The Mainsteam Alternative Media (MAM)

[wagdog19]

I enjoy Jimmy Dore, he is quite close to the knuckle, and is not pushing agendas.(Promoting products aside). His sidekick, Kurt.. i forget the surname, looks like a chubby Pep Guardiola

[wagdog19]

4 minutes ago, wagdog19 said:

I enjoy Jimmy Dore, he is quite close to the knuckle, and is not pushing agendas.(Promoting products aside). His sidekick, Kurt.. i forget the surname, looks like a chubby Pep Guardiola

"The only reason Howard Stern isn't on Epstein's list, is 'cos he took the boat"..

[wagdog19]

Although not classed as MAM, Al Jazeera has been banned in Israel as of today.

They're panicking...

[Campion]

3 hours ago, wagdog19 said:

Although not classed as MAM, Al Jazeera has been banned in Israel as of today.

They're panicking...

 

Could be a coincidence but I tuned into Al Jazeera briefly yesterday and they were reporting on a story about Turkey starting to boycott trade with Israel. Their channel is practically 24/7 about Gaza at the moment. 

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/inside-story/2024/5/4/how-effective-is-turkeys-ban-on-trade-with-israel  

[wagdog19]

4 hours ago, Campion said:

 

Could be a coincidence but I tuned into Al Jazeera briefly yesterday and they were reporting on a story about Turkey starting to boycott trade with Israel. Their channel is practically 24/7 about Gaza at the moment. 

 

https://www.aljazeera.com/program/inside-story/2024/5/4/how-effective-is-turkeys-ban-on-trade-with-israel  

 

4 hours ago, Campion said:

 

Could be a coincidence but I tuned into Al Jazeera briefly yesterday and they were reporting on a story about Turkey starting to boycott trade with Israel. Their channel is practically 24/7 about Gaza at the moment. 

 

They are the only news agency that has the courage to report the truth, and reveal the zionist lust for blood, blood and more blood.

 

[Katsika]

On 5/6/2024 at 12:30 AM, wagdog19 said:

...they were reporting on a story about Turkey starting to boycott trade with Israel.

Just a coincidence perhaps ?

 

I posted this elsewhere earlier -

 

Traffic in the Bosphorus Strait is suspended due to the ALEXIS vessel running aground

 

https://en.rua.gr/2024/05/07/traffic-in-the-bosphorus-strait-is-suspended-due-to-the-alexis-vessel-running-aground/

[Grumpy Grapes]

Here is another Christian conspiracy researcher, Celeste Solum, but being promoted positively by the David Icke website. 

 

"Do not trust “words” in anything but the Bible, because with the semantic shell game, word definitions can be changed in as little as every 48 hours."

 

"Our true original design is deep within the recesses of our being and Spirit.  You can overcome through Jesus Christ and His overcoming all adversaries and even death."

 

https://davidicke.com/2024/05/09/the-chaos-of-the-pandemic-timeline-by-celeste-solum/

Edited May 10, 2024 by Grumpy Grapes

[DaleP]

UK is ranked at 23rd.

2024 World Press Freedom Index – journalism under political pressure

https://rsf.org/en/index

[Grumpy Grapes]

2 hours ago, DaleP said:

UK is ranked at 23rd.

2024 World Press Freedom Index – journalism under political pressure

https://rsf.org/en/index

 

Israel - 101st

Palestine - 157th

[wagdog19]

Although I don't consider GB News alternative media, on their inception, I had a hope they would be different. Mark Steyn was hilarious, and didn't give a fu^$, and hence got dropped. 3 years on, it's like watching Sky/Sly News. Which reaffirms my belief that the soul is so cheap nowadays. Unforgivable. 

[Dragon Slayer]

Rebel Call. Aswell.

[Mitochondrial Eve]

Sky News reporter Tom Cheshire attended the Weekend Truth Festival (WTF) in Cumbria a few weeks ago. He was allowed to report on the event by the organisers after prior negotiations.

 

Cheshire has written this article about his experience honing in on how he was called "a virgin" and "lefty pressy scum" by Katie Hopkins and Mark Steele's criminal past. For those who haven't seen it, his broadcasted report, including interviews with some of the attendees, is below. Dolores Cahill also challenged him at the event and that video has been widely shared prior to the release of Cheshire's report.

