Israel: To Support, Or Not

[Observations]

I noted earlier that within 3 ½ hours of the police arriving on the scene, there was a still image of the suspect, and also some video footage. On other occasions that takes some time to release? There was an appeal not to share mobile footage but to report it. There was also a mention that witnesses get confused with what they’ve seen, thinking they’ve seen something they haven’t … which sounded a bit suspicious. 

[Anti Facts Sir]

This has been a very neat and tidy operation. They can add anti-semitism into the boiling pot of "rising hate" and stir their nasty agenda just that bit more now. 

[Observations]

8 hours ago, cosmicinaudio said:

Stabbing outside a synagogue in Manchester, so they claim any way. Wonder what narrative they'll be pushing with this, pro-Palestine muslim jihadi or white nationalist, anti-semitic incel? Also surprised how quickly they say the attacker was shot dead, within a few minutes. Are the Jewish police units that patrol their areas allowed to carry guns?

I thought I’d quote your post here so that I can share with you a few quotes above from this morning’s news. I’ll clip out the guns and security guards part in a moment! 

[pi3141]

Suicide belt-wearing' Manchester attacker WAS an Islamist terrorist, it can be revealed

 

A knifeman who went on a 'barbaric' rampage slaughtering two people at a synagogue is an Islamist terrorist, it can now be revealed.

 

Snip

 

Speaking in Manchester tonight near the synagogue, Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood said she was 'horrified by the antisemitic terrorist attack'. 

 

'My prayers are with the victims and the families of all of those who are murdered here today,' she said. 

 

 

[pi3141]

Be surprised if we don't see a call for a vote of confidence in Parliament tomorrow. 

 

[pi3141]

Israel blames Starmer after synagogue terror attack

Suspect shot dead after killing two people in car and knife rampage at Yom Kippur service in Manchester

 

Snip

 

As news of the outrage spread, Gideon Sa’ar, the Israeli foreign affairs minister, issued a scathing statement blaming the British Government for allowing anti-Jewish hatred to take hold and flourish.

 

Posting on X, he wrote: “The truth must be told: blatant and rampant anti-Semitic and anti-Israeli incitement, as well as calls of support for terror, have recently become a widespread phenomenon in the streets of London, in cities across Britain, and on its campuses.

 

Snip 

 

But in what appeared to be a further criticism of Sir Keir, Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel’s prime minister, wrote on X: “As I warned at the UN: weakness in the face of terrorism only brings more terrorism. Only strength and unity can defeat it.”

 

At the United Nations, Mr Netanyahu addressed world leaders, including Sir Keir, who had just recognised a Palestinian state, telling them: “You can’t appease your way out of jihad, and you won’t escape the Islamist storm by sacrificing Israel. To overcome that storm, you have to stand with Israel. But that’s not what you’re doing.”

 

From Telegraph 

 

The name of the attacker was 'Jihad'

 

Jihad Al-Shamie

 

 

[pi3141]

The YK government has always had a strict policy regarding terrorists. 

 

We DO NOT negotiate with terrorists. 

 

Hamas is a terrorist organisation. 

 

Hamas is holding hostages. 

 

Under UK and International protocol, the UK should NEVER recognize a Palestinian state while they hold hostages. 

 

We DO NOT negotiate with terrorists. 

 

So what happened when Starmer recognized Palestine?

 

He did not call for the release of hostages as condition for recognizing the Palestinian state.

 

So there was no negotiating. 

 

He just recognised Palestine, while they hold hostages, without any conditions. 

 

This is a surrender to terrorism. 

 

This is a complete reversal or rather sell out of UK long standing policy.

 

He's legally trained, head of CPS, and here he is, without any conditions, accepting the terms set by terrorists. 

 

He has made comments that people are racist, far right thugs, he says we need to move towards decency.

 

Yet his version of decency is to smear and lie, pay protesters to skew media stories and accept terrorists demands without argument and to reverse decades of policy.

 

On his say so.

 

If you don't agree, your racist.

 

 

The hypocrisy of this government is truly astounding. 

 

On the upside, I think this will wake, and has woken, a lot of people. 

 

On Question Time an audience member asked about the government labeling protesters as Far Right.

 

The Government spokesperson did their best to avoid answering with the usual media speak. 

 

We got News presenters openly calling this out, and calling for Starmer to go.

 

Israel placing the blame for the attack directly at Starmer, our ever so moral PM who uses political dirty tricks and smear campaigns to silence opposition to his deranged ideology. 

 

He wants Angela Rayner back, he says she paid a hefty price.

