numnuts Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 (edited) Regardless of the pros and cons of legalising assisted dying, it was very obvious that the PTB were very keen to get a law in place. The mass media, while trying to give the impression of impartiality, were clearly heavily biased towards the pro camp. The PTB's online armies were also out in force, on the comments sections of all news websites and on all forms of social media. From a societal point of view and even if there was no PTB agenda, while acknowledging the existence of some very difficult cases, I think that I would have left things as they were. For starters, fixing a lacking palliative care system, although it wouldn't solve everything, would definitely make a difference. It's a shame that the legitimate pro camp couldn't at least see that there was a hidden agenda at play, a hidden agenda that was backing their camp, which had absolutely nothing to do with helping a small minority legally die easier deaths. Aside from all of that, as with the issue of abortion in the U.S. right now, there is definitely a bit of a 'Divide And Conquer-esque' psyop going on here. And, it is also having the consequence of taking away some of the serious heat that Kaiser Keir must have been feeling. I am thinking that this will all be dragged out for as long as is humanly possible, before ultimately being passed in to law. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckgzkp79npgo 'MPs back proposals to legalise assisted dying.' In the first Commons vote on the issue in nearly a decade, MPs supported a bill which would allow terminally ill adults expected to die within six months to seek help to end their own life by 330 to 275, a majority of 55. (I had to laugh at that.) Dame Esther Rantzen, one of the most high-profile campaigners for assisted dying, said she was "absolutely thrilled". (Ditto.) Edited November 30, 2024 by numnuts 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 Definitely not a good thing. Any cause or issue which has Rancid as its high profile mouthpiece is not to be trusted. But yeah, this was a done deal despite the BS in the media, pretending the idea and decision was up for debate and not popular. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 Quote If the bill considered today were to become law, it would legalise assisted dying for people who have mental capacity to make such a decision, have been given a terminal diagnosis and are expected to die within 6 months. Good luck getting 2 doctors and a Judge to attend within 6 months! Rancid and Zippy are the last persons on earth I would take advice from. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainlove Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 (edited) I was really upset over this bill. You all know where this is going. They will be getting as many as they can to sign up for assisted dying, including people who are at risk. Just look at canada. And when big pharma/gates gets holds of a few centres then god help everyone. I read alot of comments sections and couldnt believe the amount of people who wanted this. Its like convid again. Agenda 2030 on track by the looks of things. I have emailed the local MP but he voted yes so i dont expect anything there. Edited November 30, 2024 by Captainlove 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoScota Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 For me personally, in my health situation I would like the option of it being there. Saying that, this should be between a doctor and their patient not gubment. And certainly not a gubment who wants to see every living thing on this planet dedded. The potential for abuse not from families so much but from the 'stablishment in the future. When MAID stepped in as a solution rather than actually helping the vulnerable and their needs, then this in itself was a major failing, and a clear case of democide. But come a time when I am faced with no choice but to be homeless with my shit I have going on, it may just be my adios time because what's the alternative? Being a harma syringe pin cushion in a fema pod dining on roaches? I can see both sides of the argument, and those who can't see how this would be a welcome choice for those who need it, please try and consider just how shit dying really can be. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 1 hour ago, NeoScota said: For me personally, in my health situation I would like the option of it being there. Saying that, this should be between a doctor and their patient not gubment. And certainly not a gubment who wants to see every living thing on this planet dedded. The potential for abuse not from families so much but from the 'stablishment in the future. When MAID stepped in as a solution rather than actually helping the vulnerable and their needs, then this in itself was a major failing, and a clear case of democide. But come a time when I am faced with no choice but to be homeless with my shit I have going on, it may just be my adios time because what's the alternative? Being a harma syringe pin cushion in a fema pod dining on roaches? I can see both sides of the argument, and those who can't see how this would be a welcome choice for those who need it, please try and consider just how shit dying really can be. Yes, from what I've experienced of death in my lifetime it can be shit, really shit. But what this 'final solution' does is it coerces people who would never consider suicide as a way out, to have to experience the true horror of doing exactly that. Believe me, it's fine for the likes of Rancid and her ilk, who must be suicidal by nature, but it's not fine at all for 'normal' people, not prone to suicidal thoughts. However, each to their own. I'd rather my family remembered me dying in agony than living with the thought that they had 'pushed the button,' so to speak. That never leaves you. Even having a favourite pet put down haunts you for the rest of your life, whereas you can come to terms with it more if they pass away naturally. