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On 1/9/2025 at 2:45 AM, Captain Bog Rodge said:

The original source of that came from one if DIs videos I saw when it cam about on bitchute

However doing a search for the tile of it "reality-is-an-illusion-david-icke-pays-tribute-to-dr-peter-gariaev-"

It would appear to have been removed or deleted! However others have copied it

 

OUR REALITY IS AN ILLUSION - DAVID ICKE PAYS TRIBUTE TO DR PETER GARIAEV

 

 

Anyway I found the original DI video

 

Reality Is An Illusion - David Icke Pays Tribute To Dr Peter Gariaev

 

 

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On 7/20/2024 at 9:11 PM, Talorgan said:

I once met an American writer   

on Glastonbury Tor / Chalice Hill,earths heart chakra etc,

who claimed to be an immortalist and in one  of his books ," voyage to Avalon" gives a list of immortalists like Enoch ,etc 

But also suggested or suggests( I no idea if he is still here?)- that more would become immortalists this century  and on into age of aquarius,

Interesting idea  ,via gratitude/ love ,heart frequency 

perhaps in a way a shift in frequency could be a form of immortality ? Who knows ?

 

Did you ever read any of this book by any chance? As I have done an internet search of this and many differant books are coming up (mice of the round table and stuff)

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On 7/20/2024 at 9:28 PM, Fluke said:

Think I found the study you were referring to @Talorgan it's interesting because I have been thinking about the role of inflammation and aging.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv2gr3x3xkno

 

Now the field of ageing-research is booming as researchers try to uncover - and manipulate - the molecular processes of ageing.

The team at the MRC Laboratory of Medical Science, Imperial College London and Duke-NUS Medical School in Singapore were investigating a protein called interleukin-11.

Levels of it increase in the human body as we get older, it contributes to higher levels of inflammation, and the researchers say it flips several biological switches that control the pace of ageing.

But they dont mention the drug that they use to combat  interleukin-11 do they!

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2 hours ago, Captain Bog Rodge said:

Did you ever read any of this book by any chance? As I have done an internet search of this and many differant books are coming up (mice of the round table and stuff)

Yes  ,but at the time there was the Harmonic Convergence  thing  going on

1987 and this book kind of was at time of   ideas about Immortalists ideas  such as count St Germain, mount Shasta  ,etc so whole spiritualist, ,new age ideas perhaps .

? Idea of meeting Immortalists beings was interesting to me .

 What I found Very

difficult was I got impression that he was suggesting A Crowley ,OTO,AA,,was spinning cloak and was really opposite to his public image ,but what do I know as have always steered clear of Crowley ,not liking what I've read about Crowley ( although it is  interesting how his Cairo thing seems to influenced counter culture )

But idea of two dragon lines weaving around world intercepting earth centres  like mt Shasta, Glastonbury etc is interesting idea ? 

And whole Immortalists ideas could link in with ultra intelligence beings positive  and negative eg reading Malachi Martin ,John Keel, Jacques Vallee 

or plasma universe fourth and (even with fifth  dimensional consciousness ,if can get through to it perhaps?

I've not read his other books .

 

 

 

 

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19 hours ago, Talorgan said:

Yes  ,but at the time there was the Harmonic Convergence  thing  going on

1987 and this book kind of was at time of   ideas about Immortalists ideas  such as count St Germain, mount Shasta  ,etc so whole spiritualist, ,new age ideas perhaps .

? Idea of meeting Immortalists beings was interesting to me .

 What I found Very

difficult was I got impression that he was suggesting A Crowley ,OTO,AA,,was spinning cloak and was really opposite to his public image ,but what do I know as have always steered clear of Crowley ,not liking what I've read about Crowley ( although it is  interesting how his Cairo thing seems to influenced counter culture )

But idea of two dragon lines weaving around world intercepting earth centres  like mt Shasta, Glastonbury etc is interesting idea ? 

And whole Immortalists ideas could link in with ultra intelligence beings positive  and negative eg reading Malachi Martin ,John Keel, Jacques Vallee 

or plasma universe fourth and (even with fifth  dimensional consciousness ,if can get through to it perhaps?

I've not read his other books .

 

 

 

 

But was there much insight to reverse ageing in his book; I mean did he explain how it worked and how to do it?

 

Also did he talk about the astral dimension?

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7 hours ago, Captain Bog Rodge said:

But was there much insight to reverse ageing in his book; I mean did he explain how it worked and how to do it?

 

Also did he talk about the astral dimension?