 

Naturally Cheshire paints conspiracists as nutcases, who are potentially being radicalised (including children being encouraged to chant slogans), with the inevitable dig at DI and his reptilian theory. To be fair to Cheshire, whilst his account is clearly very biased, I am also uncomfortable with how children are being spurred to chant slogans which seems all too much like group think and akin to the type of messaging and ritual we saw during Covid which was what the movement was supposed to be standing against.

 

In my opinion, the likes of Katie Hopkins, Dolores Cahill and Mark Steele have been deliberately planted within the "freedom movement" for precisely the purpose of discrediting those who question official narratives. Unfortunately I think it is all too easy during the early stages of "waking up" (currently comprised of those who came to conspiracy research due to Covid), to be taken in by the plethora of conspiracy candy. It takes some time to build enough discernment to understand that there are controlled elements within the alt space, the reasons behind that and tactics employed - so Covid was an opportune time to capitalise on the growing numbers of people questioning events and, while wet around the ears, direct them into dead ends whilst making a mockery of them. That is what I think is going on with this Sky News report.

 

There are a number of these sorts of festivals taking place this summer and I wonder if these events may be part of a coordinated plan to keep the resistance to further encroachments on our freedom distracted and under control.

 

 

[Mr H]

I saw a little of this in DI and also when he appeared on Alex Jones. I think David has a right to be peeved considering how much time he has spent on these things only for others to get the limelight.

 

Thing I try and be careful of. Like a lot of conspiracy folks seem to think like, every single thing in the world is controlled by one super evil human. Like a Dr evil character or Satan Klaus. Now some of course is true. But often simpliest explanation is best.

 

A simple human is driven by dopamine reward. No greater dopamine reward than adulation. I think in most of these cases it's humans craving, attention, fame, money to maximise dopamine hits for them. And they will say, be anybody to get them. One day they will be conspiracy theorist, next day something else. The reason why they do "better" than Icke is because they are professional marketers and will say anything to get attention.

 

Rather than an evil hand propagating these people before us controlling their every word.

[Katsika]

37 minutes ago, Mr H said:

A simple human is driven by dopamine reward. No greater dopamine reward than adulation.

Not in my world it ain't

[Mr H]

29 minutes ago, Katsika said:

Not in my world it ain't

Awesome.

 

To illustrate the point.

 

Take Mr Tate. All he has ever wanted was fame. You can see by his actions, contestant on big brother.

 

Ok so now he is expert on the matrix is he? Or he just saying any old shit to get adulation, essentially more dopamine like a drug addict.

 

Same with Brand. I mean this guy has been lothario, yogi,movie star, presenter etc now he an expert in world affairs?

 

Lol

 

Problem here lies with gullible public rather than someone making them do this stuff.

Edited June 3, 2024 by Mr H

[Katsika]

13 minutes ago, Mr H said:

Take Mr Tate. All he has ever wanted was fame. You can see by his actions, contestant on big brother.

Thankfully I'd left the UK before all the reality shows took off. 

I think the current dopamine hit for way too many (young and old) is the effing mobile phone story e.g. constantly checking in with the device.  Dopamine acts as both a neuro transmitter and a major hormone - no wonder people have become so "disturbed" (for want of another adjective).

 

[Mitochondrial Eve]

8 hours ago, Mr H said:

Awesome.

 

To illustrate the point.

 

Take Mr Tate. All he has ever wanted was fame. You can see by his actions, contestant on big brother.

 

Ok so now he is expert on the matrix is he? Or he just saying any old shit to get adulation, essentially more dopamine like a drug addict.

 

Same with Brand. I mean this guy has been lothario, yogi,movie star, presenter etc now he an expert in world affairs?

 

Lol

 

Problem here lies with gullible public rather than someone making them do this stuff.

 

I agree with your sentiment about the gullibility of the audiences of certain dubious characters and that the followers of such individuals are ultimately accountable for their unquestioning attitude towards their heroes. It's on each and every one of us to be responsible for what we choose to accept as truth and the level we will go to, before accepting something, to check the veracity of what has been presented.

