hours ago, Cassady77 said: Didn't we both speak about this a,few years ago ? Iam sure we did . I do get what you are saying as I emotionally walked away from it years ago. However I will always want Liverpool to win things and that is that . It makes people I love happy so that's good enough for me . What I find really weird is they way some people see a ' conspiracy ' everywhere and ' join the dots ' when most of the time there are no dots to join. It's all about balance lad . Take it easy. Sound like we need Richard D Hall on the case to do a full expose, like he did with the Jo Cox, brexit, far right patsy killer!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazthehobo Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 On 5/26/2025 at 10:02 PM, 1velocity7 said: bbc Im sure I read somewhere that he is “white” and “British”. A white British man was arrested. He is a white British former marine. He is a 53 year old white British male. He had three children who all can boast to having a white British father. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluke Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 3 hours ago, Mazthehobo said: Im sure I read somewhere that he is “white” and “British”. A white British man was arrested. He is a white British former marine. He is a 53 year old white British male. He had three children who all can boast to having a white British father. White male? First I've heard his white. Are we sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassady77 Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 4 hours ago, 2020member said: Sound like we need Richard D Hall on the case to do a full expose, like he did with the Jo Cox, brexit, far right patsy killer!! I have no idea who they are and what you mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
factJack Posted May 29 Share Posted May 29 ex forces eh? 3 hours ago, Mazthehobo said: He is a white British former marine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamingeagle Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 6 hours ago, Cassady77 said: I have no idea who they are and what you mean. https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/29549-richard-d-hall/#comment-459082 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagdog19 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 Interesting take on it, worth a read. https://miriaf.co.uk/riding-the-waves-of-deception/ 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occulus5 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 13 hours ago, 2020member said: Sound like we need Richard D Hall on the case to do a full expose, like he did with the Jo Cox, brexit, far right patsy killer!! That's what I've been thinking. Hall would normally be all over something like that this. I'm guessing because of the Manchester arena attack legal case he's reluctant to talk about this kind of thing now. In is latest show he was talking about the free energy device he's making. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020member Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 11 hours ago, Cassady77 said: I have no idea who they are and what you mean. Hi 77brigade If you’re on this forum and have no idea what i mean by my post. Then i strongly suggest you bring yourself up to speed with Rich D Hall & also brexit Jo Cox staged killing. This is bread & butter 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassady77 Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 (edited) 1 hour ago, 2020member said: Hi 77brigade If you’re on this forum and have no idea what i mean by my post. Then i strongly suggest you bring yourself up to speed with Rich D Hall & also brexit Jo Cox staged killing. This is bread & butter Oh dear ! It was the year Liverpool first won the European Cup . Think what you like though and enjoy every second of it. Ta ra. Edited May 30 by Cassady77 Mistake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAARPING_On Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/13376881/liverpool-title-parade-paul-doyle-53-remanded-in-custody-after-liverpool-magistrates-court-appearance-charged-with-seven-serious-offences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northern star Posted May 30 Share Posted May 30 8 hours ago, wagdog19 said: Interesting take on it, worth a read. https://miriaf.co.uk/riding-the-waves-of-deception/ Good article and a lot of truth in it. As soon as I saw the grainy footage, it looked as if someone had grabbed a life-size doll dressed to look like a supporter and thrown it at the bonnet of the car. Could be wrong, but the whole thing could easily have been a set up, that was the first impression - a film set with crisis actors. Why no other footage from the event from mobile phones, or people interviewed about it? It all seems very well controlled for such a chaotic situation. The problem-reaction-solution could indeed be sending a message, via the Andrew Lawrence uproar, to silence free speech, as it is with Lucy Connolly. And yes they do love the name Lucy for their operatives - link to their Luciferian cult perhaps? Their plans dont always work though - her paragraph: The ruling classes want a war in Afghanistan? Rather than forcing the populace to comply with what would otherwise have been a deeply