 

As the Ex head of the Crown Prosecution, having found a government official fiddling taxes, thinks that after standing down for 1 month, the offender should be given their job back.

 

Can we ALL expect the same treatment?

 

If I fiddle taxes, should there be the appearance of justice and then i can carry on in my business as if nothing happened?

 

Thats how 'moral' this man is.

 

If it's true that Tony Blair's son is involved with the company managing the Digitsl ID, and Tony Blair, ex Labour PM who pushed for Digital ID, had indeed got shares in that company and stands to profit, that is a conflict of interest. 

 

If Tony Blair is in anyway involved financially in a Labour government run scheme, not only is it a conflict of interest it also Politicizes the scheme.

 

Blair can influence the company to be less helpful to opposition governments. 

 

If this is true, and Starmer pushes ahead, that again is an example of his morals, his inability to recognise simple decency, that giving billions of pounds and control to a Labour supporter and ex Politician who called for the exact same scheme.

 

It's like the Starmer telling us he's given the go ahead for a new runway and motorway widening scheme that his newly acquired concrete company will be supplying the concrete. 

 

It smacks of corruption and nepotism. 

 

Again, that's how 'moral' this man is.

 

Same with Tony Blair, if he had any morals, ge could recommend Digital ID if he believes it helps, but he would instruct any company he is directly involved with, from bidding or accepting the contract.

 

But from what I can see of the Left, they scream very loudly for something they know very little facts about, and any disagreeing response are met with personal smears 'racist' 'bigot' 'terf' because they simply have no grasp of the facts and little capacity to reason.

 

In an interview a Left wing lesbian was told if Hamas took over, she would be put to death. Her response was 'it doesn't matter, if that happened then I would consider it my turn to go, I support Hamas because it's the right thing to do'

 

Ok.

 

What about the other Lesbian's? 

 

Do they feel the same way?

 

And the Gays, and the Christians and Hindus and atheists and all the other Americans subjected to Islamic rule having their life's turned upside down?

 

Its the right thing to do and if all those people were executed alongside her, she would be telling them 'it's the right thing to do'

 

As i say, some of these people have no capacity to reason or think out their ideology.

 

Starmer is the same, as is Blair.

 

They think they are do morally superior they can do what they like.

 

Dangerous people.

 

[pi3141]

Starmer and our home secretary say if you don't want these people in this country you are racist, far right and not decent. 

 

 

Kurdish illegal immigrants in taxpayer-funded hotel are jailed for terrifying machete attack on shop owner as judge tells them: 'It is not what we are about in this country'

 

A gang of illegal immigrants who stormed a high street armed with machetes and brutally attacked a shop owner have been jailed.

Hana Hassan, 22; Yosef Shaban, 24; Osama Qadir, 21, and Dawan Mantik, 28 - all Kurds from Iran and Iraq - arrived in Britain on small boats.

 

The four were part of a larger mob of 12 who 'rallied the troops' after a dispute in a nightclub days earlier. 

They targeted fellow Kurd Kurwan Ali and his friends at his shop in Bournemouth, Dorset, in a 'ferocious and frighteningly violent attack', leaving one victim with life-threatening lung injuries.

 

At the time of the attack Hassan was living in the taxpayer-funded Britannia Hotel, which was the focal point of local protests over the summer. 

 

The hotel has been plagued with violent migrant residents. Last month a court heard asylum seeker Shkar Jamal, 24, threatened a man with a snooker cue outside the troubled hotel - before then skipping his sentencing hearing to eat fish and chips. 

 

In another incident, a drunken Turkish migrant staying at the Britannia stabbed a man with a broken bottle. Despite the attack - and accusations he was in a terrorist group in his home country - Halil Dal, 30, will not be deported from the UK.

 

Of the latest gang of migrants to be hauled into court, two of the men, Ahmed Omar and Rahel Omer, have already fled the country. 

 

As he jailed Hassan, Shaban, Qadir and Mantik for a combined 22 years, Judge Paul Dugdale said their behaviour was, 'not what we are about in this country'. 

 

Link - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15158751/Kurdish-illegal-immigrants-jailed-terrifying-machete-attack-shop-owner-judge-tells-not-country.html

 

 

Starmer accused me of being racist': Joyce who became centre point of PM's conference speech reveals what REALLY happened

 

Starmer credits her with sparking his realisation that the Left had 'got it wrong' on immigration. 