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 Harold Shipman would have danced a jig. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainlove Posted November 30, 2024 Share Posted November 30, 2024 I think the point here is if we lived in a society/goverment that really cared then this bill may not be a problem. But because this realm is very evil and corrupt its a going to be abused by the ptb and any other crazy medics to fit what ever agenda they have. For me im against the bill its anti god. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoScota Posted December 1, 2024 Share Posted December 1, 2024 On 11/30/2024 at 7:01 PM, webtrekker said: Yes, from what I've experienced of death in my lifetime it can be shit, really shit. But what this 'final solution' does is it coerces people who would never consider suicide as a way out, to have to experience the true horror of doing exactly that. Believe me, it's fine for the likes of Rancid and her ilk, who must be suicidal by nature, but it's not fine at all for 'normal' people, not prone to suicidal thoughts. However, each to their own. I'd rather my family remembered me dying in agony than living with the thought that they had 'pushed the button,' so to speak. That never leaves you. Even having a favourite pet put down haunts you for the rest of your life, whereas you can come to terms with it more if they pass away naturally. It's fine for the likes of those of us who face death with the knowing this is our choice. Some of us are suicidal by nature because this isn't shits and giggles. My choice today was painkillers or aspirin. I chose the pain killers as well as the aspirin because well....two of my many comorbidities come at me (stroke symptoms being one of them). If this is right for me one day, no relative will push my button, that would be me, or me take a swig of "one for the road". But if you would rather your loved ones remember you in agony, that should be your choice too. Choice being the key word. My choice, your choice, someone else's choice. I resent my choice being taken away even if I understand the concerns and agree with those concerns. But like I said, this should be between dr and patient.....and the other shit I said. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 On 11/30/2024 at 2:01 PM, webtrekker said: Even having a favourite pet put down haunts you for the rest of your life, whereas you can come to terms with it more if they pass away naturally. Tough one. 10 years ago, my cat was very sick with lymphoma and was dying. Every time I tried to take her to the vet, she would rally. In the end, she passed away quietly in my wife's arms. Now to my point. It has haunted me since then that I caused her to suffer needlessly by allowing her to carry on and not stepping in. Maybe that's my own guilt and the cat was happy to pass away the way she did, I don't know. But as for allowing a relative to send me off with the push of a button, some of mine would relish the chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobster Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 1 minute ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said: Tough one. 10 years ago, my cat was very sick with lymphoma and was dying. Every time I tried to take her to the vet, she would rally. In the end, she passed away quietly in my wife's arms. Now to my point. It has haunted me since then that I caused her to suffer needlessly by allowing her to carry on and not stepping in. Maybe that's my own guilt and the cat was happy to pass away the way she did, I don't know. But as for allowing a relative to send me off with the push of a button, some of mine would relish the chance. That's most people with most loved pets, there is no right time,only to early or to late 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyUK Posted December 11, 2024 Share Posted December 11, 2024 (edited) Added some info interconnected here about this in with the UK Farm situation - Ministry of Food/Plenty - Happening at the same time just by coincidence of course… Agenda drive goals Population Control - The Demise Pill - Dr Richard Day information. I have quoted some of it here, some interrelated context to do with UK Farm Control of the Food Supply maybe in the post below. Quote The Demise Pill - From “Day” to Darkness… Corona/Eclipse Some more confirmation that COVID was a ritual event to do with this eclipse, even with all the imagery surrounding coronavirus if that wasn’t enough for you?? If anyone believes this is a coincidence they need their heads examining preferably not by Elon Musk or any of his cronies. Corona Virus - Crown Chakra Virus April the 8th the eclipse in the USA Queen of Heaven - Virgin Mary IXXI/911 - Twisted/Fallen becomes the Whore of Babylon - Fall of the Heart/Higher Self - Technocracy/Transhumanism AVE MARIA - Virgin Mary, Madonna & The Queen connections | 911 Through this TPTB obviously want to control the food supply and could even seek to use many of the farms in the UK for other purposes like building their tower blocks SMART City experiments etc some of them forming this “rewilding” project. Without farmers, the issue of rewilding becomes less of a problem. The other way around, the thing stopping rewilding the UK atm is Farming Communities. Only Fools and Horses | Rodney