American Election 2024

[SoundOfSilence]

2 minutes ago, Katsika said:

I wasn't clear in what I asked - and a CBDC (hiding behind crypto). - I know what CBDC means, the credit score etc. but I don't understand what hiding behind Crypto means - (I know what hiding means).

 

Phew!

 

I haven't read the article, but I assume that the answer isn't in there.

 

I sort of addressed it but rather clumsily.

 

As far as I can discern, it is the theory that Trump will get everyone to accept Bitcoin (or some other crypto) so everyone is comfortable with its usage and invested. Once the currency is accepted the Federal Reserve will then take it over and everyone will be locked in.

 

It is an absurd theory for a couple of reasons.

 

Taking Bitcoin, it is decentralized and worked into the algorithm is a limit on the number of units than can be issued/mined.

 

This is incompatible with what the globalists want. For one, they won't be able to inflate the currency to fund wars and homes for Elensky. Two, they will not have control over it and won't be able to use it punitively. 

 

The only way for it to work, as the globalists intend, is for the Fed to create its own. 

 

2 minutes ago, Katsika said:

 

Thankfully my goats don't have unwelcome thoughts and are rarely on the internet except to check out "Caprines of the month from around the world".

 

I had to look up the definition of caprine.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if such a website did exist. Probably on the Dark Web.

 

2 minutes ago, Katsika said:

 

Agreed.  Nor their parent, the Bank for International Settlement.

 

Other way around. Central banks hold stock in BIS.

 

Most central banks are majority owned by Rothschild.

 

[SoundOfSilence]

It seems that Putin and Elensky are going to sit down and talk.

 

Putin acknowledged that the 2020 election was stolen and that the war would have never happened if Trump had of been in office. Both true.

 

While I thought Trump's threats of further sanctions were hollow, they may have had more force behind them than I realized.

 

Russia was able to ride the Blinken sanctions because of high oil prices.

 

Trump's declaration of a national emergency and 'drill, baby, drill' will result in depressing oil prices, in which case the sanctions may start to bite.

 

It seems Trump has more to negotiate with then I first thought.

 

Cutting off aid to Elensky has forced him to the negotiating table.

 

Nice to have an adult back in the White House.

[Mr H]

2 hours ago, SoundOfSilence said:

 

Phew!

 

I haven't read the article, but I assume that the answer isn't in there.

 

I sort of addressed it but rather clumsily.

 

As far as I can discern, it is the theory that Trump will get everyone to accept Bitcoin (or some other crypto) so everyone is comfortable with its usage and invested. Once the currency is accepted the Federal Reserve will then take it over and everyone will be locked in.

 

It is an absurd theory for a couple of reasons.

 

Taking Bitcoin, it is decentralized and worked into the algorithm is a limit on the number of units than can be issued/mined.

 

This is incompatible with what the globalists want. For one, they won't be able to inflate the currency to fund wars and homes for Elensky. Two, they will not have control over it and won't be able to use it punitively. 

 

The only way for it to work, as the globalists intend, is for the Fed to create its own. 

 

 

I had to look up the definition of caprine.

 

It wouldn't surprise me if such a website did exist. Probably on the Dark Web.

 

 

Other way around. Central banks hold stock in BIS.

 

Most central banks are majority owned by Rothschild.

 

There were concerns while back about USDC the stable coin being used ostensibly as a CBDC. USDC is owned by Circle which is part owned by black rock and they applied for a reverse reppo function with the FED and at the same time the fed set up Fednow payment system. Not sure if granted, or how exactly it would function as a CBDC but it did start a conspiracy rumor. I'm not sure if this is what is referred to?

Edited January 24 by Mr H

[SoundOfSilence]

I alluded to this in a previous post. It looks like Trump is headed for a show down with the Federal Reserve.

 

Fed's Powell says he will not quit even if asked by Trump | Reuters

 

"Powell was asked if he'd exit central bank leadership if asked by Trump, who repeatedly attacked him in his first term as president. Powell said flatly "no" and noted that removing him, or any of the other Fed governors, ahead of the end of their terms is "not permitted under the law."

 

It is true that a Fed Chairman can only be removed for cause during his term.

 

According to the article:

 

"At the same time, policies Trump says he favors - high and expansive trade tariffs and massive deportations of undocumented immigrants - are likely to restart the fires of inflation the central bank has had success cooling."

 

Utter nonsense.

 

Neither of these will lead to inflation. Inflation is not rising prices. Inflation is an increase in the money supply which makes its way into circulation.

 

"If Trump policies do create that reality it could stop the Fed from cutting rates as far as it might otherwise have expected, and could even force the central bank to raise rates."

