Observations Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 BBC news 23/01/25 “… Had he been able to he would have killed every child, all 26 of them, as well as any adults who got in his way” “Having arrested Rudakubana, it wasn’t long before the police went to his house. Inside they found chaos, electrical devices full of images of genocide, war, and there was more in the bedroom. Under the bed a machete and bow and arrow, and then a find which brought the search to a sudden stop. Ricin the deadly poison, the equipment to make it.” “Despite all that because the police say there’s no evidence that Rudakubana subscribe to a particular ideology the stabbing hasn’t been declared a terrorist incident, but it’s now emerged he HAD previously been referred to the government’s counterterrorism prevent program 3 times because of material he’d viewed online.” Judge; “The prosecution have made it clear that these proceedings were not acts of terrorism with the terrorism legislation because there is no evidence that his purpose was to advance political religious racial or radical causes I must accept that conclusion however in my judgment his culpability for this extreme level of violence is equivalent in its seriousness to terrorist murders whatever his purpose.” “The Taylor swift dance class was billed online but it is not known what his reason was for targeting it particularly. Q: “Do you know anything about why he chose THAT event?” Detective inspector Jason Pye Senior investigating officer Merseyside police; A: “ My hypothesis all the way through this was that obviously he had seen it advertised somewhere. I don’t know why he picked it, and that’s one of the questions the families desperately want answering. Why? Why Hart space? Why an event where it was just young ladies, just young girls? Was it because of their vulnerability? That piece of the evidence I have not been able to find throughout this investigation.” “Crowds lined the street outside court waiting for Rudakubana to be driven away…” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazthehobo Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 27 minutes ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said: This is a very good point. There is also testimony stating he ran after and pulled back inside a girl who ran out of the building. So he had time to run up/down a staircase and bring a girl up/down that staircase back into the room only to carry on stabbing her and the others? And people just stood around waiting for him to come back inside? And no one thought to crack him over the head with something or at least try to stop him? It’s definitely weird How many adults were in the building? Do we know? I know when I drop my daughter off to gymnastics parents are not allowed to watch (apart from when there is an event) and with that class I would say there are about 50 kids with 4 young girl instructors (I say young girl but probably late teens/early twenties) and one pensioner who works on reception. Some parents loiter in the car park but most disappear for that time. That being said, this class has magnetic doors which can only be opened by the pensioner. But I do wonder how many adults were there or how many instructors would have been able to do anything about it. Also, with the gymnastics scenario, the instructors wouldn’t have mobile phones on them. I dunno/ maybe that was the reason he chose to go to that event rather than a male dominated one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, DannyUK said: Yes I was being tongue in cheek mate. What are the chances of such taking place right next to an Israeli fighting school? You know, the nation that all geopolitical terrorism these days seem to be aimed around protecting Israeli/Zionism agendas that are central to Globalisation… Of course, Trump supporters are not likely to enjoy this being pointed out for obvious reasons. The politics about this “is it terrorism isn’t it a terrorist attack” Is it a immigrant or isn’t it because if it is an immigrant then it’s terrorism debate… Now that is political incorrect because it is offensive to immigrants. Yet, Starmer has no problem comparing this guy to “conspiracy theorists”, nationalists, far right, loners, anyone living at home with their parents and such… People of this nation more of less through and through who see their rights, national values and culture overturned by tyrants and are being shutdown. That’s ok. It’s as if all conspiracy theorist held the knife and you’re telling me you don’t believe this has psychological implications and intent? You don’t believe this is being used for political theatre and staging? Are you asleep. Where is your head man? If they have their way conspiracy theorists will be treated as early signs of terrorism and radicalisation. That is the mentality being sold right now. Conspiracy Theory = Gateway Drug to Terrorism - “JUST SAY NO” Ok so no one was filming their children at dance class and managed to capture this lunatic come in and do what he did? He had time and the energy to stab a defenceless kid 122 times whilst the other two kids just stood around waiting for similar treatment? Their parents didn’t get them away and run away with the people who tried to help and apparently run away? People were ready on mass to demonstrate and had been taken to Southport to protest and all just seemed to happen seamlessly. Again, so politics to install technocratic technology on public transport like facial recognition which was very “swiftly” mentioned and being justified because of this event. It couldn’t be planned more perfectly. Starmer was ready to deliver his condescending scripts to attack his opposition through this event, to attack and try to undermine conspiracy theorists as if they’re one in the same as terrorists and you don’t believe this is a PSYOP? Are you aware where you are? However did you find this place? I believe you must have taken a wrong turn somewhere… I