We're being played for fools into an ethnic conflict

[pi3141]

[Katsika]

 

[LastOneLeftInTheCounty]

8 hours ago, pi3141 said:

I accept the Ancient Astronaut Theory.

 

I also think there was a cataclysm 1000's of years ago.

 

I don't think we're the first civilisation to rise on planet earth.

 

But AI controlling the planet since dawn of time?

 

Well there is a possibility that we're holographic, so in that construct the theory would be plausible.

 

But I believe in a reality, don't take that the wrong way, I'm saying I do believe we live on a planet, that orbits the Sun and plants grow using that light and we eat them, I know there us a spiritual world included in this reality, but for me, the Universe is infinite, is timeless, the Earth is a globe spinning around the Sun and I am a human being experiencing this.

 

This idea that we're living in an AI simulation is just modern Gnosticism. It's a spiritual way of looking at the world and gives the experiencer a map to their reality to cope with an existence  they don't understand. 

 

Just like Christianity. 

 

Doesn't make it real though. 

 

Just like Christianity!

 

 

It could be that the AI has developed into a biological sentient being, like bacteria or microbes, or something existing outside our sight on the infrared or ultraviolet spectrum, and the nanotech is its lower form so it can exist in this realm 

[sock muppet]

On 8/14/2024 at 11:41 PM, pi3141 said:

I accept the Ancient Astronaut Theory.

 

I also think there was a cataclysm 1000's of years ago.

 

I don't think we're the first civilisation to rise on planet earth.

 

But AI controlling the planet since dawn of time?

 

Well there is a possibility that we're holographic, so in that construct the theory would be plausible.

 

But I believe in a reality, don't take that the wrong way, I'm saying I do believe we live on a planet, that orbits the Sun and plants grow using that light and we eat them, I know there us a spiritual world included in this reality, but for me, the Universe is infinite, is timeless, the Earth is a globe spinning around the Sun and I am a human being experiencing this.

 

This idea that we're living in an AI simulation is just modern Gnosticism. It's a spiritual way of looking at the world and gives the experiencer a map to their reality to cope with an existence  they don't understand. 

 

Just like Christianity. 

 

Doesn't make it real though. 

 

Just like Christianity!

 

 

 

Possibly best to continue the discussion in this thread, the Pyramids of Giza do encapsulate much of your post above,

 

https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/16226-the-great-pyramids-of-giza-are-made-of-concrete/

 

[sock muppet]

On 8/14/2024 at 8:47 AM, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Agreed. DuckDuckGo 'UK Labour leader Starmer opens up about his family’s ****** traditions'

 

Oh yeh, let's not forget his time in a commie work camp.

 

I appreciate the honesty. Very cool that you're beginning to notice!

 

Oh what's that, you thought Sunak was a normal Asian? Nope, he is on video about having blood from a certain group.

 

It's all so tiresome.

 

You highlight something i spent all of five minutes on and got bored, do you know or have a link to some evidence that starmer has dual citizenship?

[Grumpy Owl]

On 8/11/2024 at 10:25 PM, pi3141 said:

Now the MSM are changing the truth to suit the agenda.

 

They claim there is more support for immigration than opposition, and those opposing are a minority of right wing thugs.

 

Which is not true.

 

 

We can see it in articles like this -

 

Pro-refugee counter-protesters outnumber far-right across the country

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13731055/Thousands-pro-refugee-counter-protesters-outnumber-far-right-activists-country-including-outside-Reform-UKs-HQ-London.html?ito=native_share_article-nativemenubutton

 

They are reshaping public opinion and they've used the violence caused by Right Wing to dismiss any genuine concerns about mass, uncontrollable immigration. 

 

Played indeed.

 

 

 

As per the title of a David Icke book, it's all a massive "perception deception".

 

Think of it as a "noisy minority" versus a "silent majority".

 

There are probably a great number of people who are concerned about immigration, transgenderism, sexualising of children etc, and prefer to keep their mouth shut so as not to upset anyone.

 

People who are strongly 'pro-immigration' - the "Stand Up To Racism" mob etc - of course are lauded by the media, despite them very much being in the minority, because it fuels the narrative that the Establishment are trying to spin. Anyone who is opposed to all this is meant to feel that somehow they are in the minority.

 

It's all part of the social engineering, the great 'inversion' of everything. Democracy used to be about bending to the will of the majority of people, now its all about pandering to minorities.

 

Sod what the majority of honest, hard-working, tax-paying citizens think or feel about how their country is being run.

