Israel: To Support, Or Not

[pi3141]

AI Question 

 

Who Owns The Biggest Oil Companies. 

 

Answer

 

Public Investment Fund (PIF) are the primary owners of the world's largest oil company, Saudi Aramco. The company tops the industry by market capitalization and production volume. 

Ownership of Saudi Aramco
While Saudi Aramco is a publicly traded company on the Saudi Exchange (Tadawul), the vast majority of the company is held by the state. 

Government of Saudi Arabia: The state directly holds about 82% of the company.

Public Investment Fund: The kingdom's sovereign wealth fund, the PIF, and its subsidiaries hold a 16% stake.

Public trade: Only a small fraction of shares (about 2.4%) is available for public trading. 

Other major oil companies and their owners

In contrast to state-owned giants like Saudi Aramco, other large oil companies are investor-owned and publicly traded on stock exchanges.

ExxonMobil: As a publicly traded company, ExxonMobil is owned by its shareholders. Its largest institutional investors include Vanguard Group, BlackRock, and State Street Corp.

Shell: Similarly, Shell is publicly traded and owned by its stockholders. Major institutional investors like Vanguard Group, BlackRock, and Norges Bank hold significant stakes.

PetroChina: While publicly listed, PetroChina's controlling shareholder is the state-owned China National Petroleum Corporation (CNPC), giving the Chinese government ultimate ownership. 

 

 

To me, it looks like instability in the Oil Region benefits the Saudi's, the West and China and Russia. 

 

[Screamingeagle]

12 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

would say it was done for the benefit of the oil companies and the west. Not for Israel's benefit.

 

It was done for the benefit of the rulers 

 

13 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

One question

it doesn't matter what religion they were 

the plan would be pushed through ,even if they were hobits 

 

Israled gave stand down order for a reason...

 

problem ,reaction, solution 

[pi3141]

3 minutes ago, Screamingeagle said:

t doesn't matter what religion they were 

the plan would be pushed through ,even if they were hobits 

 

Israled gave stand down order for a reason...

 

problem ,reaction, solution 

 

Thats right, it doesn't matter what religion they are.

 

What matters is the people doing it can be twisted mentally to murder, torture and rape.

 

It doesn't matter who's pulling the strings.

 

What matters is that these people are capable of doing these atrocious acts.

 

Those people, are Muslim.

 

If I was ordered to kill, torture or  rape for my government or religion, I would refuse. 

 

These people don't. 

 

The reason for that, is their religion.

 

That religion is Islam.

 

The instability in the region benefits the Saudi Kingdom and Western countries. 

 

I think China and Russia are quite happy with the situation as well.

 

Because they also profit.

 

[pi3141]

[pi3141]

 

 

 

 

[Screamingeagle]

24 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

 

It doesn't matter who's pulling the strings

 

yes it does ,i guess i'll end the discusion here 

(the above implies to me  that you support official narratives one way or another)

[pi3141]

The small South-East Asian nation of Brunei has come under heavy international criticism since it introduced Islamic law which includes the death penalty for homosexuality. It is, however, only one of many nations which still criminalise in various ways consensual same-sex relationships.

How has Brunei changed its laws on homosexuality?

Brunei, a Muslim-majority former British protectorate in south-east Asia with a population of about 400,000, has started to implement laws that punish homosexuality with death by stoning.

 

The new law was announced by the Sultan of Brunei, Hassanal Bolkiah, one of the world’s richest leaders, who has held the throne since 1967. He described the implementation of the new penal code as “a great achievement”.

 

Link - https://religionmediacentre.org.uk/factsheets/brunei-and-same-sex-persecution/

 

 

I'm not Gay, currently don't know any gay people. I have worked with gay people, and a couple of school friends came out as gay. 

 

But I think this ideology is barbaric, anti life and anti god.

 

Brunei is not ISIS or Hamas, it's relatively mainstream Islam.

 

This IS an Islamic belief.

 

So if a terrorist organisation commands it's soldiers to kill gay people, or Jews, it's already in Islamic ideology that it is righteous to do so and there is no sin killing a gay person, a Jew, or a non believer, be they atheist or just non Muslim.

 

It is not a sin to groom and gang rape a non believer minor.

 

Its their ideology. 

 

There is NO WAY I would ever defend these peoples actions.