haven’t even got started on internet censorship. Which is ironic as more and more technology is being introduced to invade the most finer aspects of our lives and privacy, until it’s in the body and is being spread everywhere and then censored for our “safety”. In case we may think for ourselves and come to a different conclusion. What a joke it really is. These events are used to justify and implement such political agendas that would otherwise meet mass resistance. The trauma is exploited and that should tell you all you need to know… If you don’t believe this is a PSYOP already then I can’t help you. This is being used to shut down legitimate debate so people will go with the flow of the mainstream consensus through fear of being associated as a “Far Right Thug” for having a different point of view than the current politically correct views. Like Icke himself states “we have out sheeped the sheep” people police themselves because of what others may think of them if they hold different views due to this type of political bullying and PSYOPs engaging and engineering our consent so we will allow and justify what the political order of the day is. This fits such a model like a glove and it stinks to high heaven as I have stated. This couldn’t be achieved if it wasn’t because of the trauma of such events as these. Now I hope you understand. You don’t have to agree but is easy to see such logic. If it isn’t it’s because you want to deny it being true. I suggest it is true. It is the only thing that makes sense… Who else gains from stabbing defenceless children over and over again? Why bother in the first instance… Why so much focus and attention on it immediately? It could just as easily be ignored. But this was designed for political rhetoric otherwise it could just as easily have gone as unnoticed. From the start this situation was heated and used as a political tool. PSYOP. Water that is too pure has no fish You’re right, not everything is a PSYOP. But this surely is. I don't disagree that the event will be used by Politicians for their own advantage, that, sadly is human nature. I disagree this is a fake event. Highly improbable. You could probably find out and ask to see the body or DNA or something if you really do doubt this? Or interview the neighbors of the dead girls? Nothing is impossible. Maybe the sun doesn't really exist. But I give it almost zero sum probability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyUK Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 54 minutes ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said: This is a very good point. There is also testimony stating he ran after and pulled back inside a girl who ran out of the building. So he had time to run up/down a staircase and bring a girl up/down that staircase back into the room only to carry on stabbing her and the others? And people just stood around waiting for him to come back inside? And no one thought to crack him over the head with something or at least try to stop him? It’s definitely weird It is mate. It does seem to me that this psychological framing of “terrorism” is squarely aimed at “conspiracy theorists”. That what is being designed, that a way of potentially dealing with such terror prevention is designed to attack conspiracy theorists and aimed at shutting them down, speculating that they maybe “terrorists”. To give an example, I can’t tell you how many times and different school shootings and such that I have researched usually many of which seem to be like false flag events to ban firearms and such restrictions which many of us here should be familiar with. This means people who do this are potentially being speculated to be terrorists. Likewise the Rwanda Genocide. There’s absolutely no shock that someone who is from there particularly, wanting to research the likes of the Rwanda Genocide. But wanting to understand such could potentially get you branded as a terrorist it seems. No one who research’s such should be considered nuts potentially wanting to carry out such violence themselves. If this was the case and TPTB are successful, any conspiracy theorist who research false flag events and come to a different opinion or conclusion to the official narrative, could be considered a potential terrorist that needs to be managed by big brother. The psychological of this is clearly trying to justify this mentality… It would attack no one more-so than conspiracy theorists to anyone who can see what’s going on here and being put forward. This is obviously very dangerous ground for anyone who can see and points out government corruption, which is driving all of this. Potentially shutting down anyone who opposes official narratives. This can be nothing other than tyranny. UK teenager jailed for minimum of 52 years for 'harrowing' Southport girls' murders https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-teenager-interrupts-sentencing-murders-three-girls-southport-2025-01-23/ As the idea moving forward will be… How can we stop this from happening again, before it happens? If “radicalisation” can be associated here of an individual becoming a potential terrorist be that of the above, any “conspiracy theorists” could be accused of potentially becoming or being a terrorism if their scope of what is and what isn’t a terrorist be shifted as it looks this is being put in question due to this. Press enter on tyranny and the police state? Edited January 24 by DannyUK 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 49 minutes ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said: This is a very good point. There is also testimony stating he ran after and pulled back inside a girl who ran out of the building. So he had time to run up/down a staircase and bring a girl up/down that staircase back into the room only to carry on stabbing her and the others? And people just stood around waiting for him to come back inside? And no one thought to crack him over the head with