 

And here is where we could have a falling out.

 

Andrew Jackson went up against the bankers. There was an attempted assassination.

 

Lincoln went up against the Central Bankers by issuing his own currency to fund the Civil War. The notes were green on one side. Called 'greenbacks'.

 

Kennedy also went up against the central banks. Executive Order 11110.

 

Central banks do get a bit resentful when their legitimacy is challenged.

 

 

 

[SoundOfSilence]

9 minutes ago, Mr H said:

There were concerns while back about USDC the stable coin being used ostensibly as a CBDC. USDC is owned by Circle which is part owned by black rock and they applied for a reverse reppo function with the FED and at the same time the fed set up Fednow payment system. Not sure if granted, or how exactly it would function as a CBDC but it did start a conspiracy rumor. I'm not sure if this is what is referred to?

Not sure.

 

I am aware that the Fed had something ready to roll out. But I don't know the details.

 

It could be that.

[Fifth element]

EPSTEIN BLACKMAIL ISRAEL MOSSAD  Saving Israel for Last?

Tennessee Republicans Sen. Marsha Blackburn and Rep. Tim Burchett revealed to DailyMail they are pushing to have evidence on the nefarious financier unveiled.  The senator has been advocating for the sealed Epstein documents to be released for years, an effort Burchett joined early on.  Blackburn has pushed to uncover unredacted versions of Epstein's flight logs and and an unredacted version of Ghislaine Maxwell 's 'little black book' full of contacts and addresses - an effort she's now seeking Trump to act on.  And she's advocating for the Trump administration's Department of Justice to release additional evidence like prison footage and communications leading up to Epstein's death.  'Jeffrey Epstein built a disgusting global sex trafficking network that caused irreparable damage to countless women she told DailyMail in a statement. 'Americans deserve to know exactly who was affiliated with this network. This is not about celebrities - this is about what happened to victims and survivors.'

 

[Jason57]

4 hours ago, Fifth element said:

EPSTEIN BLACKMAIL ISRAEL MOSSAD  Saving Israel for Last?

Tennessee Republicans Sen. Marsha Blackburn and Rep. Tim Burchett revealed to DailyMail they are pushing to have evidence on the nefarious financier unveiled.  The senator has been advocating for the sealed Epstein documents to be released for years, an effort Burchett joined early on.  Blackburn has pushed to uncover unredacted versions of Epstein's flight logs and and an unredacted version of Ghislaine Maxwell 's 'little black book' full of contacts and addresses - an effort she's now seeking Trump to act on.  And she's advocating for the Trump administration's Department of Justice to release additional evidence like prison footage and communications leading up to Epstein's death.  'Jeffrey Epstein built a disgusting global sex trafficking network that caused irreparable damage to countless women she told DailyMail in a statement. 'Americans deserve to know exactly who was affiliated with this network. This is not about celebrities - this is about what happened to victims and survivors.'

 

Let's be honest, if Trump does release the Epstien files, the sheep are still going to fawn over their noncing heroes in Hollywood. Most the names are already out, the people don't care because the media isn't covering it, mainly because some media folk were on that Island like Anderson Cooper, Kimmel and Colbert.

[Katsika]

Was Trump ever on the island?

[SoundOfSilence]

48 minutes ago, Katsika said:

Was Trump ever on the island?

No.

 

He once flew on Epstein's jet from Florida to New York, or something like that.

 

They ran into each other occasionally until Trump had Epstein kicked out of Mar-A-Lago for inappropriate conduct. Trump did once state that Epstein likes them young. It was after he had him thrown out.

 

Trump goes for supermodels. Not young girls.

[SoundOfSilence]

1 hour ago, Jason57 said:

Let's be honest, if Trump does release the Epstien files, the sheep are still going to fawn over their noncing heroes in Hollywood. Most the names are already out, the people don't care because the media isn't covering it, mainly because some media folk were on that Island like Anderson Cooper, Kimmel and Colbert.

I wouldn't be surprised if the list is released.

 

Trump is destroying the globalist infrastructure. Including going after the child trafficking at the border.

 

Anderson Cooper is a Vanderbilt. CIA.

[SoundOfSilence]

5 hours ago, Fifth element said:

EPSTEIN BLACKMAIL ISRAEL MOSSAD  Saving Israel for Last?

