The SAS openly got away with murder in Afghanistan.

[numnuts]

I have been following this story over the years, ever since it first broke. First and foremost, it has to be said that the majority of SAS personnel, both former and current, must surely feel quite bad about this. It's very clear that innocent people, including children, were just executed in cold blood. I think that the Inquiry needs to focus more on why it happened, rather than just exposing the fact that it happened. I think that there are multiple reasons, as to why it happened. However, one particular reason, if I am correct, is quite disturbing.

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c07g40x1v53o     

 

'SAS had golden pass to get away with murder, inquiry told.'

 

A former senior UK Special Forces officer has told a public inquiry into alleged war crimes in Afghanistan that the SAS had a "golden pass allowing them to get away with murder". The accusation was published by the Afghanistan Inquiry on Wednesday as part of a release of material summarising seven closed hearings with members of UK Special Forces. The senior officer was one of several who registered concerns back in 2011 that the SAS appeared to be carrying out executions and covering them up. The inquiry, which is examining night raids by UKSF between 2010 and 2013, follows years of reporting by BBC Panorama into allegations of murder and cover up by the SAS.

 

Senior special forces officers told the inquiry of deep concerns that the regiment, fresh from aggressive, high-tempo operations in Iraq, was being driven by kill counts – the number of dead they could achieve in each operation. Another senior officer who gave evidence was asked whether he stood by his concerns in 2011 that the SAS was carrying out extra-judicial killings. "I thought and think that on at least some operations [the SAS] was carrying out murders," he said.

 

The documents released on Wednesday also reveal new details about an explosive meeting in Afghanistan in February 2011, during which the Afghan special forces that partnered the SAS angrily withdrew their support. The meeting followed a growing rift between the SAS and the Afghan special forces over what the Afghans saw as unlawful killings by members of the SAS. One Afghan officer present at the meeting was so incensed that he reportedly reached for his pistol.

[Jason57]

To be honest, the west got away with genocide since 2003 in the Middle East, none more so than Obama. Pricks the lot of them

[Screamingeagle]

 

warning disturbing photos

 

https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/in-the-dark/the-haditha-massacre-photos-that-the-military-didnt-want-the-world-to-see

 

same here !

 

 

[NeoScota]

18 minutes ago, Screamingeagle said:

 

warning disturbing photos

 

https://www.newyorker.com/podcast/in-the-dark/the-haditha-massacre-photos-that-the-military-didnt-want-the-world-to-see

 

same here !

 

 

There's something evil at play that goes beyond the horrors of combat making psychopaths out of soldiers.

 

Have listened to some who believed they were given something that hyped them up. I feel something could have been used on these SAS too. 

 

Or maybe I just want to lah lah lah such sickness away because I don't want to believe people are capable of this. 

[Dragon Slayer]

https://bylinetimes.com/2020/07/23/special-forces-operatives-are-high-functioning-psychopaths-what-happens-when-they-are-deployed-to-democratic-cities/

[Dragon Slayer]

2 minutes ago, Dragon Slayer said:

https://bylinetimes.com/2020/07/23/special-forces-operatives-are-high-functioning-psychopaths-what-happens-when-they-are-deployed-to-democratic-cities/

Apparently 12% of global and corporate leaders are pyschopaths aswell. More like 50%.

[Katsika]

23 hours ago, NeoScota said:

Have listened to some who believed they were given something that hyped them up. I feel something could have been used on these SAS too. 

Captagon?

 

"Captagon is a synthetic stimulant drug, originally developed in the 1960s for medical use***, primarily containing the active ingredient fenethylline. It has become widely known as an illicit drug, particularly in the Middle East, where it is associated with addiction and the funding of various conflicts."

 

*** it was supposedly a lighter version of speed and meth.

[SoundOfSilence]

On 1/11/2025 at 6:10 AM, Dragon Slayer said:

Apparently 12% of global and corporate leaders are pyschopaths aswell. More like 50%.

I suspect the true figures may be even higher.

 

The qualities required to succeed in politics are a perfect match for psychopathic traits. The ability to lie without remorse, libido dominandi and the lack of empathy required to elevate one's own interests above those of the electorate.

 

Those who succeed as CEOs also share the same traits.

 

Surprisingly (or perhaps not) doctors also rank high on the psychopathy scale.

 

 

[NeoScota]

On 1/11/2025 at 8:53 AM, Katsika said:

Captagon?

 

"Captagon is a synthetic stimulant drug, originally developed in the 1960s for medical use***, primarily containing the active ingredient fenethylline. It has become widely known as an illicit drug, particularly in the Middle East, where it is associated with addiction and the funding of various conflicts."

 

*** it was supposedly a lighter version of speed and meth.

Dunno, but the guy who told me was formerly in the Queens guard?, the ones who wear the big black furry hats. 

[Katsika]

34 minutes ago, NeoScota said:

Dunno, but the guy who told me was formerly in the Queens guard?, the ones who wear the big black furry hats. 

I know the ones, a Canadian Black Bear has to die for each hat

 

Coke is rife in the "security forces" but as far as I am aware, - (due to relatively short term intoxication) it probably wouldn't do the job needed  in Afghanistan - Captagon has been implicated in many massacres.

 

The Moths used amphetamines in the Vietnam war.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre

 

Edited January 12 by Katsika

[Katsika]

9 hours ago, SoundOfSilence said:

Surprisingly (or perhaps not) doctors also rank high on the psychopathy scale.

You missed out Gas Lighting as a characteristic - doctors seem to love to do that.

