Southport - Seven young girls (children) stabbed by teenager - subsequent protests and riots across UK

[Mr H]

1 minute ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

Really? Quelle surprise! Sir Lindsay Hoyle I think his name is. If memory serves, he was pushing proposals to rename all kinds of public buildings after Princess Diana after she carked it.

That's him yes. It's a strange situation. One of the biggest stories in the country and not allowed to mention it in parliament.....

 

https://conservativepost.co.uk/locked-down-in-the-commons-labours-gag-order-over-southport-stifles-the-peoples-voice/

 

Sir Lindsay Hoyle, Labour’s Speaker of the House of Commons, has imposed a sweeping gag order on any mention of the Southport tragedy in Parliament.

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

Why? What's the big deal? We know the killer was a Welsh/Rwandan and we know what he did. He'll get a fair trial whether the matter is debated in the Commons or not. What is it that we cannot be allowed to know?

[Freaky Dragonfly]

Southport stabbings: Who trained Axel Rudakubana? Could he have learnt from his father?

https://expose-news.com/2024/11/30/who-trained-axel-rudakubana/

 

 

[Fluke]

On 11/23/2024 at 8:40 PM, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

Why? What's the big deal? We know the killer was a Welsh/Rwandan and we know what he did. He'll get a fair trial whether the matter is debated in the Commons or not. What is it that we cannot be allowed to know?

Agreed. Also who's Axel?  

[MissSensible]

And now we have Musk poking this fire on behalf of Israel, as they want to start another race war in this country, as they did in the summer. Their useful puppet Tommy is currently unavailable, so in steps Musk. 

[Fluke]

7 hours ago, MissSensible said:

And now we have Musk poking this fire on behalf of Israel, as they want to start another race war in this country, as they did in the summer. Their useful puppet Tommy is currently unavailable, so in steps Musk. 

Absolute tosh that is. 

[Teardropexplodes]

On 1/4/2025 at 11:02 AM, MissSensible said:

And now we have Musk poking this fire on behalf of Israel, as they want to start another race war in this country, as they did in the summer. Their useful puppet Tommy is currently unavailable, so in steps Musk. 

Indeed. This definitely feels like a psyop to wind up tensions further. Same with the grooming gangs. We know the authorities let it happen and then allowed us to talk about it now by blowing it up in the mainstream media. Nick Griffin of the BNP exposed it 25 years ago, but if he had got the story out back then there would not have been the huge amount of division caused, which is obviously what the uniparty wants. Everyone's liberal zionist hero Tommy Robinson came along years later and attacked Griffin for being a nasty racist antisemite while stealing all his research. Robinson was then given huge media coverage, gaining him a massive cult following. Compare this with the blanket silence given to Griffin over 2 decades ago. This is all part of the same Operation Gladio-style "strategy of tension". We used to talk about it all the time on the old icke forums. People don't think as subtly these days and that's why we're screwed.

[Campion]

24 minutes ago, Teardropexplodes said:

People don't think as subtly these days and that's why we're screwed.

  

Indeed, just a bit of national self-interest and group solidarity like most other tribes have would go a long way. Instead we allow the ptb to divide us so much that most of the anti-white policing is done by other whites on their own people and we have to use anonymous forums to even talk about it. 

[Campion]

41 minutes ago, Teardropexplodes said:

Robinson was then given huge media coverage, gaining him a massive cult following. Compare this with the blanket silence given to Griffin over 2 decades ago. This is all part of the same Operation Gladio-style "strategy of tension". We used to talk about it all the time on the old icke forums.

  

I agree it does look like a deliberate plan to promote Tommy Robinson and ignore the other British nationalists like Nick Griffin and Mark Collett. Divide & rule. 

[NeoScota]

1 hour ago, Campion said:

  

I agree it does look like a deliberate plan to promote Tommy Robinson and ignore the other British nationalists like Nick Griffin and Mark Collett. Divide & rule. 

Nick Griffin was .....hence why he had to go. 

Enter thuggish Tommy, who is irish and is said to be working for the eye argh ay that secretly is in favour of the mass immigration to attack the English. 