 

 

[pi3141]

1 minute ago, Screamingeagle said:

(the above implies to me  that you support official narratives one way or another)

 

See my above post.

 

I don't not necessarily support mainstream narratives.

 

I absolutely oppose evil, evil ideology and any anti life or supremacist ideology.

 

I despise religions.

 

But sometimes you have to make a judgement call on what you will allow or are prepared to accept in this world.

 

Global Islamic state under Sharia Law is NOT something I will ever accept.

 

Its seems funny to me that anyone would think the Jews would promote, instigate or support an ideology that calls for their total destruction and a Global Islamic State.

 

 

[cosmicinaudio]

1 hour ago, pi3141 said:

Brunei, a Muslim-majority former British protectorate in south-east Asia with a population of about 400,000, has started to implement laws that punish homosexuality with death by stoning.

 

 

I've seen lefties try to blame homophobic laws in former British colonies on Britain, and say that homophobia is a British invention. I've seen them claim that homophobia didn't exist in places like India and Uganda until the British arrived and that their anti-gay laws and attitudes are due to British influence.

 

Most lefties will never acknowledge that many non-white countries have barbaric attitudes and policies towards gays, they just turn it round that it's our fault.

[wagdog19]

It's all about fuc£ing people up, and dancing to the destruction. 

 

 

[wagdog19]

I implore everybody on this forum to watch Tadhg Hickey, Irish writer and comedian, tell viewers how he and many others were treated by Israeli authorities after they were kidnapped in International waters delivering aid. 37.00 mins in. I know Galloway is not everyone's cup of tea, but this dialogue from his guest is powerful stuff. I believe every word 100%. Many of the people rounded up and imprisoned were 'famous, privileged with public platforms', to quote. It's a shocking testament.

 

 

[pi3141]

55 minutes ago, wagdog19 said:

I implore everybody on this forum to watch Tadhg Hickey, Irish writer and comedian, tell viewers how he and many others were treated by Israeli authorities after they were kidnapped in International waters delivering aid. 37.00 mins in. I know Galloway is not everyone's cup of tea, but this dialogue from his guest is powerful stuff. I believe every word 100%. Many of the people rounded up and imprisoned were 'famous, privileged with public platforms', to quote. It's a shocking testament.

 

 

 

Seriously, this is the dumbest thing.

 

1) There is aid going in, there are channels to put aid through.

 

2) Sailing or travelling into a war zone is a stupid and irresponsible thing to do.

 

3) Are you surprised the authorities are annoyed at civilians sailing into a war zone.

 

4) Are you surprised the authorities are annoyed they are trying to give aid to their enemy.

 

Thats not even going in to Hamas stealing aid etc.

 

Honestly, this stunt, and Greta's stunt was dumb as f*ck.

 

 

Has anyone tried to fly to Ukraine with a suitcase full of cash as 'Aid' for the Russian supporters in Ukraine, like in Donesk?

 

No?

 

Why?

 

Cos it would be a f*cking dumb thing to try and do.

 

But, get the media involved call it a 'Freedom Flotilla' and obviously you know the authorities won't let you go in, if nothing more it's a safety nightmare, if Greta had been kidnapped her government would be screaming blue murder and Hamas would have huge political leverage. 

 

I mean for Christ's sake am I the only one who sees how absolutely f*cking dumb and pointless these stunts are?

 

Christ.

 

 

[wagdog19]

1 hour ago, pi3141 said:

 

Seriously, this is the dumbest thing.

 

1) There is aid going in, there are channels to put aid through.

 

2) Sailing or travelling into a war zone is a stupid and irresponsible thing to do.

 

3) Are you surprised the authorities are annoyed at civilians sailing into a war zone.

 

4) Are you surprised the authorities are annoyed they are trying to give aid to their enemy.

 

Thats not even going in to Hamas stealing aid etc.

 

Honestly, this stunt, and Greta's stunt was dumb as f*ck.

 

 

Has anyone tried to fly to Ukraine with a suitcase full of cash as 'Aid' for the Russian supporters in Ukraine, like in Donesk?

 

No?

 

Why?

 

Cos it would be a f*cking dumb thing to try and do.

 

But, get the media involved call it a 'Freedom Flotilla' and obviously you know the authorities won't let you go in, if nothing more it's a safety nightmare, if Greta had been kidnapped her government would be screaming blue murder and Hamas would have huge political leverage. 