dreams of Damien taking over the world! Scarcity - Sustainable Development Man destroys what he can't understand... Hence, technocrats trying to control nature will destroy nature! Club of Rome - Population Control Rhetoric - XXX TAX, Food or Control? Assisted Suicide - "The Demise Pill" The NWO Agenda - as revealed by Dr Richard Day in 1969 Shared Info - I have tried to make sure its accurate and highlighted important areas - It is all important of course but this being what is most relevant here… New World Order Insider Reveals Entire NWO Plan in 1969! This is amazing information from Dr. Lawrence Dunegan who was invited to attend a lecture by Dr. Richard Day in 1969. Dr. Day told this room of about 80-90 doctors all about the changes they would witness in their lifetime as a result of “The Order” or as we know it now as the New World Order or Illuminati. Dr Day told the doctors that he was free to speak at this time because everything was in place and nobody could stop them now! Recording devices were not allowed in the room and taking notes was not allowed. Luckily, Dr. Dunegan had a near photographic memory and took good notes when he got home from the lecture. The notes stayed in his desk for 20 years until he pulled them out and decided to make audio tapes of the information in 1989. Dr Day stated that he would be in real trouble if the information he was telling them got out to the general public. Was it a coincidence that Dr. Day died the same year that Dr. Dunegan began distributing this information on audio tapes in 1989? After the lecture was completed, Dr. Day gave a hypnotic suggestion to the entire room that they would probably forget everything they heard today but would be ready for the coming changes. When Dr. Dunegan asked some of his friends that were in the room what they thought of the lecture a few weeks later, none of them could tell them what it was about! Here are just some of the topics covered in this video created from Dr. Dunegan’s audio tapes about the plans of the new world order. Girls would be discouraged from playing with dolls so they wouldn’t think about babies. They would be encouraged to get out on the soccer field instead. Guns would be eliminated almost entirely and the few that were allowed to have them for hunting would have to check them out from officials. They already could cure over 98% of all cancers – they had the cures at the Rockefeller Institute. But they would not be released because there were too many people in the world and they had to die of something. Homosexuality will be encouraged – anything goes. Families will diminish in importance. People would be encouraged to live alone. Euthanasia will be encouraged – they will use “the demise pill” to kill themselves. Births will be strictly controlled and you could not simply have children because you wanted them. “stupid” people would not eat correctly and exercise so they would die much earlier and that’s what they wanted. Private doctors will be eliminated – doctors make too much money. They will make health care so expensive that you must have insurance or be financially destroyed. Limiting access to affordable medical care will make eliminating elderly easier. They would stop hospitals from giving any charity care. New difficult to treat and diagnose diseases will come about as a means of population control. Running shoes and sports equipment will be made glamorous to make the “smart” people get into exercise. Romantic music will not be put out anymore. All the old music will be brought back on certain “oldies” radio stations and the young people will have their own radio stations. Old movies will be put again for the old people. Entertainment will be used to mainly change and program the young people. The old people aren’t important anyway so they don’t care much about them. Entire meals will be made and put in grocery stores. Convenience foods will be made unhealthy. They wanted people that were too lazy to fix their own meals or exercise to die early. They would make puberty come on earlier. Inducing heart attacks as a means of assassination. They will blend all religions but Christianity had to go especially! Once the Roman Catholic is brought down then the rest will go next. Then they will create a new religion. They will change the Bible over time – churches would help them! The education system will be restructured as a tool of indoctrination. Kids will spend more time in school but won’t learn anything. Kids will have to specialize early on in their education and changing their plans will be very difficult. ID will be required for all travel. They will implant IDs inside the skin so that nobody could say they lost their IDs. They will control who has access to information. Some books will just disappear or be changed. They will even have thieves steal certain books from the library. Drug use will be encouraged to encourage a “Jungle” atmosphere. Meanwhile police enforcement to put people in prison for drugs will be drastically increased. Food will be strictly controlled and people would be not allowed to grow their own. They only would give you enough food to give you what you needed but hoarding food or growing food would be criminal activities. They didn’t want anybody to be able to support those outside their system. - MONOPOLY Travel will be first made cheaper to encourage people to spread out their families but then made very expensive so few people could afford it. Crime will be increased as a way to control society. - SMART CITIES/FINES/TECHNOCRACY More jails would be made and they would even use hospitals as jails. America would lose her manufacturing base. Other countries would be making the products America was making now. Sports would be used as a tool for social change – Soccer was being encouraged since it was a global game. They wanted to do away with anything like football and baseball that were created in the United States. National pride of any type would be discouraged.