JONJAY79 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 https://rumble.com/v5yndcn-the-israel-revolution-david-icke-dot-connector-videocast.html Interesting talk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wagdog19 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 19 hours ago, Campion said: Do you mean that Jews and Arabs have to live apart within Israel itself? Or the partition of Palestine into two states? That's the point of the two-state solution isn't it, to separate Jews and Palestinians into separate countries, which is what the Zionists wanted from the start and aided by Zionists in the British government. Apartheid in South Africa was like segregation in the USA, keeping the different races apart within the same country. There was actual partition in other conflict areas like Ireland, India, and Yugoslavia so it's not unprecedented. Perhaps SA would be better with partition than apartheid too, considering that it's no better now than during the Apartheid era. However there hasn't been agreement for a 'solution'. If you don't agree with partition, what would work instead, aren't the options either a two state or a one state solution? South Africa is a 100 times better than what it was under apartheid. It's in the state that's it is in, because of obscene corruption and a 'third force' sowing seeds of racial hatred. If you want trouble, you will find it in certain areas, but in general, society accepts each other. The Netanyahu government will never accept equality, and by the looks of it, nor do the majority of Israelis. There is no solution when the synagogue of satan is in power. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagdog19 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 14 hours ago, pi3141 said: Then I don't understand your position. You don't support your perceived genocide of Palestinian but its Hamas’s stated aim to genocide the jews. So we can stop the fighting, save the Palestinians and then watch Hamas genocide the Jews. Wouldn't that turn it into a football match? Oh they're not winning, let's have a rematch and genocide the Jews instead. This is war - started by Hamas, Israel is winning and your claiming genocide which is the action Israel has been forced to take by Hamas and the Palestinian people. Do you think Israel should stop, allow Hamas to regroup, rearm and then do another Oct 7th? Then when Israel responds we all cry genocide. Israel stops, Hamas rearms and then we go again, until the world cries genocide again? Perhaps this could be a monthly fixture. Maybe invite other terrorists in to give it a go? We could make a league. If the shoe was on the other foot and Hanas were winning, do you think they would care about you crying genocide of the Jews? Cos I can tell you, they won't care, they wouldn't stop. As for the ICJ case - don't make me laugh. If you can't see through that I can't help you. Operation Gladio is worth researching, as is the origins of Hamas (and Isis, al queda,etc..). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagdog19 Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 I stated earlier that satanyahu had been fear mongering about Iran since 1995. My bad, it's longer. 1992. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONJAY79 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 (edited) 23 hours ago, pi3141 said: Ive said it before and I'll say it again. This situation has mostly been created by the West. We should hang our heads in shame for what the West has done in our name over the last century. Mostly created by Rothchilds zionists. Edited June 22 by JONJAY79 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 2 hours ago, JONJAY79 said: Mostly created by Rothchilds zionists. They certainly started this mess with Balfour Treaty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONJAY79 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 28 minutes ago, pi3141 said: They certainly started this mess with Balfour Treaty. Yes the zionist Balfour Treaty was just the start for the Greater Israel project. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balfour_Declaration 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazthehobo Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Every time Israel attacks its with zero concern for the innocent people caught up in it. If a terrorist runs into a school and takes child hostages Israel would respond by bombing the school. ”The terrorist is dead!” They then say that Hamas must be stopped but they ignore the fact that by acting like Hamas or a rogue terrorist state then they have become the enemy they are chasing. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 I'm gonna tell you a story. I've told it before, I'll tell it again. 25 years ago I had a temp summer job in between my degree and starting my Masters, I was a data input clerk for a large pharmaceutical. A guy I was working with was an 'old money' type of person, Oxford educated, went to work for Sony and was in charge of Betamax release in Europe, quite successful at what he did. He was recruited by an intelligence service and did various jobs for them. As a business man, it was mainly befriending certain individuals to bring them under control. So if he noticed the person of interest liked planes, he would source blueprints of planes, he may offer to get the children into Private UK school, etc etc. Reel them in, make them dependant, then extract information. He was asked to set up a deal with the Palestinian's. Back in the 80's they discovered a huge oil and gas reserves that was off the coast and would belong to the Palestinian's. The idea was, make them ware and offer the reserves to the Palestinians as a means to bring them to the table for peace talks. The Kennedy family was involved. Well, the political wind changed, he was recalled, sensing something was up, he sent his secretary on a different flight ahead of himself and she took all the documentation through. When he arrived at Heathrow, he was arrested, interrogated, but not having any evidence on him, they had to let him go. They were trying to charge him with helping the enemy. So, they blacklisted him, he was unable to work after that, could only get Temp jobs from agencies like the one employing us. The point is, once again, there was a chance for peace, but either oil interests or political interests from the West, ruined it. This sort of thing has happened time and time again during this conflict. The Palestinians and Muslims at large see these deceptions, betrayals and corruption. They've come to learn they cannot trust the west. Enter the extremists. Because when you live in poverty, in