 

I mean for Christ's sake am I the only one who sees how absolutely f*cking dumb and pointless these stunts are?

 

Christ.

 

 

You have not watched the video. I will post a short for you, try and concentrate for at least 2 minutes. LISTEN to his testimony. Your comments have some validity, accepted; but stop deluding yourself. The Israeli government is worse than any South African cabinet ever was during apartheid. It's lawless, subhuman, and acts with impunity because of the blackmail evidence it possesses on almost EVERYBODY in power. Fact.

 

[pi3141]

12 hours ago, wagdog19 said:

You have not watched the video. I will post a short for you, try and concentrate for at least 2 minutes. LISTEN to his testimony. Your comments have some validity, accepted; but stop deluding yourself. The Israeli government is worse than any South African cabinet ever was during apartheid. It's lawless, subhuman, and acts with impunity because of the blackmail evidence it possesses on almost EVERYBODY in power. Fact.

 

 

No I didn't watch it.

 

I skipped through it.

 

At the end of the day, any civilians who want to go to any war zone.- 

 

IT'S A DUMB IDEA!

 

any civilians visiting any war zone, you cannot complain how you was treated, you should be thankful if you get out alive.

 

Its just f*cking dumb. 

 

Period.

 

 

[pi3141]

Suppose I want to go to front line in Russia, for whatever reason, I want to take aid.

 

I can't fly to Ukraine, why?

 

Because they are at WAR!

 

So I fly to Poland, I make my way across the border and start journeying to the front line. If I meet Ukrainian soldiers along the way, they will stop and ask me, 'what you doing, where you going'

 

'Oh I'm taking chocolate bars for the Russian children under siege'

 

Probably one of 3 thing will happen.

 

The commander will think 'f*cking do good idiot doesn't know what he's doing' and order one of his men to escort me to safety.

 

Or having come fresh from the battlefield where some of his men have died he gonna think 'this f*cking twat' and he's gonna order one of his men to drag me to safety and he won't care how its done.

 

Or I just get a bullet in my head and save everyone the trouble.

 

Unless I go to Russia?

 

I arrive at Russia airport with boxes of chocolates and they gonna think - 'who the hell is this guy' they are not gonna let me walk into their warzone. They will take the chocolate off me, thank me for my concern and put me straight on a plane back home. I may get hours of interrogation, the chocolate be tested to make sure its real.

 

Unless... It was arranged by Russia, and I just played along for PR purposes, so then yeah Russia will help me, will make a big thing about it to.

 

But then I'm just a PR tool for Russia.

 

So looking at this Freedom Flotilla and Greta Thunberg crap.

 

Either they are the dumbest f*cks in the world

 

OR

 

its been arranged by Hamas and this comedian and Greta are just PR tools for a Terrorist organization.

 

I personally think this Irish comedian and Greta Thunberg are tools, useful idiots paid for by Hamas. So I don't care how they got treated.

 

I also thinks any civilian trying to gain access to a warzone is one of the dumbest f*cks in the world.

 

I watched a video as some activists tried to enter Palestine by land. The IDF soldiers at first was like 'ok guys, you can't go in there, please stop' until the activists push through the barriers and refuse to stop.

 

Now its different, they were putting him and themselves in danger, they are directly confronting the soldier and putting him, charged with guarding the gate, on the spot.

 

He has to act. Its not going to be pleasant, they ignored requests, they are trying to illegally enter a war zone. He is supposed to be guarding the area.

 

He has every right to shoot them.

 

But he didn't.

 

He and the other soldiers did their best to keep the activists away, and that meant bundling them up and forcibly escorting them away.

 

They have no other choice.

 

Its a dumb idea and combine that with the fact it was funded by Hamas as a PR stunt - those people are just political tools, useful idiots, chasing fame.

 

 

I don't care how they got treated.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 9 by pi3141

[pi3141]

Greta Thunberg hasn’t got a clue about Israel – and here’s the proof

A typically holier-than-thou message about Israeli ‘cruelty’ was illustrated with an image of a man snatched by Hamas on Oct 7

 

Snip

 

Of course, Greta’s own voyage was most certainly not a holiday. She undertook it solely because of her passionate commitment to the Palestinian cause. But, while I wouldn’t dream of doubting her sincerity, I do fear there may be one or two gaps in her knowledge.

