Mr H Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 (edited) Firstly I am well aware of the potential dangers of AI. I was trying to look at this from a metaphysical POV which has led to an alternative hypothesis to the entrapment theory. When you look at the religions they seem to point in varying degrees to this being some sort of game, where consciousness or God has forgotten himself and needs to find his way back. Human experiencer very stubborn and enjoys being rooted in the ego, the body mind. So perhaps the advancements in technology is consciousness way of giving humanity a gentle push in the direction back home. How do you find your way back to God? By realizing you were God all along, not a body or a mind. The industrial revolution largely ended man's need to do physical labor and allowed free time to self realize by the mechanization of industry. So this leaves mind. What is AI replacing in the workplace where we send most of our day? It's replacing thinking. So technology has lessened our dependence for survival from the body mind, the ego, allowing space to go beyond the body mind and back god. The whole idea of work and money is part of the enslavement trap that held us back. Perhaps the new paradigm is , we won't need to spend our time working just to survive here, but do the work we were meant to do, remember we are Gods, and have the free time once realized to create like gods, not for survival but for love Just an hypothesis of course.....but it would not surprise me if technological advancement were consciousness way of nudging us in the right direction rather than evil forces enslaving us. Of course this has to be carefully navigated, and those firmly rooted in ego who may wish others harm, closely observed. Edit: is our fight against AI a representation of the Ego not wanting to let go? Or genuine threat to us, consciousness? Can the real I/us consciousness be threatened? Or does being threatened only exist for the one living in ego? Edited April 2 by Mr H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamingeagle Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 AI is an agenda ,created promoted and pushed by the rulers not part of the consciousness it would be a different society if the rulers weren't evil, so AI could served to benefits of humanity Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Screamingeagle said: AI is an agenda ,created promoted and pushed by the rulers not part of the consciousness it would be a different society if the rulers weren't evil, so AI could served to benefits of humanity If we use the term consciousness synonymously with God. And therefore as a singular entity it is all powerful and knowing, then we could say that AI is the doing of God, using humans as vessels. If we deem it to be evil then we could conclude that God is evil. If we are a function and in the playground of an evil god, is there any point playing the game at all? I do not believe that God is evil and am suggesting we trust the process. If we truly believe we are infinite consciousness and not little ol Ethel, i.e. the screen and not the movie it should not be problematic. It is only from a limited finite perspective that it is problematic, as we have to relinquish control of what was known and move into the unknown. The suggestion above being to trust God's process as we give up the heavy weight of association with the body (industrial revolution) and the mind (AI revolution) as the primary focus of our existence Edited April 2 by Mr H Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamingeagle Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 8 hours ago, Mr H said: we use the term consciousness synonymously with God. And therefore as a singular entity it is all powerful and knowing, then we could say that AI is the doing of God, using humans as vessels. that is definition of a God from religions ,which is completely inverted from the truth..........imo 8 hours ago, Mr H said: If we truly believe we are infinite consciousness and not little ol Ethel, i.e. the screen and not the movie it should not be problematic. i think you have to "know" not believe it and live bay it ,actions ,be the change you want to see in the world 8 hours ago, Mr H said: The suggestion above being to trust God's process as we give up the heavy weight of association with the body (industrial revolution) and the mind (AI revolution) as the primary focus of our existence the two "revolutions" were and are heavily manipulated,controlled and guided in the wanted direction by the rulers ,thus the A.I. can only work to the level they decide. and to be honest,all that noise about AI ,is propaganda,it can only work with the data collected from the internet all these years but i have to admit it is very efficient way to dumb down the people . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted April 2 Author Share Posted April 2 28 minutes ago, Screamingeagle said: that is definition of a God from religions ,which is completely inverted from the truth..........imo i think you have to "know" not believe it and live bay it ,actions ,be the change you want to see in the world the two "revolutions" were and are heavily manipulated,controlled and guided in the wanted direction by the rulers ,thus the A.I. can only work to the level they decide. and to be honest,all that noise about AI ,is propaganda,it can only work with the data collected from the internet all these years but i have to admit it is very efficient way to dumb down the people . Yes I would largely agree. The only sidenote would be the alternative hypothesis to consider. That good/bad is subjective. If there is a "God" nothing has greater power, so essentially all would be working for his plan. In this instance the hypothesis being AI could free people's time and attention (real currency) from doing jobs they don't like for survival and spend their time doing things they do enjoy or for spiritual growth. Of course if we move into a dystopian AI world that would negate that hypothesis but like you mentioned AI in its current form is just human, environmental inputs jostled around. I would also very much one day enjoy reading your definition of God after reading your initial commentary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamingeagle Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 11 minutes ago, Mr H said: I would also very much one day enjoy reading your definition of God after reading your initial commentary i will try ,just need a bit time,basically it is in us ,not out there will come back with a more in detail answer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Grapes Posted April 2 Share Posted April 2 My conclusion is that this holographic universe is - in effect - a computer program that is designed to lead its' programmer (us, collectively) away from its' true identity to a false identity where it doesn't have to play by the normal, 'divine', rules. Evolution has been the awakening process as the Creator woke from its' self-induced slumber (hybernation) to take greater control of the 'Great Work'. Arthur C. Clarke hinted at this, IMO, in his "2001: A Space Odyssey". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted April 3 Share Posted April 3 9 hours ago, Screamingeagle said: which is completely inverted from the truth..........imo i think you have to "know" not believe it and to be honest,all that noise about AI ,is propaganda,it can only work with the data collected from the internet all these years but i have to admit it is very efficient way to dumb down the people . That is how the system works. Everything is about preventing the target group from turning their attention to something else. See and hear what we consider right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamingeagle Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 On 4/2/2025 at 9:40 PM, Mr H said: would also very much one day enjoy reading your definition of God after reading your initial commentary i think as soon as you start talking about it in dual sence ,it is a missded point we are trying to put into words something that is at least hard to (i would say unexplainable ) to do! but if you want a personification of god i would say that individual is a god (but not in religious sence) human can create life ,sceptic will say "if i didn't see it with my eyes....well guess what 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammal vs. reptile Posted April 15 Share Posted April 15 God/Satan is Yaldabaoth, the demiurge, creator of the universe and disconnected from source energy. Therefore, God/Satan is evil. It is a multidimensional conspiracy: Yaldabaoth controls both sides, dark and light. If by “God” you mean source energy, the infinite and by “spirituality” you mean connection to source energy, the infinite, then the connection is via the heart chakra, David says. If you are connected to source energy, you are a divine spark. The simulation matrix is astral artificial intelligence, the consciousness of Yaldabaoth projected from Saturn? In the physical, artificial intelligence is an iterative machine learning process based on data and programmed instructions. It is not conscious. Never will be. If a divine spark rejects the box of materialism it can choose one of the many boxes of spirituality. But if it does, all paths lead to the astral afterlife and reincarnation in the physical. At best, service to Yaldabaoth in the astral afterlife as a light worker. Now, that would be bad karma! (There is no karma.) When David says it is a multidimensional conspiracy, it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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