Biological age reversal-the philosophers stone?

[Fluke]

Something that has always fascinated me even as a young child was the concept of immortality. Perhaps, the musings of a child and something that would be whimsical. However, there are a few people who have at least claimed to have reversed the biological age, and arguably more importantly, at least according to Bryan Johnson, a tech developer, slowed down ageing. 

 

"A man who is on a quest to live forever claims that he has now slowed down the ageing process to the degree that he can celebrate his birthday every 19 months. Bryan Johnson, 46, has spent an estimated $2m a year on his quest after selling his company Braintree Venmo to PayPal for $800m in 2013".

 

Man claims to have slowed ageing to the equivalent of a birthday every 19 months | The Independent

 

 

The Elon Musk style approach is unsettling, and the man himself, at least to me, comes across as a type of AI programmed software. But like Musk, he does seem to be pushing the limits with his company blueprint, spending his own money on this project and relying solely on statistics in this experiment of "don't die". 

 

He also in 2013 received a blood transfusion from his 17-year-old son. There is supposedly compelling evidence that this can help with symptoms such as cognitive decline. 

 

 

 

What is quite interesting to me, but hardly surprising, is the reaction from the public. It's nearly always comments on appearance, "you don't look 33, you look 46" "your skin doesn't look like a 21-year-old's" when really if this man has managed to "reverse ageing" for certain organs and body parts then surely that is a good thing. 

 

Another man on my radar is Andrew Sinclair, a biologist who studies longevity. Lots of articles and interviews from him, particularly focusing on fasting and a plant based diet. He uses the term "adversity memetics". Essentially the theory is that it is good for the body to go through some distress, whether that be cold and hot therapy, hunger, or the strain we go through while exercising. And of course exercise is essential along with sleep. 

 

They try and poison us every day and contaminate the food sources. And they try to program us into ageing. I've noticed people around me ageing, and even people in their twenties seemingly falling to pieces. Is it the jab or something else? I went to the town not long ago and everything went in slow motion. It wasn't a superiority complex as I am not the perfect picture of health myself, but I realized looking around at the overweight people, the smokers, the twitchers, the mentally ill-just how sick our society is. 

 

The state wouldn't want us to live longer, in my view. I've noticed on social media as well a lot of social engineering and targeted ads, things like I don't know a meme for example "I'm 23 now, so staying up past 11pm is like an Olympic sport". Or today "when you are forty, and you stay up past 11 for the ironing" and then a picture of a lady in her late 80s. Obviously supposed to be humorous, but it is almost like people have some sort of weird fetish for old people, and they are programming the masses. I also think this plays into the communist trick trying to get them young. Alan Watt brought this up frequently in his podcasts that they do not want young people speaking to older people because then they could gain wisdom. 

 

I think there is an occult aspect to this as well. Not necessarily evil or dark either, just those who know. For an example, look at a picture of the royals on the notes. This as far as I can see acts like a sort of sigil, all over the UK and the world that picture is seen of the queen, much younger than she was. The portrait on the notes was always her 30 or even 40 years younger than she was. She was rich, of course, which would have a lot to do with it. But thousands of people see that every day. It is not the queen being in her 80s or even 70s is it?

 

X - Files season 11 there is an episode called "Nothing lasts forever". It is about a longevity cult. The lady playing the main role is said to be in her eighties, however she looks mid-thirties max. 

 

It is largely about organ theft, and harvesting. 

 

For thousands of years, humanity has chased the fountain of youth. Would big pharma kill someone who found a "cure" for ageing? Would the cosmetic industry? There is a lot of money to be made playing on people's vanity, (and I am one of them, I am not above that, I want to look good, but let's face it it's targeted mainly for the females.) Would the pharmaceutical industry be prepared to take out a bunch of scientists who have just cured cancer?

 

I wonder what you guys think. Is this simply against natural law? For instance, if you couldn't "reverse ageing" but at the very least slow it down, would that not be a good thing in the long run for quality of life? I'm for all theories, adrenochrome and all. Speaking of which, Marina Abramović looks good for 77.  

 

I, for one, will be following Bryan Johnson very closely. Philosophically speaking, what living another 50 or 100 years would mean would be mind-boggling to say the least. 

 

Have a good evening, folks. 

 

I am off to bathe in a tub full of asses milk. 

[Talorgan]

1 hour ago, Fluke said:

Something that has always fascinated me even as a young child was the concept of immortality. Perhaps, the musings of a child and something that would be whimsical. However, there are a few people who have at least claimed to have reversed the biological age, and arguably more importantly, at least according to Bryan Johnson, a tech developer, slowed down ageing. 

