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22 hours ago, pi3141 said:

Pakistan student sentenced to death over 'blasphemous' WhatsApp messages

 

A court in Pakistan's Punjab Province sentenced a 22-year-old student to death for preparing photos and videos which contained alleged derogatory words about Prophet Muhammad and his wives.

 

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22-year-old student sentenced to death in Pakistan on blasphemy charges


17-year-old jailed for life in same case


Both accused deny charges, claim to be trapped in a false case

 

Source: India Today

 

 

Behold the religion of peace and tolerance that executes, stones women and kidnaps children to convert to Islam as well as using proven lies to brainwash their own children to hate and murder.

 

 

@shabbirss

 

With regards to your laughing reaction -

 

Isn't the story true?

 

Would a person not be executed in an some Islamic country's for apostasy or blasphemy?

 

Is it acceptable in your mind to execute non believers and blasphemer's?

 

Is it acceptable to stone women for some infractions, as we've seen Taliban do?

 

Is this funny to you?

 

Or is it all not true?

 

Western media lying again?

 

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On 3/8/2024 at 8:29 AM, Macnamara said:

The covid jabs are simply the latest in the string of crimes by the same cabal of people who are behind the central banks. If you look at my 'endocrine disrupting chemicals' thread in the 'health' section of this forum you will see the sheer quantity of toxic substances that are not naturally occurring but which have been added to every day goods manufactured by the large corporations that are owned by that cabal and you can see that a quiet war is being waged against us. Those chemicals affect the glands of the human body and have various effects which we are now seeing being reported such as gender bending, IQ lowering, sperm lowering, fertility lowering, cancer causing etc etc.

 

That 32 year old scot who dropped dead isn't just some poor chap who got dealt a bad hand in life in an isolated example of a health incident, he is a casualty in a war being waged against not only the british people but the people of the world by an occult cabal who are hellbent on global domination. Their prophecy is that they will achieve this global domination once they build a third temple and the messiah comes. I suggest that their messiah is the artificial intelligence which they are working on in israel to be at the centre of the technocracy being built across the west under the excuse of 'combatting climate change'. To build the temple they need to first remove the muslim mosque, the al aqsa which is on that site and it is the repeated raid of the mosque by israeli settlers which hamas claims is what has provoked their october attack on israel which they called 'operation al aqsa flood'. But the cabal behind israel, who also clearly have the states of britain and US by the balls won't stop raiding that site and are not going to rest until that mosque is rubble and a new temple is built. Who knows perhaps in the holy of holies they will house their artificial intelligence processing unit...

 

Now tell me their actions are not hateful

 

so lets tie all this into the conspiracy to create context within which to understand all of this...

 

The Ickes posted a clip of david and jaymie discussing how the cabal are pushing processed food onto humanity as a way to make us sick and weak and they spoke about the tactic of the fabian socialist society which was funded by the rothschilds. The aim of the fabians was to weaken their target enemy to such an extent that when they then took off the velvet glove and went in heavy handed to destroy their enemy it would be a cake-walk.

Ultra Processed Foods Are Killing Us – David Icke

https://davidicke.com/2024/03/06/ultra-processed-foods-are-killing-us-david-icke/

 

The rothschilds created israel. It is their personal fiefdom. The rothschilds also bankrolled jacob frank the sabbatean prophet who claimed to be the reincarnation of sabbati zevi the claimed messiah of sabbateanism. 

 

Israel is at the centre of the big tech web and the development of 5G and artificial intelligence. There is a reason why all the 'western' governments kowtow to israel and jeffrey epsteins dodgy network was all about blackmailing powerful people including politicians and royals by getting kompromat on them so that they could be blackmailed. Epstein was just the latest of those zionist spies and roy cohn was involved in that whole scheme along with the bronfmans before epsteins time. The reality is that most british politicians fall into line with the zionist enterprise because it has bribed and/or threatened them with kompromat or worse.

 

More and more of our data in britain is being sold to israeli tech firms and this will only increase their grip over britain.

How Cecil Rhodes Fathered the Modern Globalist Movement: a Timeline

Barbara McKenzie Uncategorized February 21, 2019

Driven by some of the wealthiest people of all time, a totalitarian one-world government by an elite, administered by the corporate-owned United Nations with the help of corporate owned NGOs, appears to be unstoppable.

