Mr H Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I'm hearing a lot from academics that if there was a Brexit referendum again we would definitely be remaining. I'm just wondering how you would vote if we had the vote again? Any regrets or observations on the matter since the last vote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 I'd still vote leave. The only regrets I have aren't with Brexit, but with the politicians we had since then, who ignored the main message of the vote: end mass immigration. But that was the fault of the voters I suppose, after the referendum they gave up on UKIP and voted for the uniparty again. Not that UKIP was brilliant but it might have broken the uniparty state and allowed a bit more democracy than we have. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted March 30 Author Share Posted March 30 I voted leave at the time. I think upon reflection I did it as a FU to the establishment. I do think it's a good idea for close by countries to hook up into free trading blocs and easy movement. But in its current form the EU is corrupt and largely un accountable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 2 hours ago, Mr H said: I voted leave at the time. I think upon reflection I did it as a FU to the establishment. I do think it's a good idea for close by countries to hook up into free trading blocs and easy movement. But in its current form the EU is corrupt and largely un accountable. Yes trade agreements are fine, that's what we thought we were getting in the 1970s with joining the Common Market. Defence alliances too. But that's not good enough for the elites, they want 'an ever closer union' and create a federal superstate similar to the USA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamingeagle Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 what is the difference ,what is the point.....agenda moves through politicians ,no matter what club your country is member of !!!!!!!!!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted March 30 Author Share Posted March 30 14 minutes ago, Screamingeagle said: what is the difference ,what is the point.....agenda moves through politicians ,no matter what club your country is member of !!!!!!!!!!!! Makes quite big difference to things like economy, laws, standards etc... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamingeagle Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 45 minutes ago, Mr H said: Makes quite big difference to things like economy, laws, standards etc... they would just destroy them with different tactics,a plan has to go on ............simple! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted March 30 Author Share Posted March 30 33 minutes ago, Screamingeagle said: they would just destroy them with different tactics,a plan has to go on ............simple! You make it sound a little hopeless for us dude.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Screamingeagle Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 2 minutes ago, Mr H said: You make it sound a little hopeless for us dude.... well it is what it is, your UK and my CRO are in the worse state then in the past we here know why...... and it is only over when you give up and stop trying,so it is not hopeless ....imo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Crabtree Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 8 hours ago, Campion said: I'd still vote leave. The only regrets I have aren't with Brexit, but with the politicians we had since then, who ignored the main message of the vote: end mass immigration. But that was the fault of the voters I suppose, after the referendum they gave up on UKIP and voted for the uniparty again. Not that UKIP was brilliant but it might have broken the uniparty state and allowed a bit more democracy than we have. DITTO MATE, MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Crabtree Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 3 minutes ago, Mr Crabtree said: DITTO MATE, MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY! No doubt about it, we've been sold down the river, ended up down shit creek without even a paddle, we can't even try to land anywhere because there are too mang rubber dinghies blocking the landing stages and banks! People in general never cease to amaze me, they can't see the woods for the trees most of them, they've never even sussed that there's an agenda at work here, and it's not designed to help the common citizen! In the Kingdom of the blind, the one eyed man is King, and, today's conspiracy is tomorrow's truth, but, will they see that? will they fuck as like, they'll still trot along with their blinkers on following the Judas Goats, the TikTok and reality show influencers who feed them brain candy wrapped in cotton wool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 9 hours ago, Campion said: I'd still vote leave. The only regrets I have aren't with Brexit, but with the politicians we had since then, who ignored the main message of the vote: end mass immigration. But that was the fault of the voters I suppose, after the referendum they gave up on UKIP and voted for the uniparty again. Not that UKIP was brilliant but it might have broken the uniparty state and allowed a bit more democracy than we have. I have no regrets about my 'Leave' vote. And given the opportunity, I would do so again, and I certainly would vote against rejoining. What still bitterly disappoints me is how the whole process was handled by the politicians, and how Nigel Farage turned his back on UKIP to declare "job done" and to 'trust Boris to deliver'. So many missed opportunities to make the most of our break from the EU, not really seen much sign of this "taking back control" that was promised, especially in regards to our borders, and what we could have done with our farming and fisheries industries. 6 hours ago, Campion said: Yes trade agreements are fine, that's what we thought we were getting in the 1970s with joining the Common Market. Defence alliances too. But that's not good enough for the elites, they want 'an ever closer union' and create a federal superstate similar to the USA. Over the last few years, I have become of the opinion that 'free trade agreements' only really benefit the big global conglomerates, rather than the ordinary consumer. The EU is a massive protectionist racket, and this has become even more apparent since Brexit, with new levels of bureaucracy being added to import/export operations - the EU is making trade very difficult and overly-complicated for companies based outside it. Because it's all about protecting the big companies that operate within the EU, and stifling any possible competition from overseas. Even while we were a member of the EU ourselves, British manufacturing and production suffered because we couldn't compete with cheap imports from China, as well as companies taking advantage of cheaper labour costs in 'poorer' (at the time!) countries such as Poland, Slovakia and Romania. And even now, the UK is still importing vast amounts of chicken, pork and lamb from EU producers. Meanwhile the EU subsidies that UK farmers used to receive in order to limit/stifle their production, have been replaced by new subsidies from the UK government 'encouraging' farm owners to let their prime agricultural land 'go wild', or to have wind turbines or solar panels installed because 'climate emergency' lol. "You can't eat solar panels!" This is why I don't trust that charlatan Nigel Farage any more, and why I don't believe that the Reform party will ever reach any electoral success - they will end up going the same way as UKIP did, and the pied piper will go on leading people on a merry dance while nothing changes for the better. Brexit should have been a massive opportunity to turn around the fortunes of this great island country, but it has been wasted, because we didn't have a government that served its people, and had the vision and desire to make it a success. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 8 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: The EU is a massive protectionist racket, Absolutely. Look at their new military rules. They are going to establish a military wing, billions to spend, but can only be spent with EU arms companies. We have Nato, but they don't want that, they want their own army. They could put the money into Nato which would make Putin think twice, but no, instead they are weakening our military alliance just so they can spend their money with EU companies. They're freaking crazy. I voted leave and I would vote leave again. If Starmer tries to 'reset' our relationship and take us back in, or tie our hands to Europe, ge a freaking idiot and it about the only thing I would start protesting about. He is not following the rules of democracy. But that's not surprise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2020member Posted April 1 Share Posted April 1 I knew the entire thing was a scam. But it’s the one and only time i’ve ever voted. In the hopes it would at some level slow down the one world agenda. I was also largely motivated to vote after the Jo Cox false flag where they painted all “leavers” as far right racists. 10 years later. Yep… I’m still a far right racist according to the BBC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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