Whether thats true or not, I don't trust him.

[Mr H]

18 hours ago, Campion said:

  

I agree it does look like a deliberate plan to promote Tommy Robinson and ignore the other British nationalists like Nick Griffin and Mark Collett. Divide & rule. 

My observation. Folks in conspiracy movement assume EVERYTHING is fake, planned and controlled. I think this is another iteration of wanting a god or father figure who is in control of everything - at the subconscious level - as it brings comfort to the mind.

 

Personally I think things are more chaotic, random and opportunistic and don't but into the idea of one man controlling all world events.

 

I think there's more rational reasons why Tommy Robinson is popular and Nick Griffin wasn't.

 

Firstly Tommy is extremely charismatic and likeable. Nick not so. Secondly Tommy Robinson was the only major public figure talking about grooming gangs when no.one else would. The public relate to that because they want answers too and Tommy was the only one giving it to them and at a cost of jail time. Nick wasn't at the forefront of a major national cause nor went to jail for such a cause. Thirdly, social media wasn't much of a thing in Nick's day, so it was harder to.be popular.

 

So I just think there are everyday explanations to be considered before assuming everything is controlled.

Edited January 6 by Mr H

[Campion]

2 hours ago, Mr H said:

My observation. Folks in conspiracy movement assume EVERYTHING is fake, planned and controlled. I think this is another iteration of wanting a god or father figure who is in control of everything - at the subconscious level - as it brings comfort to the mind.

 

Personally I think things are more chaotic, random and opportunistic and don't but into the idea of one man controlling all world events.

 

I think there's more rational reasons why Tommy Robinson is popular and Nick Griffin wasn't.

 

Firstly Tommy is extremely charismatic and likeable. Nick not so. Secondly Tommy Robinson was the only major public figure talking about grooming gangs when no.one else would. The public relate to that because they want answers too and Tommy was the only one giving it to them and at a cost of jail time. Nick wasn't at the forefront of a major national cause nor went to jail for such a cause. Thirdly, social media wasn't much of a thing in Nick's day, so it was harder to.be popular.

 

So I just think there are everyday explanations to be considered before assuming everything is controlled.

 

There are the everyday explanations as you call them, Nick Griffin was popular in his day enough to get elected to the European Parliament and get invited to BBC Question Time but now he's left party politics and is involved in lower profile things like the Templars. But when I look at why someone like Tommy Robinson is getting popular now I can see how people like Elon Musk are promoting him, and he was even mentioned by Keir Starmer in his speech today.  Tommy still has his social media accounts like Twitter while Nick and Mark are either banned or shadow banned. So although the masses do want saviours as you say, as well as devils to hate, the elite are busy manipulating who those saviours and devils are. 

[Mr H]

4 minutes ago, Campion said:

 

There are the everyday explanations as you call them, Nick Griffin was popular in his day enough to get elected to the European Parliament and get invited to BBC Question Time but now he's left party politics and is involved in lower profile things like the Templars. But when I look at why someone like Tommy Robinson is getting popular now I can see how people like Elon Musk are promoting him, and he was even mentioned by Keir Starmer in his speech today.  Tommy still has his social media accounts like Twitter while Nick and Mark are either banned or shadow banned. So although the masses do want saviours as you say, as well as devils to hate, the elite are busy manipulating who those saviours and devils are. 

I think there are a tonne of folks benefitting from Tommy Robinson charecter - if you make a YT video you will increase your viewership if you mention him. If the news mentions him they will get more views. Others gain popularity by association with Tommy Robinson, and some folks just don't like how he's been treated - going to hard jail in solitary confinement for a civil case. A mix of opportunism, self promotion and others looking for justice. I don't think we need to jump straight to a conclusion he is somehow manufactured, completely fake and controlled. Especially considering his consistency over the years from quite a young age and multiple times putting himself literally on the chopping block.

 

If I look at Marxist tactics how to take over a culture one is to sow distrust and chaos. The natural opponent to communism is right wing. And I've never seen such a gp divided and untrusting of each other.