 

His anecdote about meeting retiree Joyce Todd became the centrepiece of his leader's speech at the Labour Party 

 

So it is little short of extraordinary that Mrs Todd's recollection of their 2015 meeting during canvassing in Oldham is so different to that of the Prime Minister's.

 

Because she insists that the meeting was actually so fraught that it lasted less than 15 minutes before she demanded that he got out of her house because he accused her of being a racist.

 

From the big questions around immigration down to trivial details such as whether or not she served him Rich Tea biscuits, 79-year-old Joyce is unequivocal.

 

'Keir Starmer is a liar,' she insisted in an exclusive interview. 'He still doesn't get it.'

 

Mrs Todd's elevation to the national stage, which took her by surprise, came after Sir Keir told the story on Tuesday of how an encounter with her ten years ago had made him rethink the party's attitudes to the increasingly difficult question of immigration.

 

'Soon after I became an MP, I went to Oldham for a by-election up there,' the PM recalled. 'I was taken to a street to meet a woman, who I was told had strong views on immigration.

 

'I knocked on the door, she invited me in, we had a cup of tea, and a Rich Tea biscuit, and then as we sat there, she got her photo album out and showed me pictures.' 

 

It is at this point that Mrs Todd's recollection of what happened diverges from Sir Keir's. 'There were no Rich Tea biscuits,' she told us. 

 

And there was certainly no looking through a photo album. He was sat on one armchair, I was sat in another, and his staff were on the sofa, and we had a cup of tea – but there were no biscuits or photo albums.'

 

But Mrs Todd's objections to Sir Keir's account are much graver when it moves on to more substantive matters.

 

Sir Keir told his party: 'They [the pictures] were of the wedding of her Asian neighbour. She was proud that she was her friend… I started thinking 'What is going on here?'.

 

'Then we finally got to it, and she told me how some men from Eastern Europe had recently moved into her street. They sat on her wall, didn't put their rubbish out at the right time and spat on the ground. To her, that broke the little but important rules of her street. She didn't like it.

 

Then I realised what was really happening was that she was an ordinary working-class woman, from Oldham, a Labour voter, and she felt that she had to prove to a Labour politician that she wasn't racist before she could even bring up the issues in her community.'

 

But Mrs Todd recalls the meeting in the front room of her £130,000 terraced house unfolding differently. 'I don't know why he said I got my photo album out and showed him pictures of me at an Asian wedding because I didn't,' she insisted.

And she told how the meeting culminated in her being insulted over her views on immigration.

 

Mrs Todd, a retired trade journalist, explained how she came to meet Sir Keir, who had been elected an MP the previous year.

 

She said: 'I was on a panel called The New Deal for Communities and the council thought it would be worth him meeting me as I have very forthright views.

 

'I'm certainly not a racist. But that's what he accused me of during our chat.

 

'I told him that we had a problem on the street with Eastern European men spitting and just making a nuisance of themselves… I told him about these issues, and he said: 'Mrs Todd, I think you could be racist'.'

 

'I told him no, I wasn't – and that I had Asian friends, and I had been to lots of Asian weddings and events, and we buy Christmas presents for Asian children.

 

Link - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15157691/Starmer-Retiree-conference-speech-meeting-racist.html

 

 

This is all he's got, accusations of racism towards anyone.

 

Not only that, he uses the encounter by twisting it around and lying about what happened. 

 

I will accuse you of anything I choose and then lie to twist the truth to make it seem like I understand what people are telling me, I will then go on to do the opposite of what I have fantasised.

 

 

[pi3141]

David Lammy heckled at Manchester synagogue vigil

 

David Lammy was heckled as he was introduced at the Manchester synagogue attack’s vigil on Friday. 

Attendees chanted “shame on you” and accused the Deputy Prime Minister of having “blood on his hands”.

 

Mark Adlestone, chair of the Jewish Representative Council in Greater Manchester, was eventually compelled to intervene, saying: “All right, we’ve heard enough. We know how you feel.”

 

Telegraph 

 

 

How can the government expect to continue. 

 

No doubt our Home Secretary would get the same treatment. 

 

If they don't represent the majority, if they don't listen to the majority, and if they've lost the confidence of an electorate they supposedly represent, they cannot continue. 

 

The UK has always stated they will not negotiate with terrorists. 

 

Yet this government have accepted the demands of Hamas, a terrorist organisation, without even attempting to negotiate the return of a single hostage, let alone a ceasefire. 

 

They simply accepted the terrorists demands.

 

Our Home Secretary was on Free Palestine demonstrations. 

