Grumpy Grapes Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 (edited) The Indian government says it has launched an attack on nine sites in Pakistan and Pakistan-administered Kashmir https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cwyneele13qt Edited May 6 by Grumpy Grapes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 Excellent! Just when it looks like Trump may be getting the Middle East under control these lunatics start lobbing missiles at each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_evans Posted May 6 Share Posted May 6 14 minutes ago, Grumpy Grapes said: The Indian government says it has launched an attack on nine sites in Pakistan and Pakistan-administered Kashmir https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cwyneele13qt Well, it's all our fault, we should never have made India into two countries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Just been talking to a friend who is from India. Near the border with Lahore. According to him there was a terrorist attack carried out by Pakistan. Jihadis attacked bases in the region. That is what India responded to with missile strikes targeting the bases from where the attacks were launched. Then Pakistan responded to the attack. India has now cut Pakistan's water supply. Well 2 of the 3 rivers that flow into Pakistan. He agreed that cutting off the water supply was an act of war and that India would not be able to maintain that stance for long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack121 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Warfare, the new normal. it's everywhere and always will be. Nothing more than a way to kill off working class people and make a lot of money out of it at the same time - so old so boring so predictable, one fake crisis after another Probably india and pakistan are best friends with each other and they both continue this fake show of aggression - then milk that gravy train Same as " US hates Russia " when they are actually best friends and controlled by the same banking system - use that as an excuse to spend billions on " Protecting you from those commies " When are these scammers gong to find a new scam that is not so obviously transparent 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 2 hours ago, jack121 said: When are these scammers gong to find a new scam that is not so obviously transparent When it stops working. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recluse52 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 just when a trade deal with uk/india is done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 16 hours ago, k_j_evans said: Well, it's all our fault, we should never have made India into two countries It's strange how the ptb over here (not "us") allow ethnic/religious nation states elsewhere in the world such as the Indian subcontinent, middle east, Balkans etc but here in western Europe we have to be multicultural. Even Ireland was partitioned on religious and ethnic grounds back in the 1920s but now they all have to get along together, plus immigrants from wherever. It's as if they'll impose multiculturalism where they have the power to do so, but if the backlash and conflict is too strong they give in (temporarily) until they can carry on the deracination agenda. About a million people died in the Indian partition. Even though the brotherhood/British empire was involved in the partition, it will be interesting to see if our ptb can keep its nose out of the situation now as it's no longer any of our business. Or are they still openly operating the world policeman and using British servicemen and women for their agenda. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Isn't it 77 years since partition? (Thinking that happened in 1948). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagdog19 Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 9 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said: Isn't it 77 years since partition? (Thinking that happened in 1948). That old chestnut, 77. What is it with numbers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_evans Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 4 hours ago, Anti Facts Sir said: Isn't it 77 years since partition? (Thinking that happened in 1948). 1947 according to my (late) uncle Jack, who was there. Don't think I'm misremembering although it's a few years since he talked about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted May 7 Share Posted May 7 Here's what is likely going on. It is fairly complicated and everything is interconnected. As it usually is. There is quite a lot of evidence I haven't put on the table since this post would go for days if I did. The connection in this case is with Trump's fight against the globalists. In particular China. When exerting political influence America uses soft power in the form of foreign aid. Taking a leaf out of John Perkin's book, Confessions of an Economic Hitman, China uses debt slavery. The Belts and Roads initiative. Advance these countries money to develop infrastructure. When they can't repay foreclose on their resources. Everything Trump is doing at the moment, geopolitically, is to crush China. Tariffs, Panama Canal, Iran etc. etc. China is absolutely hemorrhaging as a result of the tariffs. People are rioting, striking (unheard of), leaving cities and factories are shutting down. China has another problem. Population decline. So, it will not be in a position to provide cheap goods to the rest of the world. When there is a labor shortage it drives up the cost of wages etc. Trump is aware of this and has talked about shifting manufacturing from China to India. Therefore, China needs to take out India. And who is heavily indebted to China? Pakistan! Pakistan struggling to pay its debts to China - Asia Times 6 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talorgan Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 (edited) On 5/7/2025 at 11:09 PM, SoundOfSilence said: Here's what is likely going on. It is fairly complicated and everything is interconnected. As it usually is. There is quite a lot of evidence I haven't put on the table since this post would go for days if I did. The connection in this case is with Trump's fight against the globalists. In particular China. When exerting political influence America uses soft power in the form of foreign aid. Taking a leaf out of John Perkin's book, Confessions of an Economic Hitman, China uses debt slavery. The Belts and Roads initiative. Advance these countries money to develop infrastructure. When they can't repay foreclose on their resources. Everything Trump is doing at the moment, geopolitically, is to crush China. Tariffs, Panama Canal, Iran etc. etc. China is absolutely hemorrhaging as a result of the tariffs. People are rioting, striking (unheard of), leaving cities and factories are shutting down. China has another problem. Population decline. So, it will not be in a position to provide cheap goods to the rest of the world. When there is a labor shortage it drives up the cost of wages etc. Trump is aware of this and has talked about shifting manufacturing from China to India. Therefore, China needs to take out India. And who is heavily indebted to China? Pakistan! Pakistan struggling to pay its debts to China - Asia Times Also outsourcing to these countries is " dominant minority's" greed, enabled environmental pollution to be ignored - where it took long time to get some environmental protection in former industrial countries ,pillaged before moving on, but kicking off battles now could escalate ( perhaps something similar happen before long time ago ?) Edited May 10 by Talorgan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katsika Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 https://michaeltsnyder.substack.com/p/in-2019-we-were-warned-that-a-nuclear?