Original spiritual experiences

[Mr H]

6 hours ago, Thunderbutt said:

The most extreme things happen only when I'm on my knees pleading for help, 

Amazing sharing friend. Were you baptized at all?

 

The same happened to me once as per quote. After my dad died. I spoke with Jesus. The way it occured was after intense emotional release and my being seemed to be completely out of my mind. I called him and he came with some guidance.

[Thunderbutt]

2 hours ago, Mr H said:

Amazing sharing friend. Were you baptized at all?

 

The same happened to me once as per quote. After my dad died. I spoke with Jesus. The way it occured was after intense emotional release and my being seemed to be completely out of my mind. I called him and he came with some guidance.

I was.  I was raised Catholic.  Since my rebirth however, I've gone back to a clean slate.  I refuse to put faith in anything that cannot exist in a vacuum.  Unfortunately, as far as I can tell thus far within my own personal experience, the name Jesus requires scripture to be known.  I've made it clear though, that I will reserve a spot in my heart for him, and if he wants to fill that void he knows what to do.

Edited January 24 by Thunderbutt

[Thunderbutt]

2 hours ago, Mr H said:

Amazing sharing friend. Were you baptized at all?

 

The same happened to me once as per quote. After my dad died. I spoke with Jesus. The way it occured was after intense emotional release and my being seemed to be completely out of my mind. I called him and he came with some guidance.

This is awesome BTW.  I hope to one day be able to say the same.  Something about being at the end of your rope and being dragged through the mud, reaching for help spiritually, and pleading for forgiveness, triggers some kind of process within the soul.

[Campion]

9 hours ago, Thunderbutt said:

The most extreme things happen only when I'm on my knees pleading for help, coincidentally after a full repentance.  The first was during the death of my wife which took eleven days.  Then again after coming to terms with the NIH death protocol at which point I lost my mind for a week.  Then again when I came to terms with the fact that I didn't know anything about the world I live in, which I refer to being born again, because that's what it felt like.  Then again when praying for guidance over a three day fast.  Again when taking care of my mother who developed dementia.  I couldn't work and we had to camp for 6 months in an RV.  I was forced to starve myself several times for days and ran out of water many times as well.  It broke my heart to not have water for my dogs, who are my best friends.  The last time was when living in my car with my two rottweilers starving with no food.

 

The sinless one is my objective name for what I use to refer to as the Holy Spirit.  But since I'm convinced that religion is propaganda I have flushed all structured religion from my subconscious.  This is the only entity that I have ever felt that is pure.  I also refer to it as the only source of truth.

   

That's awesome that you don't rely on external authorities like spiritual teachers and religions. But I feel for you that you have all these tough times through it all. At least there is some help out there for us even if we aren't a 'believer'.  Are things getting easier for you now, or can you see a way forwards if you are getting help?  

 

I know organised religion gets a lot of bad rap but I don't hold it against people. We are a social animal after all and most of us feel a need to belong somewhere. The alternative of an atomised individualism is manipulated by the cabal/illuminati just as much as religion so we need to be careful whatever path we choose.  Most people here in the UK have given up attending organised religions and we are no nearer to freedom than we were before. I'm on the fringes of religion myself but these days the ones I'm attracted to are dissidents as they criticise the globalist order.  However, on the topic of original spiritual experiences, there is a danger of sliding into group think so thanks for giving us a dose of originality and independence.   

[Thunderbutt]

58 minutes ago, Campion said:

   

That's awesome that you don't rely on external authorities like spiritual teachers and religions. But I feel for you that you have all these tough times through it all. At least there is some help out there for us even if we aren't a 'believer'.  Are things getting easier for you now, or can you see a way forwards if you are getting help?  

 

I know organised religion gets a lot of bad rap but I don't hold it against people. We are a social animal after all and most of us feel a need to belong somewhere. The alternative of an atomised individualism is manipulated by the cabal/illuminati just as much as religion so we need to be careful whatever path we choose.  Most people here in the UK have given up attending organised religions and we are no nearer to freedom than we were before. I'm on the fringes of religion myself but these days the ones I'm attracted to are dissidents as they criticise the globalist order.  However, on the topic of original spiritual experiences, there is a danger of sliding into group think so thanks for giving us a dose of originality and independence.   

