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We now know that he wasn't shot before the explosion.

 

I have attached a couple of screenshots from Daniel Davies channel.

 

Livelsberger can be seen sitting upright in the driver's seat. Head intact. No bullet damage in the car window.

 

It's clearer on a large screen TV.

 

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This shot is when the explosion starts. Livelsberger is illuminated in the driver's seat, head intact.

 

Also note that the fire starts inside the cabin where he is seated. Not where the alleged bomb was.

 

The claim about the fuel and fireworks being the bomb is nonsense.

 

Either there was a sophisticated device placed in the front of the vehicle or there was a battery detonation. Perhaps the batteries can be detonated remotely. Hack the car, turn off all the safety chips to prevent battery fires and redirect the current. 

 

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Apparently, a couple of handguns and an AR15 were found inside the cabin. Burnt beyond recognition.

 

Although, his phone, containing a suicide note that he hadn't sent anyone, was recovered from inside the burnt-out vehicle. I am sure that narrative will change once people start laughing at the investigators.

 

It seems that tattoos, paper documents and now phones are fireproof.

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3 hours ago, SoundOfSilence said:

 

 

It seems that tattoos, paper documents and now phones are fireproof.


Has been this way since 2001. Im surprised firefighters don’t just tattoo their entire bodies before walking into an inferno

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On 1/3/2025 at 6:10 AM, SoundOfSilence said:

Something seems to be going on at Fort Bragg, now known as Fort Liberty.

 

William Kreutzer Jr. - Wikipedia 

 

"William J. Kreutzer Jr. (born 1969) is a former United States Army soldier who was convicted of killing one officer and wounding 18 other soldiers when he opened fire on a physical training formation on October 27, 1995, at Fort Bragg, North Carolina.[1] Kreutzer was sentenced to death, but his sentence was later commuted to life in prison by the Army Court of Criminal Appeals in connection with concerns regarding mental illness."

 

The Womack Army Medical Center is a facility at Fort Liberty.

 

Service Member Behavioral Health 

 

"The Womack Service Member Behavioral Health Line has a longstanding reputation for providing quality services and programs to include: evaluation and management of psychotropic medications, individual and group psychotherapy, diagnostic evaluation and psychological testing, neuropsychological services, command evaluations, 24-hour on-call emergency care."

 

An Uncomfortable Truth: Does the Rise of Antidepressants and SSRIs Fuel Mass Shootings? | Psychreg 

 

 

Fort Bragg has appeared on The Simpsons too, the TV series were almost everything happens a few years before it does in real life.

 

 

https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Fort_Fragg

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6 hours ago, pete675 said:

 

Fort Bragg has appeared on The Simpsons too, the TV series were almost everything happens a few years before it does in real life.

 

 

https://simpsons.fandom.com/wiki/Fort_Fragg

It's home of the 4th Psychological Operations Group.

 

4th POG(A) Home 

 

According to its website:

 

"PSYOP Forces are Masters of Influence – the core of information warfare. We conduct influence activities to target psychological vulnerabilities and create or intensify fissures, confusion, and doubt in adversary organizations. We use all available means of dissemination – from sensitive and high tech, to low-tech, to no-tech, and methods from overt, to clandestine, to deception."

 

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And the 8th Psychological Operations Group.

 

8th MISG (A) Sponsorship

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17 hours ago, SoundOfSilence said:

We now know that he wasn't shot before the explosion.

 

I have attached a couple of screenshots from Daniel Davies channel.

 

Livelsberger can be seen sitting upright in the driver's seat. Head intact. No bullet damage in the car window.

 

It's clearer on a large screen TV.

 

image.png.e579cfe291fca5cbdd1d2cd4a5ea44c4.png

 

This shot is when the explosion starts. Livelsberger is illuminated in the driver's seat, head intact.

 

Also note that the fire starts inside the cabin where he is seated. Not where the alleged bomb was.

 

The claim about the fuel and fireworks being the bomb is nonsense.

 

Either there was a sophisticated device placed in the front of the vehicle or there was a battery detonation. Perhaps the batteries can be detonated remotely. Hack the car, turn off all the safety chips to prevent battery fires and redirect the current. 

 

image.png.2dd693d2a74c761e0120f8969867226c.png

 

Apparently, a couple of handguns and an AR15 were found inside the cabin. Burnt beyond recognition.

 

Although, his phone, containing a suicide note that he hadn't sent anyone, was recovered from inside the burnt-out vehicle. I am sure that narrative will change once people start laughing at the investigators.

 

It seems that tattoos, paper documents and now phones are fireproof.

 

That is very weird that his body heated up to such an extent, to achieve that the heat would have to be extremely high within the car.

 

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14 hours ago, SimonTV said:

 

That is very weird that his body heated up to such an extent, to achieve that the heat would have to be extremely high within the car.

 

I suspect the high heat was from the lithium-ion battery. They burn at about 500 C or roughly 1,000 F.

 

Either the battery was the primary cause or a secondary effect. Nevertheless, it is inconceivable that it didn't detonate thereby producing very high heat.

 

EVs burn hotter and longer than normal vehicle fires. Not enough to damage a cell phone though ...

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This is just clown world.

 

Tesla Cybertruck bomber used ChatGPT to plan Las Vegas attack, police say - CBS News 

 

"The decorated soldier behind the Tesla Cybertruck bombing outside the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas last week used the artificial intelligence platform ChatGPT to plan the New Year's Day attack, law enforcement said Tuesday."  ... "This is the first incident that I'm aware of on U.S. soil where ChatGPT is utilized to help an individual build a particular device."

 

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You are the terrorist. Do you:

 

A. Rely on your 19 years of special forces and explosives training and make a sophisticated and reliable device?

B. Smuggle explosives off of a military base?

C. Consult your old army manuals?

D. Rely on Chat GPT?

 

"Officials are still working to determine what exactly detonated the explosion, but said it could have been the muzzle flash from the firearm Livelsberger used to fatally shoot himself."

 

Well, it always works in the movies ...

 

Given the blast started in the footwell of the vehicle I assume he discharged the weapon with his feet.

 

"Koren said a review of a note on Livelsberger's phone showed that Livelsberger believed people were following him."

 

Of course, that is why he would carry a cell phone through which he could be easily followed and why he would choose one of the easiest to track vehicles on the market.

 

Those 19 years of field craft really paid off.

 

"McMahill said investigators also still need to recover information from a laptop, a mobile phone and a smartwatch."

 

No doubt all recovered from inside the vehicle.

 

And they wonder why nobody trusts them.

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On 1/5/2025 at 7:31 AM, SoundOfSilence said:

"PSYOP Forces are Masters of Influence – the core of information warfare. We conduct influence activities to target psychological vulnerabilities and create or intensify fissures, confusion, and doubt in adversary organizations. We use all available means of dissemination – from sensitive and high tech, to low-tech, to no-tech, and methods from overt, to clandestine, to deception."

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Katsika said:

 

 

 

 

The other interesting anomaly is the identification.

 

Apparently, investigators compared the DNA of the burned corpse recovered from the vehicle with Livelsberger's son, concluding that the son wasn't Livelsberger's.

 

I wonder why his DNA wasn't matched against his military records?

 

Was it even Livelsberger in the car?

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