[Sidlittle]

2 hours ago, Mr H said:

My observation. Folks in conspiracy movement assume EVERYTHING is fake, planned and controlled. I think this is another iteration of wanting a god or father figure who is in control of everything - at the subconscious level - as it brings comfort to the mind.

 

Personally I think things are more chaotic, random and opportunistic and don't but into the idea of one man controlling all world events.

 

I think there's more rational reasons why Tommy Robinson is popular and Nick Griffin wasn't.

 

Firstly Tommy is extremely charismatic and likeable. Nick not so. Secondly Tommy Robinson was the only major public figure talking about grooming gangs when no.one else would. The public relate to that because they want answers too and Tommy was the only one giving it to them and at a cost of jail time. Nick wasn't at the forefront of a major national cause nor went to jail for such a cause. Thirdly, social media wasn't much of a thing in Nick's day, so it was harder to.be popular.

 

So I just think there are everyday explanations to be considered before assuming everything is controlled.

That first paragraph sounds like the words of one of those establishment psychologists they always drag on to dreadful BBC conspiracy ‘debunking’ documentaries.. “oooh poor little peeps need a sense of comfort which is why they hold these beliefs “  Way to go.. 

Tommy Robinson is a fcking obvious zio shill. I can’t think of anything more transparent. 
Who would even truly know if Tommy is locked away anyway ?
 

Edited January 6 by Sidlittle

[cemeterycrow]

13 minutes ago, Campion said:

 

There are the everyday explanations as you call them, Nick Griffin was popular in his day enough to get elected to the European Parliament and get invited to BBC Question Time but now he's left party politics and is involved in lower profile things like the Templars. But when I look at why someone like Tommy Robinson is getting popular now I can see how people like Elon Musk are promoting him, and he was even mentioned by Keir Starmer in his speech today.  Tommy still has his social media accounts like Twitter while Nick and Mark are either banned or shadow banned. So although the masses do want saviours as you say, as well as devils to hate, the elite are busy manipulating who those saviours and devils are. 

 

He's promoted because he's sponsored by the state of Israel 

[Mr H]

@Campion the other point I would make is as far as I'm aware Nick Griffin was talking about race and immigration. This is a more controversial topic than what Tommy Robinson speaks about. Multiculturalism is definitely a project, it was admitted by Starmer in a speech recently. So anyone against the project more likely to be shadow banned.

 

Tommy Robinson doesn't speak about race. He talks about grooming gangs and Islam . Less controversial topic for those implementing the project - less likely to get banned I suspect.

[lobster]

18 minutes ago, Campion said:

 

There are the everyday explanations as you call them, Nick Griffin was popular in his day enough to get elected to the European Parliament and get invited to BBC Question Time but now he's left party politics and is involved in lower profile things like the Templars. But when I look at why someone like Tommy Robinson is getting popular now I can see how people like Elon Musk are promoting him, and he was even mentioned by Keir Starmer in his speech today.  Tommy still has his social media accounts like Twitter while Nick and Mark are either banned or shadow banned. So although the masses do want saviours as you say, as well as devils to hate, the elite are busy manipulating who those saviours and devils are. 

I've got a distinct memory that grith nicking was thrown out of the bnp for embezzling party funds

[lobster]

1 minute ago, cemeterycrow said:

 

He's promoted because he's sponsored by the state of Israel 

To be fair he is Jewish and early edl rallies had Israeli flags everywhere

[Mr H]

54 minutes ago, Sidlittle said:

That first paragraph sounds like the words of one of those establishment psychologists they always drag on to dreadful BBC conspiracy ‘debunking’ documentaries.. “oooh poor little peeps need a sense of comfort which is why they hold these beliefs “  Way to go.. 

Tommy Robinson is a fcking obvious zio shill. I can’t think of anything more transparent. 
Who would even truly know if Tommy is locked away anyway ?
 

Well go to the jail and find out instead of making stuff up from thin air?

 

Edit: and what does a Zionist shill even mean? And what's the obvious evidence?

 

I've seen some loose evidence he may have received funds from Israeli supporters - which I guess would make sense if they have common interest. But so what if true? Are you suggesting his entire life has been fake just so he could later perhaps, maybe, get some Israel funds?