 

That's why any kind of legitimate protest has to be undermined or infiltrated by 'far-right thugs', no doubt paid-for 'louts-for-hire', with the intention of making any such protest 'look bad', and thus make ordinary people question what they have gotten involved in.

 

It's one thing to legitimately protest against immigration and migrant crime, but torching migrant hotels and attacking police officers deliberately undermines any honest intentions that were set out.

[pi3141]

33 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

t's one thing to legitimately protest against immigration and migrant crime, but torching migrant hotels and attacking police officers deliberately undermines any honest intentions that were set out.

 

Good post Grumpy.

 

Totally agree with this last paragraph, it's a shame they pushed it to far, now we don't have the moral high ground.

[Campion]

1 hour ago, pi3141 said:

Good post Grumpy.

 

Totally agree with this last paragraph, it's a shame they pushed it to far, now we don't have the moral high ground.

  

Yeah and I'm thinking back to 14th March this year when Michael Gove gave his definition and list of extremists. To my knowledge none of those 5 groups were involved in the riots or any violence, showing how little the politicians understood what's going on and wide of the mark was their policies to do something about it. 

 

Ironically enough their website below states: 

 

"Extremism can lead to the radicalisation of individuals, deny people their full rights and opportunities, suppress freedom of expression, incite hatred, erode our democratic institutions, social capital and cohesion, and can lead to acts of terrorism. " 

 

So who is now suppressing freedom of expression and eroding our social capital and cohesion by forcing through mass immigration and multiculturalism, and calling people extreme who disagree with it.  People are in prison for expressing their views about it, under the pretext of incitement to racial hatred. 

 

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/new-definition-of-extremism-2024/new-definition-of-extremism-2024   

[Anti Facts Sir]

Ironic.

[GarethIcke]

It's an interesting one. If you look at the footage from the 'riots', there is very minimal, because hardly anything happened. 

 

Loads of protests were 'organised' and spread around certain channels on both sides.  They were hoping for conflict. 

 

Take Derby for instance. It was everywhere that there was going to be a huge protest in Normanton Road (A heavily populated area of different cultures). Both within the local and immigrant communities. Police were on high alert and the railway station was swarming with police. 

 

Yet no one took the bait. No one came out and gave them what they wanted. This was the case in 99% of the country. 

 

Personally I think they wanted a far bigger divide and rule event than the one they got. 

[sock muppet]

On 8/14/2024 at 8:47 AM, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Agreed. DuckDuckGo 'UK Labour leader Starmer opens up about his family’s ****** traditions'

 

Oh yeh, let's not forget his time in a commie work camp.

 

I appreciate the honesty. Very cool that you're beginning to notice!

 

Oh what's that, you thought Sunak was a normal Asian? Nope, he is on video about having blood from a certain group.

 

It's all so tiresome.

 

22 hours ago, sock muppet said:

 

You highlight something i spent all of five minutes on and got bored, do you know or have a link to some evidence that starmer has dual citizenship?

 

Opening big bucket of worms in 3.....2.....1.....

 

Okay, so i took some time to revisit the question of dual citizenship, and guess what, it stinks, well in this country it does, no wonder i could not find anything specific.

Influence and kontrol of a foriegn power anyone?

Being played for fools into an ethnic conflict anyone?

I think so, so here is some evidence to feast on ze bucket of bugz,

 

https://www.gov.uk/dual-citizenship

Quote:

'Dual citizenship (also known as dual nationality) is allowed in the UK. This means you can be a British citizen and also a citizen of other countries.

You do not need to apply for dual citizenship. You can apply for foreign citizenship and keep your British citizenship.

Many countries do not accept dual citizenship. Check with the country’s consulate or embassy in the UK to find out about that country’s laws on dual nationality.'

 

https://www.parliament.uk/about/mps-and-lords/members/electing-mps/candidates/

Quote:

' Who can stand as an MP?
To stand as a candidate in a UK Parliamentary General Election you need to be at least 18 years old and:
    a British citizen
    a citizen of the Republic of Ireland
    a citizen of a commonwealth country who does not require leave to enter or remain in the UK, or has indefinite leave to remain in the UK'

 

https://www.parliament.uk/site-information/freedom-of-information/information-we-already-publish/house-of-commons-publication-scheme/members-and-members-staff/members-citizenship-2018/

Quote:

' Members citizenship (2018)
Request
I would like information about how many UK MP's are:
i) not UK citizens,
ii) dual or multiple nationals,
iii)) a breakdown of the countries involved,
iii) dual national MP's and also Government Ministers .

 

Response
How many UK MP's are:
i) not UK citizens,
ii) dual or multiple nationals,
iii)) a breakdown of the countries involved,
iii) dual national MP's and also Government Ministers.

