SoundOfSilence Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 I do question whether there are any rare earth minerals ("REM") in Ukraine. Or, if there are, they are unlikely to be significant. Offering the US the REMs was an idea of Elensky's which he put on the table in exchange for further US support, to get Trump to put troops in Ukraine and to incite him to take back the lost territories. The thinking being that if America has mineral rights, then it will fight to reclaim them. I suspect that Trump outmaneuvered him by striking a deal with Putin where Putin will allow Trump access to the REM. Of course, this does not fit in with Elensky's plans since, if Trump has a concession, there is no need for him to put boots on the ground. That, I suspect, is why Elensky keeps reneging on the deal and refusing to sign up to transfer of the REM. He will only agree if Trump will commit to recapturing the lost territories. I also suspect that the idea of offering REM came about because the globalists misread the room. They mistakenly took Trump's Greenland ambitions as a mineral grab. In reality, Greenland and Panama is necessary to secure shipping routes in a looming/potential trade war with China. If China controls the Arctic and Panama shipping routes it has effectively encircled the US. Hence plan 2. Try and get Trump to agree to a peace keeping force knowing that Putin has gone on record stating that any such force, without UN approval (which Russia can veto), will be treated as enemy combatants. The evidence is: Macron (and his husband?) visits Trump. Mein Starmer visits Trump. Elensky visits Trump. Elensky's meeting with trump goes South so he rushes back to meet with his globalist buddies. Then Mein Starmer announces a European peacekeeping force in Ukraine - only if the US gives it security guarantees of course. The UK and the EU are desperately trying to start WW III since this is the only way in which they can hang on to their globalist ambitions. Very transparent. This modern generation of globalists aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talorgan Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 Looks like US is going back to Protectionism with tariffs too , swinging back from free trade ? So in short term more inflated prices , since all manufacturing industry went east in many last decades under Maurice Strong etc ,built up in East with western public money, expertise too? If Ukraine/ Greenland has critical minerals for big boys to plundering, lithium , titanium, graphite,rare earth minerals then need security and for private companies to invest for " green!" energy supply trains ,with &/ or without China ? But big time and money for supply trains and still raping Earth though really for so called green energy all round isn't it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon Slayer Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 20 hours ago, SoundOfSilence said: I do question whether there are any rare earth minerals ("REM") in Ukraine. Or, if there are, they are unlikely to be significant. Offering the US the REMs was an idea of Elensky's which he put on the table in exchange for further US support, to get Trump to put troops in Ukraine and to incite him to take back the lost territories. The thinking being that if America has mineral rights, then it will fight to reclaim them. I suspect that Trump outmaneuvered him by striking a deal with Putin where Putin will allow Trump access to the REM. Of course, this does not fit in with Elensky's plans since, if Trump has a concession, there is no need for him to put boots on the ground. That, I suspect, is why Elensky keeps reneging on the deal and refusing to sign up to transfer of the REM. He will only agree if Trump will commit to recapturing the lost territories. I also suspect that the idea of offering REM came about because the globalists misread the room. They mistakenly took Trump's Greenland ambitions as a mineral grab. In reality, Greenland and Panama is necessary to secure shipping routes in a looming/potential trade war with China. If China controls the Arctic and Panama shipping routes it has effectively encircled the US. Hence plan 2. Try and get Trump to agree to a peace keeping force knowing that Putin has gone on record stating that any such force, without UN approval (which Russia can veto), will be treated as enemy combatants. The evidence is: Macron (and his husband?) visits Trump. Mein Starmer visits Trump. Elensky visits Trump. Elensky's meeting with trump goes South so he rushes back to meet with his globalist buddies. Then Mein Starmer announces a European peacekeeping force in Ukraine - only if the US gives it security guarantees of course. The UK and the EU are desperately trying to start WW III since this is the only way in which they can hang on to their globalist ambitions. Very transparent. This modern generation of globalists aren't the sharpest tools in the shed. Agree. Trump and his cabinet are in a different league. I've never met a sharp, street wise inbred, which is the majority of the EU