 

If you were working on a project and someone offered you money because they like your work, would you say, no thanks, after bankruptcy? 

 

These accusations are little strange to me and just cause unnecessary divisions. The man was the only public figure highlighting the grooming gang scandal. If whilst unraveling that scandal he got some money from a Jew, does that matter? If you can expose a national grooming gang scandal, and you don't need funding, the stage is yours, go right ahead....

Edited January 6 by Mr H

[Mr H]

23 minutes ago, Sidlittle said:

That first paragraph sounds like the words of one of those establishment psychologists they always drag on to dreadful BBC conspiracy ‘debunking’ documentaries.. “oooh poor little peeps need a sense of comfort which is why they hold these beliefs “  Way to go.. 

 

It's a true assessment.

 

Give me one popular right wing folk who peeps don't accuse of being paid opposition or Zionist shill?

 

Is it likely that EVERY SINGLE ONE is?

 

People get comfort from an idea everything is controlled by someone or a god. Reality is not like this.

[Campion]

1 hour ago, Mr H said:

@Campion the other point I would make is as far as I'm aware Nick Griffin was talking about race and immigration. This is a more controversial topic than what Tommy Robinson speaks about. Multiculturalism is definitely a project, it was admitted by Starmer in a speech recently. So anyone against the project more likely to be shadow banned.

 

Tommy Robinson doesn't speak about race. He talks about grooming gangs and Islam . Less controversial topic for those implementing the project - less likely to get banned I suspect.

  

Yes there is an agenda to ban certain people based on whether they say the right things for the cult's plan.  Getting banned on the mainstream social media puts them into the backwaters and it does appear that society is shaped by what media the masses are fed these days.  If what you're saying about Tommy is right (and I'm not an expert on him) then he's very much cherry picking his targets and not joining the dots. Where does he think all the Muslims have come from, if not other immigrating racial groups than ours, escaping from middle eastern wars created by the ptb here, and invited here by the ptb's Commonwealth (what's left of the British Empire).  

 

Edited January 6 by Campion

[lobster]

17 minutes ago, Campion said:

  

So there is an agenda to ban certain people based on whether they say the right things for the cult's plan?  Getting banned on the mainstream social media puts them into the backwaters and it does appear that society is shaped by what media the masses are fed these days.  If what you're saying about Tommy is right (and I'm not an expert on him) then he's very much cherry picking his targets and not joining the dots. Where does he think all the Muslims have come from, if not other immigrating racial groups than ours, escaping from middle eastern wars created by the ptb here, and invited here by the ptb's Commonwealth (what's left of the British Empire).  

I dont think anyone has accused him of being intellectual,  so I doubt he has thought it though, but as I understand it, his major complaint is about the pervasive nature of Islam and the ptb acceptance of different legal standards being applied.

 

Back in the early days of the EDL, various other ethnic groups from the subcontinent attended and were welcomed in doing so, the media messaging that he was just racist, rather than pro english and pro groups who have assimilated to a greater degree, caused a drop of in that

[pete675]

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/dec/07/tommy-robinson-global-support-brexit-march.

 

Useful account of Stephen Yaxley’s (aka Tommy) links from the pre Gates Guardian. Just follow the money and all will become clearer.

 

The same is true of Konstipated Keir. 

[NeoScota]

4 hours ago, cemeterycrow said:

 

He's promoted because he's sponsored by the state of Israel 

He looks like zelensky there, all rat faced and army green with of course the star of remphan

[NeoScota]

4 hours ago, Mr H said:

It's a true assessment.

 

Give me one popular right wing folk who peeps don't accuse of being paid opposition or Zionist shill?

 

Is it likely that EVERY SINGLE ONE is?

 

People get comfort from an idea everything is controlled by someone or a god. Reality is not like this.

There was a time I saw him interviewed and he started to tear up/cry when discussing his prison time. 

I wondered then if they had got to him.

 

If they had, then he seems to have gotten on board with them very well, perhaps the dark ones really got to his soul as well as the shekels, because he seems ok with his position whilst not naming the crux of the problem aka kal ergi plan et al.