jack121 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 On 12/28/2024 at 4:46 PM, cemeterycrow said: Did she really have cancer, Or was this to help push through the assisted dying bill to the sheep ? Is there really a wonder drug, or is putting forward a story to explain why she is continuing to live on with no visible symptoms for the sheep to see. Once a liar, always a liar ? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack121 Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 On 12/11/2024 at 4:03 PM, Nemuri Kyoshiro said: Tough one. 10 years ago, my cat was very sick with lymphoma and was dying. Every time I tried to take her to the vet, she would rally. In the end, she passed away quietly in my wife's arms. Now to my point. It has haunted me since then that I caused her to suffer needlessly by allowing her to carry on and not stepping in. Maybe that's my own guilt and the cat was happy to pass away the way she did, I don't know. But as for allowing a relative to send me off with the push of a button, some of mine would relish the chance. My mother died a few years ago. She loved life and lived every minute of it. Despite the pain and suffering she never threw in the towel, she loved spending time with her children, watching them grow, meeting up with her friends, going out, despite being in a wheelchair 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cemeterycrow Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 24 minutes ago, jack121 said: Did she really have cancer, Or was this to help push through the assisted dying bill to the sheep ? Is there really a wonder drug, or is putting forward a story to explain why she is continuing to live on with no visible symptoms for the sheep to see. Once a liar, always a liar ? Who knows with Rantzen. What we do know is the closest she'll be getting to Switzerland is cramming a Toblerone in her gob 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 9 hours ago, jack121 said: Once a liar, always a liar ? Yup. Push the agenda has been their lifelong purpose. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted January 18 Author Share Posted January 18 (edited) 9 hours ago, cemeterycrow said: Who knows with Rantzen. Nothing would surprise me... Edited January 18 by numnuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted January 29 Author Share Posted January 29 (edited) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cge72eyzjl9o 'Keep assisted dying laws simple, says Whitty.' England's chief medical officer Prof Sir Chris Whitty has urged MPs to not overly complicate assisted dying laws if they are to introduce it. Giving evidence to a committee of MPs, he said the best safeguards were the simple ones and said there was a risk patients could end up in a "bureaucratic thicket" at the end of life if there was too much to navigate. Edited January 29 by numnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observations Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 (edited) On 12/18/2024 at 10:40 AM, itsnotallrightjack said: Do any of you welcome the kind of death where you lie in your own waste, dribbling and confused, unable to control your bowels, or even swallow some water? That's the reality for many terminal illnesses. I'd much rather go with an injection or pill to send me to sleep than that. Our beloved pets are given dignified peaceful deaths why are humans expected to die in indignities and agony? With much respect I gather some of the deaths you speak of are already taken care of, by making people ‘comfortable’. Even ten years ago I heard nurses whispering about this in the corridor. We have had some interesting Midazolam conversations on the DIF. In my experience that drug and Morphine are used, to bring a death forward. Patients have died, partly in that way from thirst and not able to communicate. They call this ‘dying with dignity’, or being ‘made comfortable’? It’s typical that this isn’t openly mentioned when the assisted dying bill is in the house. It’s such a bloody cheek?! It’s wrong to make out that no one is assisted already? It’s not an easy subject and I would prefer it to be between a patient and a doctor. I meant to add that I realise now that I’ve written this … I appreciate that your comment might be pointing to those late interventions, where a patient although ‘assisted’, may be considered to be suffering for too long? The new system would bring a death considerably further forward than at present? I don’t just mean pension age! I can add here in a truth is stranger than fiction way, that the little pill was for anyone over the age of 65 in Star Trek!? Edited January 31 by Observations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 On 1/18/2025 at 8:08 AM, cemeterycrow said: Who knows with Rantzen. What we do know is the closest she'll be getting to Switzerland is cramming a Toblerone in her gob I notice it's all gone quiet again regarding Fester Rancid. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted February 12 Author Share Posted February 12 So, the story now is that no one thought to check on the ability of the High Court to hear enough cases. Hmm. This bill, before being initially passed, was heavily sold with the High Court caveat attached. We were all told that everything was as robust as it could possibly be. If everything was as robust as it could possibly be, then how can these new proposals make the bill any more robust? This is exactly what some of the bill's supporters are now claiming. Sounds like bullshit to me. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2egl17pvldo 'MP behind assisted dying bill suggests scrapping High Court approval.' Assisted dying cases would no longer have to be signed off by the High Court under changes suggested by the bill's supporters. The proposed law currently says a High Court judge must check each person is eligible and has not been coerced into making the decision to die. But BBC News has been told Kim Leadbeater, the Labour MP behind the bill, will suggest replacing this with a panel of experts who would oversee applications. It comes after concerns were raised over the court's capacity to hear each individual case. Leadbeater said the changes "will make the system even more robust". However, some opponents of the bill are likely to criticise the move as watering down its safeguards. Leadbeater argued this was not removing judicial scrutiny but changing it to a "judge plus" model. However, she previously hailed the role of the High Court as part of "three layers of scrutiny" that made it "the strongest, most robust piece of legislation on this issue in the world". The proposal will be voted on by a committee of MPs scrutinising the bill. The members were chosen by Leadbeater and the majority support the legislation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted February 13 Share Posted February 13 "Panel of experts". Right, that's all okay then. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talorgan Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 (edited) I think the Plan is to eventually Replace our individual abilities to make decisions with panels of Experts , with help of training , conditioning ,chemicals ,etc so eventually people won't be able to make individual decisions themselves but rely on authority figures to make decisions for them & so we don't see the goal posts moving faster Eg Canada bit further down same path; https://expose-news.com/2025/02/14/canadian-veterans-are-offered-euthanasia/ Edited February 14 by Talorgan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted February 26 Author Share Posted February 26 (edited) https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c78ed70qep7o 'First place in British Isles set to approve right to die.' A law to give terminally ill adults on the Isle of Man the right to end their own lives is entering its final stages, making it potentially the first jurisdiction in the British Isles to legalise assisted dying. Anyone over the age of 18 and with a prognosis of 12 months or fewer to live would be eligible, under the legislation being debated in the Manx parliament. Agreement is still needed on whether to cut the residency criteria from five years to 12 months before being able to access the scheme. The move comes as MPs in Westminster are scrutinising a bill that would legalise assisted dying in England and Wales. A separate bill is under discussion in Scotland. People on the Isle of Man eligible to request assisted dying would have to: Be terminally ill and "reasonably expected" to die within 12 months Be over the age of 18 Be registered with an Isle of Man GP Have the legal capacity to make the decision Have the decision verified by two independent doctors Edited February 26 by numnuts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dumbcritic Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 It gets worse (by design) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fool Me Once Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) On 2/26/2025 at 7:11 PM, numnuts said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c78ed70qep7o 'First place in British Isles set to approve right to die.' A law to give terminally ill adults on the Isle of Man the right to end their own lives is entering its final stages, making it potentially the first jurisdiction in the British Isles to legalise assisted dying. Anyone over the age of 18 and with a prognosis of 12 months or fewer to live would be eligible, under the legislation being debated in the Manx parliament. Agreement is still needed on whether to cut the residency criteria from five years to 12 months before being able to access the scheme. The move comes as MPs in Westminster are scrutinising a bill that would legalise assisted dying in England and Wales. A separate bill is under discussion in Scotland. People on the Isle of Man eligible to request assisted dying would have to: Be terminally ill and "reasonably expected" to die within 12 months Be over the age of 18 Be registered with an Isle of Man GP Have the legal capacity to make the decision Have the decision verified by two independent doctors This is "pure" Satanic psychopathy at work. I wouldn't trust a doctor now to diagnose a runny nose. Without going into too much detail I know someone who years ago was given days to live. They lived another 10 years, albeit disabled, and only died then because another quack jabbed them against their advocate's instructions which accelerated their demise. Doctors are moneygrubbing pillpushing NPCs who would recommend peeing on you to cure warts if it made themselves a Shilling. Edited March 6 by Fool Me Once 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 On 2/1/2025 at 12:57 PM, webtrekker said: I notice it's all gone quiet again regarding Fester Rancid. Sadly the creature's reappeared in the media with stories of how her "wonder drug" has "stopped working". Great timing for those looking to push the Bill through (for which Rancid is, as always, their go-to provocateur). When the Bill looked to be too unpopular, she found a drug that stopped them needing to swan off to Switzerland. Now it's gaining traction again, oh look the drug doesn't work anymore. Stench of BS is, naturally, rancid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 On 2/14/2025 at 7:06 PM, Talorgan said: I think the Plan is to eventually Replace our individual abilities to make decisions with panels of Experts , with help of training , conditioning ,chemicals ,etc so eventually people won't be able to make individual decisions themselves but rely on authority figures to make decisions for them You've essentially described how a Technocracy works! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cemeterycrow Posted June 19 Share Posted June 19 Dame Esther Rantzen’s daughter has appealed for the public and MPs to grant her mum’s birthday wish by supporting the assisted dying bill on Friday. Quote A crunch vote on the landmark legislation will take place just days before the veteran broadcaster is due to celebrate a milestone she once feared she would not see, when she turns 85 on Sunday. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2070516/esther-rantzen-assisted-dying-bill Quote Rebecca Wilcox, 45, told the Express: “If the bill passes [Friday's] vote, it will be an absolutely wonderful 85th birthday present for my mother and our family — and will give hope to thousands of terminally ill people today and for years to come. It's been two years now since Rantzen registered with Dignitas. Are they keeping her around until it passes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talorgan Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Brave New World then 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainlove Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 So they are passing the bill today are they, in one week abortion and assited death. Seems like the world is going to hell, 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainlove Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Wait until gates or someone gets hold of a clinic for assited dying. Just see kanada if you want to know whats coming. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagdog19 Posted June 20 Share Posted June 20 Murder Incorporated UK 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freaky Dragonfly Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 On 6/20/2025 at 7:10 PM, wagdog19 said: Murder Incorporated UK They are getting us from both ends. On the way in and on the way out. Full spectrum dominance, as they say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainlove Posted July 23 Share Posted July 23 Interesting story this one, dont know what is true or not diffent stories in other places, https://nypost.com/2025/07/23/entertainment/ozzy-osbournes-daughter-kelly-denied-black-sabbath-rocker-had-suicide-pact-with-wife-sharon-weeks-before-his-death/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talorgan Posted September 7 Share Posted September 7 (edited) "Your last chance to stop politicians introducing euthanasia to the UK Is an Article by "; Dr Vernon Coleman at https://www.vernoncoleman.com/main.htm --September house of lords will decide to pass ( or not) Leadbeater Bill to allow doctor-assisted suicide. Dr Coleman's free PDF book "`The Big Kill’ - is Britain's Euthanasia Bill Just Another Step In the Depopulation Plan" &/or Dr Jack Kings book; "Anyone who tells you that doctor-assisted suicide is always dignified and painless is lying: Here's the proof" IE. are to Inform them all in in Lords & MPs if they don't know what's wrong with it (And if we don't know to inform ourselves ) Or be propaganda moulded /used-- Edward Bernays style into this brave new world Edited September 7 by Talorgan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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