chosen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talorgan Posted March 4 Share Posted March 4 (edited) Good article I think on the new/ old Superclass , pushing their Shape of things to come whilst populations grow tired To establish Technates and more oligagthic control down the doge line , https://unlimitedhangout.com/2025/03/investigative-series/the-dark-maga-gov-corp-technate-part-1/ Political ideology for a Superclass of eugenicists technocrats going to mars in a handcart But it's the same old story again aligning government policy with their political ideology with the herd munching in a new pasture wanting to stay- whilst being stampeded to the next digital pasture prison or post human even Edited March 4 by Talorgan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talorgan Posted March 5 Share Posted March 5 (edited) 10 hours ago, Talorgan said: Good article I think on the new/ old Superclass , pushing their Shape of things to come whilst populations grow tired To establish Technates and more oligagthic control down the doge line , https://unlimitedhangout.com/2025/03/investigative-series/the-dark-maga-gov-corp-technate-part-1/ Political ideology for a Superclass of eugenicists technocrats going to mars in a handcart But it's the same old story again aligning government policy with their political ideology with the herd munching in a new pasture wanting to stay- whilst being stampeded to the next digital pasture prison or post human even Technates IE; To be on Continental size The Technate of North America map includes Greenland, Canada, the United States, Mexico, parts of Central America, northern South America, Caribbean islands, and the eastern Pacific Ocean. So isn't that the plan a kind of New System of Functionalism governance doing away with state it seems Technocrats ruling over it of course-- Technocracy INC. Technoplastic beings in a psychopathic new system/ Singularity control grid run as a beehive by a Platonic Dark Enlightenment Edited March 5 by Talorgan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hegel Schmegel Posted March 8 Share Posted March 8 As both a Canadian and a cinephile, all this talk in the news of Trump wanting to make Canada a 51st state, and now this (potential) trade war, brings to mind the movie Canadian Bacon. Released in 1995, it's about an American president who takes to looking north of the border through an ever so suspicious lens, in viewing Canada as a country out to ruin the lives of Americans via cultural infiltration and other insidious methods. One paranoid American official in the movie even goes so far as to ponder the question, What if the U.S. was taken over by Canada? I'm no fan of director Michael Moore's politics or documentaries, but Canadian Bacon admittedly contains more than a few laughs, and makes for apt viewing at this critical and surreal time in international relations. Still, a premise that, however ludicrous, pales in comparison to the outrageous narrative being played out, centering around the present tariffs-obsessed, arguably mentally deranged POTUS. Sometimes real life is far more absurd than satire! One can only hope that Canadians who were once Trump-supporters are now finally coming to their senses, with this current 'feud' between Trump and Trudeau mere political theater, perhaps intended to entertain more than anything else. My guess is, these two loathsome characters, these two moronic heads of state, each performing their scripted roles, are probably the best of friends or at the very least on the same page, behind the curtain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 More evidence that Trump is hitting the globalists hard. Britain urged to form breakaway 'Four Eyes' alliance without the US after Trump's 'unprecedented' decision to block intelligence sharing with Ukraine | Daily Mail Online Clearly the intelligence services who run the Western world have realized that they've lost the US. Therefore, it would be undesirable to have their intelligence shared with the US. Particular the plans to start WW III with Russia. So, the five eyes will become the four eyes. Deliciously ironic given their myopia. Trump is dismantling the New World Order in a way that can never be resurrected. And far quicker than I believed possible. Apart from the author misusing the term 'mercantilism', this is a good read. A new American empire: Trump, Russia, and the end of globalism — RT World News Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideawake Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 4 hours ago, SoundOfSilence said: More evidence that Trump is hitting the globalists hard. Britain urged to form breakaway 'Four Eyes' alliance without the US after Trump's 'unprecedented' decision to block intelligence sharing with Ukraine | Daily Mail Online Clearly the intelligence services who run the Western world have realized that they've lost the US. Therefore, it would be undesirable to have their intelligence shared with the US. Particular the plans to start WW III with Russia. So, the five eyes will become the four eyes. Deliciously ironic given their myopia. Trump is dismantling