The modern project for global governance by an elite goes back to Cecil Rhodes.

Cecil John Rhodes (5 July 1853 – 26 March 1902) was a British businessman, mining magnate and politician in southern Africa who served as Prime Minister of the Cape Colony from 1890 to 1896, and oversaw the foundation of Rhodesia.  One of Rhodes’ primary motivations in politics and business was his professed belief that the Anglo-Saxon race was, to quote his will, ‘the first race in the world’ (Wikipedia).

Secret Societies to Rule the World

1877 Cecil Rhodes writes at the age of 22 in a Confession of Faith :

‘Why should we not form a secret society with but one object the furtherance of the British Empire and the bringing of the whole uncivilised world under British rule for the recovery of the United States for the making the Anglo-Saxon race but one Empire.’

1887 Nathaniel Rothschild finances the establishment of De Beer mining company by Cecil Rhodes.

1888 In his third will, Rhodes leaves everything to ‘Lord Rothschild’, referring to ‘the matter discussed between us’. Several of Rhodes’ wills refer to secret societies, and to Lord Rothschild, but the final will sets out the terms for the Rhodes scholarships, administered by Rothschild. (The scholarships were intended to develop future leaders in the Rhodes mould)

1891 Cecil Rhodes, William Stead and Lords Esher, Rothschild, Salisbury, Rosebery and Milner drew up a plan for a secret society (the “Round Table”) that aims to bring all habitable portions of the world under their influence and control. (See New World Order: The Founding Fathers). The very next year,

1892 Baron Alphonse de Rothschild flies to New York for secret talks at the headquarters of Standard Oil, owned by John D Rockefeller (described here).

Cecil Rhodes’ Round Table led to the founding in 1921 of both the US-based Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and Chatham House in London, Bilderberg founded in 1954, the Club of Rome (1968) and the Trilateral Commission (1973).  All of these organisations are dedicated to global governance, and there is extensive overlap in terms of the principle players.  The same forces created the United Nations.

The League of Nations and the United Nations

See Henry Lamb’s fully referenced The Rise of Global Governance.

1920 Founding of League of Nations by Woodrow Wilson, advised by Edward Mandell House, who had close links with John D. Rockefeller, Paul Warburg and J.P. Morgan, both of whom  connected to the Rothschilds. (The League of Nations’ first undersecretary, Raymond B. Fosdick,  was president of the Rockefeller Foundation for 13 years.)  With the same adviser, or advisers, Wilson signed the Federal Reserve Bill (see The Federal Reserve Cartel.)

1920 The League of Nations fails when US Senate refuses to ratify it. The next year,

1921 The Royal Institute of International Affairs (RIIA, now Chatham House) in London, and the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in New York are founded with the financial backing of  J. P. Morgan, Bernard Baruch, Otto Kahn, Jacob Schiff, Paul Warburg, and John D. Rockefeller. (Schiff had links to Rothschild, Warburg and Morgan),

1932 Franklin D. Roosevelt is elected to the White House in 1932 (‘the CFR was to Roosevelt what Edward House was to Woodrow Wilson’, Henry Lamb). Two weeks after Pearl Harbor, Secretary of State Cordell Hull recommends the creation of a Presidential Advisory Committee on Post War Foreign Policy. Ten of the committee’s 14 members are members of the CFR.

1945 The Committee designed and FDR sold the United Nations to the 50 nations that came to the post-war San Francisco conference – there were 47 CFR members in the official U.S. delegation including John Foster Dulles and Nelson Rockefeller. John D. Rockefeller, Jr, donated a hefty $8 million dollars to buy the Manhatten site for the UN headquarters.

The United Nations has always been intended to be the mechanism by which global governance by a wealthy elite will be achieved.

According to Senator Barry Goldwater:

The Senate approved the UN largely because it was assured by the State Department that the UN in no sense constituted a form of World Government and that neither the Senate nor the American people need be concerned that the United Nations or any of its agencies would interfere with the sovereignty of the United States or with the domestic affairs of the American People.

