antayat Posted December 20, 2024 Share Posted December 20, 2024 What if David is wrong about Trump. What if we don't view him as a hero savior but a figure head willing to take the slings and arrows for humanity to thrive? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evanslr Posted December 20, 2024 Share Posted December 20, 2024 (edited) Sure he can be wrong. I mean, David still thinks the Earth is a globe and the evidence is overwhelming that we don't live on a ball. But as for Trump, I see him as part of the club. He still calls himself "Father of the Vaccine" and doesn't even acknowledge that the COVID vaccines have caused harm. He's playing his part on the world stage, like every other politician and people like Alex Jones are the same. Icke is really the only person who hasn't "turned", Body Snatcher style. Edited December 20, 2024 by evanslr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJ Posted December 20, 2024 Share Posted December 20, 2024 40 minutes ago, evanslr said: Sure he can be wrong. I mean, David still thinks the Earth is a globe and the evidence is overwhelming that we don't live on a ball. But as for Trump, I see him as part of the club. He still calls himself "Father of the Vaccine" and doesn't even acknowledge that the COVID vaccines have caused harm. He's playing his part on the world stage, like every other politician and people like Alex Jones are the same. Icke is really the only person who hasn't "turned", Body Snatcher style. Perhaps everything is just a matter of belief. The shape of the planet is irrelevant and an obvious place to start an argument. If folks were less dogmatic we could have a much more balanced life and planet. The mass belief creates what we see. Go look at quantum science ...all is energy, therfore everything is manifested by us. Those who need a saviour believe in that, those who don't, won't. It really does not matter. We have the ability to rise above all the infighting, should we choose it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oakwise Posted December 20, 2024 Share Posted December 20, 2024 Of course Mr Icke can be wrong. It's unreasonable to expect one man to be right about everything while possessing all the answers to the most pressing questions. However, I don't think he's wrong about Trump. I'm >95% certain he's right. To be honest, the statement within your question seems pretty contradictory. To take on the 'slings and arrows for humanity to thrive' is a pretty heroic deed, wouldn't you agree? It suggests Mr Trump is sacrificing something for the good of humanity. Yet you also claim (perhaps hypothetically) you don't see him as a 'hero savior figure'. Maybe I'm missing something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Crabtree Posted December 21, 2024 Share Posted December 21, 2024 Trump, friend of Epstein, father of the vaccine and a vaccine enabler, good god, what is there NOT to like? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted December 21, 2024 Share Posted December 21, 2024 I'm not interested in where he could be wrong. This includes everything that concerns the dream state here. It is beyond the system to determine what reality is. ;) The system has no more control over existence than the individual who comes here. It would be pointless to fathom the motives of an extremely sophisticated intelligence. Because neither concepts nor technology have been made accessible to humans. To explore it on an equal level. All that remains are dreams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted January 28 Share Posted January 28 On 12/20/2024 at 1:54 PM, antayat said: What if David is wrong about Trump. What if we don't view him as a hero savior but a figure head willing to take the slings and arrows for humanity to thrive? Can David be wrong ever? The short answer is 'yes'. But that all depends on your own belief really. It requires you to be able to make up your own mind and to think for yourself. That's the whole point of this. Many people have lost the ability to think for themselves, and have become encapsulated into a 'hive-mind', whether they think so or not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason57 Posted February 8 Share Posted February 8 I do wonder where David gets his info. I remember him saying he used to see a psychic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammal vs. reptile Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 It is a fair question to ask can David be wrong about Trump. Trump is pushing back against the deep state which would explain the assassination attempts. JFK pushed back and was assassinated. Trump opposes globalism, opposes progressive woke madness, and questions the science of climate change. On the other hand, Trump supports the transhumanism agenda which is probably the illuminati's number one priority at this point and has Musk, with an estimated net worth of US$343 billion, at his side as senior adviser! SpaceX began deploying satellites into low Earth orbit in 2019, ostensibly to provide satellite internet access. In 2016, Musk co-founded neurotechnology startup Neuralink. Neuralink's stated aim is to integrate the human brain with artificial intelligence. My hypothesis is the transhumanism agenda is to put a microchip in the brain and control the human population remotely via communications infrastructure run by artificial intelligence. In another thread, someone posted Trump is playing both sides which I thought was a good call. The fact he is playing both sides makes me think they have him under control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piero Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Trump says he opposes globalists, but he acts a lot like one. He certainly doesn't believe that his country's own interests should be constrained by anything as boring as national borders! Elon Musk also has interests all over the globe, so how can he say he's not a globalist? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piero Posted March 9 Share Posted March 9 Trump is a product of borderless capitalism. With global business interests, it'd be ironic if America turns out to be the committed globalist of them all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mammal vs. reptile Posted March 11 Share Posted March 11 Well, his economic and immigration policies are anti-globalism. The American Heritage Dictionary defines “globalism” as, “An ideology based on the belief that people, goods and information ought to be able to cross national borders unfettered.” At the same time, you are right to say he is a product of borderless capitalism with global business interests. I checked that that is factual, and found out that in his 2016 financial disclosure, Trump acknowledged having 144 companies with dealings in 25 countries. The same article reported his international business ties are unknown because he refused to release his tax returns. But are we talking about Trump the businessman or Trump the politician? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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