 

Watched as, and she knows, thousands of immigrants with a vastly different philosophy to this country, have been allowed to enter.

 

The Manchester attacker grew up here, in the UK, yet Islam still radicalized him.

 

How much has Islam radicalized the men turning up on boats.

 

Our Home Secretary knows, intimately, the reason, the answer as to what radicalized Muslims believe. 

 

She knows their beliefs and ideology is not compatible with Western values.

 

Yet she goes to Free Palestine demonstrations, is happy to be pictured holding the flag and has made no significant change, or speech, about stopping the boats, rooting out and returning the extremists that she knows is among them.

 

She hasn't addressed the Intelligence the ISIS fighters are among them. 

 

Once again, we're being lied to or gaslighted by politicians. 

 

They know the ugly truth, but refuse to do the sensible thing, and accuse us of Islamophobia and Racism to cover up there true ideology. 

 

They are wolves in sheep's clothing.

 

I really want someone to publicly ask Home Secretary Mahmood - what is the punishment for Homosexuality in Islam?

 

Will she speak out against the modern Islamic interpretation or does she believe it.

 

My guess is she would do an Yvette Cooper and refuse to answer on the basis she would lose her job.

 

[pi3141]

No I don't follow Jesus, but it's the views put forward.

 

 

 

Our Home Secretary says her religion is the most important thing in her life and drives everything she does.

 

How can that be compatible with running the UK?

 

Every time she faces a moral decision her religious views will appear in her mind first, then she has to make a conscious decision to put that reaction completely aside, remind herself of this society laws and views and historical decisions, and then make a decision that may run in opposition to her beliefs.

 

Will she not be considered a bad Muslim by other Muslims if she does that?

 

Will that not affect her decision?

 

The Government has recognized Palestine before anyone ceasefire and while Hama still hold hostages. 

 

The UK's historical position is we don't negotiate with terrorists. 

 

As Home Secretary she should have voiced opposition to recognizing Palestinian state until a ceasefire or at least the release of hostages, but that would have been negotiating, which we don't do.

 

So the proper stance, historical stance, which we've always been told is the moral stance, would be to not recognize the state until a formal resolution has been achieved. 

 

The proper Muslim stance would be to recognize Palestine and give Hamas an advantage as soon as possible.

 

Which she did.

 

That is not a Home Secretary acting in the UK's historical fashion.

 

It is putting her religion in front of the British people's interests and the government's historical position in these situations. 

 

Starmer has done the same. 

 

The ex head of our legal system has, on his own volition, disregarded decades of British diplomacy and Law, and if you disagree, your racist. 

 

They are dangerous. 

 

 

[pi3141]

Sadiq Khan refuses to call for cancellation of pro-Palestine protest

Mayor of London defended right to ‘peaceful and lawful’ demonstration but said people should be ‘mindful of the appalling terror attack’

 

The same argument applies to Khan.

 

Any Christian Mayor would cancel the protest. But he's putting his preference for his religion above what Londoners or British public want.

 

If you criticise him, Starmer will call you a racist far-right thug.

 

They tried to cancel the big demo 24 hours beforehand, in fact they did.

 

100,000 people protested, 26 arrests.

 

Most were from the opposition but media aren't reporting that.

 

Starmer called it Far Right thuggery.

 

Last night on a Palestinian protest, 40 arrests were made, mostly for attacks on Police.

 

So by my reckoning, there needed to be 200,000 protesters last night to equalise those figures and Starmer should have been on the news today condemning the thuggery taking place.

 

Given that there was nowhere near 200,000 people, the 40 arrests, by the same measure that 26 arrests from 100,000 is disgraceful thuggery, he should be utterly condemning the protests last night. 

 

Starmer, the Home Secretary and Mayor Khan should not be allowing any more Palestinian protests on the grounds of public order and safety. And Police safety. 

 

But they are not doing that.

 

Khan says they have the right to peaceful protest, but last night was not peaceful. 

 

Hence there's good reason to believe tonight's marches will be peaceful. 

 

If the Mayor and the Prime Minister or the Home Secretary can not forsee that this may not be peaceful, despite all the past protests, how can they be fit for the positions they hold.

 

 

Edited October 3 by pi3141

[pi3141]

David Lammy 'finished' as TalkTV star demands he 'resign immediately'

 

It comes after Deputy PM David Lammy accused Nigel Farage of 'flirting with the Hitler Youth' on the BBC earlier today

 

Snip

 

A TalkTV guest waded in on the deputy prime minister after he accused Nigel Farage of "flirting with the Hitler Youth" on the BBC earlier today. David Lammy was forced to apologise after his astonishing allegation, which Mr Farage dismissed at the time as "complete baloney".