 

Earlier this week she shared a post on Instagram, designed to highlight “the suffering of Palestinian prisoners”. However, she seems not to have noticed that the post was illustrated with an image of Evyatar David: an Israeli man taken hostage by Hamas.

 

Showing him in the darkness of a tunnel, looking desperately emaciated, the image is a still, taken from a video released by Hamas this summer. In that video, he croaked: “I haven’t eaten for days... I barely got drinking water.”

 

He is also seen digging what he says will be his own grave.

 

As you can imagine, quite a lot of Instagram users replied to Greta’s post, telling her that this shows she hasn’t got a clue what she’s talking about. And I’m afraid they may have a point.

 

In which case, perhaps it’s time for dear Greta to think about switching to her next big cause. She’s already done climate change. What now? Gender identity? Fatphobia? Bring back the 10p Freddo?

 

Alternatively, she could just take a well-earned holiday.

 

Ideally somewhere nice and warm. Wouldn’t want to lose that lovely tan.

 

Source - Telegraph 

[wagdog19]

1 hour ago, pi3141 said:

Greta Thunberg hasn’t got a clue about Israel – and here’s the proof

A typically holier-than-thou message about Israeli ‘cruelty’ was illustrated with an image of a man snatched by Hamas on Oct 7

 

Snip

 

Of course, Greta’s own voyage was most certainly not a holiday. She undertook it solely because of her passionate commitment to the Palestinian cause. But, while I wouldn’t dream of doubting her sincerity, I do fear there may be one or two gaps in her knowledge.

 

Earlier this week she shared a post on Instagram, designed to highlight “the suffering of Palestinian prisoners”. However, she seems not to have noticed that the post was illustrated with an image of Evyatar David: an Israeli man taken hostage by Hamas.

 

Showing him in the darkness of a tunnel, looking desperately emaciated, the image is a still, taken from a video released by Hamas this summer. In that video, he croaked: “I haven’t eaten for days... I barely got drinking water.”

 

He is also seen digging what he says will be his own grave.

 

As you can imagine, quite a lot of Instagram users replied to Greta’s post, telling her that this shows she hasn’t got a clue what she’s talking about. And I’m afraid they may have a point.

 

In which case, perhaps it’s time for dear Greta to think about switching to her next big cause. She’s already done climate change. What now? Gender identity? Fatphobia? Bring back the 10p Freddo?

 

Alternatively, she could just take a well-earned holiday.

 

Ideally somewhere nice and warm. Wouldn’t want to lose that lovely tan.

 

Source - Telegraph 

I am going to turn around and walk away from this discussion with you. You are beyond help, and I pity your soul. You have been captured by the deceptive propaganda machine that infiltrates your unconscious psyche, your fears- "A shadow of his former self". I will not stoop so low and accuse you of being a paid influencer for the state of Iz Ra El. Time will tell who was on the right side of history. 

[pi3141]

5 minutes ago, wagdog19 said:

I am going to turn around and walk away from this discussion with you. You are beyond help, and I pity your soul. You have been captured by the deceptive propaganda machine that infiltrates your unconscious psyche, your fears- "A shadow of his former self". I will not stoop so low and accuse you of being a paid influencer for the state of Iz Ra El. Time will tell who was on the right side of history. 

 

Fine.

[pi3141]

Trump has moved mountains with the sheer force of his gargantuan personality. How puny and ridiculous Starmer now looks

 

Well, now we know the difference between serious statecraft and token virtue-signalling.

 

Donald Trump has provided a clear demonstration of leadership and hard power, using his mighty office and more importantly the sheer force of his gargantuan personality to move mountains and secure the release of Hamas’s hostages, which will hopefully end the Gaza war.

 

Keir Starmer and his fellow political pygmies - French president Emmanuel Macron, Canadian PM Mark Carney, along with the Spanish and Australian prime ministers Pedro Sanchez and Anthony Albanese – have had nothing to offer but performative gestures over the ‘recognition’ of a non-existent ‘Palestinian state.’

 

Trump’s critics call him a bully, venal and a megalomaniac.

 

But we too often ignore what is good about him. That solipsism, together with street smarts and shamelessness, give him a unique ability to smash through seemingly unbreachable obstacles to upend the status quo. In the Middle East, this has proved priceless. Polite, received opinion has insisted for decades that the Israel-Palestine conflict was unsolvable. But to Trump, that is only a spur to success.