unpopular initiative, they instead staged a "terror attack" to manufacture the masses' consent for it. The masses didnt consent to it, they took to the streets in their millions to oppose the war that followed. And now there is mass suspicion over any event they present to us. They've created an environment where they have little to no credibility any more, and parts of the so-called alternative media, which they also control, are following closely behind, playing their part, to cover all bases. If this was a real event with real people, it smacks of MK Ultra sleeper cell activity, where the man was triggered to behave in an uncharacteristic way. Given his past in the military, it could be a possibility. The outcome of all these events is to try and frighten people into silence. These posts prove it. Occulus5 Posted 8 hours ago 22 hours ago, 2020member said: Sound like we need Richard D Hall on the case to do a full expose, like he did with the Jo Cox, brexit, far right patsy killer!! That's what I've been thinking. Hall would normally be all over something like that this. I'm guessing because of the Manchester arena attack legal case he's reluctant to talk about this kind of thing now. In is latest show he was talking about the free energy device he's making. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbcritic Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 With male pattern baldness Without male pattern baldness(??) The guy in the car(??) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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2020member Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 If anyone is interested this YouTube video has some sterling commentary on the comments section. Highlights: 1- hooded individual wearing gloves removes number plate shortly after vehicles wheels become stuck on bodies 2- all cell / mobile signal cut moments after vehicle ram attack 3- MSM interviews no-one at ‘ground zero’. Unlike southport where ‘heroes’ were interviewed in full HD straight after events. 4- driver never flinches and look in trance like state never deviating from the task. He initially tailgates an emergency ambulance into the crowds. 5- were the blue lights and sirens the trigger for his MK ultra programming to then attack? 6- everyone now has mini super computers in their pockets. Yet only grainy footage akin to a 2005 mobile phones footage has surfaced?? https://youtu.be/33qSm8CERyk 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piero Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 Before the driver puts his foot down into the crowd, various people aggressively and repeatedly kick and thump the car with their fists. What I'd like to know is, will any of these people face public disorder charges? To what extent did these violent acts cause the driver to accelerate into the crowd? Scenes in this video have been blurred out, but some may still find the footage distressing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassady77 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 6 hours ago, dumbcritic said: Also It's funny it should say Boyle as a mate who goes the match and was at the Strand on Monday called me to say his name is Paul Boyle and even told me what close he lives in. My mate also lives in West Derby and it's were I went to school in the 80's. May mate told us about 20 hours before his name was released . It's a bit weird how now his name has become Doyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassady77 Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 What I also find weird is people were filming it and including when people opened the car doors . The next bit of footage is him getting thrown into a bizzie van in which you can't see him. Why no footage of him going from the car to the van ? If there is I ain't seen it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 1 hour ago, Piero said: Before the driver puts his foot down into the crowd, various people aggressively and repeatedly kick and thump the car with their fists. What I'd like to know is, will any of these people face public disorder charges? To what extent did these violent acts cause the driver to accelerate into the crowd? Scenes in this video have been blurred out, but some may still find the footage distressing. That's irrelevant. The defense case will be that after caring for orphaned puppies at the animal shelter he went out of his way to get a soy latte, served in a biodegradable cup, when he was confronted by a group of vicious football hooligans who, unprovoked, attacked his car. Fearing for his safety he headed for the nearest safe space (university). Thinking one of the would-be assailants was armed with a zucchini he accelerated away, in a spirited yet still workplace health and safety conscious manner, from the scene ... The fact that he is a Manchester United supporter is just a coincidence ... The other people don't need to be charged for the defense to be available. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piero Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 (edited) 3 hours ago, SoundOfSilence said: That's irrelevant. The defense case will be that after caring for orphaned puppies at the animal shelter he went out of his way to get a soy latte, served in a biodegradable cup, when he was confronted by a group of vicious football hooligans who, unprovoked, attacked his car. Fearing for his safety he headed for the nearest safe space (university). Thinking one of the would-be assailants was armed with a zucchini he accelerated away, in a spirited yet still workplace health and safety conscious manner, from the scene ... The fact that he is a Manchester United supporter is just a coincidence ... The other people don't need to be charged for the defense to be available. The question I raised was rhetorical, and I didn't claim anyone has to be charged for such a defence to be made available, but as far as defences go, there could be several, including, as you suggest that he'd just had a soy latte and was heading for the refuge of a university, etc., but seriously, in mitigating circumstances, his defence counsel may claim he felt threatened, tried to put his foot on the brake peddle, but panicking, put his foot on the accelerator by mistake, and then panicked more in the ensuing pandemonium and mayhem, whereupon he finally put his foot on the brake peddle, coming to an abrupt stop, and of course, they may also claim he has any number of medical/psychological conditions that might have contributed to the tragedy. There could be many factors we're unaware of, so until it all comes out in court, at this point, it is all just speculation. Edited May 31 by Piero Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piero Posted May 31 Share Posted May 31 (edited) In the UK, there have been several cases where drivers have claimed to have accidentally pressed the accelerator instead of the brake, leading to serious or fatal incidents. The circumstances under which the wrong peddle is pressed is known as Peddle Application Error (PAE). It’s well documented. For example, Transport for London has made a study of the phenomenon: https://content.tfl.gov.uk/pedal-application-error-on-london-buses-2023.pdf Pedal Application Error on London Buses Executive Summary Pedal Application Error (PAE) is a phenomenon where drivers mistakenly press the accelerator when they have an honest belief that they are pressing the brake, resulting in unintended and uncontrolled acceleration with a high collision risk. It may also occur in the reverse with unintended brake depression instead of acceleration, resulting in harsh braking. It can occur in any vehicle. Based on recorded events per km driven by London’s buses, it appears to be a rare event, but it may be significantly under-reported because of poor understanding or recognition of the phenomenon, particularly if it occurs but does not result in a collision. Transport for London (TfL) has recognised the occurrence of this problem in a number of collision incidents involving the London bus fleet and is investigating potential causes and possible solutions. Pedal application error has also been referred to under several different terms such as pedal confusion and sudden unintended acceleration. [...] 5.1 General considerations of the human factors evidence It is unclear why pedal application error events persist for a time, sometimes quite a long time, after the initial error and/or why they cannot be resolved by the driver. Three potential explanations were identified in the literature: · Perceptual narrowing (sometimes referred to as ‘tunnelling’) can occur due to the panic brought on by unintended acceleration. This tends to focus the driver’s attention on the features causing the panic and can lead to a decrease in the ability of a driver to process other information. This means that simple and effective actions which would be clear to any driver not under such stress (such as trying another pedal, taking their foot off the pedal or applying the handbrake), are not taken because the stress narrows the driver’s focus to the action(s) already being undertaken such as pressing the pedal harder and/or steering to avoid obstacles (Schmidt, 1989) o Panic is often seen as the most convincing reason behind the persistence of pedal application errors and is often referred to as ‘hypervigilance’ within the research community. It is commonly broken into three stages: Pedal application error causes a sudden and uncontrolled acceleration that cannot be prevented. This represents a very strong stimulus, which may or may not be linked with other factors such as increased engine noise (likely less of a factor for bus drivers with the engine at the rear of the vehicle or using electric vehicles). o The stimulus is perceived as life threatening. Drivers perceive that unintended/uncontrolled acceleration resulting in a collision is likely to have severe consequences for themselves and others. o The time in which those severe consequences will occur is likely to be short. · Habitual response under stress can explain why a driver continues pressing an accelerator pedal they believe to be a brake pedal. Habitual, well-practiced responses are learned through daily driving (for example hard braking for typical responses in traffic) and work well in ‘normal’ cases. However, in unusual and stressful cases (where panic is also involved) the habitual response may not be the correct one. Edited May 31 by Piero 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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