Five years later, in testimony before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, CFR member James Warburg said ‘We shall have world government whether or not you like it –by conquest or consent’.

1949  NATO founded: according to CFR member and CIA Director William Bundy, the CFR was responsible for ‘contributions to the framework of thinking that underlay the Marshall Plan and NATO’ (Peter Grose, p.38).

New organisations have been founded with the same goals, i.e. all dedicated to achieving a one-world government:

1954 Bilderberg:  The CFR and Bilderberg then worked step by step towards the creation of the European Union (see Estulin’s True Story of the Bilderberg Group or Lendeman’s review.

1968 The Club of Rome – the heavy mob. It has two sibling organisations, the Club of Madrid and the Club of Budapest (see The Green Agenda: Club of Rome – Club of Budapest – Club of Madrid)

1973 Trilateral Commission, founded by David Rockefeller in order to bring together high ranking people politicians and business people from the US, Western Europe and Japan to plan one-world government.

The Club of Rome was likewise founded by David Rockefeller.   Its  members are actively and prominently engaged in activities which serve the globalist agenda, for example George Soros, a major sponsor of both colour revolutions and mass migration, and Bill Gates, a Malthusian heavily involved with the UN’s vaccination programme.

From its inception, the Club of Rome involved itself in crisis creation, playing a big part in the 1970s population scare, and exploring all the possibilities that first environmentalism and then ‘climate’ might offer.

‘The main purpose of the Club of Rome is to formulate crisis through which the world can be united under a world government.’ (Compleat Patriot).

Exploitation of the environmentalist movement, the idea of biodiversity taking precedence over the needs of humanity, and above all the wildly successful global warming scare, created and overseen by David Rockefeller, have allowed increased power to United Nations bureaucrats, and an ever-increasing role for corporate-owned non-government organisations.

1969 Paul Ehrlich publishes The Population Bomb

1971 Stockholm Earth Summit, organised by Rockefeller agent Maurice Strong

1977 David Rockefeller launches the Global Warming Scare

See Barbara McKenzie, ‘David Rockefeller Created and Drove the Global Warming Scare to Achieve One-World Government’

“In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. In their totality and in their interactions these phenomena do constitute a common threat which demands the solidarity of all peoples.” – Alexander King & Bertrand Schneider, The First Global Revolution (Club of Rome, 1991, p. 115).

See also :

You’ve Heard of John D Rockefeller But You’ll Never Guess Where His Father Is Buried:  a close look at the Rockefeller family.

The NWO Globalist Agenda has details on the differents branches of the Round Table. Likewise Wikipedia and their home pages, which cast a rosier light on their activities.

https://stovouno.org/2019/02/21/how-cecil-rhodes-fathered-the-modern-globalist-movement-timeline/

 

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10 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

How Cecil Rhodes Fathered the Modern Globalist Movement: a Timeline

 One of Rhodes’ primary motivations in politics and business was his professed belief that the Anglo-Saxon race was, to quote his will, ‘the first race in the world’ (Wikipedia).

 

just to bring some perspective to this it is worth noting that cecil rhodes was a freemason which rabbi wise said was judaism for the gentiles.

 

Clearly he was just a front man for the rothschilds who are not anglo-saxons and neither are the other co-conspirators mentioned in that article such as the rockefellers, warburgs etc.

 

To give you an example of how the sabbatean-jews, who are behind zionism, wokeism AND the push for world government hide behind different groups eg christians, muslims, jews or 'anglo-saxons' lets consider their creation of another diamond company in south africa. The rothschilds not only funded the de beers diamond company into being where cecil rhodes acted as their frontman (JP Morgan did the same job for them in banking) but that network also created 'anglo-american plc' except when you look at its owners/founders you can see that they aren't 'anglo' at all they are jewish: Ernest Oppenheimer and Alfred Beit

 

But of course they are not going to call their company 'sabbatean-jew plc' so instead they employ deception just as they did when they created the federal reserve bank which is neither federal because it is a cartel of private banks in partnership with the treasury department nor is it a 'reserve' as it doesn't have anything on reserve. So they mask themselves and you have to dig below the surface and when you do: there they are.....the same old people upto the same old tricks

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On 3/9/2024 at 2:29 AM, pi3141 said:

Cast a spell on the forum'

 

Lol.