This information is not held by the House of Commons.  Members of Parliament are not employees of the House and this information is not routinely collected for business purposes, so we hold no comprehensive list of this nature.'

 

https://www.theipsa.org.uk/freedom-of-information/rfi-202111-16

Quote:
'MP's who hold dual nationalities
Request
I wish to find out whether any Members of Parliament hold passports other than those issued by the United Kingdom.
Specifically, I would like to know which MPs hold such a passport, their political party and which country issued them the passport and when that country issued them the passport.
Statistically, I would like a breakdown of the number of MPs who hold a passport other than one issued by the UK broken down by date of issue and by the political party of the MPs.

 

Response
IPSA does not hold the information which you have requested.
We regulate MPs’ staffing and business costs, determine their pay and pension arrangements and provide financial support to them in carrying out their parliamentary functions.'

 

And this on stackexchange from almost seven years ago

Quote:

Question?
'Have there ever been Members of Parliament who weren't UK citizens?.'

 

(I have selected these two comments as particularly relevant)

@origimbo As the question refers to "UK citizen" this limits the question to post 1948, as prior to that act, there were no "British Citizens" Prior to that, there were only "British subjects", and all citzens of the Empire were British subjects. So the question only applies to post 1948, and "before the acts of union" doesn't count. –
James K
Commented Sep 15, 2017 at 20:21

As British law recognises dual nationality, there are many who have been both British and something else. For example Nadhim Zahawi, the current MP for Stratford on Avon is has dual British and Iraqi nationality. And he was in the news when it was discovered that Trump's ban on muslims applied to him. Nancy Astor, the first female MP to take her seat was the American wife of Viscount Astor who came to Britain in 1906. But presumably by that time had become a British subject by marriage. –
WS2
Commented Sep 17, 2017 at 12:31

 

[sock muppet]

9 hours ago, sock muppet said:

And this on stackexchange from almost seven years ago

 

OOOPS

And here is the link to the stackexchange post quoted above

 

https://politics.stackexchange.com/questions/24619/have-there-ever-been-members-of-parliament-who-werent-uk-citizens

[78ast78dgyad]

Is there some sort of wavelength or radio beam being emitted that makes people go on knife rampages?

 

It seems to be affecting white people too, most notably the Hainault sword attack, so I don't think it's ethnically related.

 

It could definitely be caused by 5G, some individuals will react much differently to it.

[pi3141]

An article today, puts the summer demonstrations down to 'racist violence'

 

Well done Tommy Robinson you f*cked a perfectly reasonable demonstration by the British public, allowing government to simply ignore the complaints of thousands of citizens.

 

We're all just racist now.

 

Elon Musk triggers ANOTHER row with Keir Starmer over race riots after being barred from UK business summit as Tories warn snubbing X owner could cost Britain a Tesla factory and thousands of jobs

 

Snip

 

n a blast at Sir Keir, the world's richest man urged people to stay away from the UK while it was 'releasing convicted paedophiles in order to imprison people for social media posts'.

 

The jibe appears aimed at the Government's decision to free prisoners early to jail those convicted after the racist violence

 

Link - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13894955/Elon-Musk-Keir-Starmer-race-riots-barred-UK-business-summit.html

[pi3141]

Race riots.

 

Were they though?

 

No they was not, they were a perfectly reasonable complaint from British public.

 

But now, it was just 'Race riots' and 'Racist violence'

 

The government line - 

 

The vast majority of British public are not racist and therefore it's right the government continue with immigration policy, it was all just a few bad apples, violent racist's, not really the British public, just a minority of racists inflaming hatred and violence. 

 

We will not be bullied by thugs and therefore bring on more boats, Britain is still open.

[pi3141]

It was mentioned in the thread about under cover police infiltrating groups.

 

Here's the level to which they go - 

 

The undercover copper who spied on Keir Starmer and seduced the activist the young Leftie lawyer was representing

 

Snip

 

And not the only one. Between 1968 and 2010, the SDS deployed 139 undercover officers to infiltrate and spy on more than 1,000 political, social and environmental groups and trade unions.

 

Today, the appalling scope, depth, darkness and deception of their operations continue to be revealed at the ongoing Undercover Policing Inquiry (UCPI).

 

This week, the SDS's reputation hit a new low when the inquiry learned that, as well as inveigling himself into the home, head and bed of Helen (and the trust of her co-defendant David), Dines also spied on their young barrister – a newly-qualified Keir Starmer – who was working pro bono to help them prepare their defence against mighty McDonald's.

