SoundOfSilence Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 1 hour ago, Piero said: David Icke's point is that both sides (Biden and Trump) are controlled by the same occult forces. I am more interested in facts than your understanding of David Icke's views. 1 hour ago, Piero said: The global Babylonian, beast system is already in place, and has been for decades, and Donald Trump is part of it. All he's doing is re-arranging the deck chairs on the sinking ship. To assist with this sinking system, he's also intent on creating chaos because without the disorder, it wouldn't be possible to create a NWO. I don't think you've quite grasped the Hegelian dialectic. The goal is to provoke a reaction so as to implement policies that the public would otherwise not be willing to embrace. Trump is exposing globalism. More people are aware of and against the establishment than ever before. That does not fit with Hegel. Hegel is about deceit and subterfuge. People are not going to embrace globalism now it has been so widely exposed. 1 hour ago, Piero said: To paraphrase David Icke... you have this global cult, this global network of secret societies that are directing the direction of the world. This global cult has created the system. Klaus Schwab talked about a Great Reset. Biden didn't do this but we are now entering into this phase of chaos, and the Great Reset, and this is what's going on. No, it isn't. The Great Reset requires an economic collapse so as to bring in a Central Bank digital currency linked to a social credit score system. If you can't see that Trump is introducing policies to prevent economic collapse (required for the Great Reset) you haven't been paying attention. The ban on Central Bank digital currency is against this agenda. Removing internet censorship is against this agenda. 1 hour ago, Piero said: It may look like the institutions of State are being brought down in the name of freedom, and laughably "transparency", but what we're actually seeing is the old system, which the cult created, being destroyed by cult operatives, to allow for the next stage of human control Nope. If that was the plan Trump would not be taking away the globalist's sources of funding. DOGE has unearthed hundreds of billion dollars in corrupt payments. Which will be clawed back. The gold held at Fort Knox is going to be audited. The missing gold will be clawed back. DOGE is looking into the missing billions paid to Ukraine. Trump is shutting down the child trafficking over the Southern border. Vital for globalist financing. I am now hearing that he is looking to go after the CIA's drug funding. In addition, an inevitable showdown with the Federal Reserve is looming. It would be utter tomfoolery to dismantle all the globalist money laundering operations if you intended to implement a globalist control system. 1 hour ago, Piero said: - which will be far more severe... founded on artificial intelligence - to play out, and to do that, you've got to get rid of regulations, and any institutions that would put a block on the playing out of the next stage of this plan... an even more extreme human control agenda. Nope. I am not a fan of AI. Unfortunately, it is unavoidable. At the moment there is an AI race between the US and China. The race is to achieve a certain level of learning. I forget what it is called. But if China achieves this first, the US may as well just surrender. China will be able to hack into and control every system in the US. Regarding your argument that getting rid of regulations furthers the globalist' agenda is incorrect. The opposite is true. The globalists want a heavily regulated AI environment where the only system is theirs. Musk, on the other hand, wants a deregulated environment which is open to all. 1 hour ago, Piero said: De-regulation means allowing the corporations, and the AI corporations, and the financial corporations to run amuck without challenge or restraint. Nope. Throughout history the greatest innovations and highest levels of prosperity have occurred at times and in places with the least regulation. Corporations want a heavily regulated environment. They will lobby government to impose barriers to entry and prevent competition. Deregulation opens up markets to competition, in which case we are all better off. 1 hour ago, Piero said: J.D. Vance's political career has been funded by Peter Thiel, who is a co-founder of a company called Palantir, which was seed funded by the CIA, to get it going, and it provides surveillance, and data processing technology, in the name of control, to the military, the Pentagon, and the intelligence community, and not just in America, either. They're trashing the old to bring in the new, and this cult created the old, and it's creating the new! The JD Vance puppet of Peter Thiel nonsense has been debunked. Numerous times. I think Robert Barnes has ripped that argument apart. With facts. 1 hour ago, Piero said: There is no democracy, and democracy has been dead for a long time. I hope so. America is a Constitutional Republic and not a Democracy. Democracy is nothing but mob rule where 51 percent of the population steals from the other 49. 1 hour ago, Piero said: What is Trump doing to dismantle that system? See above. 1 hour ago, Piero said: Like all governments, he'll make the rich richer, and the poor poorer. Trump knows that the "world is a college of corporations, inexorably determined by the immutable by-laws of business", and as we know, corporations have no soul. They're psychopathic in nature. Mussolini once stated, “The definition of fascism is The marriage of corporation and state.” All David Icke is doing is calling out fascism. And Trump is ending it. Going after all the NGOs for one. Your arguments are inconsistent by the way. Above you were bemoaning deregulation, which is necessary to end Fascism. So, which is it? Are you for free markets? Or are you for heavily regulated state-controlled markets (a.k.a. Fascism)? 