 

why post an eye out of context on a conspiracy forum where everyone knows that a commonly used symbol of the illuminati is an eye? so i don't think my question was that unreasonable

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14 hours ago, pi3141 said:

 

 

@shabbirss

 

With regards to your laughing reaction -

 

Isn't the story true?

 

Would a person not be executed in an some Islamic country's for apostasy or blasphemy?

 

Is it acceptable in your mind to execute non believers and blasphemer's?

 

Is it acceptable to stone women for some infractions, as we've seen Taliban do?

 

Is this funny to you?

 

Or is it all not true?

 

Western media lying again?

 

 

these are all extremist things which i do not support, which nobody with a level head can support, but

regarding pakistan,afghanistan,etc they have their own laws, which their people have to follow,
if they do not wish to follow those laws they can simply move to another country.

 

but making this a personal attack or trying to? is deviating from truths being exposed in this thread specifically to israel

hence my laughing reaction when you commented on other countries, taking us all over the world and away from the topic of israel

 

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"...it's easy to put a truck bomb, as we did..[...err, oops...] was done, in London..." (1:08 of clip). Mossad talking head interviewed by a "news" Deceptibot.

 

 

Who's "we", huh? 

 

 

 

 

And the question still remains: WHO BENEFITS? WHO BENEFITS!?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

HOLOHOAX

COVIDHOAX

 

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Clear evidence of insanity, kind of like recognizing the USSR as a legitimate nation and government back in the earlier 20th century.

 

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Everything in this post is on topic, the topic is "support of "israel".  Everything "israel' has been a part of is representative of what "israel" is, what they've done and what they're doing, and how and why is necessary information to decide whether they are worthy of "support".

 

 

"israeli" change agent in Europe:

Who are they bringing in to Europe? Is it the muslims/Arabs/Africans you're so fearful of?

 

 

WHOS RUNNING THE SHOW?

 

Do you really think Netanyahu and company gives a sh-t about a few thousand little "jews" being sacrificed for the bigger agenda?

 

False Flag all the way, no way they didn't know, facilitate and allow the "attack".

 

Do you think your government cares about you? There might be 1 or 2 individuals in it, but they are neutralized or eliminated if they were to have any real effect. You and everyone else is expendable to them. All the governments of the world are self-serving cancerous entities. 

 

 

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On 3/10/2024 at 4:43 PM, shabbirss said:

these are all extremist things which i do not support, which nobody with a level head can support, but regarding pakistan,afghanistan,etc they have their own laws, which their people have to follow,
if they do not wish to follow those laws they can simply move to another country.

 

Do you consider Hamas extremists?

 

Would Hamas execute for apostasy or blasphemy?

 

 

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On 3/10/2024 at 2:19 PM, Macnamara said:

 

why post an eye out of context on a conspiracy forum where everyone knows that a commonly used symbol of the illuminati is an eye? so i don't think my question was that unreasonable

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No not unreasonable but as Shabbirss has pointed out takes the discussion away from the thread - Israel.

 

And as you have asked me that question before, and I have explained it to you before, then although it's not an unreasonable question, it is pointless, unnecessary and derails the thread.

 

Was it another 'Macnamara who asked me before or something?

 

Shift change to a different agent?

 

Or you just forgot?

 

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6 hours ago, pi3141 said:

 

Do you consider Hamas extremists?

 

Would Hamas execute for apostasy or blasphemy?

 

 

 

as i said before... (refer to screenshot attached)

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hamas would kill anyone who is not line with their goal (which is helping israel expand its borders)
- this includes their own people eg : killing the fighters of fatah who were under yassir arafat and ready and willing for a
peaceful 2 state solution over there

-this includes killing and terrorizing the people of gaza to establish their own "authority" - which is against the palestinian authority.

 

 

 

listen carefully to this speech by this saudi prince condemning both israel and hamas for their actions...

- condemning hamas for undermining the palestinian authority
- condemning hamas for giving israel an excuse to attack gaza
- condemning hamas for their acts of terror against innocent israelis (this goes completely against islamic rules of war)

-condemning israels indiscriminate bombing of innocent civilians in gaza
- condemning israel for forcibly trying to drive the gazans into the sinai
- condemning israel for stealing palestinian lands,
-condemning israel for funneling money from Qatar to hamas
hamas - the terrorist group as defined by israel...

