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On 9/1/2024 at 4:26 PM, Katsika said:

For me the irony is that he avoids the sun but rightfully says how important the pineal gland is for melatonin production without apparently having a single clue that the pineal gland NEEDS daily sunshine for the circadian rhythm to work properly.  To me he looks like an underdeveloped weed😀

Not sure about the pineal gland haven't really studied it for years now. 

 

But yes the person in this article it's a bit creepy. Definitely unattractive it would be almost peadophillic finding someone like that attractive I would assume. 

 

But that's not the point. If we are to believe the article it proves just how much damage the sun does to us. I'm not saying go bill gates and spray dust in the air, but you get the jist. 

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6 minutes ago, Fluke said:

But that's not the point. If we are to believe the article it proves just how much damage the sun does to us. I'm not saying go bill gates and spray dust in the air, but you get the jist. 

Yes I do.  I think the key thing is safe sun exposure - here's an old article from Dr Mercola

 

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2012/03/26/maximizing-vitamin-d-exposure.aspx

Insufficient sun exposure has become a real problem https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7400257/

 

11 minutes ago, Fluke said:

Not sure about the pineal gland haven't really studied it for years now. 

https://theenlightenmentjourney.com/the-pineal-gland-the-seat-of-the-soul/

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On 7/20/2024 at 8:03 PM, Fluke said:

Something that has always fascinated me even as a young child was the concept of immortality. Perhaps, the musings of a child and something that would be whimsical. However, there are a few people who have at least claimed to have reversed the biological age, and arguably more importantly, at least according to Bryan Johnson, a tech developer, slowed down ageing. 

 

"A man who is on a quest to live forever claims that he has now slowed down the ageing process to the degree that he can celebrate his birthday every 19 months. Bryan Johnson, 46, has spent an estimated $2m a year on his quest after selling his company Braintree Venmo to PayPal for $800m in 2013".

 

Man claims to have slowed ageing to the equivalent of a birthday every 19 months | The Independent

 

 

The Elon Musk style approach is unsettling, and the man himself, at least to me, comes across as a type of AI programmed software. But like Musk, he does seem to be pushing the limits with his company blueprint, spending his own money on this project and relying solely on statistics in this experiment of "don't die". 

 

He also in 2013 received a blood transfusion from his 17-year-old son. There is supposedly compelling evidence that this can help with symptoms such as cognitive decline. 

 

 

 

What is quite interesting to me, but hardly surprising, is the reaction from the public. It's nearly always comments on appearance, "you don't look 33, you look 46" "your skin doesn't look like a 21-year-old's" when really if this man has managed to "reverse ageing" for certain organs and body parts then surely that is a good thing. 

 

Another man on my radar is Andrew Sinclair, a biologist who studies longevity. Lots of articles and interviews from him, particularly focusing on fasting and a plant based diet. He uses the term "adversity memetics". Essentially the theory is that it is good for the body to go through some distress, whether that be cold and hot therapy, hunger, or the strain we go through while exercising. And of course exercise is essential along with sleep. 

 

They try and poison us every day and contaminate the food sources. And they try to program us into ageing. I've noticed people around me ageing, and even people in their twenties seemingly falling to pieces. Is it the jab or something else? I went to the town not long ago and everything went in slow motion. It wasn't a superiority complex as I am not the perfect picture of health myself, but I realized looking around at the overweight people, the smokers, the twitchers, the mentally ill-just how sick our society is. 

 

The state wouldn't want us to live longer, in my view. I've noticed on social media as well a lot of social engineering and targeted ads, things like I don't know a meme for example "I'm 23 now, so staying up past 11pm is like an Olympic sport". Or today "when you are forty, and you stay up past 11 for the ironing" and then a picture of a lady in her late 80s. Obviously supposed to be humorous, but it is almost like people have some sort of weird fetish for old people, and they are programming the masses. I also think this plays into the communist trick trying to get them young. Alan Watt brought this up frequently in his podcasts that they do not want young people speaking to older people because then they could gain wisdom. 

