The Realities of Gnosticism

[Angelicalist]

I wasn’t sure where to put this, and I was looking for a Gnosticism Section, and thought this could go in “Religions and Secret Societies”, but is more Related to the Nature of Reality You could say. I was thinking about putting it in Vibrations and Frequencies and that, but that is only part of it.

 

So I’ll Start off by saying that I am not Gnostic, at the Age of Writing this now I am 33, the same Age as Jesus when he Died, also Related to the Degrees of Masonry and the Scottish and York Rites, and the Shriners. And we could say this is Related to Secret Societies in a way partially, this Thread, but it’s because of the Degrees and the Mnemonics. I have Noticed that in their 30s, Humans go either Psychotic, or they keep it all together, and some can’t tell the Difference, it’s not extremely Different, but it’s Important and some People can tell if someone is Crazy, most People can’t tell or think Crazy is like Subjective. It is Objective, and it mainly Happens in the 30s. Not just Males, Females too; but, I would use Jesus, and like Hippos Fighting over Watering Holes, or Deer Locking Horns, our Horns are Spiritual though as Humanoids. Jesus was a Spectacular example, maybe Alexander but he didn’t go through his whole 30s, Hannibal Barca, but each and Every Human is an Example. And the kind of overall Conclusion I have Drawn is that Daemonologie is not such a Mistaken Art, Psychology and Neuroscience are just more Advanced, but maybe we could say Lacking.
 

So I’m not Gnostic, but when I was like 12 or 13 we did Confirmation Class and went to Different Churches and Things, and I asked one of the Youth Group Leaders, like “Do Jews go to Hell?” And She said “No, that’s theirs this is ours” kind of Paraphrasing. So I asked “Why are we Christian then though?”. And I tried Shamanism like IamShaman.com and an old one was KTBotanicals, like BouncingBearBotanicals, I did kind of Mazatec Shamanism also when Salvia was Legal but I used Regular 1x Leaves with Everyone, not the Crazy stuff but I did Try like 100x. I was like an Animist at one Point. I studied like Voodoo and Zombies and whatnot, more recently I Read a Hoodoo Spell Book by De Laurence that had a kind of Christian Description of Karma, but at that Time when I was going through Religions I had been Islamic, I knew 2 Muslim Girls and we regularly were Smoking Hookah at their House and so as I was Working to find the True God I was Muslim once, and the are very Against Magic and have Talismans to protect You and Things. I eventually settled on the Egyptian Religion, Kemeticism, determining my Gods were Atum, Ra, Mut, Pan and Shiva, so it was kind of a Polytheistic Mix. I Later found Atum-Ra, and Pashupati, who is the Primordial Pan-Shiva, there is a Connection between the “Pans” who help Zeus and Things, and the “Rudras”. I at some Point Discovered Shiva was the Lord of Bhang, that Marijuana was Associated with him, and I could not believe that I hadn’t known that because I did use Marijuana Shamanistically from the Age of 14. We had been Raised to believe in the Magical Properties of Plants at a Young Age, and when I Tried Marijuana I immediately knew it was. I then Learned about Alkaloids, and how Plant Medicines Work and my Mom was a bit of a Homeopathic Christo-Witch, so I started Learning how the Plant Medicines Worked on a Scientific Level, Chemistry and Things. I also around 14 found Dr. Sasha Shulgin while finding all of this, so his Books PIHKAL and TIHKAL and MAPS (the Organization) and Things. But Gnosticism does contain some Truths, and I want to get into it Starting with this.

 

This Video gets into a God described as connected to all “Friction” but not in the Traditional Sense, it is also the Friction between Light and our Eyes that allows us to see as he Describes it in the Video.  He says this God wants him to “Frict”, and this is kind of the Gnostic Lust God. Gnosticism says the God of our World is Evil, it is Lust. And Sophia, Wisdom, is the True God beyond the God of this World.

 

So that Video is not a Declared Gnostic Practitioner Talking about his Faith, it is just someone Talking about the Nature of Reality, and it is a Gnostic Leaning Concept. So I want to First get into some Criticisms of Gnosticism to then get into the Truths better.