[SoundOfSilence]

1 hour ago, Katsika said:

I know the ones, a Canadian Black Bear has to die for each hat

 

Nah, from experience, you get way more than one hat out of a bear hide.

 

1 hour ago, Katsika said:

 

Coke is rife in the "security forces" but as far as I am aware, - (due to relatively short term intoxication) it probably wouldn't do the job needed  in Afghanistan - Captagon has been implicated in many massacres.

 

The Moths used amphetamines in the Vietnam war.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_massacre

 

 

You know a lot about drugs.

 

The military used to use Benzedrine Sulfate, a.k.a. Bennies.

[SoundOfSilence]

11 minutes ago, Katsika said:

You missed out Gas Lighting as a characteristic - doctors seem to love to do that.

I probably missed a lot of symptoms. 

 

Yes, gaslighting is absolutely a tool of the narcissist. 

 

As you probably know, the expression came from the 1944 film 'Gaslight' featuring Charles Boyer and Ingrid Bergman.

[Katsika]

13 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

I probably missed a lot of symptoms. 

 

Yes, gaslighting is absolutely a tool of the narcissist. 

 

As you probably know, the expression came from the 1944 film 'Gaslight' featuring Charles Boyer and Ingrid Bergman.

I loved that film - those two were great.  She was also brilliant in Inn of the Sixth Happiness and the King and I with Yul Brynner. 

 

20 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

You know a lot about drugs.

 

From personal experience I also know a lot about narcissistic gaslighting psychopaths.

[SoundOfSilence]

2 minutes ago, Katsika said:

I loved that film - those two were great.  She was also brilliant in Inn of the Sixth Happiness and the King and I with Yul Brynner. 

 

Wasn't that Deborah Kerr?

 

I haven't seen The Inn of Sixth Happiness. I will put it on my watchlist.

 

 

2 minutes ago, Katsika said:

 

From personal experience I also know a lot about narcissistic gaslighting psychopaths.

 

Very sorry to learn that. It can get very ugly. I hope it's all in the past.

 

No need to reply to this bit.

[Katsika]

41 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

Wasn't that Deborah Kerr?

Indeed it was - sorry - I went off on a memory jaunt because, as a punishment for something or other that my older sister had done, my Mother metered out a group punishment of not being allowed to see the film (first time round) - I then wafted on to other films I really enjoyed at that age.  I thought Yul Byrner was mesmerising and beautiful

[SoundOfSilence]

27 minutes ago, Katsika said:

Indeed it was - sorry - I went off on a memory jaunt because, as a punishment for something or other that my older sister had done, my Mother metered out a group punishment of not being allowed to see the film (first time round) - I then wafted on to other films I really enjoyed at that age.  I thought Yul Byrner was mesmerising and beautiful

 

That's very superficial of you.

 

But we're probably getting off topic by now.

[Katsika]

Just now, SoundOfSilence said:

 

That's very superficial of you.

I was only about 8 years old

[Dragon Slayer]

10 hours ago, SoundOfSilence said:

 

Nah, from experience, you get way more than one hat out of a bear hide.

 

 

You know a lot about drugs.

 

The military used to use Benzedrine Sulfate, a.k.a. Bennies.

Still common in UK amongst those that can't afford charlie. Wizz/ Billy. Great for doing chores..

[NeoScota]

3 minutes ago, Dragon Slayer said:

Still common in UK amongst those that can't afford charlie. Wizz/ Billy. Great for doing chores..

E's and wizz  

But the comedown.....ugh........

 

[Dragon Slayer]

Just now, NeoScota said:

E's and wizz  

But the comedown.....ugh........

 

What comedown?

[Freaky Dragonfly]

On 1/11/2025 at 8:53 AM, Katsika said:

Captagon?

 

"Captagon is a synthetic stimulant drug, originally developed in the 1960s for medical use***, primarily containing the active ingredient fenethylline. It has become widely known as an illicit drug, particularly in the Middle East, where it is associated with addiction and the funding of various conflicts."

 

*** it was supposedly a lighter version of speed and meth.

 

In '76 I was working in Iran near the Caspian Sea and everyone (male) was doing it. It was spread by the cross country lorry drivers. A bit like speed but not as strong. Until recent times and the Syrian connection, I haven't heard anything about it and I honestly thought it disappeared.

 

 

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

On 1/12/2025 at 6:40 AM, SoundOfSilence said:

The military used to use Benzedrine Sulfate, a.k.a. Bennies.

My late father was a bomber pilot in WWII. Crews were issued benzadrine to keep them awake during the long night flights over Germany. Mostly, he said, the gunners took the lion's share.

[Katsika]

1 hour ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

My late father was a bomber pilot in WWII. Crews were issued benzadrine to keep them awake during the long night flights over Germany. Mostly, he said, the gunners took the lion's share.

A very good friend of my late Dad was a rear gunner - your comment has solved an age old mystery for me as to why his friend was so alarmed when my Dad's doc prescribed him benzadrine - that came along with a script for barbiturates.  (This was around 1961).  Thank you

[lobster]

5 minutes ago, Katsika said:

A very good friend of my late Dad was a rear gunner - your comment has solved an age old mystery for me as to why his friend was so alarmed when my Dad's doc prescribed him benzadrine - that came along with a script for barbiturates.  (This was around 1961).  Thank you

Most of the armed forces were stoned out of their minds, most of the time in ww2. 

 

Back in those days airline pilots were taking speed and no one was shooting at them

Edited January 14 by lobster