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1 minute ago, lobster said:

Why has region 3 only got Japan in it ?

Why don't you research the club of Rome and council of 300 and say something useful instead of being a troll on here?

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16 minutes ago, cemeterycrow said:

Why don't you research the club of Rome and council of 300 and say something useful instead of being a troll on here?

I thought it was a reasonable question, region 5 has about a 5th of the earths land mass, region 3 is tiny, region 4 is split over two continent  a thousands  miles apart,  region 5 includes a load of countries that are now part of region 2. Its doesnt seem a very sensible way of spitting the world up into regions. 

 

If you dont know that's fine, I just thought you may

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10 minutes ago, lobster said:

If you dont know that's fine, I just thought you may

Look 'Lobster" I've seen you do this exact same thing using the exact same language and tactics to try and wind up other members on this forum.

 

It's not going to work on me go and troll someone else

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18 minutes ago, cemeterycrow said:

Look 'Lobster" I've seen you do this exact same thing using the exact same language and tactics to try and wind up other members on this forum.

 

It's not going to work on me go and troll someone else

It just intrigued me, you must admit it's a strange way to arrive at " kingdoms" here you get a whole continent,  and you just get japan. 

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7 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

Japan has a large population concentrated in a small area, compared to continents like Africa. I expect it's based on numbers of ppl rather than size in square miles.

It's much the same as the uk when it comes to population density,  as bit higher, but only a bit

 

The Philippines has a much higher population density, and that's group in with india, which its self has a higher population density  than either of the above

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1 hour ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

Japan has a large population concentrated in a small area, compared to continents like Africa. I expect it's based on numbers of ppl rather than size in square miles.

This is from duck duck AI :

 

"Region 3 in the Club of Rome's Morgenthau Group plan is designated to contain only Japan due to its unique economic and demographic characteristics, which set it apart from other countries in the region. Japan's advanced economy and specific challenges related to resource management and sustainability make it a distinct case for analysis."

 

By composing the right question Rock could have also found that in an instant but he may have been too busy pumping up his bicycle tyres 😀

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5 hours ago, lobster said:

Why has region 3 only got Japan in it ?

 

22 minutes ago, Katsika said:

 

This is from duck duck AI :

 

"Region 3 in the Club of Rome's Morgenthau Group plan is designated to contain only Japan due to its unique economic and demographic characteristics, which set it apart from other countries in the region. Japan's advanced economy and specific challenges related to resource management and sustainability make it a distinct case for analysis."

 

By composing the right question Rock could have also found that in an instant but he may have been too busy pumping up his bicycle tyres 😀

 

The Second Report to the Club of Rome, Mankind at the Turning Point, was written in 1974 by Mihajlo D. Mesarovic and Eduard C. Pestel. The post on X referred us to Bibliotecapleyades and on there I have found a full pdf copy of the book.

 

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf2/mankind-at-the-turning-point.pdf

 

Chapter 4 concerns the "multilevel model of world system" and figure 4.1 at page 38 includes the map of the 10 proposed regions.

 

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The rationale given for the above regions can be found on pages 40-41 as follows:

 

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The regionalisation was made in reference to shared tradition, history and style of life, the stage of economic development, socio-political arrangements, and the commonality of major problems which will eventually be encountered by these nations. The model does not presuppose any formal or informal regional supranational arrangements, although our analysis indicates quite strongly that there exists a need for the establishment of larger communities of nations in the developing world to create a better balance of political and economic power as well as of cultural influence among the world-regions. Some compromises had to be made in the process of regionalization and some changes will appear desirable for analysis of specific issues. For example, Region 9 should be subdivided into South Asia, containing Pakistan, India, Bangladesh and Srilanka, and Southeast Asia for detailed consideration of long-term food supply issues. In analyzing some other types of problems, the world system is represented in terms of some clusters of regions obtained from the original ten regions by aggregation. For example, the Developed World (Regions 1, 2, 3, and 4), the Socialist World (Regions 5 and 10), the Less Enveloped World (Regions 6, 7, 8, and 9). For still other issues only two regions are identified: the "North"—consisting of the Developed World and Eastern Europe, and the "South," consisting of the Less Developed World and China (Regions 6, 7, 8, 9 and 10).

 

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7 hours ago, cemeterycrow said:

What he's doing is furthering the cult agenda as instructed by his masters

 

 

Yikes. So your arguing he's an agent of the Club of Rome. That would explain why the media is going along with this.

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1 hour ago, Katsika said:

 

This is from duck duck AI :

 

"Region 3 in the Club of Rome's Morgenthau Group plan is designated to contain only Japan due to its unique economic and demographic characteristics, which set it apart from other countries in the region. Japan's advanced economy and specific challenges related to resource management and sustainability make it a distinct case for analysis."

 

By composing the right question Rock could have also found that in an instant but he may have been too busy pumping up his bicycle tyres 😀

In his defense, some people just like getting their answers from a human. 

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4 hours ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

 

 

The Second Report to the Club of Rome, Mankind at the Turning Point, was written in 1974 by Mihajlo D. Mesarovic and Eduard C. Pestel. The post on X referred us to Bibliotecapleyades and on there I have found a full pdf copy of the book.

 

https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/archivos_pdf2/mankind-at-the-turning-point.pdf

 

Chapter 4 concerns the "multilevel model of world system" and figure 4.1 at page 38 includes the map of the 10 proposed regions.

 

image.png.9aabad26b85b5c8d3752564894a31171.png

 

The rationale given for the above regions can be found on pages 40-41 as follows:

 

 

Thanks very interesting,  il read the attachment, the first point that jumps out at me, is the original map doesnt include greenland,( or iceland come to that )but the one on  x purporting to be an accurate facsimile does, ? 

 

I wonder if someone had added that in the last few days

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7 hours ago, cemeterycrow said:

 

The whole concept of nation states is really a 20th century invention, a little bit of 18th but mostly 20th, preceding that the world was ran for 500 years by the british, the french, the ottomans and  the Spanish with guest appearances from the Portuguese,  the germans the Japanese  and the russians. But mostly the first four

 

It wasnt one world government, but four and they spent well over a 100 years,  fighting a war over who would be the main world government,  which was mostly won by the british. The world being divided in to a few power blocks , which each operated under central control is the rule rather than the exception .

 

A plan to return to that model is really an acceptance that the world worked better in the age of empires than it currently does with 200 different govenments each doing there own thing.

 

That canada and the USA are different countries is just a quirk of the conflict between Spain, france and britain in the 1700s and not a practical arrangement based on it being a better idea to have it that way.

 

In practical rather than political terms they are all ready one country, so dependent is Canada on the USA  economic ally,  even politically they can pretend to be independent,  but can only enact policies that align with american policy

 

This is an historic perspective,  not me saying I think it's a good idea

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