 

Rabbi Singer is a well known Rabbi on YouTube, maybe more well known since October, 7th, as most Israelis are like the People in the Video above, or other “So Be it” Videos (that Jewish Lawyer Talking about Fricting is maybe a little more lewd than others on the Channel) and Rabbi Singer spends a lot of Time in the New Testament, which a lot of People in Israel kind of saw as Evil, and Rabbi Singer probably would rather they just see it as Evil, but is not Opposed to Everyone Reading it. He is better than Christian Priests, he can go between the New and Old Testament the way Jesus, and Peter, and Mathew and James and John were, he’s Right there knowing what they are saying about the Old Testament as he goes through the New Testament. Rabbi Singer’s whole Thing that got him Started was the Jews for Jesus, he is Combating them to bring Jews out of the Church, and even Christians, but he doesn’t want them to be Atheists, he wants them to be Noahides, Noah’s Religion. Rabbi Singer is Heavily Critical of the Gnostic Aspects of Christianity, one of his big Points being that Paul was largely Gnostic, seeing Flesh as Evil, Spirit as Good, as a Strict Dichotomy, etc. So he is saying that when Paul came around, he never meets Jesus, he meets this Spirit Jesus, and through Paul then comes all the Nag Hammadi Gnostic Traditions of like a Jesus that hovers over the Ground as like a Spirit Person, and Jesus’ Body was on the Cross but it was Meaningless because he wasn’t a Body, these Teachings that even Christians largely dismiss. So Rabbi Singer gets into all that a lot, and he says it’s all a Mystery Religion, Paul saying he has the Mystery and Everyone else missed it.

But so then to the Mystery Traditions, which is the Secret Societies, called “Mystery Schools”, the Society of the Miller’s Word it like where Miller Beer comes from, and the Society of the Horseman’s Word is where Clydesdales and Budweiser comes from. But they had the Dionysus Mysteries which was about like Wine and Orgies, and there was the Eleusinia Mysteries which involved a Basement type Temple, and Emerging with New Knowledge like a Mushroom out of the Earth, out of that Basement type Temple. Carl Ruck has Published Books and Papers You can find online, he elaborated on and refuted the main Point of “The Sacred Mushroom and the Cross” and gets into how the Western Discovery of Cubensis Mushrooms created Rituals in Modern Secret Societies, and like Billionaire Clubs.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleusinian_Mysteries

 

 

We could call some Mystery Tradition important, Idmon is like a Gnostic God, he is a Seer or Prophet, and Mopsus. These are Greek Prophet Gods. Prophecy is a Mystery Tradition.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idmon_(Argonaut)

Gnosis means “Knowledge” to “Know”, this is what the Freemasonry Degrees are about, the Secret Societies, we can look at the Statue of Liberty and the Greek Cult of Attis or Mithra, and the Initiations and Ceremonial Items and Everything, and see that this was Persian and Roman, at the Highest Levels of Government and was continued on through Different Empires as Secretive Traditions passed Down, that’s how it all Started, Constantine Converted his Empire and they all kept their stuff Secret and his Masons build his Cathedrals with their stuff secretly hidden in the Art. Then the Muslims came and they did the same Thing, but the Muslims Ended the Library of Alexandria. And we can all see knowing is important, but it is not just “Knowing”, Dichotomies like Spirit and Flesh are important.

Jesus is called Beelzebub and Talks about this, and a Legion of Demons in a Man obey Jesus. There are 2 Entities we can all see in our Lives even. Ceres and Eris. Eris is a Greek Word that is related to Wars, Eris is the Thing when You see something Nice that someone else owns and You want to Work Hard to get one too. Eris is also what Starts Wars, when the Working Hard is not an Option, like in a Slavery Scenario. Eris is like Lessons Learned through Physical Pain, and even Emotional Pain, but it’s very Impatient, it is Impulsive, it Strikes in Passion and Anger and Really any Time, it wants to see Blood, it wants to see Suffering, and it kind of Feeds off if these Things, and it likes Crystalline Substances. Ceres is like Learning by Reading a Book, or getting Instruction, Ceres is Hard Work Paying off You could say, because Ceres is the God of Farm Work, the “Cereal” God, but Ceres is “Wax”, less than Crystalline. Pleasant, Beautiful and Fine, like a Veil. Ceres is a Purifying Fire, Eris is a Punishing Fire. Eris is being Burned to a Char and rubbing Your Charred Body on Stone just to have some sensation as You Ash apart, like a Hell. Ceres is much more Ethereal, but these are both connected to Spirit and Flesh. You could say they are the Angel and Devil on the Shoulder, the Good Angel and the Bad Angel tempting Everyone invisibly.

