Truist Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 What do people think about the confiscation of electric scooters by police in Leicester city centre? The start of the attempt to restrict free movement outside, as scooters aren’t traceable via chip or licence plate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 1/24/2025 at 3:59 PM, Truist said: What do people think about the confiscation of electric scooters by police in Leicester city centre? The start of the attempt to restrict free movement outside, as scooters aren’t traceable via chip or licence plate? I think it is more to do with the fact that e-scooters are not legally permitted on UK highways, unless they are part of a local authorised hire scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 I do wonder at what point you start needing a driving license with these new electric scooters and bikes. When I was 16 I moved on from my push-bike to a moped and needed a provisional license (without a test in those days); some of these bikes are basically electric mopeds and afaik need a license if they're powerful enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1velocity7 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 18 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: I think it is more to do with the fact that e-scooters are not legally permitted on UK highways, unless they are part of a local authorised hire scheme. i believe they should either be all legal or all illegal. one rule for one and one rule for the other is total bllx need a foi asking the government how much income they get from scooter schemes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 6 hours ago, 1velocity7 said: i believe they should either be all legal or all illegal. one rule for one and one rule for the other is total bllx need a foi asking the government how much income they get from scooter schemes Regardless of whether they are hired or privately owned, they are a fucking nuisance! I'm not sure the government gets any income, I think the scooter rental schemes are done at a local government level, so is up to the local council/authority in partnership with the scooter providers, for example BERYL here in the West Midlands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 7 hours ago, Campion said: I do wonder at what point you start needing a driving license with these new electric scooters and bikes. When I was 16 I moved on from my push-bike to a moped and needed a provisional license (without a test in those days); some of these bikes are basically electric mopeds and afaik need a license if they're powerful enough. As I understand it, to legally hire and ride one of these e-scooters here in the West Midlands, you do need to be at least 18 years of age and hold a current driving licence. Quote 24. Using Beryl Scooters This section is specific to the use of Scooters within the Scheme. Beryl may provide Scooters within the Scheme as part of trials with the respective local authority and authorised by the UK Department for Transport (DfT). The terms of the trials means that Beryl Scooters are only permitted to be used within the agreed Beryl Zone. It is a legal requirement that you hold a driving licence that is valid in the UK in order to use a Scooter. Riding a Scooter without a valid driving licence is an offense and may also make you liable for any damages resulting from a traffic accident. from: https://beryl.cc/terms It is worth pointing out that the e-scooter scheme here in the West Midlands was originally contracted to Voi, and you would often see clearly underage riders using their scooters, and there were a number of serious incidents as well as fatalities. Since the contract was awarded to Beryl, there has been less of this, and equally I do see fewer people riding around on their scooters. But I do see more people riding around on e-scooters that aren't part of this scheme, and are obviously privately owned. Yet while these are clearly illegal to use on public roads, people still do, and the police and authorities take little action against their use. They say they need 'more powers' to do so, but why? How come they can't enforce laws already in place? As for e-bikes, if they were to be classified as 'motorcycles' - which is what they basically are, only using electric motors in place of 2-stroke petrol engines - then again you wouldn't need any 'new' laws or regulations, just enforcement of the existing ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1velocity7 Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 e bikes should only assist pedalling by law. theres a youtuber dude stuff buys kits and fits em to mountain bikes. very informative. anyway he bypasses the pedal sensor and uses the thumb lever on the handlebars for acceleration it is a motorcycle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1velocity7 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 10 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: Regardless of whether they are hired or privately owned, they are a fucking nuisance! so are jet planes when you live under the flight path in a free world you should be free to use whatever you want to get around. we get taxxed enough many times ive thought about buying an e scooter, the fact that it could burn my house down is putting me off unless i build a metal waterproof box to store it in outside theres no difference to a twonk riding a private scooter and a twonk riding a scheme scooter so ban both or allow both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 13 hours ago, 1velocity7 said: so are jet planes when you live under the flight path But you are far less likely to be injured or maimed by a jet plane. 13 hours ago, 1velocity7 said: many times ive thought about buying an e scooter, the fact that it could burn my house down is putting me off unless i build a metal waterproof box to store it in outside It does puzzle me how companies can legally sell e-scooters here in the UK, yet in the main they are illegal to use. I don't know what causes these e-scooter fires, but you can bet some of these 'cheap Chinese units' probably don't meet required CE standards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1velocity7 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 7 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said: But you are far less likely to be injured or maimed by a jet plane. It does puzzle me how companies can legally sell e-scooters here in the UK, yet in the main they are illegal to use. I don't know what causes these e-scooter fires, but you can bet some of these 'cheap Chinese units' probably don't meet required CE standards. im sure more ppl are maimed by their house lol sunday a&e full of diyers the disclaimer makes it legal "must only be used on private land" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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