 

Concerning your other point about how such "heroes" may be motivated by adulation rather than undue influence, one example I can think of where it became an ego boost being part of the "truth movement" is that of the late John Harris. In his last interview on the Graham Hart show, he was pretty candid in admitting with regret that only aspects of what he had promoted was truth and that he was seduced by his ego into keeping it up when it was leading to the detriment of others. Having said that, although ego may play its part, such individuals may also be thrust into the limelight and used unbeknownst to them - I think an element of that may also have been involved when it came to John Harris.

 

Whilst I can accept that there are some "useful idiots" within the conspiracy-sphere who don't realise they are playing a part in the distraction, and that some are more motivated by grift than more nefarious intent, I don't think that all 'MAM' types are uncontrolled and/or just pursuing Twitter likes and other forms of adulation. Elon Musk, for example, is surely part of the agenda and DI points this out relentlessly including how it has been shown that Israeli company Au10tix - which has been launched by members of Israel's domestic intelligence agency - is providing the biometric identity verification on X. Donald Trump is another obvious example and an individual towards which DI has a lot to say.

[Mr H]

1 hour ago, Mitochondrial Eve said:

 

I agree with your sentiment about the gullibility of the audiences of certain dubious characters and that the followers of such individuals are ultimately accountable for their unquestioning attitude towards their heroes. It's on each and every one of us to be responsible for what we choose to accept as truth and the level we will go to, before accepting something, to check the veracity of what has been presented.

 

Concerning your other point about how such "heroes" may be motivated by adulation rather than undue influence, one example I can think of where it became an ego boost being part of the "truth movement" is that of the late John Harris. In his last interview on the Graham Hart show, he was pretty candid in admitting with regret that only aspects of what he had promoted was truth and that he was seduced by his ego into keeping it up when it was leading to the detriment of others. Having said that, although ego may play its part, such individuals may also be thrust into the limelight and used unbeknownst to them - I think an element of that may also have been involved when it came to John Harris.

 

Whilst I can accept that there are some "useful idiots" within the conspiracy-sphere who don't realise they are playing a part in the distraction, and that some are more motivated by grift than more nefarious intent, I don't think that all 'MAM' types are uncontrolled and/or just pursuing Twitter likes and other forms of adulation. Elon Musk, for example, is surely part of the agenda and DI points this out relentlessly including how it has been shown that Israeli company Au10tix - which has been launched by members of Israel's domestic intelligence agency - is providing the biometric identity verification on X. Donald Trump is another obvious example and an individual towards which DI has a lot to say.

I think the truth about Elon Musk and Donald Trump, no one actually knows, we can speculate.

 

I was friends with a guy in the past who knew Trump quite well. The impression I got, was he is surprisingly well read, is well aware of influences in shadow government and plays it as best he can and he genuinely loves America and wants to make a difference.

 

Should point out here. I am not a fan of his or any politician. Quite disgusted by many things he does.

 

But I don't think you can be in power and not pay your dues to the lobbies that got you there, or shadow government members. It's naive to think you can get such a position and not be influenced in ways. 

 

Elon Musk. I will let others speak more on him, as I haven't researched him extensively. I would imagine he gets multiple dopamine hits from being labelled the saviour of free speech, and although I hate his work, it seems like he actually believes in what he is doing. Maybe he is being helped, but many people get help in getting position and funding. Just because I hate what he does, doesn't mean he is forced or controlled. I think he's doing what he believes in.

 

I'm also sure there must be examples out there where someone is literally just a controlled puppet also.

[Mr H]

And just general point.

 

I see this a lot in spiritual community. Like folks will poo poo a "guru" or teacher, because he doesn't meet all of their subjective ideas of how a guru should behave. And will disregard what they say even if it makes sense, because they saw them smoking or shagging.

 

And I think some in conspiracy arena have similar expectations of people in politics or business. As if they should be purer than Jesus Christ himself. These expectations are usually very subjective and impossible to ever meet for everyone. 

 

If you are looking for a Jesus in politics or business you will look for a long time.

[1velocity7]

what does it take to change?

 

Edited July 23, 2024 by 1velocity7

[Screamingeagle]

Perpetual Blitzkrieg To Break Your Spirit’ – David Icke Dot-Connector Videocast

 

https://davidicke.com/2024/07/26/perpetual-blitzkrieg-to-break-your-spirit-david-icke-dot-connector-videocast/

 

talks a bit about how the majors MAM sellouts operate 

[wagdog19]

I estimate there are 38 million adult people in the UK that engage with media.