 

if hamas was truly your enemy, would you help them out by funneling money to them???

 

 

 

 

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On 3/12/2024 at 9:02 AM, pi3141 said:

No not unreasonable but as Shabbirss has pointed out takes the discussion away from the thread - Israel

 

really? then why is this pyramid with an eye at the top in israel?

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really? then why is this pyramid with an eye at the top in israel?

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It's not really in Israel, it's in America, and it's HUGE. As you know, on our Flat Earth we can see far, far away!

 

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

really? then why is this pyramid with an eye at the top in israel?

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Your so confusing, why do I post using an eye on an Israeli thread, out of context, then you inform I use an Israeli symbol on an Israeli thread!

 

So it's not out of context!

 

My God, anything to deflect.

 

So I'm going to go back and look for all unanswered questions you failed to respond to -

 

Do you think British soldiers attack civilians and use sexual or degrading violence on civilians, as well as kidnapping civilians?

 

Do you think teaching children to hate, using fake documents and fraudulent information?

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On 3/3/2024 at 8:55 PM, pi3141 said:

Do you believe the article you posted that stated, as fact, that there was 'no rape' on October 7th attack?

 

Did you fall for it Mac?

 

On 3/3/2024 at 8:58 PM, Macnamara said:

because i never claimed that

 

what i'm saying is that many claims have been made about that day that are now being questioned and i suggest that what has occurred is the same process that has occurred before many wars which is the dehumanising of the enemy that is about to be attacked alongside a wave of propaganda aimed at galvanising public opinion behind the state violence that is about to be unleashed upon civilian populations as well as militaries

 

if anyone cares about the truth then these things should ALWAYS be questioned

 

On 3/3/2024 at 9:13 PM, pi3141 said:

You posted an article claiming there was no rape on October 7th.

 

You called for the perpetrators to be prosecuted for treason.

 

But now you say you didn't claim there was no rape.

 

Why the hell did you post an article, with that claim, then add your agreement to it by calling for treason, only now to deny it?

 

🤔

 

On 3/5/2024 at 11:47 PM, pi3141 said:

Oh, do you think British soldiers use sexual violence once 'that war-door' gets kicked open?

 

On 3/9/2024 at 12:06 AM, pi3141 said:

Do you know of any other group that uses fake stories, like Protocols of Zion, to brainwash their children to hate.

 

Do you know of any other religion that claims its a religious duty to kill?

 

What other Armies have openly attacked and kidnapped civilians?

 

 

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15 hours ago, pi3141 said:

 

Your so confusing, why do I post using an eye on an Israeli thread, out of context, then you inform I use an Israeli symbol on an Israeli thread!

 

So it's not out of context!

 

My God, anything to deflect.

 

So I'm going to go back and look for all unanswered questions you failed to respond to -

 

Do you think British soldiers attack civilians and use sexual or degrading violence on civilians, as well as kidnapping civilians?

 

Do you think teaching children to hate, using fake documents and fraudulent information?

 

quite a lot to unpack there!

 

So you want me to speak about british military involvement? Ok but if i do that then don't accuse me of 'derailing' your thread

 

But firstly going back to the eye issue and its relevance to israel.

 

I have been VERY clear about what i'm talking about which is to say a conspiracy by a heretical branch off of judaism called sabbateanism which subscribes to a particular form of kabbalah called LURIANIC KABBALAH. Far from being 'anti-semitic' this in fact PROTECTS jews in general because i am not implicating them in this. In fact i see many brave and honest jews whose efforts i celebrate for example prof norman fenton who is a signatory to andrew bridgens letter that has just been submitted to the head of the british police force (or was it the head of the MET specifically? I would need to check that)

 

If i was 'anti-semitic' and therefore hated someone just because they were a semite then i would make no such distinctions. So that charge is false.

 

What makes this issue difficult is that sabbateans don't usually pin their colours to the mast, so to speak, but rather mask themselves behind others so that those others then get the blame.