Tennessee Republicans Sen. Marsha Blackburn and Rep. Tim Burchett revealed to DailyMail they are pushing to have evidence on the nefarious financier unveiled.  The senator has been advocating for the sealed Epstein documents to be released for years, an effort Burchett joined early on.  Blackburn has pushed to uncover unredacted versions of Epstein's flight logs and and an unredacted version of Ghislaine Maxwell 's 'little black book' full of contacts and addresses - an effort she's now seeking Trump to act on.  And she's advocating for the Trump administration's Department of Justice to release additional evidence like prison footage and communications leading up to Epstein's death.  'Jeffrey Epstein built a disgusting global sex trafficking network that caused irreparable damage to countless women she told DailyMail in a statement. 'Americans deserve to know exactly who was affiliated with this network. This is not about celebrities - this is about what happened to victims and survivors.'

 

Epstein wasn't just tied to Mossad.

 

He was setting honeytraps and blackmailing for of all the Five Eyes as well.

 

Intelligence agencies don't work for governments. They pervert and control governments.

 

As a victim of an assassin's bullet once said, 'The CIA needs to be torn into a thousand pieces'.

[Jason57]

8 hours ago, SoundOfSilence said:

I wouldn't be surprised if the list is released.

 

Trump is destroying the globalist infrastructure. Including going after the child trafficking at the border.

 

Anderson Cooper is a Vanderbilt. CIA.

Is there any truth to the claims that Trump testified against Epstien?

[Mr H]

On 1/24/2025 at 6:34 PM, SoundOfSilence said:

 

 

 

Taking Bitcoin, it is decentralized and worked into the algorithm is a limit on the number of units than can be issued/mined.

 

This is incompatible with what the globalists want. For one, they won't be able to inflate the currency to fund wars and homes for Elensky. Two, they will not have control over it and won't be able to use it punitively. 

 

The only way for it to work, as the globalists intend, is for the Fed to create its own. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This limited supply aspect is also BTC downfall and why it cannot be a currency ultimately imo. 

 

You need an inflation mechanism reflex to population expansion, otherwise the economy goes into a deflationary death spiral.

 

10 BITCOIN 10 people = 1btc/p

10 BITCOIN 20 people = 1/2 btc/p

10 Bitcoin 40 people = 1/4btc/p

 

Etc.... wages etc to 0 eventually 

[Katsika]

On 1/24/2025 at 10:16 PM, SoundOfSilence said:

Cutting off aid to Elensky has forced him to the negotiating table.

According to below, it is only humanitarian aid that has been cut.

 

US: Floors payments to almost all countries, military assistance to Ukraine continues to arrive (video)

 

US: Floors payments to almost all countries, military assistance to Ukraine continues to arrive (video)

Источник: https://rua.gr/news/european-news/vojna-v-ukraine/68898-ssha-zamorozheny-vyplaty-pochti-vsem-stranam-voennaya-pomoshch-ukraine-prodolzhaet-postupat.html

https://rua.gr/news/european-news/vojna-v-ukraine/68898-ssha-zamorozheny-vyplaty-pochti-vsem-stranam-voennaya-pomoshch-ukraine-prodolzhaet-postupat.html

(Snippets)

"Reuters and Politico, citing a telegram from the State Department, reported on Saturday, January 25, about the suspension of all payments of assistance from the United States, except those destined for Israel and Egypt.

 

U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio issued an order freezing for 90 days of payments on most of the existing grants for foreign assistance and suspending the allocation of new grants. Earlier, US President Donald Trump ordered to suspend aid payments to check whether the distribution of these funds corresponds to his foreign policy.

 

After it became known that the new US Secretary of State Marco Rubio stopped the issuance of most of the existing foreign aid grants for 90 days, one current State Department official and two former officials of the Joe Biden administration said that this pause appears to stop helping key allies such as Ukraine, Jordan and Taiwan. At the same time, the correspondent of “Wan of America” Ostap Yarish, with reference to the interlocutors in the Pentagon, explained in his X that “this decree of military support does not concern”. Thus, the situation is as follows:

 

USAI - not stopped, long-term contracts for the production of weapons for Ukraine will continue to be fulfilled.

 

PDA - it can not be stopped in principle, there is Trump's $ 1 billion from Biden, and he will either allocate it or not allocate it.

 

FMF - stopped, but all funds for it have already been allocated to Ukraine, so this will not affect supplies in any way.

 

USAID - a humanitarian - suspended for 85 days until the subsequent decision of Trump and Rubio, it is likely to cut costs. But this humanitarian is not specifically for Ukraine, but by all 100+ countries for which the USAID program operates. That is, the program itself has been stopped, which is considered ineffective.

 

USAID - direct budget assistance to Ukraine - has already been fully allocated, so the suspension will not affect.