 

"A man who is on a quest to live forever claims that he has now slowed down the ageing process to the degree that he can celebrate his birthday every 19 months. Bryan Johnson, 46, has spent an estimated $2m a year on his quest after selling his company Braintree Venmo to PayPal for $800m in 2013".

 

Man claims to have slowed ageing to the equivalent of a birthday every 19 months | The Independent

 

 

The Elon Musk style approach is unsettling, and the man himself, at least to me, comes across as a type of AI programmed software. But like Musk, he does seem to be pushing the limits with his company blueprint, spending his own money on this project and relying solely on statistics in this experiment of "don't die". 

 

He also in 2013 received a blood transfusion from his 17-year-old son. There is supposedly compelling evidence that this can help with symptoms such as cognitive decline. 

 

 

 

What is quite interesting to me, but hardly surprising, is the reaction from the public. It's nearly always comments on appearance, "you don't look 33, you look 46" "your skin doesn't look like a 21-year-old's" when really if this man has managed to "reverse ageing" for certain organs and body parts then surely that is a good thing. 

 

Another man on my radar is Andrew Sinclair, a biologist who studies longevity. Lots of articles and interviews from him, particularly focusing on fasting and a plant based diet. He uses the term "adversity memetics". Essentially the theory is that it is good for the body to go through some distress, whether that be cold and hot therapy, hunger, or the strain we go through while exercising. And of course exercise is essential along with sleep. 

 

They try and poison us every day and contaminate the food sources. And they try to program us into ageing. I've noticed people around me ageing, and even people in their twenties seemingly falling to pieces. Is it the jab or something else? I went to the town not long ago and everything went in slow motion. It wasn't a superiority complex as I am not the perfect picture of health myself, but I realized looking around at the overweight people, the smokers, the twitchers, the mentally ill-just how sick our society is. 

 

The state wouldn't want us to live longer, in my view. I've noticed on social media as well a lot of social engineering and targeted ads, things like I don't know a meme for example "I'm 23 now, so staying up past 11pm is like an Olympic sport". Or today "when you are forty, and you stay up past 11 for the ironing" and then a picture of a lady in her late 80s. Obviously supposed to be humorous, but it is almost like people have some sort of weird fetish for old people, and they are programming the masses. I also think this plays into the communist trick trying to get them young. Alan Watt brought this up frequently in his podcasts that they do not want young people speaking to older people because then they could gain wisdom. 

 

I think there is an occult aspect to this as well. Not necessarily evil or dark either, just those who know. For an example, look at a picture of the royals on the notes. This as far as I can see acts like a sort of sigil, all over the UK and the world that picture is seen of the queen, much younger than she was. The portrait on the notes was always her 30 or even 40 years younger than she was. She was rich, of course, which would have a lot to do with it. But thousands of people see that every day. It is not the queen being in her 80s or even 70s is it?

 

X - Files season 11 there is an episode called "Nothing lasts forever". It is about a longevity cult. The lady playing the main role is said to be in her eighties, however she looks mid-thirties max. 

 

It is largely about organ theft, and harvesting. 

 

For thousands of years, humanity has chased the fountain of youth. Would big pharma kill someone who found a "cure" for ageing? Would the cosmetic industry? There is a lot of money to be made playing on people's vanity, (and I am one of them, I am not above that, I want to look good, but let's face it it's targeted mainly for the females.) Would the pharmaceutical industry be prepared to take out a bunch of scientists who have just cured cancer?

 

I wonder what you guys think. Is this simply against natural law? For instance, if you couldn't "reverse ageing" but at the very least slow it down, would that not be a good thing in the long run for quality of life? I'm for all theories, adrenochrome and all. Speaking of which, Marina Abramović looks good for 77.  

 

I, for one, will be following Bryan Johnson very closely. Philosophically speaking, what living another 50 or 100 years would mean would be mind-boggling to say the least. 

 

Have a good evening, folks. 

 

I am off to bathe in a tub full of asses milk. 

I once met an American writer   Robert Coon

on Glastonbury Tor / Chalice Hill,earths heart chakra etc,

who claimed to be an immortalist and in one  of his books ," voyage to Avalon" gives a list of immortalists like Enoch ,etc 

But also suggested or suggests( I no idea if he is still here?)- that more would become immortalists this century  and on into age of aquarius,

Interesting idea  ,via gratitude/ love ,heart frequency 

perhaps in a way a shift in frequency could be a form of immortality ? Who knows ?

But  back in this frequency-

on radio4 other morning there was an article of a study of mice that apparently had been tweaked to live substantialy longer ,so far ?