the New World Order in a way that can never be resurrected. And far quicker than I believed possible. Apart from the author misusing the term 'mercantilism', this is a good read. A new American empire: Trump, Russia, and the end of globalism — RT World News Do not be fooled, Trump is a big deceiver and he’s playing his role in this Great Reset/NWO in a very covert way. How can I tell? He’s in bed with Netanyahu for the greater Israel agenda. It may look like great exposing amazing frauds in the USA appealing to Americans but when the time is right watchout, he’ll show his true colors. Wait and see, it won’t be long before Americans realize the ploy… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 11 minutes ago, wideawake said: Do not be fooled, Trump is a big deceiver and he’s playing his role in this Great Reset/NWO in a very covert way. Okay. So, he allowed himself to be shot in the ear, just to get elected in order to implement an agenda which, according to your interpretation, could have been put in place by Camel Face anyway? How does that make sense? You claim this is covert. But the opposite is true. Trump is completely exposing the globalists. Their agenda is out in the open. Why on earth would the globalists implement their agenda in such a way as to expose and make people despise them? Just look at Romania. Solely because people are waking up. Look at how much Mein Starmer has been exposed. These people thrive in darkness. There is no way that they would decide to implement the globalist agenda in such as to completely expose it. 11 minutes ago, wideawake said: How can I tell? He’s in bed with Netanyahu for the greater Israel agenda. Trump does not like Netanyahu. I very much doubt he is onboard with Netanyahu's agenda. 11 minutes ago, wideawake said: It may look like great exposing amazing frauds in the USA appealing to Americans but when the time is right watchout, he’ll show his true colors. Wait and see, it won’t be long before Americans realize the ploy… Out of interest. What is you timing on this? What do you mean by it won't be long? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piero Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 27 minutes ago, wideawake said: Do not be fooled, Trump is a big deceiver and he’s playing his role in this Great Reset/NWO in a very covert way. How can I tell? He’s in bed with Netanyahu for the greater Israel agenda. It may look like great exposing amazing frauds in the USA appealing to Americans but when the time is right watchout, he’ll show his true colors. Wait and see, it won’t be long before Americans realize the ploy… I agree, and it's Interesting how Trump also never exposes secret societies. He doesn't even mention them! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 2 minutes ago, Piero said: I agree, and it's Interesting how Trump also never exposes secret societies. He doesn't even mention them! What would be the point? They are just tools and puppets of the real establishment. Secret societies are just recruiting grounds. They don't hold the power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piero Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Just now, SoundOfSilence said: What would be the point? They are just tools and puppets of the real establishment. Secret societies are just recruiting grounds. They don't hold the power. That's not what JFK thought... "The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers, which are cited to justify it." - President John F. Kennedy - Address to newspaper publishers, April 27, 1961 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 2 minutes ago, Piero said: That's not what JFK thought... "The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers, which are cited to justify it." - President John F. Kennedy - Address to newspaper publishers, April 27, 1961 But he went after the CIA and the Federal Reserve. Not Skull and Bones. If he had of gone into Yale and got rid of Skull and Bones, then what? All their infrastructure is still in place, and it is still going to be exercised by puppet masters like Pepe Orsini. Calling out Freemasons, Sabbatians, Jesuits ... pick your flavor ... is going to see him ridiculed by the press and lose support. Anyway, JFK was talking about the groups that Trump is going after. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piero Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 Just now, SoundOfSilence said: But he went after the CIA and the Federal Reserve. Not Skull and Bones. If he had of gone into Yale and got rid of Skull and Bones, then what? All their infrastructure is still in place, and it is still going to be exercised by puppet masters like Pepe Orsini. Calling out Freemasons, Sabbatians, Jesuits ... pick your flavor ... is going to see him ridiculed by the press and lose support. Anyway, JFK was talking about the groups that Trump is going after. Another person who'd disagree would be President John Quincy Adams: "That so many men, at so many separate points, should have acted in perfect concert in such business as they were engaged in, would scarcely