- Also it should be said that useful idiots will try to use it as a weapon to create divide and rule to actually pit all forms of nationalism towards its own demise… Globalisation will come to the rescue. Sex and violence would be programmed through entertainment. All television sets would have secret cameras that would watch everybody in the room. They would implant IDs in everybody. They would control what was in our food. They already controlled the weather. They would stop rain in certain areas to bring them under their control. They would make rain during harvest to make it harder to get the food from the fields. There were always two reasons for all their actions. The public reason they give everybody and the REAL reason. - DOUBLETHINK People don’t ask the right questions – they are too trusting. Scientific research would be falsified to push their agendas. Terrorism would be used to control the people. Home ownership will be a thing of the past. The new system would be either be brought by peaceful means if possible or by bringing the nation to the brink of nuclear war. People would give up their national sovereignty to keep the peace. If too many people resisted their plans, there might be a need to use one, two or more nuclear weapons to show that “we mean business”. Sold Down the River… Brad Pitt Suicided - I have a Rendezvous with Death ? - Revolutionary or Reactionary Suicide? (30 languages) David Icke Dot Connector EP 4 How far does it have to go before more people get it and see it for what it is? Animal Farm - George Orwell, 1945 [4K] My Chemical Romance - Welcome to the Black Parade REMASTERED (Official Music Video) Regression? “Rewilding” - Returning mankind back into “Animals”? - Unleashing the BEAST?  ”CHANGE the World” - Transhumanism and Technocracy - Hell on Earth - The BEAST System - Governed through Artificial Intelligence Hiding behind it being the true rulers, as per usual. Now they just hide behind puppet people. Edited December 11, 2024 by DannyUK 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talorgan Posted December 12, 2024 Share Posted December 12, 2024 (edited) 23 hours ago, DannyUK said: Added some info interconnected here about this in with the UK Farm situation - Ministry of Food/Plenty - Happening at the same time just by coincidence of course… Agenda drive goals Population Control - The Demise Pill - Dr Richard Day information. I have quoted some of it here, some interrelated context to do with UK Farm Control of the Food Supply maybe in the post below. Yes looks like those agendas are in full swing and this bill is a slippery slope , Edited December 12, 2024 by Talorgan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack121 Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 Sure i heard bill gates say he needs assitance with something. Or did i read the title to this thread wrong Oh well, never mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyUK Posted December 14, 2024 Share Posted December 14, 2024 (edited) 9 hours ago, jack121 said: Sure i heard bill gates say he needs assitance with something. Or did i read the title to this thread wrong Oh well, never mind Yes mate he sure does, unfortunately however, the wrong people will be targeted. He as much as spells it out… “Pension Generosity” Bill Gates: End-of-Life Care vs. Saving Teachers' Jobs “Unnecessarily Generous Pensions” Scene from On Deadly Ground Understanding Our Matrix Free Your Mind PART1 https://sendvid.com/htjgf0zr Understanding Our Matrix Free Your Mind PART2 https://sendvid.com/98sbnq84 Other such SHIT! Quote Bill Gates tells Klaus Schwab at the 2008 World Economic Forum how vaccines reduce population growth Bill Gates on Population Size and Control Doesn’t he always talk SHIT!?! Bill Gates talks toilets Not allowing livestock to SHIT naturally. But instead seeking to use a chemical to reduce “climate change” that is unbelievably hazardous which could “inadvertently” trigger bacterial infections due to such toxins in the animals not exiting the animal ASAP - Naturally… In otherwords, allowing toxins to build up and accumulate from their own bacteria covering up what is actually taking place here, in the animals such as cows, that could then go into milk and food products. This could in theory actually happen or be another COVID style SCAM more than likely which is why this stunt has been pulled so publicly rather than, under the table like most everything else. They want this track record so we can put 2 and 2 together and potentially get 5. The other aspect being that they need and want to tell us so we can actively participate within our own enslavement whilst these evil bastards being allowed to do this and dodge their “karmic debt” etc But we won’t really know right away and this also factors in with the COVID shot, as people could perhaps wonder is such caused by the SHITE in food or the shots everyone has had, etc etc Confusion being the order of the day. On top of this, just come out and admit yes we would like as many of you dead as possible particularly the elderly - which we were trying to save during COVID - So please help us and do it yourself with your end of life demise pill… “For a better tomorrow and a brighter future’ as Bill Gates also openly tries to turn the Sun off “People of the Corn” Korn – Right Now Corn - Creation Story Quote the mayan creation myth Corn of Death Story