Oh I thought that idea  of respect for old who have,stories & wisdom and old cultures too ,and  what is past down to young is needed if there is much of it left in this modern world 

Edited July 20, 2024 by Talorgan

[Fluke]

11 minutes ago, Talorgan said:

But also suggested or suggests( I no idea if he is still here?)-

That would be ironic wouldn't it. I'll definitely check him out thanks .

 

 

[Fluke]

Think I found the study you were referring to @Talorgan it's interesting because I have been thinking about the role of inflammation and aging.

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cv2gr3x3xkno

 

Now the field of ageing-research is booming as researchers try to uncover - and manipulate - the molecular processes of ageing.

The team at the MRC Laboratory of Medical Science, Imperial College London and Duke-NUS Medical School in Singapore were investigating a protein called interleukin-11.

Levels of it increase in the human body as we get older, it contributes to higher levels of inflammation, and the researchers say it flips several biological switches that control the pace of ageing.

[Fluke]

Obviously we know collagen etc and we start to lose this as we age. Another subject which is more.complex but one of the leading factors into aging is telemeres. 

 

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41417-024-00768-6#:~:text=Telomeres can also be maintained,and sustain their telomere length.

 

Telomeres shorten with age and progressive telomere shortening leads to senescence and/or apoptosis. Shorter telomeres have also been implicated in genomic instability and oncogenesis. Older people with shorter telomeres have three and eight times increased risk to die from heart and infectious diseases, respectively.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 20, 2024 by Fluke

[Grumpy Grapes]

The 'Great Work' ('immortality') isn't to cheat death, IMO; it's to detach from the mortal, physical world - to be precise, to escape cause-and-effect (karma). 

[Fluke]

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/fasting-like-diet-may-help-reverse-biological-aging-2-5-years#Fasting-5-days-a-month

 

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• A study showed a fasting-mimicking diet (FMD) lowered insulin resistance, liver fat, inflammation, and other markers associated with aging.
• The diet is based on the consumption of formulated food with controlled levels of dietary macros on days 1–5 and then eating normally for 25 days out of a month.
• This fasting-like diet style is not suitable for everyone, including pregnant people and older adults.

 

[Fluke]

 

[Fluke]

 

[Mr H]

I was taught a technique by Mexican shamen on how Toltecs reversed aging

 

I am yet to try.

 

I will report back when i do, potentially as a 18 year old Mr H

[Fluke]

2 hours ago, Mr H said:

I was taught a technique by Mexican shamen on how Toltecs reversed aging

 

I am yet to try.

 

I will report back when i do, potentially as a 18 year old Mr H

Oh come on share it what was the technique? 

 

I heard a bloke reversed his age by 41 years. He is now a 2 year old

[Mr H]

7 minutes ago, Fluke said:

Oh come on share it what was the technique? 

 

I heard a bloke reversed his age by 41 years. He is now a 2 year old

I have it on recording it's very lengthy.

 

Essentially using Mexican astrology and physical movement (spinning).

 

He also taught me how to reincarnate into anything you wish. It was the whole purpose of a Naguals life, to be able to die consciously. It's apparently how the Mexican royals and elites keep reincarnating into same families. Techniques are lucid dreaming and practices with the obsidian mirror....

 

Interesting stuffs . 

[Mr H]

Some more coming back now.

 

It was like. They believe emotions accelerate the aging process. So this part you can reverse.

 

So you recall the emotional traumas, recount them and use hyper ventilaton breath to release. All the while spinning opposite direction of the earth spinning, and you do it for 36 mins every day for 36 days with arms raised throughout. Starting on either full moon or new moon can't remember which.

 

But that was essentially it I think.

[Mr Crabtree]

4 hours ago, Fluke said:

Oh come on share it what was the technique? 

 

I heard a bloke reversed his age by 41 years. He is now a 2 year old

There's something in this, because according to my wife, I'M NOW IN MY SECOND CHILDHOOD! But seriously,  it scares me a bit when I think of everyone around me popping their clogs and me still going on into my 100th or 140th years, your great, great grandchildren would probably be 'too busy to look after that old fart' and you'd ended with some sort of robotic, computerised nurse wiping your wet arse, and your dry lips { I hope they use two different wipes when they do it }! Anyway, if it WAS possible to reverse the aging process, it wouldn't be for the likes of us, it would be an Elitist thing, common or garden scum like us would be allowed to just wither away, otherwise what would have been the point of the 'CONVID JABS' SEEING OFF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WORLD WIDE IN THE FIRST PLACE?  A few weeks ago we celebrated my grandmother's 107th birthday, she actually died when she was 30 years old, but, hey, any excuse for a party 'eh?  My uncle Tom, her baby brother { who's 93 }, cracked a few jokes and his daughter said 'Dad, this is embarrassing, why don't you act your age'? So, he did, and then he died! Probably old age in my opinion and nothing at all to do with being hit by a number 49 bus as he left Budgens and tried to cross the road on his way to 'The Red Lion' for his weekly double whisky and cheese and onion roll! When he was a kid his mother used to say him 'Always wear clean underwear in case you get hit by a bus'! How long did she think your underwear would have stayed clean if you'd ended up being hit by a bus?