 

I think there is an occult aspect to this as well. Not necessarily evil or dark either, just those who know. For an example, look at a picture of the royals on the notes. This as far as I can see acts like a sort of sigil, all over the UK and the world that picture is seen of the queen, much younger than she was. The portrait on the notes was always her 30 or even 40 years younger than she was. She was rich, of course, which would have a lot to do with it. But thousands of people see that every day. It is not the queen being in her 80s or even 70s is it?

 

X - Files season 11 there is an episode called "Nothing lasts forever". It is about a longevity cult. The lady playing the main role is said to be in her eighties, however she looks mid-thirties max. 

 

It is largely about organ theft, and harvesting. 

 

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For thousands of years, humanity has chased the fountain of youth. Would big pharma kill someone who found a "cure" for ageing? Would the cosmetic industry? There is a lot of money to be made playing on people's vanity, (and I am one of them, I am not above that, I want to look good, but let's face it it's targeted mainly for the females.) Would the pharmaceutical industry be prepared to take out a bunch of scientists who have just cured cancer?

 

I wonder what you guys think. Is this simply against natural law? For instance, if you couldn't "reverse ageing" but at the very least slow it down, would that not be a good thing in the long run for quality of life? I'm for all theories, adrenochrome and all. Speaking of which, Marina Abramović looks good for 77.  

 

I, for one, will be following Bryan Johnson very closely. Philosophically speaking, what living another 50 or 100 years would mean would be mind-boggling to say the least. 

 

Have a good evening, folks. 

 

I am off to bathe in a tub full of asses milk. 

 

David Wilcock mentions the black Sun symbolism was about immortality here

 

https://www.youtube.com/live/Sre1ilPgrSU?si=08VquI_2oRi_LlVY&t=6600

 

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Animals that hibernate usually live longer compared to other species of the same size. Recent studies using epigenetic clocks, which map activity within genes over time, suggest that hibernation slows down ageing in marmots and bats. So hibernation may hold important clues on how to slow down ageing processes.5 Jan 2024

 

https://theconversation.com/the-curious-link-between-animal-hibernation-and-ageing-and-what-humans-could-learn-from-it-218871#:~:text=Animals that hibernate usually live,to slow down ageing processes.

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https://www.aging-us.com/article/204896/text

 

A hallmark of eukaryotic aging is a loss of epigenetic information, a process that can be reversed. We have previously shown that the ectopic induction of the Yamanaka factors OCT4, SOX2, and KLF4 (OSK) in mammals can restore youthful DNA methylation patterns, transcript profiles, and tissue function, without erasing cellular identity, a process that requires active DNA demethylation. To screen for molecules that reverse cellular aging and rejuvenate human cells without altering the genome, we developed high-throughput cell-based assays that distinguish young from old and senescent cells, including transcription-based aging clocks and a real-time nucleocytoplasmic compartmentalization (NCC) assay. We identify six chemical cocktails, which, in less than a week and without compromising cellular identity, restore a youthful genome-wide transcript profile and reverse transcriptomic age. Thus, rejuvenation by age reversal can be achieved, not only by genetic, but also chemical means

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Perhaps more life extensions will be " discovered" increasingly in conjunction 

as more graphene oxide ( toxic)

is inserted into humans  by various methods like vaccines rewiring their brains 

in combination with the cloud technology and the take over of planet earth with human hive mind with a need for longer living batteries as such they are perhaps 

Perhaps that's part of the technocrats Transhumanism plan ?

Perhaps the real philosophers stone is to be able to transcend to higher frequencies altogether whether here or till here is there 

 

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https://www.computerworld.com/article/1557644/nanotech-could-make-humans-immortal-by-2040-futurist-says.html

 

says it's its wonderful But could all go terribly wrong , ( depends who means what)

IE is military (etc)technology and could be Weaponised against population ( or some of it)

 

Of course technocrats been planning this long time , internet of bodies etc 

Eg;COVID speeds up bio digitalisation,

https://horizons.service.canada.ca/en/2022/05/31/biodigital-today-and-tomorrow/index.shtml

 

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And the irony of all this is....we are already immortal beings. We don't die, we transform back to our original energetic state.