This deserves a much more in depth answer, probably this evening after work.  For now, long story short, I have found help.  Or better put, help found me.  It's not easy being homeless and living in a car with two rottweilers who are very possessive and protective over their owner.

[Thunderbutt]

23 hours ago, Campion said:

   

That's awesome that you don't rely on external authorities like spiritual teachers and religions. But I feel for you that you have all these tough times through it all. At least there is some help out there for us even if we aren't a 'believer'.  Are things getting easier for you now, or can you see a way forwards if you are getting help?  

 

I know organised religion gets a lot of bad rap but I don't hold it against people. We are a social animal after all and most of us feel a need to belong somewhere. The alternative of an atomised individualism is manipulated by the cabal/illuminati just as much as religion so we need to be careful whatever path we choose.  Most people here in the UK have given up attending organised religions and we are no nearer to freedom than we were before. I'm on the fringes of religion myself but these days the ones I'm attracted to are dissidents as they criticise the globalist order.  However, on the topic of original spiritual experiences, there is a danger of sliding into group think so thanks for giving us a dose of originality and independence.   

I can't explain it other than to say that I am being groomed.  The decisions that I have made over the four years since the death of my wife were not logical, but instead were mistakes, resulting in the perfect formula ensuring that I am left isolated, excommunicated and banished from family and friends, humbled beyond my imagination, and stuck in this town homeless with a bad transmission.  Stupid, illogical mistakes that I wouldn't normally make, and if given a second chance, would not repeat.  But looking back, that's the only thing that makes sense when you consider the spiritual growth that has been imposed on me as a result.  I don't understand the purpose, but I know that we are balls deep in a spiritual war, and I am now ready for anything.  That's as specific as I am comfortable being, given that the enemy's AI has the ability to track PII across NGO and multinational databases.  Things that you would not consider to be PII, are exactly that, given the fact that they have their hands in everything.  I don't know if this soul trap/farm is worth fighting for, but something tells me that it is the core of everything that we hold dear, and so fight for it we must.  What that actually means has yet to be understood, by me anyway.

 

Here in the US it is still very Christian based, which is not inherently bad, but people are stupid.  They see evidence in front of their eyes, but behave as if they hadn't.  Still waiting for a savior.  The brain washing runs deep.

Edited January 25 by Thunderbutt

[RobinJ]

3 hours ago, Thunderbutt said:

I can't explain it other than to say that I am being groomed.  The decisions that I have made over the four years since the death of my wife were not logical, but instead were mistakes, resulting in the perfect formula ensuring that I am left isolated, excommunicated and banished from family and friends, humbled beyond my imagination, and stuck in this town homeless with a bad transmission.  Stupid, illogical mistakes that I wouldn't normally make, and if given a second chance, would not repeat.  But looking back, that's the only thing that makes sense when you consider the spiritual growth that has been imposed on me as a result.  I don't understand the purpose, but I know that we are balls deep in a spiritual war, and I am now ready for anything.  That's as specific as I am comfortable being, given that the enemy's AI has the ability to track PII across NGO and multinational databases.  Things that you would not consider to be PII, are exactly that, given the fact that they have their hands in everything.  I don't know if this soul trap/farm is worth fighting for, but something tells me that it is the core of everything that we hold dear, and so fight for it we must.  What that actually means has yet to be understood, by me anyway.

 

Here in the US it is still very Christian based, which is not inherently bad, but people are stupid.  They see evidence in front of their eyes, but behave as if they hadn't.  Still waiting for a savior.  The brain washing runs deep.

I've listened to a lot of people talk about their spiritual awakenings and heard it said many times, that for some people, there is a need to remove everything and be brought back to zero to enable the light to truly shine within.

It can be a hard lesson, but when you have let go of the material crap there is more room to be something else.

We are collectively climbing out of the dark ages. The more of us that realise this and talk about our experiences, the more it will give others the courage to admit that they see the world around them isn't true or worthy of blind devotion.