 

On the BBC, Lammy reasserted that Labour thinks Reform UK's vow to end indefinite leave to remain and deport people in the UK without citizenship is racist "because it is". He later rowed back on his claims that Nigel Farage "flirted with Hitler Youth" and said he was "happy to clarify" his comments.

 

On TalkTV, barrister Steven Barrett has urged that David should "resign immediately."

 

He added: "I want Merseyside Police to launch an investigation into the Labour Party for a large number of offences. I think it's disgraceful. I have friends in the Labour Party. They are utterly shocked."

 

From - The Express.

 

I also think the PM and others have acted unlawfully as well as irresponsibly. 

 

They have slandered large numbers of the public and Farage.

 

They have also lied about the cause and ongoing issues with immigration. 

 

Now we see 10 years ago Starmer using the racist slur against a member of public and then later lying about the encounter to spin it entirely differently, saying he realized the left got it wrong on immigration. 

 

Then he spent all his time in opposition opposing any attempts to redress.

 

Before finally coming into power, blaming the last government for the situation and refusing to fix it and calling anyone who disagrees racist.

 

How is that the actions of an honest man?

 

[pi3141]

I'm sure everyone on this Forum has been looking at this sort of stuff, and what Islam is, but I thought it worth putting here just in case someone doesn't know whats been going on.

 

 

 

 

[pi3141]

 

Hence if Gazans are as responsible for Hamas actions, they are not innocent, they are enemy combatants on a battlefield. 

 

Hamas put them there, but that is the reality.

 

Edit: don't tell me they are unarmed.

 

There are videos of civillian women in burkhas firing mortars out of buildings. 

 

 

 

Edited October 3 by pi3141

[pi3141]

Britain offered home to Syrian family of killer who repaid the favour in cold blood

Syrian-born surgeon appears to regret son’s ‘heinous act’ but joyously greeted massacre of Jews

on Oct 7 2023

 

A day after Jihad al-Shamie had driven his car at speed at Jewish worshippers and then stabbed at them in a frenzied, murderous assault, his father posted on Facebook a short statement expressing his “profound shock”.

 

In a 124-word statement, Faraj al-Shamie said he and his family “strongly condemns this heinous act, which targeted peaceful, innocent civilians”. It was a show of contrition seemingly fitting of a Syrian-born doctor who has spent years working overseas as a trauma surgeon, often in hostile environments.

 

Except that on Oct 7 2023, in the hours after Hamas terrorists stormed Israel and slaughtered almost 1,200 people and took 250 civilians and soldiers hostage, the father appeared to show not a shred of humanity for the Jewish victims of that atrocity.

 

On the same Facebook page where he said how sorry he was about the Manchester attack, he had posted, some two years earlier, praise for the Hamas fighters, describing them as “Allah’s men on earth”

 

Telegraph 

[pi3141]

Israeli minister invites Tommy Robinson to visit after Manchester attack

Anti-Semitism tsar brands far-Right activist a ‘courageous leader on the front line against radical Islam’

 

Telegraph 

 

This is embarrassing. 

 

Starmer calls Robinson a thug.

 

Yet Israeli minister has invited Robinson to go to Israel. 

 

Historically the 'Far Right' hate the Jews, Starmer condemns Tommy Robinson as a Far Right Violent Thug and Racist a long with over 100,000 members of the public.

 

And yet for all their moralising and anti racist rhetoric we get from Labour - the Deputy PM gets heckled by the Jewish community, Starmer was obviously to ashamed to go to the vigil, and Israel condemn Starmer then invite the far right racist thug, Tommy Robinson, for an official visit to Israel to thank Tommy for his efforts.

 

They are not thanking Starmer or deputy PM Lammy or the Home secretary or Foreign secretary. 

 

As far as I'm concerned that tells us everything we need to know about this Labour government under Starmer. 

 

Labour under Starmer are wolves in sheep's clothing. 

 

They use newspeak or their mediaspeak (who teaches them) to not answer questions. 

 

They use personal or racist smears to silent dissent. 

 

They pay protesters to protest in favour of Labour’s immigration policy to influence media coverage. 

 

They fail to condemn large percentage of pro Palestine protesters as violent, while condemning a large group of protesters because a small, tiny in comparison, percentage of people got arrested

 

Khan refuses to answer questions and tell the truth about London grooming gangs and crime.

 

Yet Starmer has full faith in Khan.

