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Mr H

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So Iistented to Keir Starmer bumble on about what a women is.

 

Thought maybe a discussion about what is an human? Have you thought about it?

 

I think if we ask public they will probably point to a body. Now before I speak any spiritual gobbledegook. Right of the bat we have a problem just from a logic/ scientific standpoint. 

 

The separation by the body, or the skin boundary is problematic. Where does one end and the other begin? For my body is connected to the air which it needs to live to breath, it's connected to the ground which is necessary for me to eat. From this vantage point the body is a lot larger than one may think! A new born baby has no idea of separation, it is taught so by culture, largely so it can learn how to get food.

 

But let's break it down further. And let's look at our experience of being a human. Because if we don't go with experience the alternative is to run with beliefs, defined as "conviction of the truth of a proposition or alleged fact without knowledge".

 

So what experiences do humans have?

 

Thoughts, feelings, perceptions and sensations.

 

If you examine all human experience, it is intermittent. Thoughts come and go. Perceptions and sensations of the body, come and go. But you always remain, you don't disappear with the thoughts and perceptions and sensations. How come?

 

Further....

 

All of these experiences occur within something. This something is the constant that underlies all experience. It  is the one thing that never changes and the only thing that is essential to you having these experiences. This is called knowing. All human experience comes and goes intermittently in knowing. My suggestion is it's more intelligent to identify with the one thing that is essential to us, within which all other experience appears, rather than the intermittent movie we experience and watch during the day?

 

What else do we know for sure?

 

If I asked any of you, do you exist. Without hesitation everyone checking in with their experience would immediately say yes of course. So we know also that we do exist, or rather there is a quality called being.

 

Therefore the investigation leads to reduction of a human, to be "knowing being" that is how I would describe a human.

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Question 2. Why does David Icke and others say we are really Gods?

 

Because all experience is made up of, exists within, and is dependent on knowing ( see above) . Knowing has no limits. It is what humans may call "God like"

 

Knowing is our primary and only essential "experience" we have. It is what we are. 

 

I am knowing being is synonymous in religious language as I am.God.

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Our death is our wedding with eternity.

What is the secret? “God is One.”

The sunlight splits when entering the windows of the house.

This multiplicity exists in the cluster of grapes;

It is not in the juice made from the grapes.

For he who is living in the Light of God,

The death of the carnal soul is a blessing.

Regarding him, say neither bad nor good,

For he is gone beyond the good and the bad.

Fix your eyes on God and do not talk about what is invisible,

So that he may place another look in your eyes.

It is in the vision of the physical eyes

That no invisible or secret thing exists.

But when the eye is turned toward the Light of God

What thing could remain hidden under such a Light?

Although all lights emanate from the Divine Light

Don’t call all these lights “the Light of God”;

It is the eternal light which is the Light of God,

The ephemeral light is an attribute of the body and the flesh.

…Oh God who gives the grace of vision!

The bird of vision is flying towards You with the wings of desire.

 

(Mystic Odes 833) Rumi

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On 8/9/2024 at 8:51 AM, Mr H said:

So Iistented to Keir Starmer bumble on about what a women is.

 

Thought maybe a discussion about what is an human? Have you thought about it?

 

I think if we ask public they will probably point to a body. Now before I speak any spiritual gobbledegook. Right of the bat we have a problem just from a logic/ scientific standpoint. 

 

The separation by the body, or the skin boundary is problematic. Where does one end and the other begin? For my body is connected to the air which it needs to live to breath, it's connected to the ground which is necessary for me to eat. From this vantage point the body is a lot larger than one may think! A new born baby has no idea of separation, it is taught so by culture, largely so it can learn how to get food.

 

But let's break it down further. And let's look at our experience of being a human. Because if we don't go with experience the alternative is to run with beliefs, defined as "conviction of the truth of a proposition or alleged fact without knowledge".

 

So what experiences do humans have?

 

Thoughts, feelings, perceptions and sensations.

 

If you examine all human experience, it is intermittent. Thoughts come and go. Perceptions and sensations of the body, come and go. But you always remain, you don't disappear with the thoughts and perceptions and sensations. How come?

 

Further....

 

All of these experiences occur within something. This something is the constant that underlies all experience. It  is the one thing that never changes and the only thing that is essential to you having these experiences. This is called knowing. All human experience comes and goes intermittently in knowing. My suggestion is it's more intelligent to identify with the one thing that is essential to us, within which all other experience appears, rather than the intermittent movie we experience and watch during the day?

 

What else do we know for sure?

 

If I asked any of you, do you exist. Without hesitation everyone checking in with their experience would immediately say yes of course. So we know also that we do exist, or rather there is a quality called being.

 

Therefore the investigation leads to reduction of a human, to be "knowing being" that is how I would describe a human.

 

 

We were created for meat and entertainment.

 

A resource for a species who left Earth hundreds of years ago.

 

https://stolenhistory.net/threads/evidence-humans-were-created-and-traded-as-slaves-food-entertainment-and-material-resources-ihasfemr.5379/

 

 

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1 hour ago, 78ast78dgyad said:

 

 

We were created for meat and entertainment.

 

A resource for a species who left Earth hundreds of years ago.

 

https://stolenhistory.net/threads/evidence-humans-were-created-and-traded-as-slaves-food-entertainment-and-material-resources-ihasfemr.5379/

 

 

You reminded me of one of my favorite quotes

 

Man suffers only because he takes seriously what the gods made for fun. Alan Watts

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