something or at least try to stop him? It’s definitely weird Two men did try and stop him. One of the women took stabs to protect the girls... It's not as if no one tried Also pretty easy to comment what you would do writing from an armchair, I'm sure it'd be quite different if you were actually there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 16 hours ago, Occulus5 said: What do you make of this video?. I posted this a few months back but don't think anyone really commented on it. Perfect Timing, a Critical look at the Southport Event. I don't know if the event was real or fake based on the evidence presented, can't make an opinion on that. What I do think though is that it did appear that the authorities were expecting an event of such kind because their response seemed like it was pre planned. The way the media released information about the deaths almost immediately was suspicious. The timing of the event, just as Starmer had got in and conveniently he used it as a way to demonise his "far right is bad" political opponents, which he is still using to this day. The way Starmer handled the event and exploited it to go after "far right is bad" reminded me a lot of the way democrats used January 6th to demonise their political opponents immediately after taking office. They then exploited that for several years to silence their political opposition and to criminalise any complaints about their extreme politics and policies. So it seems more likely that it did occur but it was planned by the authorities, so they could go after the "far right bad". If it was real and genuine then I suspect it was a retaliation towards Israel's murder of children in Gaza and the UK government's support of it. It was only then too convenient for the labour government to exploit it for their own political end game of mass immigration and ethnic replacement. Edited January 24 by SimonTV 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastOneLeftInTheCounty Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 To be fair it is quite convenient that whenever something like this happens, or is allowed to happen, the answer from government is to bring in new laws/restrictions that further erode our liberties, in this case tighter internet ID restrictions, and a doubling down against conspiracy theorists and the general public with a ‘far right’ bent. Im sure there will be more because there’s always a need for new laws 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramzo Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Mr H said: Two men did try and stop him. One of the women took stabs to protect the girls... It's not as if no one tried Also pretty easy to comment what you would do writing from an armchair, I'm sure it'd be quite different if you were actually there. He's be dead and the children would still be alive if I was there. If any of this really happened at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastOneLeftInTheCounty Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Mr H said: Two men did try and stop him. One of the women took stabs to protect the girls... It's not as if no one tried Also pretty easy to comment what you would do writing from an armchair, I'm sure it'd be quite different if you were actually there. Yes so we’re told. I don’t own an armchair but I understand what you’re saying. So the low security was a factor why no one tried to beat his head in. To do that much damage must have taken a while, plus he was in and out of the building. Maybe everyone was frozen in fear. Something is still a little off…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramzo Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Another option is these attackers are mind controlled drones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidlittle Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 13 hours ago, Ramzo said: Does everyone here really think all these killings are organic, or even real? Has anyone entertained the idea this might have all been engineered, staged, and/or even hoaxed? You don't see much discussion like this on these forums anymore. It's about the worst it's been in my 22/23 years on official and unofficial icke forums. Sandy Hook, Boston just a distant memory . Everything happens must be real or you're really insensitive lol. Same old forum stalwarts policing the discussion. But yeah, we're now in an age where zero footage can be trusted. I remember being in awe just a few years ago at the 'this person doesn't exist' website or something like that, instant face generation. It blew my mind but look at it now.. the ai is getting insane. I would imagine a whole alternative 'digital' population is being or has been created. Each person backstopped, given a life experience, hopes, dreams, ideologies, friends and relatives, from all walks of life, from shop workers to terrorists. Every single one with a unique story, photos and videos to support an existence that is completely false. No good could come out of that though right ? Just nefarious, deceptive, opportunistic. Oh and yeah , the perp in this alledged incident looks just a teeny weeny bit too 'cartoony' evil for my liking.. but what do I know ? It's just an opinion right ? Edited: Haha, right on cue ..' disrespectful' Ears must have been on fire. Yeah, best to play it safe, back the 'acceptable' conspiracy - The Zionist Labour Government have been protecting Muslims because they always do. After all, Muslims control the Government, Media, Hollywood, the fractional reserve banking System and are responsible for multiculturalism and the great replacement. Yeah! Free Tommy!! Edited January 24 by Sidlittle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr H Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 22 minutes ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said: Yes so we’re told. I don’t own an armchair but I understand what you’re saying. So the low security was a factor