 

So whereas lurianic kabbalah is a religious position, and freemasonry is a magical position (ceremonial magic) marxism is an ideological position so these things are all different layers to the onion which means that the situation is further complicated.

 

So lets try and simplify that a little. I believe that the ideology of marxism was created by the sabbateans. It preaches a 'materialist conception of history' and demands that its adherents dismiss all religion as mere superstition. However if the people who created marxism are in fact themselves lurianic kabbalists then the steering arm of marxism is in fact religious.

 

Now to further complicate that it appears that 'illuminism' which is to say the sabbatean, lurianic kabbalists have control over wider freemasonry.

 

This means that the steering arm of the ideology of marxism and all of the things it then creates and controls including marxist feminism, climate activism, identarianism, critical race theory, critical theory etc is actually being steered by a religious cabal who have their own religious agenda.

 

It also means that freemasonry and all of the things that it creates and controls including offshoot occult groups and new ageism is being steered by a religious cabal with their own religious agenda

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So to further answer the questions the thread starter has directed at me:

 

The significance of a freemasonic pyramid with eye being situated in a public place in israel where the rothschilds have streets named after them and where they designed and paid for the knesset building and where the rothschilds in fact created the state of israel through their private agreement with freemason and fellow roundtable group member arthur balfour, through the balfour declaration we can then consider the fact that the rothschilds are illuminised freemasons, which is to say sabbatean, lurianic kabbalists.

 

When we understand that lurianic kabbalah is a supremacist doctrine that at its core believes in a prophecy that its adherents are expected to ACTIVELY fulfill and that the prophecy is that a third temple must be constructed on temple mount so that the messiah may come to bring in the messianic age. The messianic age, in turn, will see the messiah elevate the sabbateans to a position of master over the rest of humanity who will be their slaves.

 

Now clearly this is a repugnant idea and like all repugnant ideas must be challenged

 

Are we not for example regularly told to challenge the idea of national socialism that existed in germany in the 1930's?

 

However when you DO challenge the repugnant idea something very interesting happens. Suddenly you come under attack and are called all kinds of nasty names. The british state is actually moving to criminalise any discussion of the repugnant idea. Now how can this happen?

 

It can happen because of what i explained in my previous post. So lets re-cap: the ideology of marxism and everything it controls like for example the labour party and freemasonry and everything it controls including the british judiciary, police and military are all steered by the illuminised sabbatean cabal that now controls those things.

 

This means that when you expose the activities of that cabal they are able to mobilise all of these things they control against you

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So the second point was relating to the british military.

 

Where to even begin with that? Lets take iraq for example where the US sold slant drilling technology to the kuweitis who then drilled diagonally under the border of their neighbour iraq and started stealing the oil from under iraq. The iraqi economy was largely dependent on oil so this was a disaster for the iraqis who had to watch their natural resource being stolen and then sold on the cheap to the usual suspects.

 

So iraq asked the americans if they would do anything if iraq took action against kuweit. The americans said it was none of their business so the iraqis rolled into kuweit to shut down the slant drilling. Immediately a propaganda machine sprung into action in 'the west'. A woman claiming to be a nurse from kuweit stood up in front of congress and made a tearful speech claiming that the iraqis were taking babies out of incubators in kuweit. The western corporate media then made a big fuss about this and started banging the drums of war. However it turned out that the woman wasn't a nurse at all but was in fact the daughter of the kuweiti ambassador to the US and the story was made up to demonise the iraqis.

 

The US and brtish then rolled into iraq and obliterated the iraqi column as it tried to leave kuweit killing all the retreating iraqi soldiers. The british and americans then peppered iraq with radioactive depleted uranium munitions which caused cancers and horrific deformations in babies that were subsequently born. They also dropped cluster bombs which would then sometimes be picked up by curious children who would be blown to bits.

 

The US and UK soldiers were themselves injected with cocktails of drugs that were claimed to protect them from the nerve agents saddam had been sold to from the british and americans themselves back when they had pretended to be friends with saddam because they encouraged saddam to fight iran in a destructive war. Many of those soldiers then developed 'gulf war syndrome'.