 

So we now know how Dines, purporting to be Barker, would pick up Helen from legal meetings at Doughty Street Chambers in his van so he could talk through any confidential details of Starmer's defence arguments on the journey home – and feed them straight to his managers at Scotland Yard. 

 

Snip

 

Even more damagingly, the Guardian reported this week that any juicy details gleaned were allegedly shared with McDonald's, perhaps to help it win the case and defeat the activists.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13973255/undercover-copper-spied-keir-starmer-seduced-activist-mcdonalds.html

[pi3141]

On 9/26/2024 at 3:15 PM, pi3141 said:

An article today, puts the summer demonstrations down to 'racist violence'

 

Well done Tommy Robinson you f*cked a perfectly reasonable demonstration by the British public, allowing government to simply ignore the complaints of thousands of citizens.

 

We're all just racist now.

 

Elon Musk triggers ANOTHER row with Keir Starmer over race riots after being barred from UK business summit as Tories warn snubbing X owner could cost Britain a Tesla factory and thousands of jobs

 

Snip

 

n a blast at Sir Keir, the world's richest man urged people to stay away from the UK while it was 'releasing convicted paedophiles in order to imprison people for social media posts'.

 

The jibe appears aimed at the Government's decision to free prisoners early to jail those convicted after the racist violence

 

Link - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13894955/Elon-Musk-Keir-Starmer-race-riots-barred-UK-business-summit.html

 

 

Has anyone else seen this film?

 

The Hill (1965 film)


The Hill is a 1965 British prison drama war film directed by Sidney Lumet, set in an army prison in North Africa during the Second World War. It stars Sean Connery, Harry Andrews, Ian Bannen, Ossie Davis, Ian Hendry, Alfred Lynch, Roy Kinnear and Michael Redgrave. The screenplay was by Ray Rigby based on the 1965 play of the same name by Rigby and R.S Allen.

 

Plot
In a British Army glasshouse in North Africa, prisoners convicted of service offences such as insubordination, being drunk while on duty, going AWOL or petty theft are subjected to repetitive drill routines as a punishment in the blazing desert heat.

 

Snip

 

Meanwhile, with the help of two prison guard corporals, Staff Williams beats up Roberts in an empty solitary cell. Roberts suffers a broken foot and Harris gets him carried to see the medical officer. The RSM intervenes and orders Roberts to march despite his injury. King again protests, and after being subjected to racial abuse by the RSM, refuses to wear the uniform or acknowledge any form of army discipline.

 

The medical officer and Staff Sergeant Harris insist on reporting the abuses at the camp whilst the RSM and Williams join forces in an attempt to intimidate them into backing down. The injured Roberts is left alone in the cell and Williams remains behind. He then prepares to administer another beating to Roberts, when King and McGrath enter the cell, proceed to attack Williams, and beat him off-camera. Roberts pleads with them to stop, knowing that if prisoners beat up a prison officer, any case they may have had against him is lost.

 

 

These games they play, the tactics they use, they're ancient, very well known to people, so why do most people still keep falling for it ?

[78ast78dgyad]

Once again everyone on twitter now wants ethnic conflict.

 

This is one giant social experiment.

 

Every tweet they make is part of a complicated AI psychological algorithm, they are playing with people.

 

 

[cemeterycrow]

4 minutes ago, 78ast78dgyad said:

Once again everyone on twitter now wants ethnic conflict.

 

This is one giant social experiment.

 

Every tweet they make is part of a complicated AI psychological algorithm, they are playing with people.

 

 

It's becoming increasingly obvious now isn't it

 

Without the mass immigration we've seen in recent years and considering the information people now have access to there would be no way the current system could play out the objectives and agendas being forced on the population.

 

But of course that cannot be allowed to happen.

 

All sides are being triggered and radicalised because they brought them here for us to fight amongst ourselves and then they will provide the solution. 

 

Digital ID and tracking tech.

 

 

[Grumpy Owl]

On 1/3/2025 at 1:47 PM, 78ast78dgyad said:

Once again everyone on twitter now wants ethnic conflict.

 

Not necessarily 'ethnic conflict', just conflict in general.

 

On 1/3/2025 at 2:04 PM, cemeterycrow said:

It's becoming increasingly obvious now isn't it

 

Without the mass immigration we've seen in recent years and considering the information people now have access to there would be no way the current system could play out the objectives and agendas being forced on the population.

 

But of course that cannot be allowed to happen.

 

All sides are being triggered and radicalised because they brought them here for us to fight amongst ourselves and then they will provide the solution. 