 

So in Ukraine, everything remains as it is, except for the humanitarian."

 

 

[Katsika]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14325703/Trump-world-health-organization-las-vegas-rally.html

 

Trump makes dramatic pivot on stance towards the World Health Organization... days after ordering exit

[SoundOfSilence]

12 hours ago, Jason57 said:

Is there any truth to the claims that Trump testified against Epstien?

Sorry, I have absolutely no idea.

 

This is the first I've heard of it. Doesn't mean it isn't true, just that I am not aware of it.

[SoundOfSilence]

1 hour ago, Katsika said:

According to below, it is only humanitarian aid that has been cut.

 

US: Floors payments to almost all countries, military assistance to Ukraine continues to arrive (video)

 

US: Floors payments to almost all countries, military assistance to Ukraine continues to arrive (video)

Источник: https://rua.gr/news/european-news/vojna-v-ukraine/68898-ssha-zamorozheny-vyplaty-pochti-vsem-stranam-voennaya-pomoshch-ukraine-prodolzhaet-postupat.html

https://rua.gr/news/european-news/vojna-v-ukraine/68898-ssha-zamorozheny-vyplaty-pochti-vsem-stranam-voennaya-pomoshch-ukraine-prodolzhaet-postupat.html

(Snippets)

"Reuters and Politico, citing a telegram from the State Department, reported on Saturday, January 25, about the suspension of all payments of assistance from the United States, except those destined for Israel and Egypt.

 

U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio issued an order freezing for 90 days of payments on most of the existing grants for foreign assistance and suspending the allocation of new grants. Earlier, US President Donald Trump ordered to suspend aid payments to check whether the distribution of these funds corresponds to his foreign policy.

 

After it became known that the new US Secretary of State Marco Rubio stopped the issuance of most of the existing foreign aid grants for 90 days, one current State Department official and two former officials of the Joe Biden administration said that this pause appears to stop helping key allies such as Ukraine, Jordan and Taiwan. At the same time, the correspondent of “Wan of America” Ostap Yarish, with reference to the interlocutors in the Pentagon, explained in his X that “this decree of military support does not concern”. Thus, the situation is as follows:

 

USAI - not stopped, long-term contracts for the production of weapons for Ukraine will continue to be fulfilled.

 

PDA - it can not be stopped in principle, there is Trump's $ 1 billion from Biden, and he will either allocate it or not allocate it.

 

FMF - stopped, but all funds for it have already been allocated to Ukraine, so this will not affect supplies in any way.

 

USAID - a humanitarian - suspended for 85 days until the subsequent decision of Trump and Rubio, it is likely to cut costs. But this humanitarian is not specifically for Ukraine, but by all 100+ countries for which the USAID program operates. That is, the program itself has been stopped, which is considered ineffective.

 

USAID - direct budget assistance to Ukraine - has already been fully allocated, so the suspension will not affect.

 

So in Ukraine, everything remains as it is, except for the humanitarian."

 

 

According to this, which cites the Rubio memo it includes Ukraine and it includes military.

 

Donald Trump Just Cut All Foreign Aid to Ukraine and Most of the World | The New Republic

 

The moneys haven't been cut. Just frozen to enable an audit to be carried out over 90 days (roughly).

 

It is as good as cutting. Ukraine can't survive 90 days.

 

I have seen a lot of discussions of this point. It doesn't seem to be disputed.

 

 

[SoundOfSilence]

4 hours ago, Mr H said:

This limited supply aspect is also BTC downfall and why it cannot be a currency ultimately imo. 

 

You need an inflation mechanism reflex to population expansion, otherwise the economy goes into a deflationary death spiral.

 

10 BITCOIN 10 people = 1btc/p

10 BITCOIN 20 people = 1/2 btc/p

10 Bitcoin 40 people = 1/4btc/p

 

Etc.... wages etc to 0 eventually 

I don't see any economic reason requiring the inflation of the currency.

 

Central bankers and globalists may wish to trick people into believing this, but that is so they can fund wars and loot from the public.

 

Inflation is not uniform. That is those who get the newly printed money first get full value for their dollar. It is only once the new money has been in circulation for a while that the value of the currency starts to erode.

 

And we all know who gets the money first. The bankers.

 

Inflation is actually the cruelest form of taxation. Because if steals from people's savings. Eroding the purchasing value of retiree's pensions.

 

As for the argument that it is needed for population expansion, this is not correct.

 

As population grows more people enter the workforce and more goods are produced. With more goods being produced (applying Say's law - markets clear) the price of goods declines. While it is true there are more people requiring currency, since goods are cheaper, they need less of it. 