The Matrix film was originally titled The Immortals by the way. Think about that for a moment.

Fear of death is one of the biggest control factors used on humanity to keep them enslaved.

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13 minutes ago, RobinJ said:

And the irony of all this is....we are already immortal beings. We don't die, we transform back to our original energetic state.

The Matrix film was originally titled The Immortals by the way. Think about that for a moment.

Fear of death is one of the biggest control factors used on humanity to keep them enslaved.

Yeah I agree robin but I don't think it's bad quest to extend our physical shell. 

 

Although I don't agree with anything against natural law. You can't fight it. It would be dangerous to do so.

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It's not that I've avoided the sun, it's just that I'm fair skinned so wouldnt dream of sunbathing on a balearic beach and I live in manchester so I only have three weeks of actual sun a year to avoid.

 

The net result is I'm 65 without a wrinkle , I look far from being a teenager, but a good bit less than most 65 yo whose faces have fallen apart by now.

 

But that's really a side issue, I keep my self " young " with an exercise regime that takes about 5 minutes a day,  as result I can do physical things well outside the scope of most people my age.

 

Half of them are whizzing round on mobility scooters , I'm doing 15 second 100 meters

 

I had a right set to with the council when I wanted to sign up for a 5 aside football session, they said I had to play walking football , I said I'd rather have a heart attack and I'd take them to court for age discrimination if they wouldnt let me join

 

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1 hour ago, lobster said:

It's not that I've avoided the sun, it's just that I'm fair skinned so wouldnt dream of sunbathing on a balearic beach and I live in manchester so I only have three weeks of actual sun a year to avoid.

 

The net result is I'm 65 without a wrinkle , I look far from being a teenager, but a good bit less than most 65 yo whose faces have fallen apart by now.

 

But that's really a side issue, I keep my self " young " with an exercise regime that takes about 5 minutes a day,  as result I can do physical things well outside the scope of most people my age.

 

Half of them are whizzing round on mobility scooters , I'm doing 15 second 100 meters

 

I had a right set to with the council when I wanted to sign up for a 5 aside football session, they said I had to play walking football , I said I'd rather have a heart attack and I'd take them to court for age discrimination if they wouldnt let me join

 

Do you follow a skincare routine mate?

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1 hour ago, lobster said:

But that's really a side issue, I keep my self " young " with an exercise regime that takes about 5 minutes a day,  as result I can do physical things well outside the scope of most people my age.

 

Yeah my dad's 57 but super-fit jogs and swims outdoors at about 430am. Pretty strong as well-stocky.

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On 12/27/2024 at 3:35 PM, Fluke said:

Yeah my dad's 57 but super-fit jogs and swims outdoors at about 430am. Pretty strong as well-stocky.

I've run my idea on fitness past people on the internet and in real life and the basic responce is " bollux" which is fair enough on the internet , people exaggerate,  but in real life I'm obviously very fit for my age doing what I do and people still tell me I'm talking bolux or just accuse me of being a genetic freak. 

 

People have been brainwashed by the fitness industry into accepting that fitness is expensive gear, takes a ton of time at their gym or needs their expensive expertise and if they havent got the where with all to pay for that, they conclude that its hopeless and do nothing, rather than something that may be suboptimal,  but a fuck of a lot better than nothing. Quite a lot pay up and still do nothing

 

The government dont help their fitness standards for the older sections of the community are no more than managed decline, try and walk round the garden for 45 mins sort of thing, thars good for someone in their 90s for someone in their 50s it's an abysmal lack of effort

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3 hours ago, Mazthehobo said:

I’m in my 40s but I have a simple way of age reversal. And it works.

 

Basically I identify as a 22 year old. And nobody had better dare to question me. 
 

I am a non-senescence being. 

You bring up an interesting point. If someone can Identify as a female while being a biological male, then surely one should be able to identify as a 22 year old while being chronologically older. 

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