be believed, without compelling the inference of some distinct understanding existing between them. That they should have carried into effect the most difficult part of their undertaking, a scheme of the most daring and criminal nature, in the midst of a large, intelligent and active population, without thereby incurring the risk of a full conviction of their guilt and the consequent punishment, would be equally incredible, but for the light furnished by the phraseology of the Masonic oath. Upon the first hasty and superficial glance, a feeling might arise of surprise that the frivolity of its unmeaning ceremonial, and ridiculous substitution of its fictions for the sacred history, should not long ago discredited the thing in the minds of good and sensible men everywhere. Yet upon closer and more attentive examination, this first feeling vanishes, and makes way for astonishment at the ingenious contrivance displayed in the construction of the whole machine. A more perfect agent for the devising and execution of conspiracies against the church or state could scarcely have been conceived." - President John Quincy Adams, "Letters on the Masonic Institution", 1847 "I do conscientiously and sincerely believe that the Order of Freemasonry, if not the greatest, is one of the greatest moral and political evils under which the Union is now laboring." (John Quincy Adams) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 6 minutes ago, Piero said: Another person who'd disagree would be President John Quincy Adams: "That so many men, at so many separate points, should have acted in perfect concert in such business as they were engaged in, would scarcely be believed, without compelling the inference of some distinct understanding existing between them. That they should have carried into effect the most difficult part of their undertaking, a scheme of the most daring and criminal nature, in the midst of a large, intelligent and active population, without thereby incurring the risk of a full conviction of their guilt and the consequent punishment, would be equally incredible, but for the light furnished by the phraseology of the Masonic oath. Upon the first hasty and superficial glance, a feeling might arise of surprise that the frivolity of its unmeaning ceremonial, and ridiculous substitution of its fictions for the sacred history, should not long ago discredited the thing in the minds of good and sensible men everywhere. Yet upon closer and more attentive examination, this first feeling vanishes, and makes way for astonishment at the ingenious contrivance displayed in the construction of the whole machine. A more perfect agent for the devising and execution of conspiracies against the church or state could scarcely have been conceived." - President John Quincy Adams, "Letters on the Masonic Institution", 1847 "I do conscientiously and sincerely believe that the Order of Freemasonry, if not the greatest, is one of the greatest moral and political evils under which the Union is now laboring." (John Quincy Adams) Yet it was the freemason, Andrew Jackson, who defeated him in the election who ended the central bank. A lot of presidents were freemasons in those days. Masonry had not been fully infiltrated by the Jacobins back then. Out of interest, which secret society do you feel is at the top of the pyramid controlling everything? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piero Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 4 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: Yet it was the freemason, Andrew Jackson, who defeated him in the election who ended the central bank. A lot of presidents were freemasons in those days. Masonry had not been fully infiltrated by the Jacobins back then. Out of interest, which secret society do you feel is at the top of the pyramid controlling everything? It's nor any secret society that is at the top controlling everything but Satan the Devil. That is who is behind all political power. Ultimately, politics is controlled at many intersections, by supernatural forces. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideawake Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 33 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: Okay. So, he allowed himself to be shot in the ear, just to get elected in order to implement an agenda which, according to your interpretation, could have been put in place by Camel Face anyway? How does that make sense? You claim this is covert. But the opposite is true. Trump is completely exposing the globalists. Their agenda is out in the open. Why on earth would the globalists implement their agenda in such a way as to expose and make people despise them? Just look at Romania. Solely because people are waking up. Look at how much Mein Starmer has been exposed. These people thrive in darkness. There is no way that they would decide to implement the globalist agenda in such as to completely expose it. Trump does not like Netanyahu. I very much doubt he is onboard with Netanyahu's agenda. Out of interest. What is you timing on this? What do you mean by it won't be long? He allowed himself to be shot in the ear? I assume your proof of that is that bullet caught in the picture? Get someone to fire a rifle and try to get that bullet on camera. BS, plain and simple. Trump IS in bed with Natanyahu, wasn’t it Trump who gave the key of the White House to Netanyahu? Why would he ignore the ongoing genocide and support plans for real estate developments (his forte btw), it’s not for palestinians I’d say but for Jews. He’s also in line with the evil WEF**kers. Nah, he’s a traitor… I suspect within 2 years we’ll see it all in full display. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 3 minutes ago, Piero said: It's nor any secret society that is at the top controlling everything but Satan the Devil. That is who is behind all political power. Ultimately, politics is controlled at many intersections, by supernatural forces. Which goes back to my original reply. There is nothing to be gained by calling out secret societies. They are only recruiting grounds. Like Bohemian Grove. They are not in control. There is far more to be gained by dismantling the infrastructure relied on by the globalists. That way, they can never come back. That is why Andrew Jackson, Kennedy and to some extent Lincoln targeted the Central Bank. Take away the funding. I agree that the agenda is Satanic. Or at least analogous to Satanism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideawake Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 17 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: Yet it was the freemason, Andrew Jackson, who defeated him in the election who ended the central bank. A lot of presidents were freemasons in those days. Masonry had not been fully infiltrated by the Jacobins back then. Out of interest, which secret society do you feel is at the top of the pyramid controlling everything? JESUITS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 2 minutes ago, wideawake said: He allowed himself to be shot in the ear? 2 minutes ago, wideawake said: I assume your proof of that is that bullet caught in the picture? Get someone to fire a rifle and try to get that bullet on camera. BS, plain and simple. It's possible to have captured the bullet. But even if that is nonsense there were still a number of people directly behind Trump who were injured or killed by gun fire. They were part of it too? 2 minutes ago, wideawake said: Trump IS in bed with Natanyahu, They had a falling out after Trump was betrayed over the Solani assassination and the fact Netanyahu didn't back Trump up when 2020 was stolen. Trump retweeted Jeffrey Sachs' comments when he referred Netanyahu as a "deep, dark son-of-a-bitch". Trump has gone on record stating that it is Netanyahu that doesn't want peace. Trump has opened talks with Hamas. 2 minutes ago, wideawake said: I suspect within 2 years we’ll see it all in full display. So, by March 2027 the USA will have a digital currency linked to a social credit score and an internet ID. Okay ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 5 minutes ago, wideawake said: JESUITS This is why blaming this society or that never works. There is no agreement on the society that runs it. While you call out the Jesuits others call out the Jews while others accuse the Freemasons. In truth they have all been infiltrated by the agenda to some extent. They are all just institutional puppets. You think King Charles is answerable to Pope Francis for example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piero Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 10 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: I agree that the agenda is Satanic. Or at least analogous to Satanism. All political agendas are orchestrated by evil forces. They controls all sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 54 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: Anyway, JFK was talking about the groups that Trump is going after. JFK talked about global communism, and last time I checked, the MAGA communist stooge just made the red bloc stronger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: JFK talked about global communism, and last time I checked, the MAGA communist stooge just made the red bloc stronger. Perhaps you should check again. There hasn't been a Soviet Bloc since 1991. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideawake Posted March 10 Share Posted March 10 38 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: This is why blaming this society or that never works. There is no agreement on the society that runs it. While you call out the Jesuits others call out the Jews while others accuse the Freemasons. In truth they have all been infiltrated by the agenda to some extent. They are all just institutional puppets. You think King Charles is answerable to Pope Francis for example? They ALL answer to the same head of the snake (evil), even the Vatican has been infiltrated a long time ago so did pedo Charles. Now, you tell me who you think runs the world… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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