evanslr Posted November 26, 2024 Share Posted November 26, 2024 (edited) Disney has a habit of encoding esoteric symbolism in their movies, and the goat character from their movie Beauty and the Beast might be seen as a representation of Christ. Adam Erickson notes in his article 'How Beauty and the Beast is Making Better Christians': "Showing us a painting of Jesus hanging on the cross so early in the movie was probably Disney’s way of telling its audience what the movie is really about". Like Christ, the Beast undergoes a profound transformation, not only physical form but also of heart and spirit, demonstrating the power of redemption and love. The Beast’s arc involves the shedding of his metaphorical role as a scapegoat. Through Belle’s love and understanding, he’s redeemed and transformed back into a prince. This redemption serves as a counterpoint to the traditional scapegoat narrative, where the scapegoat remains the object of society’s guilt or blame. Furthermore, the original name of the Beast in the movie is called "Adam" (a name also associated with Christ from Biblical sources). The movie cover for Beauty and the Beast conceals a hidden 33. What’s with the number 33? No number holds more esoteric importance than “33”. Some interesting facts about the number 33 are: There are 33 degrees in Freemasonry -- the Masonic Great Seal with the Latin “New World Order” was added to the U.S. Dollar Bill on 1933, many events surrounding Christ’s life are associated with 33, and author Wayne Herschel shows that Orion’s Belt aligns with Aldebaran and the Pleiades at approximately 33 degrees of arc which are very important stars and constellations for the occult. Esoterically -- 33 is the “overarching number to describe all ways — means and paths that lead to conscious union with the Divinity — in whatever way or form that may be conceived, whether as God, or a pantheon of gods, or Heaven, or as an impersonal ultimate reality -- or as an indescribable Absolute”. In Christian tradition, 33 is generally assumed to be the "number of Christ". The name of the character from Beauty and the Beast, "Beast", conjures up associations with the "Beast" from Revelation. The phrase “και ο αριθμος αυτου χξϚ” is Greek. It translates to “and its number is 666”, and is a reference to the Book of Revelation (13:1-17). The Greek letters χξϚ represent the number 666 in Greek numerals, associated with the concept of “number of the Beast”. The 666 phrase from Revelation above has an isopsephia value of 2368, as also, coincidentally — does the name Jesus Christ (Ιησους Χριστος). THE NUMBER 33 HIDDEN IN THE MOVIE POSTER Edited November 26, 2024 by evanslr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobster Posted November 26, 2024 Share Posted November 26, 2024 The whole loverly girl married animal which turns into handsome prince/ god goes back to ancient Greek myths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Grapes Posted November 26, 2024 Share Posted November 26, 2024 The original story was French, so the beast was called 'bete'. Apparently Adam was never the beast's name, according to Disney. https://blog.lootcrate.com/beast-real-name/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evanslr Posted November 26, 2024 Author Share Posted November 26, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Grumpy Grapes said: The original story was French, so the beast was called 'bete'. Apparently Adam was never the beast's name, according to Disney. https://blog.lootcrate.com/beast-real-name/ Righto. Thanks. I got the Adam/Beast name from here: https://dis.fandom.com/wiki/Beast/Adam it is stated in products licensed by Disney (such as the 1998 video gameThe D Show which was developed by Cyberflix) that Adam is the Prince's name. However, it is actually not his name, as it has been stated in the directors' commentary included in the Beauty and the Beast DVDs and Blu-ray as well as the Disney.com FAQ and D23.com that the character has never had an actual name; he is only referred to as "The Beast" or "the Prince". It was mentioned the writers and producers were so busy that they forgot to give him a name. In an interview with Glen Keane, Keane admitted that the Beast never had an alternative name prior to the film's events.[2] Regardless, the name Adam has still ended up being used in some licensed Disney Prince/Disney Princess merchandise items.[3][4] Edited November 26, 2024 by evanslr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason57 Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 I thought it was Disney pushing beastiality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honzam Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 9 minutes ago, Jason57 said: I thought it was Disney pushing beastiality I would call it beastiality if Belle gets fur and horns then the story will be "tale as old as time". Avatar pushes clearly against humanity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerop Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 Great topic OP I never really thought about the disney stories. Immediately the analogy of ‘divine union’ you present, screamed at me that whole concept of ‘shadow work’ The beast here is our shadow. The beauty in us is easily loved by the world, but the beast in us isn’t. The alchemical marriage is this process of merging the 2 parts of self, for that divine union you speak of which brings the experience of ‘christ consciousness’. The shadow/beast is also akin to ‘the dweller on the threshold’ that we meet as we expand our consciousness. This dweller IS a part of us, (part rejected and projected out there into the world), but the experience of meeting it, just like meeting anyone in this world, we see it as a separate being. Therefore meeting the dweller is rather uncomfortable….to say the least.. but courage, neutrality of mind is required, as we are a gnat’s knacker away from consciousness ego-liberation and if we reject the dweller, things only get worse. Meeting the beast within is a bit like having a conversation with what we can imagine to be the most intense being you’ve ever met. Your senses immediately reject this being. Accepting this being is the golden key to liberation. It’s such a crucial moment in our spiritual and conscious development, it’s so easy to f*ck it up. Most do, because it’s that bizarre to go through. It really puts perspective on the term ‘love thy enemy’……unite with your shadow parts to dissolve and transmute them. Beauty accepted the beast and there is a divine union. 33rd freemason level represents this liberation. Good catch with the 33 on the movie cover. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honzam Posted November 27, 2024 Share Posted November 27, 2024 4 hours ago, zerop said: It really puts perspective on the term ‘love thy enemy’……unite with your shadow parts to dissolve and transmute them. That is dangerous approach! I can’t recommend this. It’s much better to passively observe shadows. Just be aware of them. They lose energy and dissolve. To accept your dark side as a part of yourself gives shadows strength. Lets assume that very source of the suffering of all living beings is present in each one of us directly in our egos, because of our snake parents. Buddha called that demon Mara. Imagine you can meet that entity similar way like Buddha did in meditation or like Jesus in the desert. Do you think Jesus loved Devil, accepted him and united with him? It is possible to love Devil with pure unconditional love, give him your soul for free, let him torture your heart as he wishes until you die forever. Literally replace God in the first commandment of Jesus with Devil. This is an extreme example of what perverted spirituality may look like. If someone would be able to accomplish such “spiritual path” he will for sure turn himself into source of the suffering of all living beings. Every ego will have its origin in him and he will be their Father. He will love them all as his children. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honzam Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 While they are growing as a snake twins fetus inside of the wings of their new winged mother, natural reaction of demonic beings from lower planes of existence to her love is hate. They hate the situation when they are turning into something new. They hate love and their mother and want her to die. Situation settles down after several month when their former demonic nature finally surrenders. Love prevails but they still manage to bring mother little bit closer to her eternal death. She knows it and feels it but her goal remains the same, to continue with another baby because from her perspective it’s worth. I think that such behavior or seeking such state of existence is unthinkable for human beings and hominids in general. They are used to prefer safety. Most of the time they collect food and sometimes hunt smaller or much weaker prey in groups. Felines often hunt much larger prey and risk fatal wounds just to feed themselves. It’s part of their everyday life. They seem not to be afraid of accidental death in fight yet they know how to love and value life. Some of them can even adopt young ones of different specie. My question is: What makes cats so special? Why do people beside dogs choose cats as pets? My friend told me she has them to spiritually protect her family. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted November 28, 2024 Share Posted November 28, 2024 20 minutes ago, honzam said: My question is: What makes cats so special? Why do people beside dogs choose cats as pets? My friend told me she has them to spiritually protect her family. I don't know but they were considered sacred in ancient Egypt, and mummified too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honzam Posted November 29, 2024 Share Posted November 29, 2024 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=revelation 13&version=ESV 4 And they worshiped the dragon, for he had given his authority to the beast, and they worshiped the beast, saying, “Who is like the beast, and who can fight against it?” Why? Core of Beauty and the Beast story is Belle’s self-sacrifice. She leaves world of humans and gives her love to animal monster. She sacrifices her freedom and human life. But the Beast in Revelation represents more than that. There is not any plot twist in her story, she chooses slavery to low animal instincts and she goes to destruction. No return to humanity, no resurrection, just sending little devils (you can imagine them similar to sharks) to our plane of existence to complicate living of other more peaceful beings. The beginning of pregnancy is probably the most alien experience I know. From the sun Father love flows down through horns to winged body and into womb. Out of the fetus, which is captured in wings, rises hatred pointed towards mother. Flow of love is automated, controlled by simple animal instinct, you don’t have to focus on it. You are just enjoying the situation. I can describe it as a form of addiction. You want to experience it over and over again. To be slowly killed by your own children becomes your personal nirvana. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zerop Posted December 1, 2024 Share Posted December 1, 2024 On 11/27/2024 at 7:27 PM, honzam said: That is dangerous approach! I can’t recommend this. It’s much better to passively observe shadows. Just be aware of them. They lose energy and dissolve. To accept your dark side as a part of yourself gives shadows strength. Lets assume that very source of the suffering of all living beings is present in each one of us directly in our egos, because of our snake parents. Buddha called that demon Mara. Imagine you can meet that entity similar way like Buddha did in meditation or like Jesus in the desert. Do you think Jesus loved Devil, accepted him and united with him? It is possible to love Devil with pure unconditional love, give him your soul for free, let him torture your heart as he wishes until you die forever. Literally replace God in the first commandment of Jesus with Devil. This is an extreme example of what perverted spirituality may look like. If someone would be able to accomplish such “spiritual path” he will for sure turn himself into source of the suffering of all living beings. Every ego will have its origin in him and he will be their Father. He will love them all as his children. Semantics can cause misunderstanding of meaning. We’re expressing similar ideas differently. You mention the analogy of Jesus - his acceptance of the devil in the desert allowed him to see the devil clearly. He talked to him, stated his position. Didnt fight, didnt avoid, and didnt resist. With resistance is persistance - in the history of beings resisting what we dont like doesnt make it vanish. Acceptance does. Hence wars rage for aeons and still we’re stuck in warring some more. Acceptance of ‘evil’ makes the dualistic ego in us balk and churn - we wish to overcome evil!….thats a understandable position. The secret of overcoming ‘evil’ is like the chinese finger trap - face it, and awareness of it allows dissolution of it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
honzam Posted December 1, 2024 Share Posted December 1, 2024 (edited) For me to dissolve something is different from to unite with something. Examples: Dissolution https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew 4&version=ESV 8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. 9 And he said to him, “All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me.” 10 Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written, “‘You shall worship the Lord your God and him only shall you serve.’” 11 Then the devil left him, and behold, angels came and were ministering to him. Unity "Please stay, Satan! For I want to give you my heart and all my love. I feel you need it much more than God.” -------- For me androgyne represents the biggest possible duality when ego becomes God and everything else perceives as its property and neither man not male nor female is proper dissolution of ego when God becomes everything. I am here to testify that all that horned androgynous symbolism is truly diabolic and people should avoid it unless they really want to help Satan in his effort to produce more egos. If some soul is born as a human being then it should seek something more than how to be animal again even if such animals rule over the Earth. Edited December 1, 2024 by honzam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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