why no one tried to beat his head in. To do that much damage must have taken a while, plus he was in and out of the building. Maybe everyone was frozen in fear. Something is still a little off…. My understanding is that the only adults there were a few female teachers who organized it. They were attacked and tried to shield the children. I wouldn't expect them to take on almost a fully grown man wielding a knife, caught by surprise - to go and smash his head in. Two men did try and "smash his head in" one got stabbed and the other he ran away from. This thing happened in minutes..... I'm all for uncovering Psy ops if there is some evidence. But making accusations with no credible evidence is a little disrespectful to the deceased imho. Anyways will leave it there. Too distasteful for me personally. Edited January 24 by Mr H 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramzo Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 37 minutes ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said: plus he was in and out of the building 122x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramzo Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 18 minutes ago, Mr H said: This thing happened in minutes..... 122x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said: Yes so we’re told. I don’t own an armchair but I understand what you’re saying. So the low security was a factor why no one tried to beat his head in. To do that much damage must have taken a while, plus he was in and out of the building. Maybe everyone was frozen in fear. Something is still a little off…. Over 200 stabs in 5 minutes based on the official numbers. Seems excessive to me even for a psycho. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 2 hours ago, Ramzo said: Another option is these attackers are mind controlled drones. Yea or blackmail or some kind of patsy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 Pre-trial, only image of suspect allowed are of smiling schoolboy. Post-trial, or once at trial, the chosen image is now a very demonic pose. Deliberate, of course. Attacker gets 52 years, multiple sentences, and yet the immediate response from families is it's too lenient. Leading to calls to bring back death penalty via petitions. All the way, from the event itself to now, is classic PRS. Creating new identities for the dead children would be easy. I don't think that's a reason to say it couldn't be faked. Likelihood is something happened, was allowed to happen, the guy was trigged to do it, and the desired outcome is what we've seen unfold ever since. Loads of "far right" rhetoric, emotional manipulation, trauma-inducing coverage and NLP, and now calls to bring back the death penalty. Meanwhile, kids are getting stabbed to death every single day in this country now. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonTV Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 I think it is just another example of the government, particularly the far left government, covering up the crimes of migrants in the name of their master plan of mass immigration and ethnic replacement. It goes to show that they don't care how many lives are lost or girls raped, so long as it does not upset their multicultural experiment. Grooming gangs, non terror terrorist attacks, non hate crime mental health racial stabbings the list goes on and on. It has got to the point now where they have arrested people for simply complaining about crime in the context of mass immigration. Surely they should release the political prisoners who spoke about this incident and have turned out to be correct about it. Despite the government still clinging to its far right bad mantra. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cemeterycrow Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said: Pre-trial, only image of suspect allowed are of smiling schoolboy. Post-trial, or once at trial, the chosen image is now a very demonic pose. Deliberate, of course. Attacker gets 52 years, multiple sentences, and yet the immediate response from families is it's too lenient. Leading to calls to bring back death penalty via petitions. All the way, from the event itself to now, is classic PRS. Creating new identities for the dead children would be easy. I don't think that's a reason to say it couldn't be faked. Likelihood is something happened, was allowed to happen, the guy was trigged to do it, and the desired outcome is what we've seen unfold ever since. Loads of "far right" rhetoric, emotional manipulation, trauma-inducing coverage and NLP, and now calls to bring back the death penalty. Meanwhile, kids are getting stabbed to death every single day in this country now. The doctor who clip is bizarre as well. Sure, it may be just a coincidence but it's strange how often this happens. Even recently with the Trump shooter being in the Blackrock video. Edited January 24 by cemeterycrow add video 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramzo Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 40 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said: Pre-trial, only image of suspect allowed are of smiling schoolboy. Post-trial, or once at trial, the chosen image is now a very demonic pose. Deliberate, of course. Attacker gets 52 years, multiple sentences, and yet the immediate response from families is it's too lenient. Leading to calls to bring back death penalty via petitions. All the way, from the event itself to now, is classic PRS. Creating new identities for the dead children would be easy. I don't think that's a reason to say it couldn't be faked. Likelihood is something happened, was allowed to happen, the guy was trigged to do it, and the desired outcome is what we've seen unfold ever since. Loads of "far right" rhetoric, emotional manipulation, trauma-inducing coverage and NLP, and now calls to bring back the death penalty. Meanwhile, kids are getting stabbed to death every single day in this country now. They can make AI generated persons with social media accounts, careers, photos/videos from child birth up to today. With dozens of friends, who all have dozens of friends, and families, coworkers. All generated on the fly. Any of these autogenerated AI personages can give a life eyewitness/testimony account on TV. AI scans all social media accounts and makes psychological profiles of the entire worlds population. They have online personalized programs to deradicalize/radicalize people. They have a worldwide army of MK-ULTRA psychokillers, assassins, hitman, arsonists, hooligans, and protestors. They have the eyewitnesses. Cleaning crews. And masonic policemen and civil servants to cover it up. And what they don't have they generate with AI. You can literally not believe your own eyes anymore. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramzo Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 27 minutes ago, cemeterycrow said: The doctor who clip is bizarre as well. Sure, it may be just a coincidence but it's strange how often this happens. Even recently with the Trump shooter being in the Blackrock video. They've all been recruited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyUK Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 (edited) The Simpsons - Sideshow Bob Kills Bart in 1993 (Season 35 Episode 5) “The Eagle Has Landed - The Penny Drops?” “Operation Sideshow” - A Sideshow is What Takes Place at a Circus - “A Media Circus…” - To “Dinner Out”… Quote Spy Game Official Trailer #1 Brad Pitt Movie 2001) HD Video - Undermine Israel Security to release where Rwanda secured their weaponry Opinion - There is possibly far more about the Southport stabber than meets the eye https://rumble.com/v5r1ftn-opinion-there-is-possibly-far-more-about-the-southport-stabber-than-meets-t.html Aka Press Enter on Censorship… Internet regulator speaks out over Sydney video viewed by Southport killer that X fought to keep online eSafety commissioner expresses ‘great sadness’ that Axel Rudakubana viewed video before murdering three girls in the UK, noting ‘clear link’ between online material and real-world violence https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2025/jan/24/esafety-australia-statement-sydney-attack-video-viewed-by-southport-killer-ntwnfb We are talking about turning anyone who can use the internet and use such materials and the like to get their heads around whats going on, or to protest, or use them show outrage against the government and their agendas as potentially being considered “terrorists”. The context is being removed because this is all about politics and politically driven from start to finish! Many people through their denial will aid in supporting it due to psychological trickery of “something must be done”. They then press enter on agenda driven goals… It’s always the same and this scenario is too perfect, too many questions and stinks of orchestration. This is the same manual freely accessible on the net provided to the US Military - See video discussion above Military Studies in the Jihad Against the Tyrants: The Al-Qaeda Training Manual https://www.airuniversity.af.edu/Portals/10/CSDS/Books/alqaedatrainingmanual2.pdf Quote GHOSTS IN THE MACHINE Quote GHOSTS IN THE MACHINE 2 Keir Starmer's congratulatory message to the Israeli leader for the release of hostages is deeply troubling. In the face of thousands of children killed, he praises the Israeli leader as a "man of peace" and a "great leader," calling him a friend. This is a stark reminder of the disconnect between the rhetoric of peace and the ongoing violence and suffering in Palestine. Condemning violence against children should be universal, yet Starmer’s stance suggests a troubling disregard for the lives lost and the ongoing injustice. “Loosey Goosey” "Probably one of the most disliked people in the UK 'Keir Starmer" #KeirStarmer #Israel #Palestine #ManOfPeace #HostagesRelease #HumanRights #JusticeForPalestine #CondemnInjustice #ChildrenOfWar #EndTheViolence #Bbcnews #SkyNews #SkyNewsArabia #skynewsaustralia #CNN #USNews #uknews #ukpolitics #fyp2025 #AlJazeeraEnglish #GBN #BFMTV #FridayFeeling Moonchild - Technocracy - Transhumanism The Pretty Things Are Going to Hell The Eagle exchanged for “the Dove of Peace” Julian Assange walks free after pleading guilty to US espionage charge in Saipan court - an extraordinary legal fight spanning more than a decade Edited January 24 by DannyUK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 21 hours ago, SimonTV said: Man calls outs Starmer and media https://files.catbox.moe/j2ttkt.mp4 100%correct. Now what do we have to do to get the bastard out of No. 10 and replaced with someone with true wholesome principles? That's the question that I wish I knew the answer to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 5 hours ago, Mr H said: I don't disagree that the event will be used by Politicians for their own advantage, that, sadly is human nature. I disagree this is a fake event. Highly improbable. You could probably find out and ask to see the body or DNA or something if you really do doubt this? Or interview the neighbors of the dead girls? Nothing is impossible. Maybe the sun doesn't really exist. But I give it almost zero sum probability. A customer of the company I work for had a young granddaughter at the event. She apparently managed to escape. He still has nightmares about it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 4 hours ago, Ramzo said: Another option is these attackers are mind controlled drones. It's plausible to me, hypothetically speaking, that a butcher of little girls could hypothetically be a Manchurian Candidate himself, willingly sacrificed by his own parents in exchange for some reward. This particular murderer's parents have been rehoused in a secret location at our expense for their protection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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