 

[Campion]

10 hours ago, Thunderbutt said:

I can't explain it other than to say that I am being groomed.  The decisions that I have made over the four years since the death of my wife were not logical, but instead were mistakes, resulting in the perfect formula ensuring that I am left isolated, excommunicated and banished from family and friends, humbled beyond my imagination, and stuck in this town homeless with a bad transmission.  Stupid, illogical mistakes that I wouldn't normally make, and if given a second chance, would not repeat.  But looking back, that's the only thing that makes sense when you consider the spiritual growth that has been imposed on me as a result.  I don't understand the purpose, but I know that we are balls deep in a spiritual war, and I am now ready for anything.  That's as specific as I am comfortable being, given that the enemy's AI has the ability to track PII across NGO and multinational databases.  Things that you would not consider to be PII, are exactly that, given the fact that they have their hands in everything.  I don't know if this soul trap/farm is worth fighting for, but something tells me that it is the core of everything that we hold dear, and so fight for it we must.  What that actually means has yet to be understood, by me anyway.

 

Here in the US it is still very Christian based, which is not inherently bad, but people are stupid.  They see evidence in front of their eyes, but behave as if they hadn't.  Still waiting for a savior.  The brain washing runs deep.

 

Sorry to hear about your wife, and the difficult time afterwards. No worries about being too specific I'm the same. But you explained some spiritual experiences which have been granted you through the struggle, I wonder if that's what you mean by the grooming?  That, and how you feel this is imposed on you, perhaps by the sinless one / holy spirit, are worrying though.  Loving teachers would ask your consent surely?  Or I dunno, perhaps there's some kind of soul contract that's not in sight at the moment.  

[Thunderbutt]

1 hour ago, Campion said:

 

Sorry to hear about your wife, and the difficult time afterwards. No worries about being too specific I'm the same. But you explained some spiritual experiences which have been granted you through the struggle, I wonder if that's what you mean by the grooming?  That, and how you feel this is imposed on you, perhaps by the sinless one / holy spirit, are worrying though.  Loving teachers would ask your consent surely?  Or I dunno, perhaps there's some kind of soul contract that's not in sight at the moment.  

I feel that it is a contract.  I made an agreement the day my wife died, a proposition you might say.  Now a bond between my soul, my wife and the Devine.  I guess "imposed" isn't necessary the correct term, but I don't dare pull out of it.  Just remember to be careful the promises you make in your most emotional states.

Edited January 25 by Thunderbutt

[Campion]

57 minutes ago, Thunderbutt said:

I feel that it is a contract.  I made an agreement the day my wife died, a proposition you might say.  Now a bond between my soul, my wife and the Devine.  I guess "imposed" isn't necessary the correct term, but I don't dare pull out of it.  Just remember to be careful the promises you make in your most emotional states.

  

Wow, yes I see.  Mind you, I'm just an ordinary guy nothing divine about me, and even I wouldn't hold someone to a promise when they're in such grief and tough times.  Have you tried talking to them about it, praying or whatever - they wouldn't want you to carry on suffering would they? 

[Thunderbutt]

1 minute ago, Campion said:

  

Wow, yes I see.  Mind you, I'm just an ordinary guy nothing divine about me, and even I wouldn't hold someone to a promise when they're in such grief and tough times.  Have you tried talking to them about it, praying or whatever - they wouldn't want you to carry on suffering would they? 

No way.  I'm all on board.  This shit hole is falling apart anyway.

[Mr H]

I would like to speak a little about "No fap".

 

In the ancient traditions, they believe that sexual energy in the male is representative of God's creative energy. It is used to create stuff. To build, to write, to paint. And the ultimate creation possible, another human.

 

Now, dark forces do not like the creative God like forces. They wish to surpress it. And they have done that by creating a society focused on sex. Via culture and specifically targeted at males via pornography.

 

This keeps males subdued, lacklustre and a go with the flow mentality. Males are not expressing themselves uniquely because they have wasted their creative energies.

 

This does not mean that all self pleasure or sex is bad. People use "sex magic" practices to manifest. People have sex to heal or get closer to God. The difference here, is that you get something in exchange for your energy. Fapping to porn or having unconscious sex, there is no exchange and it is wasted, leaving you weak, rooting you in the egoic mind, and with the dopamine hits it gives, leaves you wanting more and more, and more.

 

On a physical level it will raise your testosterone. Fighters before a fight usually abstain for this reason. It gives you the strength and clarity to perform the male protector role.

 

Imo it is one of the best practices a male can do if he wants to be useful to society and fullfil their true destiny.

[Mr H]

Had my first Qigong class today.

 

Seemed like I didn't do very much. But I felt incredible afterwards.

 

100000000% recommend if have trouble regulating any emotions and stuff....