 

Now the 'left' always argued that this war was entirely about oil and certainly oil was a factor. However its worth noting that although it was the republican 'right' party that waged war for the US it was the labour party 'left', under tony blair that took britain into that war so both 'left' and 'right' were in lockstep together. Now how can that be? Well lets recap what was said in the posts above: everything controlled by marxism and freemasonry is, at the top, steered by the sabbatean cabal.

 

This means that the cabal is a puppet master that controls both the 'left' hand AND the 'right' hand of the 'two party system' which itself is a perversion as it goes against the british constitution as explained by the activist ben greene in his book 'The British Constitution and the Corruption of Parliament'

 

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2 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

Now the 'left' always argued that this war was entirely about oil and certainly oil was a factor.

 

am i saying that the war was not about oil? No clearly oil was a factor in the whole equation but the agitation in the middle east did not stop with the two iraq wars.

 

Many countries have come under attack and experienced 'regime change' efforts so what else might be going on?

 

The YINON plan was an israeli plan to destabilise the middle east to pave the way for israeli expansion. This then ties into the sabbateans prophecy which requires israel to be extended beyond its current borders to form the 'greater israel' mentioned in the bible. The conflict in gaza which is driving gazans off that land can be seen within this context

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17 hours ago, webtrekker said:

It's not really in Israel, it's in America, and it's HUGE. As you know, on our Flat Earth we can see far, far away!

 

no its in eilat in israel : 'The Freemasons Circle' of Solomon's Pillars Lodge No. 59 in Eilat, Israel.

 

leave me out of the whole flat earth thing

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@Macnamara

 

Gosh, so much text and yet I still don't know your answers to my questions, so I'll have to draw conclusions.

 

Regarding the 'Eye in the Pyramid' it was actually a pointless distraction, you claim its out of context but then explain that as this thread is to do with Israel its not out of context, so a pointless distraction.

 

Did you know the symbol for the eye is used in many cultures as a good luck charm and to ward off evil spirits and negativity? 

 

Nazar

An eye bead or naẓar (from Arabic ‏نَظَر‎ [ˈnaðˤar], meaning 'sight', 'surveillance', 'attention', and other related concepts) is an eye-shaped amulet believed by many to protect against the evil eye. The term is also used in Azerbaijani, Bengali, Hebrew, Hindi–Urdu, Kurdish, Pashto, Persian, Punjabi, Turkish and other languages.

 

Amulet
A typical nazar is made of handmade glass featuring concentric circles or teardrop shapes in dark blue, white, light blue and black, occasionally with a yellow/gold edge.[9] "The bead is made of a mixture of molten glass, iron, copper, water, and salt, ingredients that are thought to shield people from evil."[2]

"According to Turkish belief, blue acts as a shield against evil and even absorbs negativity."[2] In the Middle East and the Mediterranean,[10][11][12][13] "blue eyes are relatively rare, so the ancients believed that people with light eyes, particularly blue eyes, could curse you [one] with just one look. This belief is so ancient, even the Assyrians had turquoise and blue-eye amulets."[14]

 

Link - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazar_(amulet)

 

So I guess you don't know as much about mysticism and symbology as you project.

 

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British Soldiers

From the tone of your lengthy write up it seems you DO think British soldiers would attack civilians and take civilian hostages in the opening attack in a war.

You've described that the UK soldiers were drugged up and committed atrocities in Iraq, so I assume you believe British soldiers would behave in the same way as Hamas, and it seems you make no distinction between British soldiers and Hamas, also you didn't outright deny that British soldiers would commit war crimes.

 

So it seems you have a very low opinion of British soldiers. Well I disagree with that position, I think our soldiers are way different to Hamas terrorist organization, I'm not a military historian but I don't know of any attack by British soldiers that deliberately targeted civilian's in the opening act of a war.

 

Please provide evidence of British soldiers openly attacking and brutalising civilians in the opening of a war theatre, as this was the original question I asked you.

 

So from your replies it seems you support Hamas, their attack on Israel, and you are indifferent to their crimes and aggression towards civilians.

 

Thanks for clearing that up. I would say there are many people that are appalled at what Hamas did, but I know there are many extremists that support Hamas and I suppose your one of them. Well I'm not and I think what Hamas did was an atrocity. So we disagree on that.

 

 

 

 

 

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