 

But now as a last Point, the Matrix gets into this a little, the whole Concept of the Illusion, called “Maya” by many Modern Authors, the “Matrix” in the Movie, this Illusion is comparable to the Gnostic Concept which claims there are “Flyers” or Archons, like Gargoyle Creatures, Flying around causing an Illusion like the Matrix that we Live in, Guiding Everything. And this is what David Icke gets into, I couldn’t Remember how to find it, but it all used to be on Wikipedia and isn’t anymore. It’s David Icke’s stuff, that’s where to find it. But there is something to it. There are invisible Entities called Egregori, that is the Greek Word, the English Word is “Watcher”, the German Word is “Poltergeist”. In Greek there is a Larger entity called an Oracle, and in German there is a Larger entity called a “Zeitgeist”, You probably saw a Movie called “Zeitgeist”, but it actually is when a bunch of Poltergeists come together they make a Zeitgeist. And these Exist, but before Humans could Speak they could only compare them to the Sky, so the Planets were compared to them, and so became Synonymous with these Earthbound Forces, also having some Real Connection to the Planets. But they then became implanted in our Language, You are Jovial, or Mercurial, Sexually Transmitted Diseases are “Venereal” (of Venus), the Arts of War are “Martial” (of Mars), these are all around us. It is our Chakra System, or the Jewish Breastplate, connected to the Planets and the Sun, between all of us. And like our Eyes don’t show us Everything, Google “Mantis Shrimp Vision”, our Ears don’t let us Hear Everything, Cold and Hot only exist because of our internal Temperature, Cold and Hot are only something we Recognize. The Sun could very well be Alive in a way we don’t understand. But there is a lot going on around us we can’t see, I would compare it to Gravity, it’s all there but no one can see it and it’s all just kind of taken for Granted.

 

"I suppose you have seen, in the 2d Vol. of the new Philosophical Essays of the Edinburgh Society, an Account of some Experiments to produce Cold by Evaporation, made by Dr. Cullen, who mentions the like having been before made at Petersburg. I think it is but lately that our European Philosophers have known or acknowledg’d anything of such a Power in Nature. But I find it has been long known in the East. Bernier, in the Account of his Travels into India, wrote above 100 Years since, mentions the Custom of Travellers carrying their Water in Flasks covered with wet woollen Cloth, and hung to the Pomells of their Saddles, so as that the Wind might act upon them in order to cool the Water. I have also seen a kind of Jar for cooling Water, made of Potter’s Earth, but unglaz’d and so porous that the Water gradually ouzed through to the Surface, supplying Water just sufficient for a constant Evaporation. I try’d it, and found the Water within much cool’d in a few Hours. This Jar was brought from Egypt. Mentioning this Matter to Dr. Hadley, then Professor of Chemistry at Cambridge, he immediately made the following Experiment at which I was present: He dipt the Thermometer into a Quantity of the highly rectified Spirit that goes by the Name of Ether, famous for its quick Evaporation. The Ether having stood in the same Room with the Thermometer, was therefore of the same degree of Warmth, and of course there was no Alteration of Height in the Mercury while it remain’d in the Ether. But as soon as the Thermometer was taken out, and the Ether with which it was wet began to evaporate from its Surface, the Mercury fell several Degrees. The Doctor repeated the Wetting with a Feather, and I quicken’d the Evaporation by a Bellows, that the Repetitions of Wetting might succeed quicker; and the Event was, that the Mercury sunk from 65, the Temperament of the Air on that Day, down to 7, which was 25 Degrees below the Freezing Point; so that the Moisture of the Air and Breath of the Bystanders, collecting round the cold Ball of the Thermometer, froze there, and form’d a rough Ice all round, and near ¼ of an Inch thick. It seems by this, that a Man naked, and standing in the Wind, and repeatedly wet with Spirits might be frozen to death in a Summer’s Day. I think none of our common Philosophical Principles will serve us in accounting for this. Perhaps yours may do it." - Benjamin Franklin Letter To Cadwallader Colden, Perth-Amboy, Feb. 26. 1763
 