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1520363&post_id=163246185&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=17im62&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email Potentially Kill 125 Million People And Cause Mass Starvation Worldwide 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainlove Posted May 10 Share Posted May 10 Got to be honest, i was hoping for WW3 to start. But no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 This seems to be headed to a proxy war. Pakistan, is supported by China Pakistan Leans Heavily On China For Military Hardware After US Cuts Arms Supplies Post-Afghanistan From China To Turkey And US: Where Does World Stand On Operation Sindoor? - News18 Quoting a Chinese diplomat: “As an ironclad friend and an all-weather strategic cooperative partner, China fully understands Pakistan’s legitimate security concerns and supports Pakistan in safeguarding its sovereignty and security interests", Wang said." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 21 hours ago, Talorgan said: Also outsourcing to these countries is " dominant minority's" greed, enabled environmental pollution to be ignored - where it took long time to get some environmental protection in former industrial countries ,pillaged before moving on, but kicking off battles now could escalate ( perhaps something similar happen before long time ago ?) As you know, the environmental standards which only apply to the West are designed to drive manufacturing to China and India etc. Moving all of the US' manufacturing base to China was part of the globalist' plan. Are you referring to the Mahabharata? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 20 hours ago, Katsika said: https://michaeltsnyder.substack.com/p/in-2019-we-were-warned-that-a-nuclear?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1520363&post_id=163246185&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=17im62&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email Potentially Kill 125 Million People And Cause Mass Starvation Worldwide Interesting that 2025 was picked as the baseline for the study. I did a quick look into the authors of the study referred to. They are all academics in Left Wing Universities in Colorado, NY, NJ, DC and LA. But nothing connecting them to a globalist thinktank, say the CFR. At least on a shallow dive. So, it may be coincidence. Or it could be a whitepaper outlining future plans. Hard to tell. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talorgan Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 (edited) 10 hours ago, SoundOfSilence said: As you know, the environmental standards which only apply to the West are designed to drive manufacturing to China and India etc. Moving all of the US' manufacturing base to China was part of the globalist' plan. Are you referring to the Mahabharata? Yes wasn't Maurice Strong one of the characters involved in moving manufacturing east paid for by us ,we the people ,as always had no say in it Could be Mahabharata and others ,there is supposed evidence around world of such a battle( s)? long ago but of course this could be tales that are allegorical or mind manifesting etc But it does seem knowledge &/ or a certain group(s) survived cataclysmic events or their ideas were past on / adapted Edited May 11 by Talorgan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 9 hours ago, Talorgan said: Yes wasn't Maurice Strong one of the characters involved in moving manufacturing east paid for by us ,we the people ,as always had no say in it Could be. I know he was heavily involved in pushing the global warming delusion. Kissinger, Soros and Clinton were big players in migrating the US manufacturing base to China. There were a lot of others too though and Strong could be among them. 9 hours ago, Talorgan said: Could be Mahabharata and others ,there is supposed evidence around world of such a battle( s)? There is also the response by Oppenheimer when after Trinity, he was asked if this was the first time a nuke had been detonated on Earth. He responded, 'well yes, in Modern times'. Or something close to that. There is vitrified glass founds in some ancient stone sites. Such as in Scotland. The Mystery of the Vitrified Forts Though it may have been possible to build fires hot enough to cause that. I'm not sure. As you know, mainstream archeology is desperate to quash any notions of advanced ancient civilizations. So, it is not easy to discover the truth. 9 hours ago, Talorgan said: long ago but of course this could be tales that are allegorical or mind manifesting etc But it does seem knowledge &/ or a certain group(s) survived cataclysmic events or their ideas were past on / adapted Indeed. Plato's Atlantis. Then the Sphinx in Egypt is way, way older than we are led to believe. The Dogon tribe in Africa. Gobekli Tepi in Turkey too. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack121 Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 On 5/7/2025 at 11:09 PM, SoundOfSilence said: Everything Trump is doing at the moment, geopolitically, is to crush China. Tariffs, Panama Canal, Iran etc. etc. China is absolutely hemorrhaging as a result of the tariffs. People are rioting, striking (unheard of), leaving cities and factories are shutting down. China has another problem. Population decline. So, it will not be in a position to provide cheap goods to the rest of the world. When there is a labor shortage it drives up the cost of wages etc. Trump is doing what every politician in the world is doing, desperatly scouring every sector every department every area of the US trying to find more ways to increase taxes and bring in new taxes. Only he's not calling it tax increases as this is unpopular with the voters, he's relabeling it as tarrifs, it means the same thing. Then his cronies in the media declare it as some great humantarian deed Like trump put a 100% tarrif on all foreign movies, calling it a may to make hollywood more competitive, didn't mention how it's going to destroy studios, make people lose their jobs, and make him $Millions in extra taxes These people have always got some undercover snidy way to try and justify taking more taxes from you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted May 15 Share Posted May 15 4 minutes ago, jack121 said: Trump is doing what every politician in the world is doing, desperatly scouring every sector every department every area of the US trying to find more ways to increase taxes and bring in new taxes. Only he's not calling it tax increases as this is unpopular with the voters, he's relabeling it as tarrifs, it means the same thing. Then his cronies in the media declare it as some great humantarian deed We'll have to disagree on this. 4 minutes ago, jack121 said: Like trump put a 100% tarrif on all foreign movies, calling it a may to make hollywood more competitive, didn't mention how it's going to destroy studios, make people lose their jobs, and make him $Millions in extra taxes As you may know, China runs a lot of Hollywood now. The movie tax was aimed at China. Though there may have been a protectionist element too. Regardless, Hollywood is probably finished. 4 minutes ago, jack121 said: These people have always got some undercover snidy way to try and justify taking more taxes from you In most cases yes. I don't think it is the case with this administration. But we are not going to agree on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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