[Fluke]

The longevity of rockfish species from the genus Sebastes (Pisces: Scorpaenidae) increases exponentially with their deepest depth of occurrence.

 

 

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Deep-sea-fish-generally-live-longer-than-do-those-in-shallow-water-The-longevity-of_fig1_222541083#:~:text=The longevity of rockfish species,their deepest depth of occurrence.

 

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.moneycontrol.com/news/trends/man-56-spent-93-days-underwater-in-the-atlantic-ocean-he-reversed-his-age-by-10-years-12727369.html/amp

 

 

Retired US naval officer Joseph Dituri made headlines by spending 93 days in a pressurised pod at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean, an adventure that not only broke records but also seemingly reversed the aging process. Dituri, 56, emerged from his underwater habitat significantly rejuvenated, showcasing findings in human physiology.

Dituri’s ambitious expedition was part of a study aimed at understanding the effects of prolonged exposure to a pressurised environment on the human body. Upon resurfacing, the results were nothing short of astonishing.

[Fluke]

Supposedly the longest living mammal. 

 

 

Why do bowhead whales live so long?

 

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2339227-bowhead-whales-live-longer-thanks-to-mutation-that-also-shrinks-testes/#:~:text=Bowhead whales are the longest,cost of reduced male fertility.

Bowhead whales are the longest-lived mammals known, with one male estimated to have been about 211 years old when it was killed by hunters. Now it has been found they have a gene duplication that appears to slow the division of cells, allowing the whales to live longer – but at the cost of reduced male fertility.23 Sept 2022

[Fluke]

This is what it is really about in my opinion. Living to the maximum potential.

[Katsika]

On 7/26/2024 at 1:53 PM, Mr H said:

They believe emotions accelerate the aging process. So this part you can reverse.

by means of the assemblage point being realigned/reset?

 

https://consciousreminder.com/2016/12/18/assemblage-point-seat-consciousness/

 

https://whalemedical.com/how-to-locate-and-realign-your-own-assemblage-point/

[Katsika]

On 7/26/2024 at 1:53 PM, Mr H said:

or new moon can't remember which.

New moon = new cycle, full moon= culmination of the cycle started 2 weeks before at new moon.

 

 

[Fluke]

 

[Mr H]

@Fluke

 

Ok I decided to test this Nahual age reversing technique out. Gonna take me just over a month....

 

I may come back as a schoolboy!

[Katsika]

On 7/28/2024 at 10:39 AM, Katsika said:

On 7/26/2024 at 1:53 PM, Mr H said:

They believe emotions accelerate the aging process. So this part you can reverse.

by means of the assemblage point being realigned/reset?

You didn't answer my query

[Mr H]

On 7/28/2024 at 8:39 AM, Katsika said:

by means of the assemblage point being realigned/reset?

 

https://consciousreminder.com/2016/12/18/assemblage-point-seat-consciousness/

 

https://whalemedical.com/how-to-locate-and-realign-your-own-assemblage-point/

Sorry I didn't see it.

 

The answer is I don't know for sure because on that particular session he did not speak about that.

 

But when I was doing my lucid dreaming and obsidian mirror training with him he did mention some similar things to this article, so it makes sense that's how it could work.in this case

[Fluke]

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/biohacker-antiageing-tiktok-sun-skin-care-b2603300.html

 

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A 35-year-old biohacker who “looks like a teenager” has admitted that one of his secrets to staying young is “living like a vampire”.

Brandon Miles May, who has found internet fame on TikTok, told The Independent that he avoids the sun as much as possible because it is the leading cause of skin damage.

 

 

As well as wearing a hat and sunglasses on the rare occasions he does go outside, he also uses what he describes as a “sunbrella” to protect his skin.

While most people do not think about the effects of ageing until they are in their 30s or older, Brandon claims he became conscious of his desire to keep his skin youthful when he was just 13 years old.

[Katsika]

For me the irony is that he avoids the sun but rightfully says how important the pineal gland is for melatonin production without apparently having a single clue that the pineal gland NEEDS daily sunshine for the circadian rhythm to work properly.  To me he looks like an underdeveloped weed