 

"...another incident took place on the same occasion which will further delineate Hamilton’s political principles. the room being hung around with a collection of the portraits of remarkable men, among them were those of Bacon, Newton & Locke. Hamilton asked me who they were. I told him they were my trinity of the three greatest men the world had ever produced, naming them. he paused for some time: ‘the greatest man, said he, that ever lived was Julius Caesar.’ Mr Adams was honest as a politician as well as a man; Hamilton honest as a man, but, as a politician, believing in the necessity of either force or corruption to govern men." -Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Rush, 16 January 1811

 

"All perceptible matter comes from a primary substance, or tenuity beyond conception, filling all space, the Akasha (आकदश) or luminferous ether, which is acted upon by the life giving Prana (परदणत) or creative force, calling into existence, in never-ending cycles all things and phenomena."

-Nikola Tesla, Man's Greatest Achievement

 

"This life of yours which you are living is not merely a piece of this entire existence, but in a certain sense the whole; only this whole is not constituted that it can be surveyed in one single glance. This, as we know, is that sacred, mystic formula which is yet really so simple and so clear; tat tvam asi, this is you. Or, again, in such words as 'I am in the east and west, I am above and below, I am this entire world"

-Erwin Schrodinger

 

"Science derives its conclusions by the laws of logic from our sense perceptions, Thus it does not deal with the real world, of which we know nothing, but with the world as it appears to our senses. … All our sense perceptions are limited by and attached to the conceptions of time and space. … Modern physics has come to the same conclusion in the relativity theory, that absolute space and absolute time have no existence, but, time and space exist only as far as things or events fill them, that is, are forms of sense perception."

-Prometheus Steinmetz

 

"The spread of civilisation may be likened to a fire; first, a feeble spark, next a flickering flame, then a mighty blaze, ever increasing in speed and power."

-Nikola Tesla

 

"The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence."

-Nikola Tesla

 

"I had to wait nineteen years before Niagara was harnessed by my system, fifteen years before the basic inventions for wireless which I gave to the world in 1893 were applied universally." -Nikola Tesla

 

"Indeed, the most important part of engineering work—and also of other scientific work—is the determination of the method of attacking the problem, whatever it may be, whether an experimental investigation, or a theoretical calculation. … It is by the choice of a suitable method of attack, that intricate problems are reduced to simple phenomena, and then easily solved. "

-Prometheus Steinmetz

 

"The scientist knows that the ultimate of everything is unknowable. No matter What subject you take, the current theory of it if carried to the ultimate becomes ridiculous. Time and space are excellent examples of this."

-Prometheus Steinmetz

 

"I go to the Upanishad to ask questions"

-Niels Bohr

 

 

Edited February 15 by Angelicalist

[Angelicalist]

Our Calendar by George Nichols Parker

https://www.gutenberg.org/files/36197/36197-h/36197-h.htm

 

Diagrams (Depicted)

[Angelicalist]

Earths in the Starry Heavens by Emanuel Swedenborg

https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/16044/pg16044-images.html

 

 

 

 

From: El Sasha

Date: Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: Judaism

 

When the Pagans converted to Christianity there were some Discussions and Jewish People have a History of Ashera Poles, and like Gideon the Tearing Down of Ashera Poles, and an Arc of the Covenant which was at one Time an Egyptian Icon as well. So I think also the Christians will overwhelmingly be able to accept one Point, and that is that God can send someone in Human Form, in a way that might even seem Subhuman to Humanity, or Lower Class at the Least, so as to give that Divine Flesh Person a capability of understanding People better. So putting someone in a Position to have to Struggle, and interact with maybe the Worst of Humanity, so give them that Experience.