I estimate there are 38,000 people employed in the visual/audio arts and entertainment industry( actors, presenters,etc). That's 0.10% of the population. THAT is the best sheep dog in the world.!

[Mitochondrial Eve]

OffGuardian's Kit Knightly has written an insightful piece concerning the usefulness of X as a "free speech" platform.

 

https://off-guardian.org/2024/08/22/how-and-why-they-sell-x-as-a-bastion-of-free-speech/

How (and why) they sell X as a “bastion of free speech”

In essence, he posits that it allows for better monitoring and steering of dissent rather than forcing opposition underground. With the previous Twitter purge, alternative news types started their own initiatives instead which could not be so easily surveilled or controlled.

 

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What is the point of spending billions creating a massive surveillance network if you keep banning all the people you want to surveil?

 

What good is it spending the budget of a medium-sized country on influencers, bots and shills, and then stopping people from seeing them?

 

No, banning doesn’t work, it just puts people outside your system of influence and control.

 

Outside the system is bad, they need everyone inside. They don’t care if you’re praising or criticising, loving or hating, defending its existence or denying it – everything is acceptable, as long as you do it where they can see you.

 

They needed to invite those banished souls back inside, and the most efficient way of doing that was to adapt the Red/Blue fake dichotomy model of elections to the world of social media.

 

In short, to bring the banned people back and patch over the hole they’d made, they needed to rehabilitate Twitter.

 

Enter Elon Musk, and “X”.

 

It’s all about creating a controlled opposition.

 

In order to regain control of the narrative, a watered down platform offering semi-truths has been provided whilst it is swamped with racism, porn bots, clickbait and "ragebait" leading to calls for more regulation.

 

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The branding is clear: Musk is the people’s billionaire, the “pick me” mogul who’s “not like the other oligarchs”.

 

You don’t need me to explain how useful this dynamic is in controlling mass opinion. It’s creating organised religion for the atheist generation. Tenets of faith no different in purpose and far tackier in presentation.

 

Importantly we should ask: Has Twitter even really improved now that it’s “X”?

 

No it hasn’t. The “left-wing” Musk critics are right about that.

 

Maybe there is an increased amount of overt racism and race-baiting, or maybe now it’s just promoted. Either way, there’s no ignoring it.

 

What equally can’t be ignored is the massive proliferation of ads and porn bots and the same gifs and videos clogging every discussion. Monetisation has led to an avalanche of accounts farming engagement with blatant clickbait, ragebait, cutebait….just, all the bait.

 

All the while, these newly unpleasant facets of X are being brandished by the pro-censorship “left”, and used to discredit the very idea of free speech in general.

 

“See, absolute freedom of speech just means racism and porn”, they get to say, “We need more regulation!”

 

Now, there’s an argument that all the bait could be considered “the acceptable price of free speech”…

 

…if free speech was what we actually got.

 

But it’s not.

 

Meanwhile, covert censorship still operates behind the facade for those who are truly independent minded.

 

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This [sic] is quite obvious “visibility filtering” in action, and all the truly anti-establishment thinkers are subject to it.

 

It’s all about “speech not reach”, ensuring all independent thought is quarantined off in its own little virtual “free speech cages”.

 

Instead of banning the voices they don’t want to speak, they lock them up in soundproof rooms where they can scream their lungs out, and only the FBI agents set to monitor them can hear, and only bots designed to control them will respond.

 

[Screamingeagle]

 

https://davidicke.com/2024/09/28/the-back-of-elon-musks-satanic-halloween-costume/

[cemeterycrow]

 

David recently said that the alternative mainstream media has become the Christian right.

While I don't disagree I would go further and say the intelligence agencies got in on the act in a noticeable way around 2014 and amplified in the build up to Trumps first election win. These agencies saw the potential in harnessing a gullible and growing potential voter base.

 

It might be fun getting that X money while people like David are shadow banned when all you have to do is suck Trump, Musk and Israels cock a few times a day but free speech is being trampled on everywhere else and when it happens to you and you are shut down or it is sold off you won't have anywhere else to go.