 As far as I interpret it  ( which is probably not accurate enough)

Gratitude,/love is the key ,green  Glastonbury is Heart centre of world ,new Jerusalem ,it seems to be Astrological, alchemical  cabalistic  poetic working within Maltwoods Avalon Glastonbury Zodiac and resonating with such Immortalists as St Dunstan ,

Mary

etc and  gives various dates when Immortalists becomes visible teach openly  ,physical immortality accepted  as natural law ,etc eg 2008 the Great Aquarian Celebration , perhaps global Omega point idea ,

Yes the astral as level in kabbalistic tree of life I think 

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4 hours ago, Talorgan said:

 As far as I interpret it  ( which is probably not accurate enough)

Gratitude,/love is the key ,green  Glastonbury is Heart centre of world ,new Jerusalem ,it seems to be Astrological, alchemical  cabalistic  poetic working within Maltwoods Avalon Glastonbury Zodiac and resonating with such Immortalists as St Dunstan ,

Mary

etc and  gives various dates when Immortalists becomes visible teach openly  ,physical immortality accepted  as natural law ,etc eg 2008 the Great Aquarian Celebration , perhaps global Omega point idea ,

Yes the astral as level in kabbalistic tree of life I think 

Eg geomantria .apparently 156 =pure of heart /scarlet woman and Zion

?1560 feet (60*26) is apparently size of original old wattle chapel at  Glastonbury abbey site ?not checked this out yet .

 

 

 

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8 hours ago, Talorgan said:

 As far as I interpret it  ( which is probably not accurate enough)

Gratitude,/love is the key ,green  Glastonbury is Heart centre of world ,new Jerusalem ,it seems to be Astrological, alchemical  cabalistic  poetic working within Maltwoods Avalon Glastonbury Zodiac and resonating with such Immortalists as St Dunstan ,

Mary

etc and  gives various dates when Immortalists becomes visible teach openly  ,physical immortality accepted  as natural law ,etc eg 2008 the Great Aquarian Celebration , perhaps global Omega point idea ,

Yes the astral as level in kabbalistic tree of life I think 

???WTF!!!

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3 hours ago, Captain Bog Rodge said:

???WTF!!!

 Yes I waffled on but in trying to answer to your original question --Robert Coon doesn't go into physical  immortalists techniques in this book 

but  as I understand he does suggest that where  immortalists become physical  immortal then  that place becomes more of a   spiritual centre.

Who knows if this is  so ?

Perhaps his later  book "Path of the Phoenix , Spiritual Road to Physical immortality," gives a clue?

has kind of intrigued me for years ,like to think his optimistic view of spiritual change is true in some way 

 

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On 1/16/2025 at 4:57 PM, Talorgan said:

 Yes I waffled on but in trying to answer to your original question --Robert Coon doesn't go into physical  immortalists techniques in this book 

but  as I understand he does suggest that where  immortalists become physical  immortal then  that place becomes more of a   spiritual centre.

Who knows if this is  so ?

Perhaps his later  book "Path of the Phoenix , Spiritual Road to Physical immortality," gives a clue?

has kind of intrigued me for years ,like to think his optimistic view of spiritual change is true in some way 

 

But has he actully done it, that he has revered ageing or anyone ells for that matter that has read his book or followed his work?

Or is it all hindsight?

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1 hour ago, Captain Bog Rodge said:

But has he actully done it, that he has revered ageing or anyone ells for that matter that has read his book or followed his work?

Or is it all hindsight?

Well I don't know ??????

but the idea is those that have  translated as physical immortalists such as Merlin /Enoch and Taliesin ,Mary ,Jesus ,etc and  I think he suggests that it will become increasingly so  in Aquarian age.

Is it biological age reversal or something else  spiritual 

,what is physical anyway but a frequency range .

Perhaps some can materialise and travel this way then leave again 

I wonder how this would relate to idea of passing Ring pass knot and reaching 5 th dimension beyond astral realms ?

 

Or connecting with  one's Spirit 

 

 

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On 1/18/2025 at 8:37 PM, Talorgan said:

Well I don't know ??????

but the idea is those that have  translated as physical immortalists such as Merlin /Enoch and Taliesin ,Mary ,Jesus ,etc and  I think he suggests that it will become increasingly so  in Aquarian age.

Is it biological age reversal or something else  spiritual 

,what is physical anyway but a frequency range .

Perhaps some can materialise and travel this way then leave again 

I wonder how this would relate to idea of passing Ring pass knot and reaching 5 th dimension beyond astral realms ?

 

Or connecting with  one's Spirit 

 

 

  a spiritual immortality,l

Loving the earth, gratitude and trying  not to kill anything, even  insects

 

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On 1/18/2025 at 2:37 PM, Talorgan said:

Well I don't know ??????

but the idea is those that have  translated as physical immortalists such as Merlin /Enoch and Taliesin ,Mary ,Jesus ,etc and  I think he suggests that it will become increasingly so  in Aquarian age.

Is it biological age reversal or something else  spiritual 

,what is physical anyway but a frequency range .

Perhaps some can materialise and travel this way then leave again 

I wonder how this would relate to idea of passing Ring pass knot and reaching 5 th dimension beyond astral realms ?

 

Or connecting with  one's Spirit 

 

 

Robert Edward Grant has been talking about this on his channel.

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On 1/24/2025 at 12:11 PM, Talorgan said:

  a spiritual immortality,l

Loving the earth, gratitude and trying  not to kill anything, even  insects

 

.

 

IE .