 

And so now to the stuff the Christians will talk over, at least like the Robert Jefresses of the World, and this could maybe even be called Kabbalah or Magic, but the Pagans agreed that the Gods of their Religions were the Angels, and Nephilim (Gigantomachy), the Nephilim then start being called “Giants” in the West, the Bible never says “Giants” though is does Describe Goliath as Tall with a Giant Shield and Spear. Annakim apparently means “Tall” and the First Spies said the Annakim in Canaan were “of great stature”. But the important Part is not the Flesh Gods, though that gets to the Angels, some are Flesh. Some Greek and Egyptian Gods were Flesh, like a Human, but they were related to what the Greeks and other Pagans agreed were “The Watchers”, which is Egregori. Egregore just means “Thought-Form”, a Business or LLC, a “State” like the “State” in a Court Case or on a Map, but this is what the Angels and Gods are. Like WiFi, like DNA, like Wind, like Spirit. You could compare it to Hot and Cold; Your skin is a Meatsack that hardens on the outside, to what is still a soft tissue, but it has that thin layer of Skin, the Epidermis, and Depending on the Distance of the Sun from the Earth, and how the Wind Blows, You will have the Sensation of Hot and Cold. You look at a Rock that is Red Hot, or Metal, and You know “Thats Hot” but Hot and Cold do not exist except for to Your Meatsack. Spirit is one of these Things, Your Soul is one of these Things, the Pentecost would be an example.

 

And so these Egregori, they do not see each of us, they only just recently even Learned English, they all Speak Hebrew, and Greek and Latin and Things. They do not have the Human Experience, they see us by DNA, and Candles, and the Sephirot, they don’t understand what an Individual Human is completely, or they couldn’t get that Microscopic even if they wanted because they are so Massive. Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, etc. the Stars. Quantum Physics is describe by this Quote

“Pick a flower on Earth and you move the farthest star” is a quote by Paul A.M.Dirac

Judges 5:20 says that the Stars fought against Sisera.

 

There are these Entities, and they hear us and see us, but not how we hear us and see us, and they are Related to some of us through Mt. Hermon, they are Related to me.

[ravenhome777]

Have you watched any of Isabella Greene's videos?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZLfYpAMkXM

Edited March 10 by ravenhome777

[ravenhome777]

Donnie Darko clip is quite strange. Not sure why he says he could lose his job. He's hinting at the fact that the student is "on to something", and it's something important ... and possibly hidden knowledge. Is there any conclusion in the show about this line of thought? I remember I tried to watch that show once, but found it difficult for some reason. Not sure if it seemed a little satanic or something along those lines.

[Angelicalist]

On 3/9/2025 at 9:02 PM, ravenhome777 said:

Have you watched any of Isabella Greene's videos?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZLfYpAMkXM

I haven't.

 

On 3/9/2025 at 9:05 PM, ravenhome777 said:

Donnie Darko clip is quite strange. Not sure why he says he could lose his job. He's hinting at the fact that the student is "on to something", and it's something important ... and possibly hidden knowledge. Is there any conclusion in the show about this line of thought? I remember I tried to watch that show once, but found it difficult for some reason. Not sure if it seemed a little satanic or something along those lines.

So what I see when he says "I could lose my Job" is 2 Things, first, it is kind of Showing how Teachers are limited, the same way the English Teacher gets Fired for like "Being a Good Teacher", also, the Science Teacher can't Talk about Religion because of the Separation of Church and State. But, also, Donnie Darko is known by his Teachers to be seeing like Psychologists and Things, and I am not sure exactly what was going on at that Moment when he was Talking to the Teacher, but Donnie does Follow "God's Path" as he puts it in the Video, and it causes him to Break the Water Main in the Building by hacking through it with an Axe, just like the Kids in the Book the English Teacher was Reading with them, and I think it is why She gets Fired, because one of the Students committed a Crime suggested in her Books. And then he Burns Down the Pedophile's House, and Everyone thinks the Pedophile is a Great like Preacher or Self-Help Guy or whatever, so they all see that as a Crime, and Donnie is asking the Teacher a very Strange Question, in "What if I follow God's Path?" and the Teacher is saying like "I can't be Responsible for You thinking God told You to do something, and You do it because I said following God's Path is the Right Option or something".

 

Sorry for the Late Response, it didn't alert me that there was a Response here for some Reason.