 

We saw that in his first term when he negotiated the unprecedented Abraham Accords, through which Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates, Morocco and Sudan established diplomatic relations with Israel. While the deals were sidelined by the October 7 terrorist atrocity which plunged the Middle East into crisis, if this works, will truly cap it all.

 

Imagine if Joe Biden or Kamala Harris were still in office. Hamas felt emboldened every time Biden castigated Israel’s military strategy, particularly when the doddery premier called Benjamin Netanyahu’s plan to enter the southern city of Rafah a ‘red line’. The Israeli PM ignored him - and subsequently the operation proved hugely effective in driving out Hamas.

 

Trump has taken a very different approach, backing Israel to the hilt, understanding that Hamas had to realise it could not win if peace was to be secured. That, combined with the equally important decision to turn the screw on Qatar to rein in the terrorists of Hamas, has brought us to the imminent release of the remaining hostages.

 

And what a contrast, and potentially an end to this hideous conflict with our own prime minister. Sir Keir Starmer’s main contribution since taking office last July has been to treat Israel – our long-standing ally in the fight against Islamic terror – as some sort of recalcitrant enemy.

 

Cowed by a surging block of sectarian Muslim voters, Starmer has blocked certain arms exports to Israel, backed the International Criminal Court’s bizarre arrest warrant for Netanyahu, restored funding to UNWRA, the UN agency that employed some of the October 7 terrorists, and most recently rewarded Hamas for its despiciable massacre by recognising a Palestinian state.

 

How puny and ridiculous Starmer – and British statecraft – now look. While he rewarded Hamas, Trump, has secured near-universal support from Arab and Muslim states for a comprehensive plan to bring the war to an end and, if the next stages of his plan can be delivered, rebuild Gaza.

 

Link - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-15177251/Trump-moved-mountains-sheer-force-gargantuan-personality-puny-ridiculous-Starmer-looks.html

 

 

[pi3141]

Putting this here because in the video he mentions Gaza has Gas and Oil reserves. 

 

They were discovered decades ago. Kennedy family tried to broker a peace deal with it.

 

Political tide turned, the deal nor the reserves ever came to light.

 

I've told the story how I know about it before.

 

 

 

[pi3141]

Natural gas in the Gaza Strip

Reserves of natural gas were found offshore the Gaza Strip in the year 2000, within the framework of licensing to British Gas by the Palestinian National Authority.[1] The discovered gas field, Gaza Marine, though mediocre in size, had been considered at the time as one of the possible drives to boost Palestinian economy and promote regional cooperation.

 

From Wiki.

 

Not true. 

 

The Oil reserves were actually found in the 80's.

 

[pi3141]

Trump’s Gaza deal is the ultimate humiliation for the West’s woke Left

 

Starmer rewarded Hamas terrorism, but the US president’s robustness is bringing peace to the Middle East

 

This Gaza ceasefire deal is a prodigious diplomatic achievement for Donald Trump. It is a win for Israel, which gets much more and has been forced to concede less than any of its critics thought possible. The surviving October 7 hostages are set to be released on Monday or Tuesday. If the next phases of Trump’s deal work out even in part, the art of Western diplomacy will have been revitalised, courtesy of Trump.

 

But the happy news is an awkward development for Leftist anti-Zionism, which finds itself on the wrong side of history. The Greta-loving, keffiyeh-wearing activists who denounce Israel as evil and defend Islamist terrorism in the same breath have never looked more out of touch.

 

The deal and release of the hostages is also an embarrassment for Keir Starmer, Emmanuel Macron and all of those who stated their unconditional, premature recognition of a Palestinian state, a move which exposed them as posturers out of their depth, only made the real negotiations more difficult and demonstrated the geopolitical irrelevance of the fading European powers, including Britain.

 

The return of the hostages is a reminder of this war’s origins.

 

Hamas started this conflict when it committed the war crime of invading Israel, massacring civilians and taking others hostage. Their return is a vindication of Israel’s zero-tolerance attitude to terrorism, a stance that Western countries like to pay lip service to but are squeamish about in practice. Terrorism must never be allowed to triumph.

 

Trump’s ability to secure the release of the remaining Israeli hostages and broker a comprehensive ceasefire deal between two existential enemies is an achievement that cannot be denied even by his enemies. It proves the power of the president’s trademark “wrecking ball”, which treats diplomacy as a series of high-stakes commercial transactions. Trump’s ability to co-opt the support of many Arab and Muslim nations left Hamas with little option.