1 hour ago, Piero said: The film, "Network", is about how the mainstream media has brainwashed people into believing that corporatism, and the internation system of money, is the natural order of things. Thanks for letting me know. Edited February 19 by SoundOfSilence 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EnigmaticWorld Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) 58 minutes ago, 1velocity7 said: beware of TDS It's not TDS to not want a Noahide president. Grow up. Edit: I should add that leftists might have derangement issues with Trump for the wrong reasons, but that doesn't mean I'm going to be a turbo contrarian and say Donald is our guy. Edited February 19 by EnigmaticWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted February 19 Share Posted February 19 (edited) On 11/8/2024 at 2:43 AM, EnigmaticWorld said: Not supposed to win? Dude is probably some manchurian candidate false light operation. The Key to a Trump Victory in 2024: The Noahide Laws https://israel365news.com/392012/the-key-to-a-trump-victory-in-2024-the-noahide-laws/ "Trump is the culmination of the efforts of Putin. Oligarchs, and Russian Mafia-not sure there is a distinction." Red Mafiya: How the Russian Mob Has Invaded America https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/766497.Red_Mafiya But hey, don't let me interrupt the "Big Mike" active measure party with my Soviet Israel talk. I'll guess we will soon know if Trump undermines NATO so the communist bloc can strike with the one closed fist strategy. And no, I don't support Kabbalah Harris either. She's just more obvious with her red connections. Edited February 19 by EnigmaticWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piero Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 hours ago, SoundOfSilence said: I am more interested in facts than your understanding of David Icke's views. I don't think you've quite grasped the Hegelian dialectic. The goal is to provoke a reaction so as to implement policies that the public would otherwise not be willing to embrace. Trump is exposing globalism. More people are aware of and against the establishment than ever before. That does not fit with Hegel. Hegel is about deceit and subterfuge. People are not going to embrace globalism now it has been so widely exposed. No, it isn't. The Great Reset requires an economic collapse so as to bring in a Central Bank digital currency linked to a social credit score system. If you can't see that Trump is introducing policies to prevent economic collapse (required for the Great Reset) you haven't been paying attention. The ban on Central Bank digital currency is against this agenda. Removing internet censorship is against this agenda. Nope. If that was the plan Trump would not be taking away the globalist's sources of funding. DOGE has unearthed hundreds of billion dollars in corrupt payments. Which will be clawed back. The gold held at Fort Knox is going to be audited. The missing gold will be clawed back. DOGE is looking into the missing billions paid to Ukraine. Trump is shutting down the child trafficking over the Southern border. Vital for globalist financing. I am now hearing that he is looking to go after the CIA's drug funding. In addition, an inevitable showdown with the Federal Reserve is looming. It would be utter tomfoolery to dismantle all the globalist money laundering operations if you intended to implement a globalist control system. Nope. I am not a fan of AI. Unfortunately, it is unavoidable. At the moment there is an AI race between the US and China. The race is to achieve a certain level of learning. I forget what it is called. But if China achieves this first, the US may as well just surrender. China will be able to hack into and control every system in the US. Regarding your argument that getting rid of regulations furthers the globalist' agenda is incorrect. The opposite is true. The globalists want a heavily regulated AI environment where the only system is theirs. Musk, on the other hand, wants a deregulated environment which is open to all. Nope. Throughout history the greatest innovations and highest levels of prosperity have occurred at times and in places with the least regulation. Corporations want a heavily regulated environment. They will lobby government to impose barriers to entry and prevent competition. Deregulation opens up markets to competition, in which case we are all better off. The JD Vance puppet of Peter Thiel nonsense has been debunked. Numerous times. I think Robert Barnes has ripped that argument apart. With facts. I hope so. America is a Constitutional Republic and not a Democracy. Democracy is nothing but mob rule where 51 percent of the population steals from the other 49. See above. And Trump is ending it. Going after all the NGOs for one. Your arguments are inconsistent by the way. Above you were bemoaning deregulation, which is necessary to end Fascism. So, which is it? Are you for free markets? Or are you for heavily regulated state-controlled markets (a.k.a. Fascism)? Thanks for letting me know. Our exchange hasn't been a waste of time, It was interesting reading your views, but we'll have to agree to disagree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 5 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said: What the ... Russian mafia operating in New Jersey during the cold war? You don't have a problem with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 8 hours ago, Piero said: Our exchange hasn't been a waste of time, It was interesting reading your views, but we'll have to agree to disagree. Fair enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) 3 hours ago, SoundOfSilence said: What the ... Russian mafia operating in New Jersey during the cold war? You don't have a problem with that? What? I'm pro white and therefore can't support Trump and the Soviet Israel mob. Edited February 20 by EnigmaticWorld Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 2 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: What? I'm pro white and therefore can't support Trump and the Soviet Israel mob. Well, one thing is clear. You're not pro reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1velocity7 Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 5 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said: What? I'm pro white and therefore can't support Trump and the Soviet Israel mob. so you support the white hating uk civil service? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted February 20 Share Posted February 20 (edited) On 2/19/2025 at 9:56 PM, SoundOfSilence said: In addition, an inevitable showdown with the Federal Reserve is looming. And, he is going to go after Fauci too... Edited February 20 by numnuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 10 minutes ago, numnuts said: And, he is going to go after Fauci too... 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 On 2/19/2025 at 9:56 PM, SoundOfSilence said: I am more interested in facts than your understanding of David Icke's views. I don't think you've quite grasped the Hegelian dialectic. The goal is to provoke a reaction so as to implement policies that the public would otherwise not be willing to embrace. Trump is exposing globalism. More people are aware of and against the establishment than ever before. That does not fit with Hegel. Hegel is about deceit and subterfuge. People are not going to embrace globalism now it has been so widely exposed. No, it isn't. The Great Reset requires an economic collapse so as to bring in a Central Bank digital currency linked to a social credit score system. If you can't see that Trump is introducing policies to prevent economic collapse (required for the Great Reset) you haven't been paying attention. The ban on Central Bank digital currency is against this agenda. Removing internet censorship is against this agenda. Nope. If that was the plan Trump would not be taking away the globalist's sources of funding. DOGE has unearthed hundreds of billion dollars in corrupt payments. Which will be clawed back. The gold held at Fort Knox is going to be audited. The missing gold will be clawed back. DOGE is looking into the missing billions paid to Ukraine. Trump is shutting down the child trafficking over the Southern border. Vital for globalist financing. I am now hearing that he is looking to go after the CIA's drug funding. In addition, an inevitable showdown with the Federal Reserve is looming. It would be utter tomfoolery to dismantle all the globalist money laundering operations if you intended to implement a globalist control system. Nope. I am not a fan of AI. Unfortunately, it is unavoidable. At the moment there is an AI race between the US and China. The race is to achieve a certain level of learning. I forget what it is called. But if China achieves this first, the US may as well just surrender. China will be able to hack into and control every system in the US. Regarding your argument that getting rid of regulations furthers the globalist' agenda is incorrect. The opposite is true. The globalists want a heavily regulated AI environment where the only system is theirs. Musk, on the other hand, wants a deregulated environment which is open to all. Nope. Throughout history the greatest innovations and highest levels of prosperity have occurred at times and in places with the least regulation. Corporations want a heavily regulated environment. They will lobby government to impose barriers to entry and prevent competition. Deregulation opens up markets to competition, in which case we are all better off. The JD Vance puppet of Peter Thiel nonsense has been debunked. Numerous times. I think Robert Barnes has ripped that argument apart. With facts. I hope so. America is a Constitutional Republic and not a Democracy. Democracy is nothing but mob rule where 51 percent of the population steals from the other 49. See above. And Trump is ending it. Going after all the NGOs for one. Your arguments are inconsistent by the way. Above you were bemoaning deregulation, which is necessary to end Fascism. So, which is it? Are you for free markets? Or are you for heavily regulated state-controlled markets (a.k.a. Fascism)? Thanks for letting me know. Mod note. Can you keep the tone polite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted February 21 Share Posted February 21 Trump has pulled funding from any educational institution that requires students to get the clot shot. I don't know that there are many people around who would still get jabbed these days. Though there ere may still be some die-hards left (pun intended). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SoundOfSilence Posted February 25 Share Posted February 25 Representative Anna Paulina Luna has called out Pam Bondi for slow walking the release of the JFK and Epstein files. BREAKING: Rep. Luna Accuses Bondi of Covering Up Epstein Docs! - County Local News I think that the JFK files can be released immediately. I am not so sure about the Epstein files. I understand that there are literally rooms and rooms filled with video and other evidence of Epstein's blackmail operations. So, I doubt Bondi's clam that the files are on her desk. I expect this will take some time to go through as care needs to be taken to ensure that victims are not named or exposed. Plus some of the video evidence will to be able to be released at all. That may be used in a criminal investigation/prosecution. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 Some of the Epstein documents have been released. However, it seems that some Deep State holdouts are not onboard. Kash Patel won't be happy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 Trump should have appointed Paxton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted February 28 Share Posted February 28 1 hour ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said: Trump should have appointed Paxton. It's not Bondi. Apparently, there are FBI holdouts in NY that have refused to hand over documents. Plus, a lot of them have already been destroyed (documents - not FBI holdouts) - or so the Deep State thinks. I heard that Bondi wrote to Patel asking him to recover said documents. Apparently, the FBI raided the FBI. A team was sent to NY and they have taken everything. I have also heard that the documents were not successfully destroyed. Some honest FBI agents took documents and copies etc. James Comey's daughter is heavily implicated in the coverup. She was overseeing the Epstein and the P Didddy prosecutions. The more I hear, the more it seems that Bondi knew that documents had been removed, where they were and was setting a trap to get proof of who was involved in the coverup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katsika Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 https://francesleader.substack.com/p/ukraine-is-a-33rd-degree-chess-game?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=667911&post_id=158142489&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjo3MzA5MjAyNiwicG9zdF9pZCI6MTU4MTQyNDg5LCJpYXQiOjE3NDA3ODgyMjcsImV4cCI6MTc0MzM4MDIyNywiaXNzIjoicHViLTY2NzkxMSIsInN1YiI6InBvc3QtcmVhY3Rpb24ifQ.9A0cL4vUlQSPj-OUrST7CMRlLPfMd8KfccVgOt1lTO8&r=17im62&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email " But here is my take: At the end of the day, the two leaders abandoned plans to sign a minerals deal which would have given further US military support in exchange for access to Ukraine’s natural resources. I think Trump is a globalist and his main reason for playing the part of the peacemaker is to get his sticky mitts on the rare earth minerals under Ukraine's prime grain growing land. The globalists want to tear that country up with deep vast mining operations run by international corporations for international crime syndicate coffers. The USA taxpayer won't get its $300 billion investment back - that is gone to the military complex for the regeneration of military hardware and novel weapons. They needed to waste their stockpiles to make room for the future electro-magnetic pulse and laser star wars ordnance." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 10 hours ago, Katsika said: https://francesleader.substack.com/p/ukraine-is-a-33rd-degree-chess-game?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=667911&post_id=158142489&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjo3MzA5MjAyNiwicG9zdF9pZCI6MTU4MTQyNDg5LCJpYXQiOjE3NDA3ODgyMjcsImV4cCI6MTc0MzM4MDIyNywiaXNzIjoicHViLTY2NzkxMSIsInN1YiI6InBvc3QtcmVhY3Rpb24ifQ.9A0cL4vUlQSPj-OUrST7CMRlLPfMd8KfccVgOt1lTO8&r=17im62&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email " But here is my take: At the end of the day, the two leaders abandoned plans to sign a minerals deal which would have given further US military support in exchange for access to Ukraine’s natural resources. I think Trump is a globalist and his main reason for playing the part of the peacemaker is to get his sticky mitts on the rare earth minerals under Ukraine's prime grain growing land. The globalists want to tear that country up with deep vast mining operations run by international corporations for international crime syndicate coffers. The USA taxpayer won't get its $300 billion investment back - that is gone to the military complex for the regeneration of military hardware and novel weapons. They needed to waste their stockpiles to make room for the future electro-magnetic pulse and laser star wars ordnance." But the globalists already had control of these, alleged, rare earth minerals before they embarked on the misguided campaign to weaken Russia. If that was their goal, which was achieved, why goad Russia into a war? The globalists already owned Ukraine. Edit: Trump did propose a fifty percent cut in defense spending too. Which goes against the Military Industrial Complex. Edited March 1 by SoundOfSilence 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 On 2/28/2025 at 5:51 PM, SoundOfSilence said: It's not Bondi. Apparently, there are FBI holdouts in NY that have refused to hand over documents. Plus, a lot of them have already been destroyed (documents - not FBI holdouts) - or so the Deep State thinks. I heard that Bondi wrote to Patel asking him to recover said documents. Apparently, the FBI raided the FBI. A team was sent to NY and they have taken everything. I have also heard that the documents were not successfully destroyed. Some honest FBI agents took documents and copies etc. James Comey's daughter is heavily implicated in the coverup. She was overseeing the Epstein and the P Didddy prosecutions. The more I hear, the more it seems that Bondi knew that documents had been removed, where they were and was setting a trap to get proof of who was involved in the coverup. The FBI, like most federal agencies, does everything in triplicate. I have no doubt that a complete file exists somewhere. Bondi went off at half-cock saying she had the file on her desk when she didn't. It makes it look like she's incompetent. Trump may see it that way too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1velocity7 Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 it was a sting to see who moved 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northern star Posted March 2 Share Posted March 2 This list has appeared - if legit everyone on this list should be questioned regarding their links to Epstein. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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