fear, with corruption, in the end, the people will be driven to extremist ideology. We see it in Israel, their have been moderate leaders in Israel, but as the missiles continued to be fired on Israel, more and more people call for something to be done. Enter the extremists. They get a voice, people look at what they thought was radical as being necessary to combat the threat. We've seen a similar thing here, people becoming uneasy about immigration, they don't get listened to, the situation deteriorates and eventually the extremists step in and say they have the solution, they take control of the movement and start burning property. Now they have become exactly what they accuse the immigrants of being. The movement gets put down, blamed on extremists and everything carries on as normal. In Ireland we've seen protests by ordinary people, hijacked by extremists and Starmers reaction 'I support the Police to establish law and order and condemn the extremists' something like that he said. No mention of the protest, no listening to the voices, it can be ignored and blamed on extremists Problem, reaction, solution. I posted about Syriana, the review on that film asks 'can it really be as bad as that, as corrupt as that?' Well I think the answer is yes, because from my personal experience, there has been several times when peace was achievable and from what little I know, everytime its been the west, representing military, political or oil interests that have screwed up the opportunity. Israel is facing the consequences of the West f*cking around, disrupting peace process, encouraging and funding extremists that have created this mess, with Israel firmly in the middle and taking the consequence, and Muslim nations driven to extreme groups, Israel becoming more hardline and breaking international law with settlements, which again, fuels the fire for extremists. I understand how we got here, but now we're here, we're in a very dangerous time. If this extremism wins, Hamas takes Israel, they will look to make a Middle East alliance, a greater caliphate and then they will start aggressively demanding Muslims in Western countries be allowed to live as Muslims under sharia law. We will see more oppression, violence, intolerance and injustice than we have ever seen before. Because they will say we deserve it, after the way we treated them. They will argue our system has been proven to be corrupt and dishonest, and only extreme Islam can put the world to rights. If Israel falls, the world is f*cked. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 The Gaza Oil Myth By Dr. Elai Rettig and Lee WilcoxOctober 27, 2024 Perspectives Paper No. 2,316, October 27, 2024 EXECUTIVE SUMMARY: The claim that Israel’s war in Gaza is driven by a desire to control Gaza’s oil and gas resources has spread widely on social media and news platforms over the past year. However, Gaza has no known oil reserves and only one small, undeveloped offshore gas field, which Israel has never claimed. Surprisingly, this disinformation traces back to an official 2019 report by a UN agency (UNCTAD) that contained numerous false statements and unsubstantiated figures about non-existent energy reserves that were provided to it by known conspiracy theorists. Despite multiple analyses debunking every part of the report, the UN has not retracted it. This article examines the sources of the Gaza oil myth and points to deliberate attempts by the UNCTAD to fuel the false narrative of Israel seizing non-existent Palestinian oil. Link - https://besacenter.org/the-gaza-oil-myth/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 The unrealized potential of Palestinian oil and gas reserves 28 August 2019 Oil and natural gas resources in the occupied Palestinian territory could generate hundreds of billions of dollars for development. Geologists and resources economists have confirmed that the occupied Palestinian territory (oPt) lies above sizeable reservoirs of oil and natural gas wealth, in Area C of the West Bank and the Mediterranean coast off the Gaza Strip, according to a recent UNCTAD study. New discoveries of natural gas in the Levant Basin are in the range of 122 trillion cubic foot while recoverable oil is estimated at 1.7 billion barrels, according to the study, entitled “The Economic Cost of Occupation for the Palestinian People: The Unrealized Oil and Natural Gas Potential.” This offers an opportunity to distribute and share about US$524 billion among the different parties in the region and promote peace and cooperation among old belligerents, the study notes. These funds could finance socioeconomic development in the oPt as part of the United Nations 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development. However, so far the Palestinian people have been prohibited from exploiting the oil and gas reserves in their own land and water to meet their energy needs and generate fiscal and export revenues. This increases both the opportunity costs and the total costs borne by the Palestinian people as a result of occupation, the study states. Link - https://unctad.org/news/unrealized-potential-palestinian-oil-and-gas-reserves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 So who's telling the truth? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONJAY79 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 On 6/21/2025 at 8:04 AM, pi3141 said: All roads lead to the Rothchilds zionists. Not all zionists are Jewish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wagdog19 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 6 hours ago, Mazthehobo said: Every time Israel attacks its with zero concern for the innocent people caught up in it. If a terrorist runs into a school and takes child hostages Israel would respond by bombing the school. ”The terrorist is dead!” They then say that Hamas must be stopped but they ignore the fact that by acting like Hamas or a rogue terrorist state then they have become the enemy they are chasing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagdog19 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 4 hours ago, pi3141 said: I'm gonna tell you a story. I've told it before, I'll tell it again. 