 

We have the head of a company refusing a contract because there was no mandate from the public, it wasn't in manifesto and is undemocratic. 

 

This is a business leader teaching Starmer basic politics.

 

Labour have to go.

 

They've shown us the left are rabid, out of control liars who use political and social engineering as well as racial slurs to uphold their political position. 

 

Wolves in sheep's clothing. 

 

[pi3141]

Met police arrest 175 pro-Palestinian protesters after organisers refused to cancel demonstration

 

At least 175 people have been arrested at a pro-Palestine protest in central London after organisers refused to cancel the demonstration following the synagogue terror attack earlier this week. 

 

The Prime Minister had urged groups behind the demonstrations in Manchester and London along with attendees to 'respect the grief of British Jews' as he said the events could cause further pain to mourners.

 

Link - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15161451/Pro-Palestine-protest-organisers-ignore-calls-reconsider-marches.html

 

 

100,000 people protesting immigration, 26 arrested.

 

Response: far right or thugs. Don't represent Britain we shall never surrender our flag.

 

1000 protesting, for a terrorist organisation, 175 arrests.

 

Response : Please don't cause further pain to the mourners.

 

[pi3141]

Synagogue attacker's surgeon father said 'we will sip Arabic coffee and watch' the end of Israel

 

The father of the terrorist who attacked members of the Jewish community outside a Manchester synagogue on Thursday said he would 'sip Arabic coffee and watch' the end of Israel in a series of online posts that also praised Hamas.

 

Syrian-born Faraj Al-Shamie, father of 35-year-old Islamist attacker Jihad Al-Shamie, has posted regularly on social media since before the Syrian civil war, often referencing Israel.

 

Link - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15161655/Synagogue-attackers-surgeon-father-sip-coffee-watch-end-Israel.html

 

 

He says he's sitting back, after being appalled at his son's actions. 

 

Hamas are releasing hostages.

 

De-escalation? 

 

If Hamas were retreating, why would this man's son continue with the attack?

 

If Hamas are retreating, why is this man 'sitting back to watch the end of Israel' ?

 

They are not retreating. 

 

Something else is happening. 

 

[Screamingeagle]

19 hours ago, pi3141 said:

Hamas are retreating, why is this man 'sitting back to watch the end of Israel' ?

Hamas is Israel ,you know that Pi

 

19 hours ago, pi3141 said:

Something else is happening. 

A show for the masses that they are trying everything to make peace 

 

when infact it is all about sacrifice ,war,killing....

[pi3141]

1 hour ago, Screamingeagle said:

Hamas is Israel ,you know that Pi

 

No, I don't know, and I don't what you mean.

 

Please explain.

 

[Screamingeagle]

They were funded into existance by Israel

[pi3141]

22 hours ago, Screamingeagle said:

They were funded into existance by Israel

 

Oh.

 

Not sure about that, I would say it was CIA and British Intelligence.

 

Not that either of them are directly responsible for Hamas, but it was CIA and British Intelligence foreign policy that started all this and led to Hamas.

 

I think you'll find that Hamas funding comes from other Islamic groups.

 

 

[pi3141]

Woman filmed cutting down ribbons for Hamas hostages in London’s Muswell Hill

 

A woman has been caught on camera cutting down yellow ribbons representing hostages taken by Hamas from Israel on October 7.

The yellow ribbon is part of the Bring Them Home campaign for the civilians abducted by Hamas and held captive in Gaza for two years.

But a young woman was seen cutting down a fistful of the ribbons as she claimed they are ‘condoning genocide’.

 

Link - https://metro.co.uk/video/community-confronts-woman-cutting-hostage-ribbons-muswell-hill-fencing-3525097/?ito=vjs-link

 

 

[Screamingeagle]

25 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

 

Oh.

 

Not sure about that, I would say it was CIA and British Intelligence.

 

Not that either of them are directly responsible for Hamas, but it was CIA and British Intelligence foreign policy that started all this and led to Hamas.

 

I think you'll find that Hamas funding comes from other Islamic groups.

 

 

Same thing ,but you know that one to .

[pi3141]

19 minutes ago, Screamingeagle said:

Same thing ,but you know that one to .

 

I would say it was done for the benefit of the oil companies and the west. Not for Israel's benefit.

 

One question. 

 

The soldiers that committed Oct 7th and the people fighting for Hamas.

 

I mean the people pulling the triggers and killing for Hamas.

 

Are they Jewish or Muslim?

 

 

Edited October 7 by pi3141