 

In a true free market economy goods and services become cheaper as productivity increases. The only reason this is not always observed is that inflation robs from these efficiency gains.

[EnigmaticWorld]

"Yeh, lets just let Europeans get raped by the Asiatic hordes again. We'll keeping giving money to Israel and Egypt though, but who cares if the Bolshevik menace destroys what was Ukraine? Who cares if they have Poland and other nations in their crosshairs?"

 

Normoids should be forced to read stories from the Eurasianists own mouths before they can comment on geopolitics. It's all just a cringe shitshow full of people that hate the West and its allies.

 

 

[SoundOfSilence]

1 hour ago, Katsika said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14325703/Trump-world-health-organization-las-vegas-rally.html

 

Trump makes dramatic pivot on stance towards the World Health Organization... days after ordering exit

I think that is somewhat overstating the case.

 

He said he would consider going back in if it cleaned up its act. Which he knows won't happen. Hardly a pivot.

 

From the article:

 

The president told a rally in Las Vegas' Circa Resort & Casino on Saturday that he would 'consider doing it again', but was far from committal. 

 

'I don't know, they have to clean it up a bit,' he added. 

[SoundOfSilence]

3 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

"Yeh, lets just let Europeans get raped by the Asiatic hordes again. We'll keeping giving money to Israel and Egypt though, but who cares if the Bolshevik menace destroys what was Ukraine? Who cares if they have Poland and other nations in their crosshairs?"

 

When has Putin ever said that?

 

Russia has no intention of moving into Europe. 

 

Bolsheviks?

 

You do realize that Russia is no longer the Soviet Union, right?

[Mr H]

10 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said:

.

 

As for the argument that it is needed for population expansion, this is not correct.

 

As population grows more people enter the workforce and more goods are produced. With more goods being produced (applying Say's law - markets clear) the price of goods declines. While it is true there are more people requiring currency, since goods are cheaper, they need less of it. 

 

In a true free market economy goods and services become cheaper as productivity increases. The only reason this is not always observed is that inflation robs from these efficiency gains.

The great depression was caused because they contracted the money supply. It caused a deflationary environment. In this environment there isn't enough cash to pay bills. Wages decrease. 

 

Deflation is far worse than inflation and causes depressions.

 

Btc would be permanently deflationary. People would not be incentivized to be more productive with increasing lower wages. There would be lack of cash to make payments.

 

I just can't see it working personally. But it's a great speculation for the time being.

[SoundOfSilence]

6 minutes ago, Mr H said:

The great depression was caused because they contracted the money supply. It caused a deflationary environment. In this environment there isn't enough cash to pay bills. Wages decrease. 

 

The great depression was indeed caused by deflating the money supply. But this was a deliberate act on the part of the central bank. To remove currency from circulation.

 

Murray Rothbard has written an excellent book on this. Forget the name, Great Depression or something. Can be downloaded for free on www.mises.org, or it used to be years ago.

 

The book has graphs showing the decrease in the money supply. But it was active Federal Reserve policy. 

 

It wasn't caused by having a finite amount of currency in circulation and a growing population.

 

6 minutes ago, Mr H said:

 

Deflation is far worse than inflation and causes depressions.

 

So can inflation.

 

Wehrmacht Republic?

 

6 minutes ago, Mr H said:

 

Btc would be permanently deflationary.

 

Not true. 

 

Deflation is a contraction of the money supply.

 

Bitcoin cannot cause this.

 

6 minutes ago, Mr H said:

People would not be incentivized to be more productive with increasing lower wages. There would be lack of cash to make payments.

 

I can feel a bit of John Maynard Keynes behind that argument.

 

He came up with the absurd concept of inflating the money supply to trick workers into accepting lower wages while giving them the appearance of having the same pay.

 

But, again, this requires the central bank to change the money supply.

 

6 minutes ago, Mr H said:

 

I just can't see it working personally. But it's a great speculation for the time being.

 

We don't need to speculate. We just need to look at Spain a few centuries ago.

 

An absolute economic powerhouse. Thriving, stable economy. Stable currency.

 

Then a lot of gold was imported from South America, Aztec, and Spain had rampant inflation and a collapsed economy.

 

It was never the same European powerhouse again.

[cemeterycrow]

 

[SoundOfSilence]

Tom Homan has already tracked down 75,000 to 80,000 of the children trafficked by the Biden Administration.

 

 

This is the way to go after the Deep State/Globalists.

 

Child trafficking is far more lucrative than drugs and is a major source of funding.

 

Shutting down this and making arrests will devastate the Globalists.