25 years ago I had a temp summer job in between my degree and starting my Masters, I was a data input clerk for a large pharmaceutical. A guy I was working with was an 'old money' type of person, Oxford educated, went to work for Sony and was in charge of Betamax release in Europe, quite successful at what he did. He was recruited by an intelligence service and did various jobs for them. As a business man, it was mainly befriending certain individuals to bring them under control. So if he noticed the person of interest liked planes, he would source blueprints of planes, he may offer to get the children into Private UK school, etc etc. Reel them in, make them dependant, then extract information. He was asked to set up a deal with the Palestinian's. Back in the 80's they discovered a huge oil and gas reserves that was off the coast and would belong to the Palestinian's. The idea was, make them ware and offer the reserves to the Palestinians as a means to bring them to the table for peace talks. The Kennedy family was involved. Well, the political wind changed, he was recalled, sensing something was up, he sent his secretary on a different flight ahead of himself and she took all the documentation through. When he arrived at Heathrow, he was arrested, interrogated, but not having any evidence on him, they had to let him go. They were trying to charge him with helping the enemy. So, they blacklisted him, he was unable to work after that, could only get Temp jobs from agencies like the one employing us. The point is, once again, there was a chance for peace, but either oil interests or political interests from the West, ruined it. This sort of thing has happened time and time again during this conflict. The Palestinians and Muslims at large see these deceptions, betrayals and corruption. They've come to learn they cannot trust the west. Enter the extremists. Because when you live in poverty, in fear, with corruption, in the end, the people will be driven to extremist ideology. We see it in Israel, their have been moderate leaders in Israel, but as the missiles continued to be fired on Israel, more and more people call for something to be done. Enter the extremists. They get a voice, people look at what they thought was radical as being necessary to combat the threat. We've seen a similar thing here, people becoming uneasy about immigration, they don't get listened to, the situation deteriorates and eventually the extremists step in and say they have the solution, they take control of the movement and start burning property. Now they have become exactly what they accuse the immigrants of being. The movement gets put down, blamed on extremists and everything carries on as normal. In Ireland we've seen protests by ordinary people, hijacked by extremists and Starmers reaction 'I support the Police to establish law and order and condemn the extremists' something like that he said. No mention of the protest, no listening to the voices, it can be ignored and blamed on extremists Problem, reaction, solution. I posted about Syriana, the review on that film asks 'can it really be as bad as that, as corrupt as that?' Well I think the answer is yes, because from my personal experience, there has been several times when peace was achievable and from what little I know, everytime its been the west, representing military, political or oil interests that have screwed up the opportunity. Israel is facing the consequences of the West f*cking around, disrupting peace process, encouraging and funding extremists that have created this mess, with Israel firmly in the middle and taking the consequence, and Muslim nations driven to extreme groups, Israel becoming more hardline and breaking international law with settlements, which again, fuels the fire for extremists. I understand how we got here, but now we're here, we're in a very dangerous time. If this extremism wins, Hamas takes Israel, they will look to make a Middle East alliance, a greater caliphate and then they will start aggressively demanding Muslims in Western countries be allowed to live as Muslims under sharia law. We will see more oppression, violence, intolerance and injustice than we have ever seen before. Because they will say we deserve it, after the way we treated them. They will argue our system has been proven to be corrupt and dishonest, and only extreme Islam can put the world to rights. If Israel falls, the world is f*cked. Trojan horse. Netanyahu the false prophet? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wagdog19 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 19 minutes ago, pi3141 said: It's one way that the PTB can bring the world under one 'religion'. Mabus comes to mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 19 hours ago, wagdog19 said: Operation Gladio is worth researching, as is the origins of Hamas (and Isis, al queda,etc..). Yeah, all western creations or reactions to western Imperialism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 12 minutes ago, wagdog19 said: Trojan horse. Netanyahu the false prophet? Maybe, lots of false prophets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 4 minutes ago, wagdog19 said: It's one way that the PTB can bring the world under one 'religion'. Mabus comes to mind. Yep. The Antichrist crap is un biblical really. Born out of Egyptian combat myths. Revelations is a bit out there. The Christian end times was supposed to have happened 2000 years ago, according to Paul and other Apostles. But yes, ties in with your false prophet comment. It maybe that Netanyahu is being used to wage this war, if Islam wins we get a worldwide caliphate under one religion, if the West/Israel win, we get a new world order under one religion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 Hero schoolboy tells how he saved girlfriend when her Muslim parents tried to strangle her in 'honor killing' By NIC WHITE FOR DAILYMAIL.COM Published: 14:16, 22 June 2025 | Updated: 14:19, 22 June 2025 A heroic teenage boy has described how he saved his girlfriend's life as her parents allegedly tried to strangle her in an 'honor killing'. Ihsan Ali, 44, and his wife Zahraa Subhi Mohsin Ali, 40, are charged with second-degree attempted murder and attempted kidnapping after the attack on October 18. The girl, 17, who can't be named, ran away from home to Timberline High School in Lacey, Washington, after her parents tried to put her on a plane to Iraq. Link - https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14799733/honor-killing-lacey-washington-teen-boy-saved-girlfriend-ihsan-ali.html Nobody should ignore this fanaticism, they are prepared to kill their own children for their religious beliefs. Beliefs being taught in British mosques. Honour killings carried out in full view in Western countries. They do not respect western law, only sharia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JONJAY79 Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 3 hours ago, pi3141 said: Yes agree Islam can be a problem so are Rothchilds zionists Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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