NeoScota Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 3 hours ago, theo102 said: That's BS The wicked [shall be] a ransom for the righteous, and the transgressor for the upright. Proverbs 21:18 He's referred to prophetically in Isaiah 53 and Psalm 35 He shall see of the travail of his soul, [and] shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities. Isaiah 53:11 Let them shout for joy, and be glad, that favour my righteous cause: yea, let them say continually, Let YHWH be magnified, which hath pleasure in the prosperity of his servant. And my tongue shall speak of thy righteousness [and] of thy praise all the day long. Psalms 35:27-28 I said the law, not the prophecies, for there were both truth and lies in the old testament, due to man being natural and not imbued by the Holy Spirit (which only happened after Iesus' resurrection). So they didn't get everything right, and found themselves worshipping YHWH who was the devil himself. Even David described YHWH as smoke coming from its nostrils etc. A fiery serpent in other words. It's prob better I include a link regarding this law and Iesus paying the ransom (fulfillment in greek) for it. https://youtu.be/FdEiEyuAEVU?feature=shared 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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theo102 Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 44 minutes ago, NeoScota said: imbued by the Holy Spirit (which only happened after Iesus' resurrection). It didn't happen. And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 1 Corinthians 15:4 There's no scriptural support for that, the closest matches are Hosea 6:2 and Isaiah 53:8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoScota Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 1 hour ago, theo102 said: It didn't happen. And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 1 Corinthians 15:4 There's no scriptural support for that, the closest matches are Hosea 6:2 and Isaiah 53:8 Ok you're just another argumentative type so won't be getting baited into your BS. All the best, God wins, not Lucyfer ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 1 hour ago, NeoScota said: Ok you're just another argumentative type so won't be getting baited into your BS. It's not BS. Paul's doctrine wasn't validated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 1 hour ago, theo102 said: It's not BS. Paul's doctrine wasn't validated. Out of interest, how does any religious doctrine get validated? Asking for a friend 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_evans Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 9 hours ago, NeoScota said: The law of Moses given to him by YHWH (aka Lucifer) is not relevant as Iesus would often contradict it using statements as "it is said in their law.......but I say....." Iesus never claimed tye law as His or His Father. His death paid the ransom of this law, that's what is meant by Him fulfilling the law as His death freed us all from the bondage of these laws. The resurgence of the hebrew and even messianic Jewish festivals and laws are a form of entrapment, made covenant by people circumcising themselves who think they do so in good faith. But they are only blood tying themselves in allegiance to Lucifer by doing so. As for the circumcision, here's the passage I was quoting in full context as He is having it out with the Pharisees/multitudes. But is it real or a forgery? Was it written by Mary M? How good is the translation from 1st century Greek to Old French (or possibly Occitan) to English? I find the fact that it is produced in a "difficult" typeface makes it feel dubious. Since the original text is not available, no one knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_evans Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 14 minutes ago, Campion said: Out of interest, how does any religious doctrine get validated? Asking for a friend Well, it's the one followed by all those who didn't get a) executed for heresy or b) fed up and founded a new religion/cult 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 2 hours ago, Campion said: Out of interest, how does any religious doctrine get validated? Asking for a friend By providing information that could only reasonably be explained as being from deity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobster Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 (edited) 11 minutes ago, theo102 said: By providing information that could only reasonably be explained as being from deity. If could only come from a deity, there would be no way of validating it was true, if there was ,we could work it out for ourselves and wouldnt need the deity Edited December 29, 2024 by lobster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 16 minutes ago, lobster said: If could only come from a deity, there would be no way of validating it was true, if there was ,we could work it out for ourselves and wouldnt need the deity No, an example would be a specific prediction of an unlikely future event relating to the existence of deity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 Reports have also added that the European Union’s Radioactive Environmental Monitoring surprisingly found that the amount of radiation increased in Turkey and Cyprus 20 hours after the intense blast, pointing towards a small nuclear attack. https://www.india.com/news/did-israel-explode-a-small-nuclear-bomb-in-syria-spike-in-radiation-report-says-7490316/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 5 hours ago, Campion said: Out of interest, how does any religious doctrine get validated? Asking for a friend An example: For the seal of the prophets, the illiterate man protests that he can't read the book and a seal is pressed. https://biblehub.com/interlinear/isaiah/29-12.htm https://sunnah.com/bukhari:4953 https://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=33&verse=40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobster Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 11 hours ago, theo102 said: No, an example would be a specific prediction of an unlikely future event relating to the existence of deity. Do deities have knowledge of the future ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 9 hours ago, theo102 said: An example: For the seal of the prophets, the illiterate man protests that he can't read the book and a seal is pressed. https://biblehub.com/interlinear/isaiah/29-12.htm https://sunnah.com/bukhari:4953 https://corpus.quran.com/translation.jsp?chapter=33&verse=40 Scriptures can be validated and believed within the confines of the religion itself, if you're prepared to accept the authority of other people. For me though, personal experience is the main thing which validates spiritual teachings. 