Again, foreshadowed here like the “FARMER” scenario/scene The Corn Will Die Soon - Interstellar (2014) - Movie Clip 4K HD Scene “Small World” - Matthew McConaughey Bill Gates' spoof retirement video Bill Gates Works Out WIth McConaughey, Raps With Jay-Z, Auditions For Spielberg In CES Video https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/bill-gates-works-out-with_n_80310 Maxim Magazine Matthew McConaughey Bill Gates' November 2014 120414R2 WISE GUYS MATTHEW McCONAUGHEY'S GUIDE TO THE GOODLIFE 86 MATTHEW MCCONAUGHEY - The Oscar-winning star ofthis month's Interstellar on starting over, the Lone Star State, and why he loves the Redskins, BILL GATES MUST READ BUSINESS BIBLE Monsanto: The Company that Owns the World’s Food Supply Edited December 14, 2024 by DannyUK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsnotallrightjack Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 Do any of you welcome the kind of death where you lie in your own waste, dribbling and confused, unable to control your bowels, or even swallow some water? That's the reality for many terminal illnesses. I'd much rather go with an injection or pill to send me to sleep than that. Our beloved pets are given dignified peaceful deaths why are humans expected to die in indignities and agony? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainlove Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 1 hour ago, itsnotallrightjack said: Do any of you welcome the kind of death where you lie in your own waste, dribbling and confused, unable to control your bowels, or even swallow some water? That's the reality for many terminal illnesses. I'd much rather go with an injection or pill to send me to sleep than that. Our beloved pets are given dignified peaceful deaths why are humans expected to die in indignities and agony? If this world/realm wasnt so corrupt i would agree with you. But as i have said before this realm is evil and they will do evil things with the assited dying bill, like in canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 And also, if the nose of death is tortuously painful after all, but you simply can't communicate that because you're unable to move or vocalise, what are you going to do about it? Complain via a ouija board? Or if you have an epiphany when on the verge of death, and suddenly know (hypothetically speaking) that it's wrong to top yourself, there's no way back. But the strongest argument against it for me is the evil & corruption all we're surrounded by. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazthehobo Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 Was thinking about this the other day… What if they get to the stage where you have to ‘opt out’ of the assisted dying bill. A bit like being an organ donor. Unless you opt out they can take your organs type thing. Eventually they will modify It so that if youre in need of medical care to survive (roadside emergency after a major accident etc) unless you have opted out then the paramedics will just leave you to die (before whipping out your useful organs). But the only way to opt out is through the digital ID app. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talorgan Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 9 minutes ago, Mazthehobo said: Was thinking about this the other day… What if they get to the stage where you have to ‘opt out’ of the assisted dying bill. A bit like being an organ donor. Unless you opt out they can take your organs type thing. Eventually they will modify It so that if youre in need of medical care to survive (roadside emergency after a major accident etc) unless you have opted out then the paramedics will just leave you to die (before whipping out your useful organs). But the only way to opt out is through the digital ID app. Yes if they could get away with it then go from stage 1 to 10 as quickly as Bernase style propaganda will allow till we are at Logan's Run situations perhaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoScota Posted December 18, 2024 Share Posted December 18, 2024 8 hours ago, itsnotallrightjack said: Do any of you welcome the kind of death where you lie in your own waste, dribbling and confused, unable to control your bowels, or even swallow some water? That's the reality for many terminal illnesses. I'd much rather go with an injection or pill to send me to sleep than that. Our beloved pets are given dignified peaceful deaths why are humans expected to die in indignities and agony? Am just in investigations right now, some fuckery going on that may have something to do with my brain stem, and "locked in syndrome" would be a existing hell because you might get lucky and be able to communicate with your eyelids. I would be toast if that happened because I live alone and would die without being found for a good while. A lot of those jabbed are in a terrible state also, and so can understand them wanting to die in their own way. Gubment shouldn't be involved though, other than to allow dr and patient to do this at the request of the patient themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cemeterycrow Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 Evil to the last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k_j_evans Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 5 hours ago, cemeterycrow said: Well, we can hope that it wasn't properly tested and will do bugger all - or make her more ill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted December 28, 2024 Share Posted December 28, 2024 Typical Rancid....shilling to the end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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