 

The president unilaterally declaring victory after Hamas submitted a response to his 20-point peace plan riddled with conditionalities and caveats was a stroke of genius. It is hard to understate what a personally instrumental role Trump has played in getting a deal, which would have likely eluded a more conventional American leader. His chances of securing the Nobel Peace Prize are now much higher, if not this year then next. If his peace deal is successful then it would mark a decisive shift from the conventions of multilateralism and soft persuasion towards transactional brinkmanship, and real Politik. 

 

Contrast this with the approach of Macron and Starmer. They simply rewarded terrorism. Trump’s robustness looks set to achieve peace.

 

There are big unresolved issues that could scupper hopes of lasting peace. While Israel will not sign a final deal unless Hamas disarms, the latter has managed to delay an agreement on this until the second phase of talks. It may in the end refuse to play ball.

 

Still, none of this should take away from the scale of the breakthrough.This ought to be a humbling moment for “anti-Zionist” Leftists – proponents of the omnicause – who have been opportunistically drawn to the tragic war. The Israel-Palestine conflict is to progressives what Vietnam was for the hippies – a convenient rack on which to hang their dizzying panoply of causes and hang-ups.

 

Still there is something particularly vacuous about today’s generation of activists. In this era when political views tend to be more an expression of identity than an articulation of a coherent position or principled belief, logic has become irrelevant. It’s how you end up with such absurdities as Queers for Palestine. Palestine has become a fashionable cause, with coffee-shop socialists lovingly pairing their keffiyeh scarves with their Vivienne Westwood Greenpeace T-shirts. The Palestine flag has come to serve the same function as a Birkin handbag or a Grind coffee cup – asserting one’s bourgeois status and affiliation to a tribe.

 

In the era of “fast slacktivism”, causes, like clothes, are disposable. First, in wake of the financial crash, it was the bankers and “the evil corporations”. Then when dreaming of a unifying socialist world vision “beyond neoliberalism” became too intellectually taxing the hard Left moved onto portending the climate apocalypse.

 

Then they immersed themselves in the whirling carnival of minority causes, showing “solidarity” with BLM and railing against “systemic racism”. After they tired of listening to slavery podcasts and sharing viral TikTok videos of “racist Karens” they moved onto slapping gender neutral stickers on women’s bathrooms and tweeting bile at JK Rowling.

 

It is hard to see what activists have achieved, apart from fuelling anti-Semitism in Britain and the West. Weekend marches have become hotbeds for anti-Jewish hatred, with people making genocidal “from the river to the sea” chants and spreading conspiracy theories. The boundary between legitimate scrutiny of the Israeli leadership and open hostility towards Jewish people has collapsed.

 

The aggression and simple-minded worldview of radical pro-Palestinians has proved self-defeating. The fact that Hamas is genocidal does not absolve Israel of all criticism. As the late Israeli novelist Amos Oz pointed out, what distinguishes the 77-year Israel-Palestine conflict – and makes it so difficult to resolve – is not that it’s a battle between right and wrong, but rather right and right: an ancient, deep and tragic Jewish right and an ancient, deep and tragic Palestinian right. But radical Leftists have fomented such a confrontational – and brain-dead – atmosphere in the public square that it is impossible to have a balanced discussion.

 

At last, we can dare to hope that a wretched two-year war that has claimed tens of thousands of lives could be coming to a close. The Middle East deserves peace and the families of the hostages deserve an end to their ordeal. Let’s hope radical-Left opportunists will soon have to find another cause.

 

Telegraph 

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[pi3141]

On 10/7/2025 at 11:47 AM, Screamingeagle said:

you support official narratives one way or another)

 

 

I'd just like to point out here, that what i posted below has never been part of the mainstream or official narrative. 

 

On 9/21/2025 at 9:58 PM, pi3141 said:

 

It's PDF so I got an AI summary. 

 

 

 

 

Then this happened. 

 

 

 

 

I'm posting info that oposes the official narrative. 

 

If I was following the official narratives I would be calling the war a genocide and I would be calling for a Palestinian state.

 

But I'm not.

 

So your assertion doesn't hold up.

 

 

[Jason57]

Ironically, Trump won't be given a Nobel Peace Prize. That was given to a genocidal maniac called Barack Obama lol.