 

Digital ID and tracking tech.

 

 

 

What's become increasingly obvious to me is that we're being geared up for another 'holy war'.

 

Left-wing apologists defending Islam/Muslims, while the right-wing is pushing Christianity. Now it's becoming apparent why much of the right-wing 'alternative media' is promoting and pushing Christianity.

 

No doubt that the opposite is happening in Middle-Eastern/Arabic countries, ie the 'non-Western' regions.

 

Both lobby groups, the opposite sides of the argument, are being controlled by the same people, ie Israel.

 

Another 'holy war' where Christianity and Islam end up destroying each other, thus fulfilling Biblical 'prophecies'. The end result? Hey, Chinese style communism.

 

No thanks, I'm not participating in this!

[pi3141]

Hamas issues call to arms against displacement as Israel orders new evacuations

Cairo (AFP) – A senior Hamas official urged supporters worldwide on Monday to take up weapons and fight plans to displace Gaza's people, as Israel issued a sweeping evacuation order in the territory's south, stepping up its renewed offensive.

 

In the face of this sinister plan -- one that combines massacres with starvation -- anyone who can bear arms, anywhere in the world, must take action," Sami Abu Zuhri said in a statement Monday.

 

"Do not withhold an explosive, a bullet, a knife, or a stone. Let everyone break their silence."

 

Link - https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250331-hamas-issues-call-to-arms-against-displacement-as-israel-orders-new-evacuations

 

Worldwide? Because Trump and the Americans want to do this to Gaza?

 

Oh OK then.

 

Religion of peace.

 

Let's see what happens. 

 

[pi3141]

Palestinians protest Hamas in a rare public show of dissent in Gaza

 

CAIRO (AP) — Thousands of Palestinians marched between the wreckage of a heavily destroyed town in northern Gaza on Wednesday in the second day of anti-war protests, with many chanting against Hamas in a rare display of public anger against the militant group.

 

The protests, which centered mainly on Gaza’s north, appeared to be aimed generally against the war, with protesters calling for an end to 17 months of deadly fighting with Israel that has made life in Gaza insufferable.

 

But protesters also leveled unusually direct and public criticism of Hamas, which has quashed dissent violently in the past in Gaza, a territory it still rules months into the war with Israel.

In the town of Beit Lahiya, where a similar protest took place Tuesday, about 3,000 people demonstrated, with many chanting “the people want the fall of Hamas.” In the hard-hit Shijaiyah neighborhood of Gaza City, dozens of men chanted “Out, out out! Hamas get out!”

 

'Our children have been killed. Our houses have been destroyed,” said Abed Radwan, who said he joined the protest in Beit Lahiya “against the war, against Hamas, and the (Palestinian political) factions, against Israel and against the world’s silence.”

 

Link - https://apnews.com/article/israel-palestinians-hamas-war-news-ceasefire-hostages-03-26-2025-ac541bac478575ca63e9a6da5d3133fc

 

 

[Dragon Slayer]

16 hours ago, pi3141 said:

Hamas issues call to arms against displacement as Israel orders new evacuations

Cairo (AFP) – A senior Hamas official urged supporters worldwide on Monday to take up weapons and fight plans to displace Gaza's people, as Israel issued a sweeping evacuation order in the territory's south, stepping up its renewed offensive.

 

In the face of this sinister plan -- one that combines massacres with starvation -- anyone who can bear arms, anywhere in the world, must take action," Sami Abu Zuhri said in a statement Monday.

 

"Do not withhold an explosive, a bullet, a knife, or a stone. Let everyone break their silence."

 

Link - https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20250331-hamas-issues-call-to-arms-against-displacement-as-israel-orders-new-evacuations

 

Worldwide? Because Trump and the Americans want to do this to Gaza?

 

Oh OK then.

 

Religion of peace.

 

Let's see what happens. 

 

Foundation being laid for false flag events aswell. 

[78ast78dgyad]

The problem with nationalism is that it is very superficial.

They say you need to be ethnically British, speak English and be culturally British.

 

I propose thinking bigger picture and realising why nations rise and fall.

Nations have a destiny, their destiny is foretold in astrology and the Earth's magnetic energy.

Nations develop a hive mind and self fulfilling prophecies.

Indigenous tribes believed that lands and certain peoples were cursed and they represented archetypal characters, like a mythological story.

They knew that Earth was a story and they knew everyone played a role in that story.

The West represents self-destruction and mind blindness.

The East represented patience and self sacrifice.

 

This is why "solving immigration" solves nothing.

A country exists like a virus in the mind.

 

This is real nationalism.