epsom Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 What Stalin/Starmer is doing is NOT legal or lawful. He is supposed to be a lawyer?. Well, we are supposed to protected against unjust "laws" that are made up ad hoc----and we are supposed to be protected against a dictatorship. Labour did NOT get a landslide---far from it. Over 60% of people did NOT vote for them----which does NOT give Starmer carte blanche to act like a dictator. Is the UK still bound by ECHR? Brexit was about leaving the EU. It did not impact the Council of Europe, so the UK still has to follow the ECHR and judgments from the European Court of Human Rights. Article 5--THE RIGHT TO LIBERTY AND SECURITY You have the right to liberty. If you are arrested, you have the right to know why. If you are arrested you have the right to stand trial soon, or to be released until the trial takes place. Article 7--NO PUNISHMENT WITHOUT LAW You cannot be held guilty of a crime if there was no law against it when you did it. Article 9--FREEDOM OF THOUGHT, CONSIENCE AND RELIGION You have the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion. You have the right to practise your religion at home and in public and to change your religion if you want. Article 10 ‐ FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION You have the right to responsibly say and write what you think and to give and receive information from others. This includes freedom of the press. Above are a few of the important ECHR rights--- WE ARE STILL BOUND BY THEM. Where are the REAL lawyers, with GUTS, that can use the ECHR?. STARMER IS COMMITING TREASON---IN MANY WAYS. IT WILL NOT END WELL FOR HIM OR LABOUR IF THIS CONTINUES. *****Is the UK Government removing the Human Rights Act? The Rights Removal Bill is dead As it turned out, the Justice Secretary already had a date in parliament on 27th June 2023 to share something important about our Human Rights Act: just hours before our event, he confirmed that the Government will no longer be pursing the Bill of Rights Bill. Can the UK parliament break human rights? Parliament is responsible for making the laws in the UK. When Parliament makes laws it doesn't have to follow the Human Rights Act. This means it can make laws which go against or are incompatible with the Human Rights Act. Are ECHR and HRA the same? At the outset, it is important to explain that the HRA stands independently of the UK's membership of the ECHR and the Council of Europe, because it is a UK law passed by our parliament. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78ast78dgyad Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 It's preparation for something much bigger maybe a monkeypox lockdown? Maybe conscription for Iran/Russia? It feels like a test 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lilymoon Posted August 16, 2024 Share Posted August 16, 2024 The UK has had history of conservatives government running the country and these laws are being past.I hate to see what the liberals are going to do or the worker party. But it is clear some how the UK is destroying the bill of rights with many laws that would only come out of Russia or China. I wonder where the UK government is getting this ideas from, the world economic forum? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted August 17, 2024 Share Posted August 17, 2024 On 8/15/2024 at 11:14 AM, epsom said: Labour did NOT get a landslide---far from it. Over 60% of people did NOT vote for them----which does NOT give Starmer carte blanche to act like a dictator. Is the UK still bound by ECHR? Brexit was about leaving the EU. It did not impact the Council of Europe, so the UK still has to follow the ECHR and judgments from the European Court of Human Rights. Article 5--THE RIGHT TO LIBERTY AND SECURITY You have the right to liberty. If you are arrested, you have the right to know why. If you are arrested you have the right to stand trial soon, or to be released until the trial takes place. Article 7--NO PUNISHMENT WITHOUT LAW You cannot be held guilty of a crime if there was no law against it when you did it. Article 9--FREEDOM OF THOUGHT, CONSIENCE AND RELIGION You have the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion. You have the right to practise your religion at home and in public and to change your religion if you want. Article 10 ‐ FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION You have the right to responsibly say and write what you think and to give and receive information from others. This includes freedom of the press. Above are a few of the important ECHR rights--- WE ARE STILL BOUND BY THEM. Where are the REAL lawyers, with GUTS, that can use the ECHR?. STARMER IS COMMITING TREASON---IN MANY WAYS. IT WILL NOT END WELL FOR HIM OR LABOUR IF THIS CONTINUES. That's a very interesting point. There are some people who have focused on the 'negative' aspects of the EHCR, and I note with interest that the likes of Nigel Farage have led calls for the UK for 'withdraw' from the EHCR altogether. It does make me wonder if there is some other ulterior motive at play, and whether we do have 'pied pipers' trying to lead people down a path that ultimately leads to the same goal as those we are trying to fight back against. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted August 21, 2024 Share Posted August 21, 2024 All of the folks who gave their lives for ths country, supposedly for 'freedom', will be turning in their graves. Look beyond the misogyny headline and we have the 'cracking down on those pushing harmful and hateful beliefs' bit. That's about as close to saying 'anything we don't like', as you are ever going to get. Genius. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c15gn0lq7p5o 'Misogyny to be treated as extremism by UK government.' Ms Cooper said the strategy will "map and monitor extremist trends" to work out how to disrupt and divert people away from them. It will also "identify any gaps in existing policy which need to be addressed to crack down on those pushing harmful and hateful beliefs and violence", she said. Ms Cooper said that action against extremism has been "badly hollowed out" in recent years. The work will inform a new counter-extremism strategy, which was promised in Labour's manifesto and which the Home Office says will "respond to growing and changing patterns" of extremism across the UK. The review is expected to be completed by October. It is one of a number of policy reviews Labour has announced since coming to power in July, including the Strategic Defence Review, spending review and a review of the National Curriculum. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONJAY79 Posted August 26, 2024 Share Posted August 26, 2024 The country is going in the direction they want it to go in . World health organisation has their people in place. The UK is being destroyed on purpose probably the kalergi plan was true after all . We also have western nations eager to give their sovereignty away to world health organisation in times of a pandemic. But the world health organisation was more or less controlled by the Chinese communist party. So if we ever go to war with China all China has to do is declare a pandemic and order the world health organisation to stick us on lockdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted August 26, 2024 Share Posted August 26, 2024 I kinda used to think the legal system here to protect us. Doesn't seem to be the case. Not much you can do about it either.... seemingly. What amazes me, something like not knowing the laws can end your freedom permanently on this earth, and they don't teach you it in schools we're just meant to know.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numnuts Posted September 24, 2024 Share Posted September 24, 2024 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinJ Posted September 26, 2024 Share Posted September 26, 2024 And on the subject of freedom of speech, Derek Broze, journalist and founder of Conscious Resistance was detained for 5 hours at Heathrow Airport while on route to the Peoples Reset in Bath just yesterday. Detention also included all members of the family that were travelling together with him. He was accused of being in a terrorist group amongst other stuff. Derek posted his experience on his Facebook page. Dystopia has arrived to the UK. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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