'Seal' is a bit of an ambiguous term though, it might mean to close something up from the outside world, or it was used as wax seals in olden days as a kind of signature on letters and envelopes. Anyway we're getting off topic so I'll leave it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoScota Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 16 hours ago, k_j_evans said: But is it real or a forgery? Was it written by Mary M? How good is the translation from 1st century Greek to Old French (or possibly Occitan) to English? I find the fact that it is produced in a "difficult" typeface makes it feel dubious. Since the original text is not available, no one knows. Yeah I wasn't up on the text however, it is from France, and as with anything, YOU will use your own spiritual discernment along with the Holy Spirit to see if it resonates. Blowing something off because of the font is not discernment. The transcript itself has been protected over centuries as many were executed for this text as the fight was on to have their xtian religion established for the masses. My own experience of this particular subject started with an 18 day fast in 2008 (when I used to be on old DIF) and I read the passage about the commandment to circumcise in a fasted state from my old bible. It looked to be a cut and paste job energetically. I kept coming back to this subject and I asked Iesus for further guidance. Ended up randomly being led to this book and bought it for myself. My own thoughts/feelings were if God wanted babies circumcised, then He would have created them circumcised already. Then I read that passage the next day. That's how God can work with us, well those of us willing to seek the truth in Him and not just rely on 66 books of the kjv (I don't idolise a book) As for the whole gospel, the teaching from Iesus to Miryam the Migdalah and from Her to the apostles was on another level, it would have changed us spiritually. Hence why they could never let it out. Anyway back to Syria being bombed by Lucifers chosen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 4 hours ago, Campion said: 'Seal' is a bit of an ambiguous term though, it might mean to close something up from the outside world, or it was used as wax seals in olden days as a kind of signature on letters and envelopes. The majority Islamic opinion is that it means finality, but here it means authenticity or validation. It relates to knowledge being revealed. It's relevant to the conflict in Syria because the conflict is driven by religious prejudice and knowledge defeats prejudice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_evans Posted December 29, 2024 Share Posted December 29, 2024 3 hours ago, NeoScota said: Yeah I wasn't up on the text however, it is from France, and as with anything, YOU will use your own spiritual discernment along with the Holy Spirit to see if it resonates. Blowing something off because of the font is not discernment. The transcript itself has been protected over centuries as many were executed for this text as the fight was on to have their xtian religion established for the masses. My own experience of this particular subject started with an 18 day fast in 2008 (when I used to be on old DIF) and I read the passage about the commandment to circumcise in a fasted state from my old bible. It looked to be a cut and paste job energetically. I kept coming back to this subject and I asked Iesus for further guidance. Ended up randomly being led to this book and bought it for myself. My own thoughts/feelings were if God wanted babies circumcised, then He would have created them circumcised already. Then I read that passage the next day. That's how God can work with us, well those of us willing to seek the truth in Him and not just rely on 66 books of the kjv (I don't idolise a book) As for the whole gospel, the teaching from Iesus to Miryam the Migdalah and from Her to the apostles was on another level, it would have changed us spiritually. Hence why they could never let it out. Anyway back to Syria being bombed by Lucifers chosen Your "they" aren't my "they" in this context. I don't think my "they" care what "channel" a prophet used, and also don't think you should worship (or capitalise) any one/thing except the Creator. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted December 31, 2024 Share Posted December 31, 2024 On 12/26/2024 at 7:18 AM, theo102 said: According to Ted Postol, who is a bit of a guru on this, the blast does not display the signature of a nuclear weapon. I watched him being interviewed on Dialogue Works and he showed photos of the Syrian blast compared with the Trinity explosion. There is a massive difference. The difference in blast signatures is so extreme that it is certain that it was not a nuclear weapon used in Syria. Here is the interview if anyone is interested. One hour and seventeen minutes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoScota Posted December 31, 2024 Share Posted December 31, 2024 On 12/29/2024 at 6:42 PM, k_j_evans said: Your "they" aren't my "they" in this context. I don't think my "they" care what "channel" a prophet used, and also don't think you should worship (or capitalise) any one/thing except the Creator. Blah blah.... I couldn't find the italics ....chill Winston Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Slayer Posted January 1 Share Posted January 1 @SoundOfSilence Hoping 2025 reveals 1).You are an actual Female(wooh huuu) 2).You are not related to Tobias Elwood. 3). You won't fade away, but continue to speak your brilliant mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 5 hours ago, Dragon Slayer said: @SoundOfSilence Hoping 2025 reveals 1).You are an actual Female(wooh huuu) Sorry no. And I don't identify as one either. The Olympic boxing career is permanently on hold. My avatar is an actress. Greta Garbo. 5 hours ago, Dragon Slayer said: 2).You are not related to Tobias Elwood. I don't think so. 5 hours ago, Dragon Slayer said: 3). You won't fade away, but continue to speak your brilliant mind. You're very kind. Thank you. I'll try not to. Sometimes I get busy with other things. But I'll do my best. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack121 Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 Sorry to be so dense, i don't understand why iran and israel are being shown by the msm as hating each other: Above is a picture of iran's main parliament building shaped like a pyramid with 33 windows Below is the speaker's chair with a massiver X above it Could't be more clear than that 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Slayer Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 14 minutes ago, jack121 said: Sorry to be so dense, i don't understand why iran and israel are being shown by the msm as hating each other: Above is a picture of iran's main parliament building shaped like a pyramid with 33 windows Below is the speaker's chair with a massiver X above it Could't be more clear than that You are forgetting we are all thick as shit peasants who can't wead or wite. Innit'.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theo102 Posted January 3 Share Posted January 3 "Israel is burning children alive..." Josephine Guilbeau, congressional hearing https://files.catbox.moe/l5nj7e.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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