Natural mysticism equal importance given to spirit and matter ,to aim for

The spiritualisation of matter

& materialisation of spirit

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On 1/18/2025 at 8:37 PM, Talorgan said:

Well I don't know ??????

but the idea is those that have  translated as physical immortalists such as Merlin /Enoch and Taliesin ,Mary ,Jesus ,etc and  I think he suggests that it will become increasingly so  in Aquarian age.

Is it biological age reversal or something else  spiritual 

,what is physical anyway but a frequency range .

Perhaps some can materialise and travel this way then leave again 

I wonder how this would relate to idea of passing Ring pass knot and reaching 5 th dimension beyond astral realms ?

 

Or connecting with  one's Spirit 

 

 

The Exempt Adept goes into this somewhat, where these hidden adepts will have to make the choice to live indefinitely to be able to teach, or to die and teach discarnately. Most will teach from the spiritual realms whether alive or from the heavenly realms. 

I have had this thought for some years now, do I stay or do I go? How will I best serve?

Reincarnation seems very wasteful when going through growing up and piercing yet another veil before you get to where you need to be.

I am not afraid of dying but something is yanking my chain about it and coming back to do a "do-over". 

In my journey, I have seemed to learn mainly from the Spirit as opposed to physical teachers. Perhaps this explains why, and how I teach without even knowing it. I have been told that I hold the light when I go to places. Didn't really know how that was but this explains it deeper. 

I do wear a lot of grey clothing and my home is greys, whites and blacks with wood and ambient lighting. These are my comfort zone palates. 😊

 

https://emnrose.wordpress.com/2023/02/01/66-the-grade-of-jupiter-the-hermit/

The design of tarot Key 9, the Hermit, explains the ideas implied by the word in the Yetziratic Text, “will” (RTzVN).

 

In this card a lonely figure stands atop the mountain of Abiegnus, the mountain of initiation, holding a lantern. This is the Hermit who has gone before and is holding the light, guiding those below on their own ascents up the mountain, their own spiritual journeys.

 

There are numerous aspects of symbolism which show that this figure, the Exempt Adept, is now a form of the Christos and is a channel for the divine energies of the supernal sephiroth.

 

This path is the Intelligence of Will, and of Grace, and the Hermit is the Cosmic Will, which, though Grace, calls every person to realization and liberation.

 

His overall shape is Vav, which, as the letter of the Tetragrammaton assigned to Air and Tiphareth, is a symbol for the Christ. The star in the lantern is a hexagram, another symbol for Tiphareth and the Christ. The Hermit’s color is grey, representing the grey of Chokmah.

 

All actual colors have a corresponding musical tone, but white, black, and grey are silent. This means that the Hermit speaks through silence, teaches without words. Instead of teaching with words, the Exempt Adept just acts as a conduit for the Light.

 

It is the responsibility of every adept to train at least one successor. Some train many more. It is advisable to have extra, for there is always some attrition. Some train three, and some seven. Jesus chose twelve.

 

It is said that the leaders of small groups are often, or should be, Minor Adepts, the leaders of schools and orders are often, or should be, Major Adepts. Exempt adepts, on the other hand, are typically withdrawn, meaning hidden away.

 

They are hard to find. They do not hold classes. They seldom appear in public. The old metaphor about climbing to the top of a mountain to find a master is accurate, because to encounter a master face-to-face usually means a journey.

 

When masters do teach, they usually do so on the astral, establishing a location the student can visit. Those students who lack the ability to travel there are not qualified for the instruction.

 

Many students suppose inner plane teachers are discarnate, that is, have moved on beyond the physical. However, often the teacher is incarnate, but chooses to teach on the astral. It takes some degree of clairvoyance to tell an incarnate from a discarnate teacher on the astral.

 

It is easier to reach more people teaching on the astral. The Buddhist literature tells us that a Bodhisattva at a certain level of development (see the 10 Bhumis) can project many subtle bodies in order to teach multiple people simultaneously. It is actually the ability to transcend time that makes this possible, a sort of “relativity of simultaneity,” to borrow a term from relativistic physics. 

 

At this point the whole question of the “Choice of the Bodhisattva” arises. The Exempt Adept no longer has to stay on this plane of reality, that is, in this Universe. Such an adept can choose to stay and be a guide or to move on. Most choose to stay, at least for a while.

 

This is not a choice that can be made until a certain level of attainment has occurred. A tyro does not have the standing to take this vow. However, the vow can be taken prior to realization.

 

The vow to stay and guide others accelerates the process of realization, and therefore many realized beings have made such a promise.

 

Even in light of such a promise, the question then becomes whether to teach as a discarnate master or remain in incarnation.

 

Some choose to remain alive, extending their lives indefinitely. Some choose to return again and again. There is an inefficiency in dying and being reborn over and over, because infancy and childhood have to be experienced, and the spiritual life has to be recapitulated. For this reason many masters choose to either stay dead or stay alive. There is, however, a ministry in living and dying with Grace, and to do so uplifts the Life Wave.

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